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That Time I Became A Dictator Of A Small Asian Communist Nation

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Carcer said:
Isn't it over the past twenty years or so that the cost of hosting the Olympic Games has really drastically increased?
And that before that it was worth much more?
It is also necessary to take into account if it is the winter or summer games which are organized, those of winter are much less expensive.
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Don't know enough to really say. But dealing with the Olympic committee is going to be enough of a pain without adding infra to the mix. Our peeps are gonna be occupied with all the anti-trans shit slinging most likely.
 
I can honestly see the Olympics being offscreen and if we sent anyone, they'd either win medals or come home and nothing would change. As for hosting the Olympics, That's a hard no right now with the economy being as bad as it is. maybe during the 2000's would there be an attempt to get the Olympics to come to guanchou island.
 
I mean, hosting the Olympics is a natural disaster you pay for the privilege of having land on you. It's expensive, messes up the city for years if not decades...
 
So how possible are the Olympics going to be the final cause of the American troubles to start or at least how a lot of people are going to think how it did? because no one is going to listen to the future historians likely again like always.
 
Can we nudge the IOC to make sure the US gets the Olympics multiple times in short succession?
 
well, the way the current cypac member are looking like, we NEED to get the USSR on side. the reason is that almost all of the cypac members are incredibly poor, uneducated and agrarian. (except for maybe egypt iraq and iran we are one of the only nations with good education systems and educated people.)
if we want to develop the nations of this block we need the sheer industrial output of the soviet union. so what im thinking is provide electronics to the ussr to boost the capital good production to untold heights and use them as the main member sending industrial aid. other thing we can produce is education (aka sell student visas and send advisors to all underdeveloped countries to help with their incredible lack of skilled labour).

given the countries that already joined i think its incredibly doable to create an agreement on an ethiopian dam in the nile by getting egypt and sudan on side. ( this is happening IRL and is a HUGE deal , the Ethiopian civil war is basically being funded because of this. if we could resolve this peacefully we can solve the energy needs of the 3 countries)

providing rail gauge standards could also be massive, especially in africa where rail infrastructure is so underdeveloped that we could provide a trail from morroco to Afghanistan without any need to change carts

and also, with the oil producing countries on side, we could easily cause an oil crisis (while keeping countries within the pact supplied)
 
We need to develop rail, it doesnt matter how good or computerized our industry is. we have incredibly poor transportation links and as our industry becomes more and more complex, we become more and more forced to continue overdevelping concentrated industries even if they do not provide the optimal solutions.

IIRC our rail is abysmal, roads are underdeveloped and we dont have that many trucks + we dont have buses/we have very few of them, lastly we dont have/havent developed riverine systems (dont know if we have navegable rivers in our island but still), all of our dockyard infrastructure has been made for fishing, military and international export rather than domestic transport(moving things by water even from one end of our island to the other is EXTREMELY CHEAP in comparison to any other means of transportation.)

the real thing holding our industry back is transportation infrastructure and we need to remedy this as soon as possible even at the expense of healthcare reform (health is still pressing but theres not much we can do untill we train more doctors. unless we ask the UN or doctors sans frontiers to send us doctors to teach at our universities rather than staff our clinics. we might even promise to supply doctors to said organizarion once our current health emergency has passed or export our electronic medical system to other countries [medicine is infamous for being very difficult to properly computerize])

still, seeing our vaccination campaign as a success, we should also push to continue that trend throughout the cypac with help of the UN or the WHO, IIRC it was the soviets who proposed the elimination of polio in india.
 
Well we can't or more likely shouldn't invite the USSR because they would be the leader of the group which is counterproductive to us and yes one of our main goals is too raise the production and industries in these nation of third world countries.
 
Drakewolfbio said:
Well we can't or more likely shouldn't invite the USSR because they would be the leader of the group which is counterproductive to us and yes one of our main goals is too raise the production and industries in these nation of third world countries.
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the problem is that our industrial base is minuscule . we are barely covering our own needs, how could we possibly give enough industrial aid to like 1/5 of the planet?(remember also our relative economy sizes, even if we had significant surplus we would barely move the needle)

if we had made the pact smaller it would be feasible not to include the USSR but given the sheer need for capital goods we need them.

industrial development does not appear ex nihilo, you need industry to create industry, with our tech, northern africa and middle east resources and the soviet industrial base we could very well develop other member states into true communism™
 
Acting as a clearinghouse for Soviet industrial goods is a possible CyPac action we can take later to speed up industrialization on CyPac, but we are absolutely not inviting the USSR in. The whole point of CyPac is to avoid the sort of Red Imperialism that the USSR has been doing - heck, one of the big ticket items for the initial ComDevA was also to get the USSR to fuck off and stop doing neocolonialism in the developing world.

It's going to take time to build up industry and infrastructure, and that's alright. Guangchou has a solid industrial base and plenty of intellectual talent that can be lent out. It's a nice way for us to exercise some soft power too. We do not NEED the USSR to industrialize CyPac - it'll just take a bit longer.

It's true that we don't have many rivers useful for moving material, but I'm not sure where you're assuming that our internal seaports are bad - part of the reason rail hasn't been more of a priority is that HC said we've been making do with coastal transport. And national rail is on the agenda after turn 4 of this plan. It makes more sense to take advantage of the focus bonus while it's there and delay rail a bit.

We are NOT going to ask for doctors without borders, that shit is how you get CIA infiltrators.

Building GERD early would be a possible CyPac project, but I'm not sure it's worth the hassle of all the water rights negotiations. It would probably be easier to develop concentrated solar power and thermal storage and let MENA pave over the desert with mirrors.
 
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    • Scheduled vote count started by HeroCooky on Feb 5, 2023 at 4:06 PM, finished with 58 posts and 16 votes.
    • [X] Plan: Political Sausage Making
      -[X] North Korea - Counteroffer: Patience Is a Virtue
      --[X] NK can borrow time on Guang SupComs and send over people to be trained on their operation and maintenance in the short term, but building one of their own will have to wait until the next 5 Year Plan due to foreign and domestic economic commitments.
      -[X] Industrial Aid - Yes (Mongolia, Iraq, Tanzania)
      -[X] Iran - Diplomatic Solutions: Sideline the Fundamentalists
      --[X] Unite the leftists, Islamo-liberals, and nationalists (the OIPFG and tudeh) behind CyPac's platform of non-USA and non-USSR anti-imperialism and Islamic socialism and send representatives to inject some intersectionality theory directly into their organizational veins to get them to support the women's protests. The resulting coalition will force the fundamentalists to either grumble and fall in line, or explicitly lay out their desire for a autocratic theocracy that has so far been hidden behind vague appeals to anti-imperialism and revolutionary fervour. If the Khomeinists don't play ball, the next arms shipment isn't going to the Kurds, it's going to the militant women in Tehran. [1]
      -[X] Syria - Military Aid - Yes
      -[X] SY - Military Aid - Yes
      -[X] Benin - Military Solutions: Strange Bedfellows
      --[X] See if the Communists and the Democratic Socialist Youth Liberation Associations can agree to a negotiated ceasefire that allows for some sort of political compromise, in exchange for being supported in the fight against everyone else. If not, support the DSYLAs.
      -[X] Mozambique - Other Solutions: Yes & Later
      --[X] Military aid now. Training people in computer engineering will take time (Native Mingxiang will be completed before the end of this 5YP).
      -[X] Somalia - Other Solutions: My Expectations Were Low, But I'm Still Disappointed
      --[X] Guangchou will take in any Somali LGBT+ refugees who wish to immigrate and coordinate with other member nations to set up sanctuary cities in the more socially progressive parts of African CyPac nations that could take in the ones who don't want to uproot their lives to such a degree. Somalia will be accepted as a non-voting observer.
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    • All considerably above the averages. Pretty wild for a small country.

    I mean, we're roughly Taiwan-sized, right? We have pretty much matched their all-time haul in one olympics.
     
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