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Summoner Quest (Celestial Menagerie)

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[X] Nuke them from afar with our most powerful ranged powers. No mercy.

[X] Power

We have some heavy hitters, no need to give them a chance by getting in close.

Edit- going over the list of summons for some early thoughts
Ranged Attack-
Zilla (only one hour but any form of godzilla with a beam attack will do work here)
Princess- disintegration beams
EVA 01- big, hard to damage and can smush a lot of the 9 perfect to send in after the opening ranged attack
Trimmau- 500 point summon from type moon is going to be useful
Koriadon- 700 point pokemon? maybe not the initial ranged attack but going in with EVA for mop up
Ties that bind- 500 point custom spirit that can mark foes in sight? yeah very good for the follow up and will hate the 9 given its character
Gargant- 700pointer from EDF giant robotic? creature that shoots laser beams, lot and lots of lasers

Backup (some good summons in case one or more of the 9 gets close)
Thorne- 1000 Needles is no joke and with haste and confuse to help our allies and hinder our enemies
Shadow- Assassin class servant is perfect for a hidden defender, cant defend against an attack you dont know is coming for most of the 9
Draconir- dragon, flying dragon (not super familiar with monster sanctuary but it is a 400 point creature)
Damned Chessmen- summons 16 creatures with one slot, useful to deal with the goblins of Nilbog
 
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Jack is probably getting huge 'oh fuck' signals from his shard, so its likely better to not give them more time.

Not sure about the nuke button since they might be prepared in some way, like hostages...

I think we should scout them out first, maybe try and master one of them? Idk.

Also man Hermit Purple is such a good stand... Shame it was too op....
 
[X] "Tomorrow (Saturday), it'll be tight but we must act swiftly!"
[X] Nuke them from afar with our most powerful ranged powers. No mercy.
[X] Power

It's the only way to be sure... also, I really want to see everyone's reaction to some of our strongest blasters. I wonder how they'll take Zveri - Krestnyy Khod?
 
[X] "Tomorrow (Saturday), it'll be tight but we must act swiftly!"

This makes sense both in-character and from a meta-perspective. For the former, part of the threat Nilbog posed was his creations' ability to self-replicate. Allowing Bonesaw to continue Tinkering thusly is a bad idea. For the later reasoning, Jack is liable to react to the scrying attempts soon enough so it is better to give him as little time as possible.

[X] Full frontal assault from all sides.

This option I am still unsure of. I picked it because Assassination is unlikely to work with Broadcast and so many hard targets and a full-frontal assault opens up chances for the fighters to be infected with whatever plagues Bonesaw has on hand but it comes with its own problems as well. Chiefly, I am concerned that some of the Nine will manage to bunker-up in the face of the initial attack thanks to Jack receiving advanced warning. If nothing else Crawler is liable to make it out alive, at least at first. It also presumes that they are all in more or less the same location when the attack launches which is a bit of a gamble.

[X] Power

It will be interesting if Compendium meets The Siberian. The projection may actually count for Creature Acquisition.
 
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[X] "Tomorrow (Saturday), it'll be tight but we must act swiftly!"
[X] Nuke them from afar with our most powerful ranged powers. No mercy.
[X] Power

I'm voting for this with the understanding we do this smart. We check that all 10 of them are still there, check that we can get all 10 of them can be killed in the first attack so they don't have time to react, double tap with follow up attacks, and after all of them are dead use our immunity to bioweapons to check every one of their bodies to make sure they aren't fake decoys made by the tinkers, so we don't get surprised by them reappearing lately.

The only reason I'm not trying to invent a reason we attack now despite it not being an option is because we don't have an in character way to know Broadcast is preparing for us. Even then, we know where they are, and have scoped out the environment. They might move tonight (read, definitely will because Broadcast) so we should hit them while having our only chance at tactical superiority.
 
I also just realized that this will be an almost perfect opportunity for Alex to use Combined Attack since an initial bombardment using Combined ignores all artificial defenses.
 
[X] "Tomorrow (Saturday), it'll be tight but we must act swiftly!"
[X] Nuke them from afar with our most powerful ranged powers. No mercy.
 
[X] "Tomorrow (Saturday), it'll be tight but we must act swiftly!"
[X] Nuke them from afar with our most powerful ranged powers. No mercy.
[X] Power

I hope I'm not supposed to take Victor seriously as a threat… because I don't and I doubt I ever will.

Also @zagan i just realised that Legion hasn't been introduced yet, is that on purpose or an oversight?
Void Stalker said:
Backup (some good summons in case one or more of the 9 gets close)
Thorne- 1000 Needles is no joke and with haste and confuse to help our allies and hinder our enemies
Shadow- Assassin class servant is perfect for a hidden defender, cant defend against an attack you dont know is coming for most of the 9
Draconir- dragon, flying dragon (not super familiar with monster sanctuary but it is a 400 point creature)
Damned Chessmen- summons 16 creatures with one slot, useful to deal with the goblins of Nilbog
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Don't forget Tom, he does damage depending on how many people his target has killed which is basically an instakill for everyone there except maybe Victor.

Also for multiple summons Bernie is arguably better than the Damned Chessmen for the sheer number of them we can produce and I believe the Chessmen are limited to the board.
Lopezelpesado said:
Im still hoping we can scout it out first to check for hostages, this option seems like it would have a trap like that.
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Ehh, if this were the Fallen I'd probably agree with you but the Nine don't really take hostages. Anyone that they theoretically may have taken hostage is either already dead or desperately wishes they were.

Plus we've just spend several hours using Hermit Purple to recon the area from pretty much every perspective we could thing of, short of actively infiltrating their hideout we've done all the scouting we can. At this stage all waiting any longer would do is give Jack the time to react.
 
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How do you suppose Haki interacts with Crawler? I want to say that it would allow attacks made with Kuja to treat his durability as if his power was nonexistent but I'm not sure exactly.
 
Well, all I'll say is if the nuclear option is chosen, there's going to be some people looking askance at the Protectorate's top heroes just casually bombing an entire town off the map, killing the Slaughterhouse 9 or not. Even if they technically knew Compendium was capable of it due to his defeat of Leviathan by pulling out such creatures, it's another thing if he actually does it.
 
storysmith112358 said:
Well, all I'll say is if the nuclear option is chosen, there's going to be some people looking askance at the Protectorate's top heroes just casually bombing an entire town off the map, killing the Slaughterhouse 9 or not. Even if they technically knew Compendium was capable of it due to his defeat of Leviathan by pulling out such creatures, it's another thing if he actually does it.
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That is a fair point.

I believe it is not an entire town but rather an isolated farm that the Nine have invaded, however. So it is not quite as bad. And the PR department can probably spin this as a drastic measure given the confirmed presence of Nilbog and Bonesaw's attempts at creating "Goblins" of her own. A biotinker monster army is the kind of threat that deserves proportional response though admitting what happened might cause backlash itself. I suppose, depending on how rural and isolated the location is there may not be any civilian witnesses but that does seem a touch too optimistic.

I may end up changing my vote. Long-range assault was always a bit iffy in my opinion.
 
Feather_Up said:
How do you suppose Haki interacts with Crawler? I want to say that it would allow attacks made with Kuja to treat his durability as if his power was nonexistent but I'm not sure exactly.
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I imagine that it would allow Alex to hit Crawler as if he hadn't adapted to that form of attack but it's possible that Crawler would then adapt to Haki.
storysmith112358 said:
Well, all I'll say is if the nuclear option is chosen, there's going to be some people looking askance at the Protectorate's top heroes just casually bombing an entire town off the map, killing the Slaughterhouse 9 or not. Even if they technically knew Compendium was capable of it due to his defeat of Leviathan by pulling out such creatures, it's another thing if he actually does it.
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Ehh, based on the description the Nine aren't actually in a town they're on a farm on the outskirts of a town and presumably we've gathered enough information to identify which one when the time comes. I highly doubt that the nuclear option would be a choice if it meant literally wiping a town off the map.

Plus worst case scenario I imagine that if we did end up having to not only would the average person probably deem it a worthwhile exchange but the PRT could easily just claim that the Nine had wiped them out.

Hell that's actually entirely possible, slaughtering small towns in the middle of nowhere is completely in character for the Nine and they would have needed a source for Bonesaw's experiments, Nilbog's creations and Siberian's snacks.
 
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[X] "Tomorrow (Saturday), it'll be tight but we must act swiftly!"

[X] Full frontal assault from all sides.

While I'm not against the nuclear option, I do worry how far the blast will reach.

Plenty of examples from Naruto showing the Tailed Beast Bombs, of which Rex is going to be using because of Brutes like Crawler and the Siberian in this case, taking out large sections of the landscape and I quote "it's "standard" size is enough to easily vaporize mountains." As someone who lives in the countryside, some farms are not that far from towns, maybe 4 miles/6.4 km out at the least where I live. It's sounds far but I've walked that distance just to save on gas for work, it's not that big of a radius for an all out offensive involving Rex and his other partners to be safe enough to use for me.
 
AntaeusTheGiant said:
Heavy sigh. I was really hoping that that last individual was the esteemed, and presumed late, Dr. Manton, whom Alexandria would likely have recognized.. Oh well.
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I've gone with the interpretation that at this point in time only Jack knows that the Siberian is a projection generated by Manton. So the man is hiding some distance away in his van.

Tiz Goldeneye said:
I'm voting for this with the understanding we do this smart. We check that all 10 of them are still there, check that we can get all 10 of them can be killed in the first attack so they don't have time to react, double tap with follow up attacks, and after all of them are dead use our immunity to bioweapons to check every one of their bodies to make sure they aren't fake decoys made by the tinkers, so we don't get surprised by them reappearing lately.
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Lopezelpesado said:
Im still hoping we can scout it out first to check for hostages, this option seems like it would have a trap like that.
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Of course, there will be one last round of scouting just before the operation.

Tiz Goldeneye said:
The only reason I'm not trying to invent a reason we attack now despite it not being an option is because we don't have an in character way to know Broadcast is preparing for us. Even then, we know where they are, and have scoped out the environment. They might move tonight (read, definitely will because Broadcast) so we should hit them while having our only chance at tactical superiority.
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I considered giving the option of going right away but that wasn't really credible. Some amount of preparation is necessary.

Feather_Up said:
I also just realized that this will be an almost perfect opportunity for Alex to use Combined Attack since an initial bombardment using Combined ignores all artificial defenses.
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*Grumbling* Stop reading my mind! Where's my tinfoil hat?

jonasquinn said:
I hope I'm not supposed to take Victor seriously as a threat… because I don't and I doubt I ever will.
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You're not. He's mostly there to tie a loose end.
I've considered briefly having him come back at a later point, maybe after he second triggered (with some sort of copycat trump power). It would have been at the worst possible time, certainly during an Endbringer battle. But I decided against it, I have too many plot threads to handle already.

jonasquinn said:
Also @zagan i just realised that Legion hasn't been introduced yet, is that on purpose or an oversight?
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It's on purpose. Because Legion is both a sapient and a Companion, once summoned for the first time he'll be staying around. I want to have a meaningful conversation with him. So in the middle of a meeting with the Triumvirate while in another city probably isn't the best time.

Feather_Up said:
How do you suppose Haki interacts with Crawler? I want to say that it would allow attacks made with Kuja to treat his durability as if his power was nonexistent but I'm not sure exactly.
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Haki would indeed ignore all form of defense and would prevent or slow healing. Though crawler could heal around the wound. It would still be there but under a new layer of skin/scales/whatever.

storysmith112358 said:
Well, all I'll say is if the nuclear option is chosen, there's going to be some people looking askance at the Protectorate's top heroes just casually bombing an entire town off the map, killing the Slaughterhouse 9 or not. Even if they technically knew Compendium was capable of it due to his defeat of Leviathan by pulling out such creatures, it's another thing if he actually does it.
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Feather_Up said:
That is a fair point.

I believe it is not an entire town but rather an isolated farm that the Nine have invaded, however. So it is not quite as bad. And the PR department can probably spin this as a drastic measure given the confirmed presence of Nilbog and Bonesaw's attempts at creating "Goblins" of her own. A biotinker monster army is the kind of threat that deserves proportional response though admitting what happened might cause backlash itself. I suppose, depending on how rural and isolated the location is there may not be any civilian witnesses but that does seem a touch too optimistic.

I may end up changing my vote. Long-range assault was always a bit iffy in my opinion.
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JumpFail200 said:
While I'm not against the nuclear option, I do worry how far the blast will reach.

Plenty of examples from Naruto showing the Tailed Beast Bombs, of which Rex is going to be using because of Brutes like Crawler and the Siberian in this case, taking out large sections of the landscape and I quote "it's "standard" size is enough to easily vaporize mountains." As someone who lives in the countryside, some farms are not that far from towns, maybe 4 miles/6.4 km out at the least where I live. It's sounds far but I've walked that distance just to save on gas for work, it's not that big of a radius for an all out offensive involving Rex and his other partners to be safe enough to use for me.
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Don't worry. Yes, the farm is semi-isolated. Rust is just the closest town but it's still some distance away. They may deal with some strong wind and the sound of the blast may destroy some windows. But the PRT will cover that. (Or Alex will)
Furthermore, Alex will have some control over the area of effect.
 
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    • [X] "Tomorrow (Saturday), it'll be tight but we must act swiftly!"
    [X] Nuke them from afar with our most powerful ranged powers. No mercy.
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    • [X] 400 390 (I'm feeling generous) Choose one (300)

    While dimensional adaptation is always fun and there are still a few I'd like to Sue it for this seems like the best plan for now.
     
    [X] 300 Multi-Boost

    While the others are better long term, this second we need to make the biggest attack possible for a 1 hit kill and this helps with that.
     
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