Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
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Or the planmaker is being a dumdum by not Putting in the keyword plan, in which case the first one voting for it with details would decide the exact details.
[X] Plan: Fight Smart
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[X] Plan: Fight Smart
Bloody Sunset is a brawler with cannons. The Flyssa needs hitscan weapons (lances and other such weapons) to counter-snipe them as they emerge from their microjumps. Macro cannons or plasma macros won't work.
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[X] Accept the Terms of Surrender
HeroCooky
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You can designate so with a Free Action.
FUCKKKKK. was it because of the layout of the ships that included the Null-nets? I could understand the Orrery as they would pick up on the sentient soul shit in the black stones and the Ringyard Infiltration allowing us to try when they first arrived and the shit. But how would the dutchy wrecks have clued us into the Flyssa?
Oh good, something to do after this is over and over the rebuilding part we should do this so we can save on actions in the long run and use that corps to work on the Ashan Families, Mashan Temple Authority, and Black Ash Clan.
Its a little dumb but it works with how the definition would work and explain how it would be dogmatic instead of heretical. maybe it is just organization.
.... Ah, I was right. And yah that makes since, it would have clued us into the psytech nature of the ships and said some bad things they would have gotten from the Flyssas that would be connected to their weapons.
Nope, I'm saying diplomacy options that didn't give an immediate return, recall how long we sat on the irrita because we didn't know what we would get from it and not knowing how many AP it would need. We wanted to do reserach, SBG production, and other things before decided we need to at least start of the Evac options and found out about it. We ONLY did jolly cooperation because of the boost to development and never followed up on the families after that. The Tech Trade was that and no further things since then. We only did that because the other factions proved useful to us and worth an action. I'm saying doing things like a write in to start talks or the likes just to get them as allies or get actual diplomacy going when there wasn't an immediate return in someway concrete. Sure NOW we want the Irrita and to get them inside the Federation but was there an incentive to before we did that option?
Its also why I'm saying to set up a Diplomacy Corps like we did with the Office of Propaganda and use that to start on things. That way we save actions later on and having the option to the do the Black Ash Clan without saying we can't afford the actions to on them because of X.
Are you sure? last time I check if we change a SINGLE THING about the design, it stops working. We can't upgrade or change anything unless its a faith turn if we want the Aries to work as it is now. and part of the reason is that the design is more Cobra then the Cobra with its speed, firepower, and size.
Fair enough, guard duty and backline roles then for the Aries until we get a faith turn.
Yah that would slow down things in the clean up and cost some weeks to do. Glad we got our people out of there.
and nice, already working on repairs for the ships there. Sooner repairs are done faster we can push.
Yahhhh, given the size of them and the amount of people on them it would take some time to comb through them and make sure there aren't any pockets of resistance left there. We got control over the Ringyards thanks to the uprising and Lamenters but that just stopped them being blown up from being a possibility and controls over it.
Oh Holy shit we nuked the Nobles there. was that because our troopships had the weapon to do that and the option of subverting the generators to turn them off for the Spire's shields?
Oh looks like we have psyker battles with our choirs doing Melodies and Songs against the Psyker Lords. Nice little points of the Knights and SAG dropping and such.
Man it really is chaos down there. with the Noosphere in that state and damn five hundred million dead within a few months.... though not nearly as bad yet... remains to be seen how much we have taken and how many Hives remain contested.
Oh, that's a surprise to be certain. they're fine with doing their job still? okay, just change of owners. Works out for us in that case, we don't have to fight at all and we encourage other surrenders later down the line. While it is a shame they will supply the Dutchy on the planet as well, I don't think its too bad overall. We can still siege and concrete the forces to deal with any pockets of resistances. the fact they'll board a mining station and dismantle their engines is a good deal for us.
I think we can use bombers to strike non-stop if need be as well.
Yup this was my and others point last time. This part here is what we learned from the past battle and know what to expect. So targeting the Flyssa with Artillery frigates or sending strikecraft. staying out of range for the Null-nets and what ships to target to get rid of the Null-nets. Adding in to what they will target with the Null-nets, we can just not engage and whittle them down more.
okay not much of anything for the SDF but that's to be expected. A shit ton of Cobras but that's about half their forces and only two Flyssa's. I think they will be much more on point with on where they use them but only two of them. I will say that with the light cruisers, we'll have to draw it out but it'll be worth it to whittle down more of the destroyers and frigate since we need to shred them first. Light cruisers might get away but it'll be fine.
I do think this is doable. We just need to make sure to inform the Lamenters of the Null-Nets and the suspected range of them and the suspected Light Cruisers that have it, just to cover our bases and hope they don't continue past Echish.
exactly, not much well they can do and we should just check it. We'll have total control over space around the Hive World and if the Loyalist do that to the mega freighters, then use it in propaganda.
Agreed I would say its just important to deny them the Void so they don't start building up Defensive Stations and they can't bring anything else to reinforce the ground of Echish. I would like to take that as well and build up from there but at least holding the orbit of the planet and then using that to give up space to get a view of the fleet coming in against us or to stall there.
I will hope we can take it and turn it into a military outpost or colony again.
This is true, on the other hand this is their main recruiting world. I would say we should expect to weather another attack first. they are active on three other fronts so its going to take some time for that to happen for another attack.... unless they direct the orks at us.
but yah we have some breathing room here. What we really need to worry about is the Dutchy fracturing again like Neon and us needing to do something about that.
Yah, that checks out. really goes into their doctrine and strengths. So we..... fucking hell. Most of our navy uses Torpedoes so that's a bit hard not being able to use them as well. Strong Point defense will do that. I still advocate for some more Macro-Canons and Lance equipped ships.
Hah, checks out pretty well there but sadly it didn't happen that way.
Oh, do you mean the bombers? either way that's good when paired with the speed but a problem since our fighters are also being tasked with shooting down the torpedo spam. I don't think it'll be a problem if we skit the edge and keep to that way of fighting.
HAHAHA, I didn't even realize that. Holy shit give those Yeeni more tech to play around with or give them a bonus for that shit.
Don't tempt fate. They WILL do that somehow, though I don't know how they top the necron shit.
....DAMN IT ALL. its always the details and leaps of faith. That sounds so damn good with that. able to scout from the system over with that and at able to look and know shit about the system before jumping in to confirm with visuals or first hand info. Yah we need to get around to getting that done soon.
1. eh fair enough, I think we can deal with it.
2. ahhh I see, but I think the encouraging surrender makes it worth it since we are letting food through.
3. yup, not much for them to do.
4. sweet. push on to the Ecish.
5. ahhhh, yup part of the art of war. Leave a path open for the enemy and they will normally take it as oppose to fighting to the death. works best for us.
Okay so it can miss things but overall good for getting a first impression and we'll use the normal means for our scouts once they jump in system. and yah, just like when asked to explain how 40k tech works. Its 'magic/sci-fi' and that's that.
Ohhhh right, they would be needed for that. and given how things are, it makes sense for that, I assume things will resolve themselves once we head down and put things in order.
HAH, yah I bet the Knights will make them stop.
If we change a single thing about the design the Faith Weapons/Equipment stop working. But the only stuff we got is just a triple-barreled light macrocannon turret and what's effectively a light lance that fires twice as fast. A light rotary macrocannon with autoloaders and a medium lance should be able to compensate for that well enough.
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The admiral, sure.
But individual captains of humble Cobras?
And if it doesn't work, it's not like it costs us anything.
Pretty sure every single one of our Taurus-class troop transport have both normal and heavy Ortillery. Those will serve just fine to knock out hive spires if the shields go down - like they did because of the subversion action. We have control of both orbital bombardment and orbital protection. I'm looking forward to hearing more about that ground battle.
Speaking of - @HeroCooky I've looked at the Omake board a few times and not been struck by inspiration. Part of it is just that work & my own writing has ramped up, but do you have any prompts for battles within the hives? It's what's been on my mind. Obviously I'd prefer to write about Federation victories, though I'll settle for a Thermopylae style situation. It might be fun to write about an Inquisitor & his retinue trying to strike a choir and going up against the Templars (if the Inquisitor is still around?)
Honestly you're mostly right here, I didn't see your full argument and didn't want to change the previously written vote because the priority was getting a plan out there quickly so people would vote for it and actually have a strategy beyond 'yes'. I also didn't think it was significant enough to go back and change once you reminded me. It's probably a good idea, but the chance it earns us significant benefits is minor, and it does give us ammunition to throw at the van Zandt Mechanicum & Inquisition later.
Seriously, what's even up with the van Zandt Inquisition? All kinds of fucked up in ways they really should know better.
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[X] Plan: Extra Escorts
-[X] Accept the Terms of Surrender
-[X] We Fight!
--[X] Hold our Aries-S Corvettes & Sagittarius-S back to protect our backline, if any Flyssa arrives concentrate all fire on them--the Lover's Dance Lances combined with their impressive speed and our Sagittarius-S classes incredible firepower and range in the backline should do much to run down the Flyssa-class ships.
--[X] Bomber Strikes are to concentrate on Light Cruisers in the skirmishing phase, especially of models or specific hulls known to carry Null-Nets, ideally weakening them or forcing them to deploy their superweapons before our battle line closes.
--[X] Leos, Battlecolonies & Lamenter heavy cruiser ships are to focus on bullying enemy light craft when possible, spread out and keeping their distance from the light cruisers so that Null Net attacks are less likely to overtake them.
--[X] Scorpio & Crux-class ships are to focus on the light cruisers carrying null-nets, forcing them to be lost or deployed against imperfect targets that can dodge.
--[X] 2 Bloody Sunset cruisers escort the carriers
--[X] 2 Bloody Sunset cruisers try and hunt down the Flyssa's
The Bloody Sunset might not be ideal ships for killing the Flyssa's but as bombers wore them down they do stay in real space for a while.
They are better then most cannon armed ships as Flyssa killers we have as theirs are plasma ones with afterburner shell, loaded by autoloaders and aimed by Snapshot Pinpoint Targeting Solutions
and if i am wrong its only 4 ships out of our entire fleet.
They also have teleporters so if one Flyssa get disabled/looses its shields they can try and capture it.
-[X] Accept the Terms of Surrender
-[X] We Fight!
--[X] Hold our Aries-S Corvettes & Sagittarius-S back to protect our backline, if any Flyssa arrives concentrate all fire on them--the Lover's Dance Lances combined with their impressive speed and our Sagittarius-S classes incredible firepower and range in the backline should do much to run down the Flyssa-class ships.
--[X] Bomber Strikes are to concentrate on Light Cruisers in the skirmishing phase, especially of models or specific hulls known to carry Null-Nets, ideally weakening them or forcing them to deploy their superweapons before our battle line closes.
--[X] Leos, Battlecolonies & Lamenter heavy cruiser ships are to focus on bullying enemy light craft when possible, spread out and keeping their distance from the light cruisers so that Null Net attacks are less likely to overtake them.
--[X] Scorpio & Crux-class ships are to focus on the light cruisers carrying null-nets, forcing them to be lost or deployed against imperfect targets that can dodge.
--[X] 2 Bloody Sunset cruisers escort the carriers
--[X] 2 Bloody Sunset cruisers try and hunt down the Flyssa's
The Bloody Sunset might not be ideal ships for killing the Flyssa's but as bombers wore them down they do stay in real space for a while.
They are better then most cannon armed ships as Flyssa killers we have as theirs are plasma ones with afterburner shell, loaded by autoloaders and aimed by Snapshot Pinpoint Targeting Solutions
and if i am wrong its only 4 ships out of our entire fleet.
They also have teleporters so if one Flyssa get disabled/looses its shields they can try and capture it.
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HeroCooky
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Yeah, you can just grab one of the prompts I've written for myself if you like.
-Ogryn Shieldbearer and her squad ensure a tactical retreat from a hab-block succeeds by shielding the masses of refugees with her portable ion-shield, Yeeni snipers firing over/between them to silence the attacking PDF.
-A Psyker-Lord and their Acolytes attempt to kill a Choir with the aid of Kasrkin Squads as Templars and local Fifth Column Elements stop them.
-A Choir utterly annihilates the defences of a Hive with Song and the Melodies of Fire, Justice, and Death.
-a Choir no-sells an attempted shelling of a camp, returning fire with a Melody of Health to turn the enemy into cancer-ridden biomass blobs.
-Saint Candidate Theodorius leads the Ancient Pack in another charge against Hive defenses, the accumulated paint of centuries of handprints atop the backs of the Knights burning and flacking off in invisible fire as they shield locals charging with them beyond their shields.
-Native priest having the time of their life rousing millions with their sermons to rebell against the Nobles.
-Lamenter Tragedy #381560
Nothing more than usual. The OG Imperium Inquisition does contain Inquisitors that summon daemons and bind them to unwilling sacrifices as daemonhosts for shits and giggles. They are called Radicals.
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There are a lot of forms of Radicals and that is a sub-type of them by large.Nothing more than usual. The OG Imperium Inquisition does contain Inquisitors that summon daemons and bind them to unwilling sacrifices as daemonhosts for shits and giggles. They are called Radicals.
[X] Accept the Terms of Surrender
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God damn it. Again?
Statistically I think we've had at least 4 figures of them. Even with us being statistically more safety then the Imperium and the Lamenters moving around less while they've been with us.
@HeroCooky
Would it ever be possible to upgrade Aries-S, without letting holy incense out? If so, do we need more research into psytech or perhaps specialized songs?
Would it ever be possible to upgrade Aries-S, without letting holy incense out? If so, do we need more research into psytech or perhaps specialized songs?
HeroCooky
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Yes. By rolling for another Faith Turn (55 from a 1d100) via Psykana Rolls.
Vote closed
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Is it one psykana roll per action?
864.M42 - Flee Once More
HeroCooky
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It is with thunderous collapses of reality that the Federation Fleet arrives within the Echish system, their sensors already pinging against the ships surrounding Phantom, and the attached Choirs find that the Warp is filled with messages screamed at the nearest world. With idle smugness, they find that the methods used by the Duchy's Psyker Lords are far more primitive than the Song used by the Federation to connect star systems to their neighbors.
With far more interest to High Admiral Huntress is the way the Duchy Fleet has taken position over Phantom, seemingly uncertain if they are to fight or defend the world, hours ticking by as the ships fire off communications between themselves and the planet as noticed by the bleed-off of their communications systems and the sensors of the Federation.
And then, as a day passes and the two fleets are a mere hour away from engaging in combat, the Duchy Fleet ignites its engines...to flee once more.
Bewildered, several scans are taken at that revelation before the fact seems to take hold; the Duchy is retreating from Echish. A quick call by the Choirs of the SBGs confirms that the Duchy Fleet has received a shout from a nearby system, and though its contents could not be deciphered, the Choirs agree that the fleet has been ordered to retreat to conserve strength.
...most likely.
Which leaves the fleet, once more, in an awkward position. Technically, it is now in near-to-full control over the Echish system, with only a smattering of SDF ships desperately screaming at their comrades to turn around remaining in the near future. Even if these ships were crewed by the elite of the elite and blessed with captains and a commodore capable of wielding each piece to its utmost extent...the 200 ships of the Federation would win by default of having far more tonnage than they.
So...what now?
(6-Hour Moratorium)
[] (Write-In)
Do you stil follow your plan with Echish (destroy local Void Infrastructre and then bail)? What are the next movements of the fleet. Do you pursue? Change plan and invade Echish? Try something else?
AN: God, I do so love an excuse to have a short write.
With far more interest to High Admiral Huntress is the way the Duchy Fleet has taken position over Phantom, seemingly uncertain if they are to fight or defend the world, hours ticking by as the ships fire off communications between themselves and the planet as noticed by the bleed-off of their communications systems and the sensors of the Federation.
And then, as a day passes and the two fleets are a mere hour away from engaging in combat, the Duchy Fleet ignites its engines...to flee once more.
Bewildered, several scans are taken at that revelation before the fact seems to take hold; the Duchy is retreating from Echish. A quick call by the Choirs of the SBGs confirms that the Duchy Fleet has received a shout from a nearby system, and though its contents could not be deciphered, the Choirs agree that the fleet has been ordered to retreat to conserve strength.
...most likely.
Which leaves the fleet, once more, in an awkward position. Technically, it is now in near-to-full control over the Echish system, with only a smattering of SDF ships desperately screaming at their comrades to turn around remaining in the near future. Even if these ships were crewed by the elite of the elite and blessed with captains and a commodore capable of wielding each piece to its utmost extent...the 200 ships of the Federation would win by default of having far more tonnage than they.
So...what now?
(6-Hour Moratorium)
[] (Write-In)
Do you stil follow your plan with Echish (destroy local Void Infrastructre and then bail)? What are the next movements of the fleet. Do you pursue? Change plan and invade Echish? Try something else?
2 (1, 1, 1) - Duchy Preparations - Yeah, we can't hold here. Strategic Retreat!
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Alectai
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... Not a great choice, but I'll take it. Never interrupt the enemy when they're making a mistake after all.
Honestly, do we have any idea what the Echish garrison looks like right now @HeroCooky ? Because it looks ripe to pivot our plans to just seize the infrastructure and commandeer it as our FOB. And a crit-fail on their prep effectively ceding our stretch goal without a fight is ideal. It lets us set our front line at Echish.
Honestly, do we have any idea what the Echish garrison looks like right now @HeroCooky ? Because it looks ripe to pivot our plans to just seize the infrastructure and commandeer it as our FOB. And a crit-fail on their prep effectively ceding our stretch goal without a fight is ideal. It lets us set our front line at Echish.
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HeroCooky
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You guess it to be about ~6 SAGs worth in soldiers, with likely another 5~10 worth in fortifications.
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They just...left? Quickly gonna look at the map hold on.