Probably the latter since we did syncretize with the Yeeni, but then again that was helped due to having a religion similar to ours so no idea how that will work with the Mashan High Temple.
Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
- Thread starter HeroCooky
- Start date
- Mature Sci-Fi
I think that it is probably more complicated, like the rewards aren't monkey paws in themselves but without background, they are seeds for heresy. So good interstellar trade is good in itself, but if we trade with chaos infiltrated states and didn't have a way to find cults, it would be bad.
A Star And A Good Meet - [Crack]
- Location
- USA
Deep inside of the warp, far from the eyes of 4 laid an area that can best described as a refuge. Far from the hidden labyrinth that hides the laughing madness of the elder jester god, and the flowing souls of the infinity circuits who sing of death to exuess.
Two young gods, meet one not truly formed and the other hated by her own people. But inside of them, they share something, the will to stand up straight to the horrors, the sanity to be civilized and speak, hope for their people to live, the courage to keep going, and the will to be a shield. But each knows the others are missing parts of their true self, they are barely born shades of the truth that will come.
But maybe there could be something more than war btween the two people who wish to make the galaxy more than darkness, a small light to drive back the shadows.
A winged egg lay by the side of the many-armed goddess. One pair of her hands prepares tea, her second pair holds fans hiding her smiling face. Something within the winged egg pulses with power and emotion, making her giggle as she would say. Her voice was both soothing and seductive tone."Oh shh you, I know your little doves are growing their wings. Quite proud of them aren't you?" The egg would pulse with gold light for a second before going back to its white silver. She would smile at that and say. " Fine fine, yes they are growing up. That stolen ship is quite strange. I don't know what to make of it myself." The egg pulses black and red, goddess talks back. "Yes, you are right. It is something to worry about, it's more advanced than anything I have seen either. I do hope one day my people can accept me like yours can dear." The egg would pulse with pink and blue causing the goddess to blush as her third pair of hands which have been resting go to her blushing face as she says. "O not like that, well their love story as you have told is great. And their love even greater. I just wish someone like that at times." The egg pulsed with pink, blue, and then yellow making the goddess laugh and then say. "Right, right it would be some quiet time. I do hope to see your true form one day. You have been a kind host for one such I." The Egg would pulse more red, blue, and purple. As the goddess would consider then say. "I see, yes they should be nearby. Maybe I could mmm." The egg would pulse with yellow, red, then grey. " Right right, best to keep them separate for now. But I do wish our people could grow to be close. The safety that could be gained in each other's arms." The goddess would hum, as the egg would wait before pulsing white twice then yellow. As the goddess would respond. "Ah I see, you want to make it so your people are on the right side where peace is the true option? Together even, quite the charmer aren't you~" The egg pulses in green, grey, then yellow. As the goddess would give a nod at that. "I see, yeah I should take my leave. I hope you are well my host, may your people grow and deny the darkness." The egg would pulse as she takes her leave, pulsing a bright white light then a low blue to dark pink.
Note: It's kind of short mainly because I don't want to make too many things true in this as I feel OP should have a lot of say in personality and how they should act. And its meant to be crack as shit. But one thing I will say, is both are meant to be romantics.
Two young gods, meet one not truly formed and the other hated by her own people. But inside of them, they share something, the will to stand up straight to the horrors, the sanity to be civilized and speak, hope for their people to live, the courage to keep going, and the will to be a shield. But each knows the others are missing parts of their true self, they are barely born shades of the truth that will come.
But maybe there could be something more than war btween the two people who wish to make the galaxy more than darkness, a small light to drive back the shadows.
A winged egg lay by the side of the many-armed goddess. One pair of her hands prepares tea, her second pair holds fans hiding her smiling face. Something within the winged egg pulses with power and emotion, making her giggle as she would say. Her voice was both soothing and seductive tone."Oh shh you, I know your little doves are growing their wings. Quite proud of them aren't you?" The egg would pulse with gold light for a second before going back to its white silver. She would smile at that and say. " Fine fine, yes they are growing up. That stolen ship is quite strange. I don't know what to make of it myself." The egg pulses black and red, goddess talks back. "Yes, you are right. It is something to worry about, it's more advanced than anything I have seen either. I do hope one day my people can accept me like yours can dear." The egg would pulse with pink and blue causing the goddess to blush as her third pair of hands which have been resting go to her blushing face as she says. "O not like that, well their love story as you have told is great. And their love even greater. I just wish someone like that at times." The egg pulsed with pink, blue, and then yellow making the goddess laugh and then say. "Right, right it would be some quiet time. I do hope to see your true form one day. You have been a kind host for one such I." The Egg would pulse more red, blue, and purple. As the goddess would consider then say. "I see, yes they should be nearby. Maybe I could mmm." The egg would pulse with yellow, red, then grey. " Right right, best to keep them separate for now. But I do wish our people could grow to be close. The safety that could be gained in each other's arms." The goddess would hum, as the egg would wait before pulsing white twice then yellow. As the goddess would respond. "Ah I see, you want to make it so your people are on the right side where peace is the true option? Together even, quite the charmer aren't you~" The egg pulses in green, grey, then yellow. As the goddess would give a nod at that. "I see, yeah I should take my leave. I hope you are well my host, may your people grow and deny the darkness." The egg would pulse as she takes her leave, pulsing a bright white light then a low blue to dark pink.
Note: It's kind of short mainly because I don't want to make too many things true in this as I feel OP should have a lot of say in personality and how they should act. And its meant to be crack as shit. But one thing I will say, is both are meant to be romantics.
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
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So, you're saying that our Faith actions don't matter, the very fact that we have a sophisticated interstellar economy means Heresy is inevitable because apparently they forget everything they knew and grew up for in the face of trinkets?
I'm trying to figure out if we're about to get into a fight with the Mashan Temple Authority right after we fight Chaos. Something tells me that a nation with the name Temple Authority already has a religion and probably doesn't want to toss out said religion wholesale for a new one.
Edit: I basically don't want to get into a fight with another hypothetical polity which for all intents and purposes is a good one and could be a potential ally but we fight them instead because they believe in the wrong god. We've got enough potential enemies without creating more.
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Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
I don't expect traps in the traits either, but I wouldn't be surprised if a seemingly overpowered trait actually wasn't.
And Civilian Shipping and what we were told of ISCs very much seems to be.
Perhaps patronizing them just takes Actions like Jolly Economic Co-Operation.
And Civilian Shipping and what we were told of ISCs very much seems to be.
Perhaps patronizing them just takes Actions like Jolly Economic Co-Operation.
I don't actually see the problem? We aren't gonna auto invade them or anything sure they won't join us because of that but that fine? we can be allies
- Location
- USA
I think the point was, Heresy is going to be something we have to deal with at some point because Chaos will keep trying and that isn't new?
Yeah that's my basic concern. Are we zealots on the level that we'll crusade against anyone who isn't of our religion? Or are we able to ally with nations with other faiths. I'm perfectly fine with the latter.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Yeah, but Chaos generally needs something to work with, and they don't have the luxury of being able to do cheap sympathetic corruption tricks where one dude succumbs and then everyone vaguely attached to them shrugs, gets evil grins and starts conducting atrocities.
We have a society that there's plenty of opportunity for self-actualization, where people aren't starving, that have a full life of faith and secular activities, and plenty of things to do. We back this up with a wall that prevents the Chaos Gods from just taking advantage of us anyway because "Lol Chaos Wins".
All of their easy ways to corrupt have been closed off.
Which isn't to say that we're invincible, far from it. But they have to actually work for it instead of just showing someone a shady symbol and creating a swarm of mindless cultists who'll invite them in without further work, and Chaos is... Generally not very smart. Powerful, but not smart. They win because the Imperium doesn't even bother putting up more than a token defense against them and Chaos gets to throw the dice a thousand times a 'Turn' and claim victory if any one of them turn up favorably.
They're very powerful, but creative is the last thing they are. Take away their ability to just steal your power and skill for themselves and they become Just Another Course Hazard of the Grim Dark Future rather than the Ultimate Enemy of the Cosmos.
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we didn't auto invaded the ashen familes so I don't think we are auto crusade. Also we have had peaceful contact with Mashan too
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
It's people trying to find a reason to take the 25 action route by making the Trait option look worse. It's fairly standard debating tactics.
As annoying as they are, it hasn't gotten to the point of insanity yet, except maybe the absurd Robot = Omnipotence bit from earlier in the day.
- Location
- USA
I don't think I ever claimed Robot = Omnipotence bit? Where the fuck is that coming from?
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
I'm intentionally exaggerating, it just came off to me as such a weird thing to fixate on
- Location
- USA
I think the idea of having robots to spend instead of lives or even something to help with other things is very fucking useful.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Yeah, but it's not priceless like having a functioning interstellar economy is to me.
And I don't think there's a Secret Way to get Even Better than the Milestone option either.
We might be able to get a consolation prize, but I doubt we can fully replicate a Milestone Trait.
- Location
- USA
??? It would be a Milestone Traits? They were coming from X for things?
No, my point was that without faith (and other kinds of actions), the reward would be poison, but because we laid a good foundation, it will be only good.
But for example, if T'au, who are known for treating not-T'au as 2nd class citizens, managed to make an AI and mass-produce robots but treated them as slaves, they would need to deal with robot rebellion at best and chaos possession at worst.
I am honestly 50/50 on the Trio of Traits or the 25 actions, But fuck if it ain't enticing to see what a faith turn Heavy cruiser with all of our DP traits could look like, Our arsenal was so much smaller back then for options, and the Aries that the faith turn built is only being eclipsed NOW, after like 50ish turns and a shit ton of DP bonuses. Unfortunately, I just think the Faith term is the Real short term pay off option inless it lets us do some truly silly faith actions.
Also, Whats with all of this paranoia all of a sudden about corruption? Not only do we have our Inquisition style searchers all set up, we now no-sell an incredibly large amount of the subtle tricks that typically let chaos infiltration slip by through memetic bullshit, meaning they have to exert actual effort, Effort that makes them easier to find with for our inquisition. We aren't invulnerable, but now is not the time to start getting paranoid over chaos corruption .
Also, Whats with all of this paranoia all of a sudden about corruption? Not only do we have our Inquisition style searchers all set up, we now no-sell an incredibly large amount of the subtle tricks that typically let chaos infiltration slip by through memetic bullshit, meaning they have to exert actual effort, Effort that makes them easier to find with for our inquisition. We aren't invulnerable, but now is not the time to start getting paranoid over chaos corruption .
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Look, ultimately, I just don't feel like I want to take a shot in the dark and hope we pick out the option that'll make us Super OP.
I'd rather arrange things to maintain steady forward progress. One of the things we were told is that setting our ISC to infrastructure development means we'd get 2-1 progression pre All-V. Here, we can use it to compensate for our delayed increase, which allows us to continue advancing step by step, and presumably gives us other cool options to work with as well. Improving our ship production on top of that will help us compensate for being the small fish here by giving us enough production to field 4 Heavy Cruisers per action if we decided to be crazy take that option.
The only one I think is up for negotiation is the third trait. Which I think should be mass produced augmetics or Healthy Food.
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- Location
- Somewhere on Earth
I do think people are a bit too quick to dismiss A Beacon Unto The Future. I don't think it'll be giving us regular miracle casting, but our main enemy is probably going to be Chaos for a good while, and while ignoring minor chaos corruption has saved our bacon I think if it was even exclusively defending against moderate chaos corruption that would be more than worth it, and completely shut down any Chaos attempts to use their main weapon outside of one of a kind keystone rituals. And if it does offer miracle casting, well, that just kicks ass all the more.
Wait a minute aren't C'tan know as the star gods... Could the boosted faith trait rekindle the souls of Necrons... or at least start the process, I mean we have that abandoned sub-sector that I think is probably full of tombworlds
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
I sincerely doubt it's that easy.
I mean probably not more than a simple forgotten memory being remembered but imagine us converting the Silent King he... should be around... here. FUCK!