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Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
- Thread starter HeroCooky
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Probably not super long - but we have a better option. Stick a Choir on each Taurus! We've only got two.
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ok so the question is, would it be possible to press on to still hit some of the other targets? I'm worried if we don't deal neon a big blow to their shipbuilding we won't be able to hold this system for long.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
We don't need to stay put for long, but fortunately, we shouldn't have to. Long range comms still aren't great for factions that aren't us. That being said, we shouldn't dally either. As long as we can at least secure Brigach, we should probably be mostly okay.
cause nothing good happens in 40k and if it does shit is about to happenThread's literally playing the "Bet It All On Societal Buffs" Faction that grows stronger the more it cleaves to its chosen ideology and wonders why good stuff happens when they start doing just that.
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I am still somewhat on the "All of Neon just erupted into Civil War" theory. I don't know if it's true but I can sorta see it happening in a "The tactics the Imperium uses to pre-emptively handle rebellions doesn't work" thing.
You know, i'm still on the part that the Neon won't even know that those planets erupted in revolt, like they are bogged by the Chaos and really don't have the ships capable to go and see what the fuck is going on or even receive any messages, like this should give us a very good margin to complete our objetive and maybe still get even more done, idk maybe get into that one !NotForge World and destroy things a bit there too.
Maybe proc that hereteck perk there too, a nice mechanicus civil war is good for us, with us getting the genetics as they are the more ''liberal'' if that word even mean anything in 40k, of the factions on the ''what the word of the Omnissiah mean'' in the cult.
Maybe proc that hereteck perk there too, a nice mechanicus civil war is good for us, with us getting the genetics as they are the more ''liberal'' if that word even mean anything in 40k, of the factions on the ''what the word of the Omnissiah mean'' in the cult.
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
[X] Plan: Admiral K-531 sighed as they unsheathe their E-Tool.
-[X] We were not expecting significant ground combat here, but between the humanitarian crisis that will unfold if we fail to act and the value of seizing Quintura Diablo largely intact through supporting a popular revolt, weighed against the disruption to FLOWERING THORN's schedule, sacrifices must be made.
--[X] To that end, deploy the First Perfinda and First Gnatilla to backstop the revolution, making use of our reserve Tauruses as required. We might lose a few weeks to reorganize the numbers--even with Choir and Andromeda support, but we'll need that time to gather information on the new boardstate and to determine how widespread this situation actually is, and if we need to pivot to picking up the slack from Neon dropping the ball, or if we need to get back to bullying them again.
-[X] The surrender of Burning Fist of Heroes and its compatriots is certainly appreciated, and they will be shown all due respect for an honorable surrender. But... Uh, it would be appreciated if they could enlighten you as to why. Our experience with Imperial Fundamentalists generally boils down to "Will gladly burn their next generation to slightly inconvenience a rival.", and an understanding of just what might have happened to change that usual calculus would be appreciated, to say the least. The last thing we want to do is run face first into some abomination or another when we were expecting a more traditional liberation campaign.
--[X] TL;DR, Accept the surrender, treat them well for it, maybe figure out what the fuck changed that this suddenly became anything other than an unthinkable act by using that most mysterious technique of Civilized Conversation.
-[X] We were not expecting significant ground combat here, but between the humanitarian crisis that will unfold if we fail to act and the value of seizing Quintura Diablo largely intact through supporting a popular revolt, weighed against the disruption to FLOWERING THORN's schedule, sacrifices must be made.
--[X] To that end, deploy the First Perfinda and First Gnatilla to backstop the revolution, making use of our reserve Tauruses as required. We might lose a few weeks to reorganize the numbers--even with Choir and Andromeda support, but we'll need that time to gather information on the new boardstate and to determine how widespread this situation actually is, and if we need to pivot to picking up the slack from Neon dropping the ball, or if we need to get back to bullying them again.
-[X] The surrender of Burning Fist of Heroes and its compatriots is certainly appreciated, and they will be shown all due respect for an honorable surrender. But... Uh, it would be appreciated if they could enlighten you as to why. Our experience with Imperial Fundamentalists generally boils down to "Will gladly burn their next generation to slightly inconvenience a rival.", and an understanding of just what might have happened to change that usual calculus would be appreciated, to say the least. The last thing we want to do is run face first into some abomination or another when we were expecting a more traditional liberation campaign.
--[X] TL;DR, Accept the surrender, treat them well for it, maybe figure out what the fuck changed that this suddenly became anything other than an unthinkable act by using that most mysterious technique of Civilized Conversation.
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Stolen a bit from @Alectai
[X] Plan: DEW ON THE THORN
-[X] Don't destroy the void infastructure in Quintara Diablo as is the plan in the original FLOWERING THORN.
-[X] The surrender of Burning Fist of Heroes and its compatriots is certainly appreciated, and they will be shown all due respect for an honorable surrender. But... Uh, it would be appreciated if they could enlighten you as to why. Assuming a reasonable answer, accept the ships surrender but demand they power off their weapons and shields and allow boarder inspectors. If there are any doubts that they might turn on us, the ships can be evacuated, likely to the rebellious Moon. If they're willing to join our cause wholesale, we will place observers on their bridges and send them to Barbarun to stiffen the defenses there and be under the guns of our fortresses & secondary defense fleet.
-[X] As soon as the ships are cleared, task force Alpha will continue with the stated objectives of FLOWERING THORN, preferably without changing objectives unless we encounter more revolts.
-[X] Use Choirs to bring up the two existing Taurus' to Quintara Diablo, with the 1st Neumidia & First Gnatilla SAGs aboard, to assist the rebels and conquer both planets.
-[X] When the rush-built Andromeda & more Taurus' are completed, they will come to Quintara Diablo carrying the First Perfindian and Third Droman SAGs, then the Andromeda can help the converted ships move to Barbarun.
[X] Plan: DEW ON THE THORN
-[X] Don't destroy the void infastructure in Quintara Diablo as is the plan in the original FLOWERING THORN.
-[X] The surrender of Burning Fist of Heroes and its compatriots is certainly appreciated, and they will be shown all due respect for an honorable surrender. But... Uh, it would be appreciated if they could enlighten you as to why. Assuming a reasonable answer, accept the ships surrender but demand they power off their weapons and shields and allow boarder inspectors. If there are any doubts that they might turn on us, the ships can be evacuated, likely to the rebellious Moon. If they're willing to join our cause wholesale, we will place observers on their bridges and send them to Barbarun to stiffen the defenses there and be under the guns of our fortresses & secondary defense fleet.
-[X] As soon as the ships are cleared, task force Alpha will continue with the stated objectives of FLOWERING THORN, preferably without changing objectives unless we encounter more revolts.
-[X] Use Choirs to bring up the two existing Taurus' to Quintara Diablo, with the 1st Neumidia & First Gnatilla SAGs aboard, to assist the rebels and conquer both planets.
-[X] When the rush-built Andromeda & more Taurus' are completed, they will come to Quintara Diablo carrying the First Perfindian and Third Droman SAGs, then the Andromeda can help the converted ships move to Barbarun.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
... Buddy, that's almost identical to my plan, except more micromanagey. Of course they're going to keep the void infrastructure in one piece if we're resolving to stick around here if it hasn't already been razed, and they're not moving anywhere for a few weeks anyway until we've gotten boots on the ground.
Do not micromanage the campaign. We have an experienced commander doing this. Authorize the deployment of ground forces for Quintura, and while he can't move due to the lack of an Andromeda (Due to needing to collect those ground forces), he can gather intel on the defectors and What The Fuck is going on here.
Yes, the general revolt is good, in that it gives us an actual chance of grabbing Quintura Diablo--likely the biggest prize we could get in the area of our operations, we also need to know if this is local, or if there's a general revolution going on in Neon space that we need to adapt towards.
Trust the Commander to know what they're doing. Our job is to set broad goals and authorize the release of resources. But if pie is going to fall from the sky, we're absolutely going to try to make sure it doesn't go splat--and in doing so, make a future integration that much harder (Because we left the actual people who wanted Out to die)
Do not micromanage the campaign. We have an experienced commander doing this. Authorize the deployment of ground forces for Quintura, and while he can't move due to the lack of an Andromeda (Due to needing to collect those ground forces), he can gather intel on the defectors and What The Fuck is going on here.
Yes, the general revolt is good, in that it gives us an actual chance of grabbing Quintura Diablo--likely the biggest prize we could get in the area of our operations, we also need to know if this is local, or if there's a general revolution going on in Neon space that we need to adapt towards.
Trust the Commander to know what they're doing. Our job is to set broad goals and authorize the release of resources. But if pie is going to fall from the sky, we're absolutely going to try to make sure it doesn't go splat--and in doing so, make a future integration that much harder (Because we left the actual people who wanted Out to die)
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Blackangel
Preacher of the dice gods
[X] Plan: Admiral K-531 sighed as they unsheathe their E-Tool.
-[X] We were not expecting significant ground combat here, but between the humanitarian crisis that will unfold if we fail to act and the value of seizing Quintura Diablo largely intact through supporting a popular revolt, weighed against the disruption to FLOWERING THORN's schedule, sacrifices must be made.
--[X] To that end, deploy the First Perfinda and First Gnatilla to backstop the revolution, making use of our reserve Tauruses as required. We might lose a few weeks to reorganize the numbers--even with Choir and Andromeda support, but we'll need that time to gather information on the new boardstate and to determine how widespread this situation actually is, and if we need to pivot to picking up the slack from Neon dropping the ball, or if we need to get back to bullying them again.
-[X] The surrender of Burning Fist of Heroes and its compatriots is certainly appreciated, and they will be shown all due respect for an honorable surrender. But... Uh, it would be appreciated if they could enlighten you as to why. Our experience with Imperial Fundamentalists generally boils down to "Will gladly burn their next generation to slightly inconvenience a rival.", and an understanding of just what might have happened to change that usual calculus would be appreciated, to say the least. The last thing we want to do is run face first into some abomination or another when we were expecting a more traditional liberation campaign.
--[X] TL;DR, Accept the surrender, treat them well for it, maybe figure out what the fuck changed that this suddenly became anything other than an unthinkable act by using that most mysterious technique of Civilized Conversation.
This one. Covers all the points I want addressed, has a proper change of war plan, and is set to give us the most info.
-[X] We were not expecting significant ground combat here, but between the humanitarian crisis that will unfold if we fail to act and the value of seizing Quintura Diablo largely intact through supporting a popular revolt, weighed against the disruption to FLOWERING THORN's schedule, sacrifices must be made.
--[X] To that end, deploy the First Perfinda and First Gnatilla to backstop the revolution, making use of our reserve Tauruses as required. We might lose a few weeks to reorganize the numbers--even with Choir and Andromeda support, but we'll need that time to gather information on the new boardstate and to determine how widespread this situation actually is, and if we need to pivot to picking up the slack from Neon dropping the ball, or if we need to get back to bullying them again.
-[X] The surrender of Burning Fist of Heroes and its compatriots is certainly appreciated, and they will be shown all due respect for an honorable surrender. But... Uh, it would be appreciated if they could enlighten you as to why. Our experience with Imperial Fundamentalists generally boils down to "Will gladly burn their next generation to slightly inconvenience a rival.", and an understanding of just what might have happened to change that usual calculus would be appreciated, to say the least. The last thing we want to do is run face first into some abomination or another when we were expecting a more traditional liberation campaign.
--[X] TL;DR, Accept the surrender, treat them well for it, maybe figure out what the fuck changed that this suddenly became anything other than an unthinkable act by using that most mysterious technique of Civilized Conversation.
This one. Covers all the points I want addressed, has a proper change of war plan, and is set to give us the most info.
[X] Plan: Admiral K-531 sighed as they unsheathe their E-Tool
Professor Vesca
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[X] Plan: Admiral K-531 sighed as they unsheathe their E-Tool.
-[X] We were not expecting significant ground combat here, but between the humanitarian crisis that will unfold if we fail to act and the value of seizing Quintura Diablo largely intact through supporting a popular revolt, weighed against the disruption to FLOWERING THORN's schedule, sacrifices must be made.
--[X] To that end, deploy the First Perfinda and First Gnatilla to backstop the revolution, making use of our reserve Tauruses as required. We might lose a few weeks to reorganize the numbers--even with Choir and Andromeda support, but we'll need that time to gather information on the new boardstate and to determine how widespread this situation actually is, and if we need to pivot to picking up the slack from Neon dropping the ball, or if we need to get back to bullying them again.
-[X] The surrender of Burning Fist of Heroes and its compatriots is certainly appreciated, and they will be shown all due respect for an honorable surrender. But... Uh, it would be appreciated if they could enlighten you as to why. Our experience with Imperial Fundamentalists generally boils down to "Will gladly burn their next generation to slightly inconvenience a rival.", and an understanding of just what might have happened to change that usual calculus would be appreciated, to say the least. The last thing we want to do is run face first into some abomination or another when we were expecting a more traditional liberation campaign.
--[X] TL;DR, Accept the surrender, treat them well for it, maybe figure out what the fuck changed that this suddenly became anything other than an unthinkable act by using that most mysterious technique of Civilized Conversation.
-[X] We were not expecting significant ground combat here, but between the humanitarian crisis that will unfold if we fail to act and the value of seizing Quintura Diablo largely intact through supporting a popular revolt, weighed against the disruption to FLOWERING THORN's schedule, sacrifices must be made.
--[X] To that end, deploy the First Perfinda and First Gnatilla to backstop the revolution, making use of our reserve Tauruses as required. We might lose a few weeks to reorganize the numbers--even with Choir and Andromeda support, but we'll need that time to gather information on the new boardstate and to determine how widespread this situation actually is, and if we need to pivot to picking up the slack from Neon dropping the ball, or if we need to get back to bullying them again.
-[X] The surrender of Burning Fist of Heroes and its compatriots is certainly appreciated, and they will be shown all due respect for an honorable surrender. But... Uh, it would be appreciated if they could enlighten you as to why. Our experience with Imperial Fundamentalists generally boils down to "Will gladly burn their next generation to slightly inconvenience a rival.", and an understanding of just what might have happened to change that usual calculus would be appreciated, to say the least. The last thing we want to do is run face first into some abomination or another when we were expecting a more traditional liberation campaign.
--[X] TL;DR, Accept the surrender, treat them well for it, maybe figure out what the fuck changed that this suddenly became anything other than an unthinkable act by using that most mysterious technique of Civilized Conversation.
Yeah, it's a similar plan because we're mostly in agreement on what should be done. I do think there are a few key differences between our plans that are worth voting over, and I don't agree that this is too micro-managy. My criticisms of your plan is that it's too light on details and that it should use the Neumidian SAG unit to help it get veterency, and bring up two more with the new Taurus's since 5 billion people are going to take a lot of army even with a rebellion already. My plan allows the Admiral to put the surrendered ships under our command, and to move the fleet on even before the Taurus' arrive to maintain strategic surprise. I don't know if it will be weeks for them to get here or six months, and if it's the latter I'd prefer we get moving.
There are enough differences to justify a separate plan, though they're similar enough I'll be quite happy with your plan winning, as it often does.
There are enough differences to justify a separate plan, though they're similar enough I'll be quite happy with your plan winning, as it often does.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Look at Neumidia's makeup.
The places I selected were selected because they excelled at holding ground, which is the important thing here. We want to support the uprising, but we don't necessarily want to steamroll the place--just prevent the uprising from getting wiped out. We don't want to drop any units with Kil'drabi assets either because that's probably a step too far and risks too much confusion.
Neumidia has two Heavy Mechanized Assault units, they're logistical hogs too, when we can't necessarily guarantee regular resupply if we're going to continue the Operation. While we can likely scavenge supplies on site as we go due to having a similar base state and power packs and Chimeras being the only thing in the universe more ubiquitous than gravity, that has a limit. Heavy Mechanized Assaults units are going to eat a lot of it.
We also can't take the rest of the surrenders with us if we wanted to, because we don't have the Andromeda capacity to add them in, so they're stuck system hopping.
Don't micromanage, sign off the resources and an intent, and leave it for the dudes on the ground to sort it out.
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Can't the Taurus's support them pretty effectively, especially with 2 more + an andromeda on the way? I would think that heavy assault and light tanks would be ideal for taking a civilized world with good roads and a variety of terrain.
I will be honest though, I'm primarily sending them to get a veteran unit and because I kind of want to write another Omake about them.
I will be honest though, I'm primarily sending them to get a veteran unit and because I kind of want to write another Omake about them.
ConfusedCanuck
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[X] Plan: DEW ON THE THORN