- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Pretty much. I also find it rather interesting how war and soldiers are going to be associated as a feminine activity rather than a masculine activity.
Spirit Quest
- Thread starter Oshha
- Start date
- Original Fantasy
Pretty much. I also find it rather interesting how war and soldiers are going to be associated as a feminine activity rather than a masculine activity.
- Location
- United States
Hmm, I wonder if Seryn is going to start running into population issues soon.
Considering that many of those who took her Gift were men who still desire to lay with women, it basically takes them out of the breeding population.
So unless Seryn begins to restrict her Gift to females only, or she begins to find some other way to bump up population growth, I can see that becoming an issue for her a generation or so down the line.
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Not really. A women can only be impregnate by one man at once, but a man can impregnate several women at once so they aren't being taking out of the breeding population. If it was the other way (female to male rather than male to female) around, then you might be correct. And if Seryn does run into problems with population numbers, she can just institute breeding programs (through some voters might have ethical problems with that). While were are on the subject, Seryn will end up not giving it to all men (which most won't unless they wish to become a warrior or hunter or are old enough that they want to get a second chance at life or are homesexual.)
While this hasn't taken place yet, the Gift of the Mighty Body will most likely be eschewed unless you want to become a proper warrior or hunter really badly or if you are homesexual or a transwomen and want to openly embrace your feelings. Otherwise, it will be taken by men and women who reach old age at about 60 to 70 or so (the people have local lifespans than normal due to spirits healing injuries and ailments) who desire to continue living longer. Which would be most of the population as there would be some who don't want the Gift of the Mighty Body even if means living longer or are okay with dying of old age. While this has yet to be confirmed due to the newness of the Gift of the Mighty One, those who take it will live for longer than normal due to getting a top grade genetic-wise body and then when you take into account the supernatural endurability and constitution of the blessing, someone with the Gift of the Mighty One could easily live for two to three times the lifespan on an unblessed mortal.
Because of this, Seryn and Evatine both theorise that you could eventually get mortal followers living until over 250 years collectively.
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Metrux
Gentle Demon Lord
- Location
- Brasil
This long life span by itself could prove to be a problem, no? Ancient techniques, if the population last more but grows the same (or faster, if those warriors bear more children) then she won't be able to provide enough food. She'll need outside help, or maybe even invading neighbors for food or space to plant more. Honestly, none of our villages are ready for such a civilization breaking trait...
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Then Seryn forbids her followers from having more babies until they get to a sustainable level.
Think of this way, your population will end up being disportionately female due to having everyone over eighty being a female, but you won't need to worry about overpopulation too much. Too many people? Reduce the amount of babies being made. Too few people? Increase the amount of babies being made by having men impregnate multiple women at once.
- Location
- United States
Wait, so our villages are gonna be ruled by long lived catgirls?
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- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Wait, so our villages are gonna be ruled by long lived catgirls?
We have already brought forth the power of anime
I believe it has because apparent that I did not think of the long term implications of the Gift of the Mighty Body when I introduced it.
- Location
- United States
Like I've said before, I have no problems with you nerfing it if you think it is too powerful.
But on that note, I wonder if this will enhance our spirit of Fatherhood at all?
Since we are known for having kitten daughters, and all of our strongest warriors and be wisest elders will be catgirls....
Thors_Alumni
Proud member of Thors Class VII from Liberl
- Location
- Liberl Zemuria.
Ya think! Maybe you should come up with some way to Nerf it if it is too OP.
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I was more referring to how I didn't realise some of the implications and potential usages of the blessing until after I introduced in a posted update. For example, I didn't realise that your civ will eventually be run by catgirls until last night and I didn't consider how it come be used as a method of increasing population until Veekie brought it up and I didn't consider how warfare would associated as feminine activity in your culture until the weekend.
It isn't about me not realising that it is OP (through it kind of is I guess), but not realising the long term results of it being a thing to your civ's culture until after I introduced it.
But on that note, I wonder if this will enhance our spirit of Fatherhood at all?
Since we are known for having kitten daughters, and all of our strongest warriors and be wisest elders will be catgirls....
Not unless they are directly descended from your family line by either blood or adoption.
- Location
- United States
I do wonder how this will affect our nascent pantheon, at least in the sense as to what people worship us for.
With her spreading around the Gift of the Mighty Body, Seryn will likely be prayed to for strength, in general or in war, and for wisdom, since the Elders will all have been blessed by her.
Evantine is setting himself up to be a crafter god, so people will likely pray to him for the proper creation of tools and such, and considering his civilization aspect he might end up becoming the patron of pioneers?
Bronwyn has set herself up as the Spirit of Love, so she will likely be prayed to in terms of finding and achieving love, and considering how many kids she has she might also become associated with childbearing?
We actually have pretty focused traits, so we will likely be prayed to for good and decisive decisions, wise leadership, and success as a father.
This is all just aimless speculation on my part though, so I could be completely off.
Metrux
Gentle Demon Lord
- Location
- Brasil
I do wonder how this will affect our nascent pantheon, at least in the sense as to what people worship us for.
With her spreading around the Gift of the Mighty Body, Seryn will likely be prayed to for strength, in general or in war, and for wisdom, since the Elders will all have been blessed by her.
Evantine is setting himself up to be a crafter god, so people will likely pray to him for the proper creation of tools and such, and considering his civilization aspect he might end up becoming the patron of pioneers?
Bronwyn has set herself up as the Spirit of Love, so she will likely be prayed to in terms of finding and achieving love, and considering how many kids she has she might also become associated with childbearing?
We actually have pretty focused traits, so we will likely be prayed to for good and decisive decisions, wise leadership, and success as a father.
This is all just aimless speculation on my part though, so I could be completely off.
Doesn't this contrast us to our daughter? The wise old man are technically hers, and people won't know that her good decisions came from us or learning from us... I think that, as we stand right now, people would only pray to us to be a good father... Of course, since we are the leader of the pantheon, probably we should be getting a little from what the others get, but we are trully the least of the pieces.
- Location
- United States
I wouldn't say we are the least.
Even if people begin to pray to her for wisdom, for surely if the Wise Elders come from her than she is wise as well, they will still know that it is us who taught her said wisdom.
Our big things right now are being the Father, and being the Chief. These are both pretty broad aspects, but they essentially boil down to: talk to this person if you have a problem that needs solving.
We are the one fathers go to when they must protect or provide for their family.
We are the ones the Chiefs go to when they seek guidance on what decision is Just.
It's a more subtle thing, but it is in no way lesser.
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
The wise old folk and other leaders would pray to Gwarlon for good leadership. He would also be revered as the overall leader of the spirits. Think of its as peasants and nobles. A peasant might be loyal to their local noble, but they would also be loyal to the king as the leader of their country. In the case of this quest, a mortal might worship their personal deity, but they would also worship Gwarlon as the guy in charge over all.
Also while Gwarlon's cult might be smaller in number, it will be one of the most powerful as all of the leaders from village chiefs to the heads of a household/family will pay tribute to him for good leadership and authority.
How the 'Gift of the Mighty Body' works
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
In a generic blessing, a spirit infuses the chosen follower with some energy that heals, strengthens, invigorates and just generally improves the receiver of the blessing's body and mind and it only lasts as long as the energy used in the blessing, which is usually a few months.
With the Gift of the Mighty Body, it is a permanent blessing which can only be performed by Seryn due to it being tied to her Aspects and body. The manner in which it is tied to her Aspects is odd because it only uses some of them. The first part, due to the critical success, it has her endurance-based Aspects such as Vigour which grant superhuman strength, endurance and agility and warfare-based Aspects such as Battle and War which improves fighting skill, strategy & tactics and morale. Effects from other Aspects which tie into the above effects such as improved morale/leadership from her Aspect of Order can be included in the Gift of the Mighty Body.
The second part, due to the critical failure, is a result of Seryn screwing up her Wildcat and Beauty Aspects as she accidentally used them when she didn't want to use them for her warrior-blessing. The unintended result is purely physically with no supernatural buffs and takes the form of the receiver of the Gift of the Mighty Body their body transformed into the body Seryn when she created into blessing. Because of this, they get the cat features (eyes, fangs, tail and ears) and the beauty that Seryn's body had, but no supernatural abilities such as being able to command wildcats or being to cosmetically change their appearance. For the record, that means a very curvy, but muscular girl with white hair, blue eyes, cat ears, cat tail, cat eyes and fangs with above average height along with no imperfects anywhere.
It should be noted that this is different to someone who has been Chosen as a priestess of Seryn like Aeryn. Using Aeryn as an example, she has been imbued with the relevant Aspects of Seryn so she has lesser version of them rather than just some of the effects. For example, Aeryn gets cat ears and eyes from Seryn's Aspect of the Wildcat and beauty from Seryn's Aspect of Beauty, but she also gets stuff like the ability to command wildcats and her clothing shifting to automatically fit her perfectly and look good on her. She also has a direct connection to Seryn to call upon the Mighty One along with a allotment of power that recharges of time that lets her do spirit stuff and can call upon more of Seryn's power if Seryn deems fit.
With the Gift of the Mighty Body, it is a permanent blessing which can only be performed by Seryn due to it being tied to her Aspects and body. The manner in which it is tied to her Aspects is odd because it only uses some of them. The first part, due to the critical success, it has her endurance-based Aspects such as Vigour which grant superhuman strength, endurance and agility and warfare-based Aspects such as Battle and War which improves fighting skill, strategy & tactics and morale. Effects from other Aspects which tie into the above effects such as improved morale/leadership from her Aspect of Order can be included in the Gift of the Mighty Body.
The second part, due to the critical failure, is a result of Seryn screwing up her Wildcat and Beauty Aspects as she accidentally used them when she didn't want to use them for her warrior-blessing. The unintended result is purely physically with no supernatural buffs and takes the form of the receiver of the Gift of the Mighty Body their body transformed into the body Seryn when she created into blessing. Because of this, they get the cat features (eyes, fangs, tail and ears) and the beauty that Seryn's body had, but no supernatural abilities such as being able to command wildcats or being to cosmetically change their appearance. For the record, that means a very curvy, but muscular girl with white hair, blue eyes, cat ears, cat tail, cat eyes and fangs with above average height along with no imperfects anywhere.
It should be noted that this is different to someone who has been Chosen as a priestess of Seryn like Aeryn. Using Aeryn as an example, she has been imbued with the relevant Aspects of Seryn so she has lesser version of them rather than just some of the effects. For example, Aeryn gets cat ears and eyes from Seryn's Aspect of the Wildcat and beauty from Seryn's Aspect of Beauty, but she also gets stuff like the ability to command wildcats and her clothing shifting to automatically fit her perfectly and look good on her. She also has a direct connection to Seryn to call upon the Mighty One along with a allotment of power that recharges of time that lets her do spirit stuff and can call upon more of Seryn's power if Seryn deems fit.
Cycle 7 - Aeryn
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
While she still retains her brown hair and eyes, Aeryn's body has been influenced by Seryn's stronger aspects. A strong muscular body, but intertwined with great beauty including cat ears and eyes, but no fangs or tail.
Aeryn stands alone in the sunlight of the rising sun. An earlier riser, the girl of one great cycle and two cycles enjoys basking in the glory of the rising sun.
She has a nice spot overlooking Bedynn, the village that she has been granted to rule in the name of the Mighty One. A tall tree, there is a nice branch for perching on that grants a decent view of the village below. And the best part is that Aeryn can only reach with the strength and agility gifted to her by Seryn's blessing.
So she gets some alone time at the start of day, the brunette not having to worried about being interrupted as long as she is up here.
Aeryn misses her old home, the mountain village of Avawyr. She lived there under the protection of the Great One and the Beautiful One in the shaped rock cave of her family. In Avawyr, most people worshipped the Great One, the Noble One and the Beautiful One and Aeryn was one of them.
But here? Everybody worships Seryn with a few worshipping Bronwyn for the Beautiful One was there when the Crow-Spirit was slain and the Mighty One claimed the village as her own and Gwarlon as the Great One has made the effort to visit Bedynn a few times. It also helps that those two are Seryn's parents and the Mighty One makes it clear that she loves and adores her parents. And when it comes to Evatine, the worship of the Noble One is barely anything in the village as the Bedynn view him as a foreign spirit and any worship of the Noble One in Bedynn is due to the Mighty One importing it under her reign.
It is not just matters of faith and worship that make Bedynn homesick, but the terrain itself. For all of her childhood, Aeryn lived in the rocky mountains of Avawyr, surrounded by rock and stone with only some trees and plants.
Now? There are trees everywhere with no high natural peaks of stone. Animals live everywhere and almost everywhere you step, there is some kind of plant life. It kind of creeps her out.
Aeryn also misses her family as when she came to Bedynn at the request of her friend, her parents and sisters stayed home at Avawyr. The brunette girl is unsure about whether or not she actually wants her family with her as a while she does miss them, Aeryn is embarrassed about them seeing how she has changed after her blessing.
Her blessing. Aeryn still has mixed feelings about it. She enjoys the super strength, her lack of tiredness, her agility and her ability to heal and reinvigorate herself. But at the same time...
Aeryn's hands go to the top of her head, where the cat ears rest on top of her head. Oh how having those things on the top of her head makes Aeryn feel so silly. Normal people do not have those and Aeryn just cannot seem to forget about their presence.
Perhaps it will just take her time to get used to them.
Deciding that she ought to get back to leading Bedynn now that the sun is rising, Aeryn shifts so she is sitting upright, her feet dangling in the air.
Looking down at the ground, Aeryn is about to jump only to stop as she gets reminder that if she looks directly down, she cannot no longer see her feet or ground under them.
Instead, she has two large mounds of flesh blocking her view. Another part of her blessing, Aeryn is sure that Seryn meant well as the Mighty One certainly takes great pleasure and pride in her own full figure, but Aeryn just cannot wrap her mind around having just generous curves on her chest after growing up a flat chest like both of her sisters and mother.
And unlike her the ever-presence of her cat ears, Aeryn often forgets about the weights on her chest as her body is sturdy enough that her large chest is not heavy at all. Despite each one being the size of her head.
Letting out a sigh, Aeryn places her hands on her chest as she breaths in and out, watching them rise and fall. Her face twitches as Aeryn always finds it amusing to watch and feel her blessed breasts move, the massive mounds of flesh that she should not have and yet has been gifted with anyway.
Oh how surreal they are to her mind.
The only downside to her chest, the rest of her figure and her body in general is the attention that it draws. She would cover up her body in loose clothing to conceal her shapely figure, but part of her blessing is that everything she wears make her look beautiful.
And since Seryn believes that true beauty is a strong body with a full set of curves with clothing that shows off that body, everything that Aeryn will shift into something that leaves fits her snugly. The wool tunic that is too big for her and should conceal her body from view? Shrinks upon Aeryn putting it on so that it shows off her body. The furs that Aeryn put on this morning? Gone from a loose mess of unwanted furs into an outfit which hugs her body closely and is free of the many imperfects that it once had.
As a result of her beauty, both the men and the women of Bedynn stare her, the former desiring to fornicate with her while the latter are envious of her blessed body.
But it does not go beyond that as Aeryn is the chosen of the Mighty One and her good looks are literally divine beauty. Any attempts to force themselves upon Aeryn would be met with the anger of the Mighty One, the warrior cat-spirit which slew both Cynfanor and Morcaviana. And even if Seryn would ignore them, Aeryn's blessing means that she is more than powerful enough to crush any man or group of men who would try to force themselves upon her.
No man does for all of them fear Aeryn and the spirit that she represents. So they stare at her from afar and try to avoid directly interacting with her or getting her attention.
Aeryn does not mind that too much. The Bedynnish have been conquered twice now and had their village pillaged on two separate occasions. And even now as she rebuilds the village, Seryn barely focuses on Bedynn and leaves the forest village to Aeryn whilst she converts Cynfanor's seat of power into her own.
It makes sense that they are wary of Aeryn as she represents a conquering outsider who while is powerful enough that she is to be feared and her might respected, the same outsider has abandoned them in favour of others and they do not love a spirit who has neglected them.
So they get on with their lives and do as Aeryn or Seryn demands of them, but the Bedynnish to do welcome Aeryn or Seryn and would happy to get rid of them if they could.
It is not all bad. For while she is alone and isolated in Bedynn with a new body, her new position and blessing do have their perks.
Being able to climb trees with each, run faster than most everything, being near impossible to tire herself and lift boulders singlehandedly is more than worth having to adjust to a new body. And even then, the only thing that Aeryn does not like about her new body is that bad either. She just needs a little more time to adjust to her new body and get used to her new appearance.
And then there is the authority that she gets to wield as the Chosen of the Mighty One. Even if they do not wish to associate with an outsider like her, the Bedynnish do respect her word and the authority that Seryn has granted her.
While she does not abuse, Aeryn does like to enjoy the perks of it every now again, such as getting the first choice of foods and picking which activities she gets to go on.
Plus the connection to Seryn via her blessing means that Aeryn has a direct connection to the powerful spirit and can always call upon her best friend.
Knowing that you can call upon a much more powerful being is always comforting as being able to contact your only friend in a foreign land.
Having had enough musing about her life, Aeryn slips off the branch and lets herself fall to the ground below. She lands with a heavy thud, easily weathering the impact that would kill a normal mortal.
She had enough time to herself and with the sun rising, she ought to get back to fulfilling her duties. Plenty of damage from the pillaging by the Cynfanor loyalists still needs repairing and in the absence of Seryn, the responsibility of directing the repair efforts falls to her, Aeryn, Chosen of the Mighty One.
And once this is over, Aeryn see if she can get her family to come and visit her.
Aeryn stands alone in the sunlight of the rising sun. An earlier riser, the girl of one great cycle and two cycles enjoys basking in the glory of the rising sun.
She has a nice spot overlooking Bedynn, the village that she has been granted to rule in the name of the Mighty One. A tall tree, there is a nice branch for perching on that grants a decent view of the village below. And the best part is that Aeryn can only reach with the strength and agility gifted to her by Seryn's blessing.
So she gets some alone time at the start of day, the brunette not having to worried about being interrupted as long as she is up here.
Aeryn misses her old home, the mountain village of Avawyr. She lived there under the protection of the Great One and the Beautiful One in the shaped rock cave of her family. In Avawyr, most people worshipped the Great One, the Noble One and the Beautiful One and Aeryn was one of them.
But here? Everybody worships Seryn with a few worshipping Bronwyn for the Beautiful One was there when the Crow-Spirit was slain and the Mighty One claimed the village as her own and Gwarlon as the Great One has made the effort to visit Bedynn a few times. It also helps that those two are Seryn's parents and the Mighty One makes it clear that she loves and adores her parents. And when it comes to Evatine, the worship of the Noble One is barely anything in the village as the Bedynn view him as a foreign spirit and any worship of the Noble One in Bedynn is due to the Mighty One importing it under her reign.
It is not just matters of faith and worship that make Bedynn homesick, but the terrain itself. For all of her childhood, Aeryn lived in the rocky mountains of Avawyr, surrounded by rock and stone with only some trees and plants.
Now? There are trees everywhere with no high natural peaks of stone. Animals live everywhere and almost everywhere you step, there is some kind of plant life. It kind of creeps her out.
Aeryn also misses her family as when she came to Bedynn at the request of her friend, her parents and sisters stayed home at Avawyr. The brunette girl is unsure about whether or not she actually wants her family with her as a while she does miss them, Aeryn is embarrassed about them seeing how she has changed after her blessing.
Her blessing. Aeryn still has mixed feelings about it. She enjoys the super strength, her lack of tiredness, her agility and her ability to heal and reinvigorate herself. But at the same time...
Aeryn's hands go to the top of her head, where the cat ears rest on top of her head. Oh how having those things on the top of her head makes Aeryn feel so silly. Normal people do not have those and Aeryn just cannot seem to forget about their presence.
Perhaps it will just take her time to get used to them.
Deciding that she ought to get back to leading Bedynn now that the sun is rising, Aeryn shifts so she is sitting upright, her feet dangling in the air.
Looking down at the ground, Aeryn is about to jump only to stop as she gets reminder that if she looks directly down, she cannot no longer see her feet or ground under them.
Instead, she has two large mounds of flesh blocking her view. Another part of her blessing, Aeryn is sure that Seryn meant well as the Mighty One certainly takes great pleasure and pride in her own full figure, but Aeryn just cannot wrap her mind around having just generous curves on her chest after growing up a flat chest like both of her sisters and mother.
And unlike her the ever-presence of her cat ears, Aeryn often forgets about the weights on her chest as her body is sturdy enough that her large chest is not heavy at all. Despite each one being the size of her head.
Letting out a sigh, Aeryn places her hands on her chest as she breaths in and out, watching them rise and fall. Her face twitches as Aeryn always finds it amusing to watch and feel her blessed breasts move, the massive mounds of flesh that she should not have and yet has been gifted with anyway.
Oh how surreal they are to her mind.
The only downside to her chest, the rest of her figure and her body in general is the attention that it draws. She would cover up her body in loose clothing to conceal her shapely figure, but part of her blessing is that everything she wears make her look beautiful.
And since Seryn believes that true beauty is a strong body with a full set of curves with clothing that shows off that body, everything that Aeryn will shift into something that leaves fits her snugly. The wool tunic that is too big for her and should conceal her body from view? Shrinks upon Aeryn putting it on so that it shows off her body. The furs that Aeryn put on this morning? Gone from a loose mess of unwanted furs into an outfit which hugs her body closely and is free of the many imperfects that it once had.
As a result of her beauty, both the men and the women of Bedynn stare her, the former desiring to fornicate with her while the latter are envious of her blessed body.
But it does not go beyond that as Aeryn is the chosen of the Mighty One and her good looks are literally divine beauty. Any attempts to force themselves upon Aeryn would be met with the anger of the Mighty One, the warrior cat-spirit which slew both Cynfanor and Morcaviana. And even if Seryn would ignore them, Aeryn's blessing means that she is more than powerful enough to crush any man or group of men who would try to force themselves upon her.
No man does for all of them fear Aeryn and the spirit that she represents. So they stare at her from afar and try to avoid directly interacting with her or getting her attention.
Aeryn does not mind that too much. The Bedynnish have been conquered twice now and had their village pillaged on two separate occasions. And even now as she rebuilds the village, Seryn barely focuses on Bedynn and leaves the forest village to Aeryn whilst she converts Cynfanor's seat of power into her own.
It makes sense that they are wary of Aeryn as she represents a conquering outsider who while is powerful enough that she is to be feared and her might respected, the same outsider has abandoned them in favour of others and they do not love a spirit who has neglected them.
So they get on with their lives and do as Aeryn or Seryn demands of them, but the Bedynnish to do welcome Aeryn or Seryn and would happy to get rid of them if they could.
It is not all bad. For while she is alone and isolated in Bedynn with a new body, her new position and blessing do have their perks.
Being able to climb trees with each, run faster than most everything, being near impossible to tire herself and lift boulders singlehandedly is more than worth having to adjust to a new body. And even then, the only thing that Aeryn does not like about her new body is that bad either. She just needs a little more time to adjust to her new body and get used to her new appearance.
And then there is the authority that she gets to wield as the Chosen of the Mighty One. Even if they do not wish to associate with an outsider like her, the Bedynnish do respect her word and the authority that Seryn has granted her.
While she does not abuse, Aeryn does like to enjoy the perks of it every now again, such as getting the first choice of foods and picking which activities she gets to go on.
Plus the connection to Seryn via her blessing means that Aeryn has a direct connection to the powerful spirit and can always call upon her best friend.
Knowing that you can call upon a much more powerful being is always comforting as being able to contact your only friend in a foreign land.
Having had enough musing about her life, Aeryn slips off the branch and lets herself fall to the ground below. She lands with a heavy thud, easily weathering the impact that would kill a normal mortal.
She had enough time to herself and with the sun rising, she ought to get back to fulfilling her duties. Plenty of damage from the pillaging by the Cynfanor loyalists still needs repairing and in the absence of Seryn, the responsibility of directing the repair efforts falls to her, Aeryn, Chosen of the Mighty One.
And once this is over, Aeryn see if she can get her family to come and visit her.
- Location
- United States
So there's some trouble in paradise it seems.
Seryn is focusing much more on one village over the other, leaving the administration of Bedwyn to her Chosen instead.
Said Chosen is only 12 (if great cycle = 10 yrs and cycle = 1yr), and probably doesn't know much about administration still.
Plus, with the fact that Seryn essentially has the village under foreign occupation, in that she left a foreigner in charge without any input from the conquered populace, means that there will likely be quite a bit of tension stewing underneath the surface for awhile.
Overall, a really nice update, and I'm glad to see this updating more consistently now.
Edit: grand cycle = 12 cycles, so she is actually 14 as of this update, and 16 as of the last turn.
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- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Please note the cycle it took place in and compared to the turns.
Also:
1 Cycle = 1 Growth Season, 1 Sun Season, 1 Harvest Season, 1 Cold Season
1 Great Cycle = 12 Cycles
1 Greater Cycle = 20 Cycles
1 Grand Cycle = 5 Greater Cycles
As for the updates, I'm going to focusing on this quest for a bit.
Metrux
Gentle Demon Lord
- Location
- Brasil
I meant that we are the cornerstone, but we are not seen as that, at least not by the major population. Right now this is not a problem, people know us or have heard of us, and everyone respects our leadership. But through the generations, if this doesn't change? People will start forgetting about us. We don't interact as much as our wife, we don't give as much gifts as our friend, we don't have as much power as our daughter, actually, besides leading the group of spirits, we have nothing that is trully ours. I had this feeling for a while now, but we would've been much better getting our earth aspect earlier, finishing things faster, granting "magedom" that spread our power and utility, mabye even advancing faster to another aspect, since we would've been more seen and could've both helped more in the problems since then, and thus got more people to trully favor us.
We are not in a bad position, far from it, I just regret that we gave up on so, so much for this leadership, and it isn't paying off...
- Location
- United States
I'm not sure if you really understand how low level spirit play works?
Seryn is kind of the exception, having eaten a shit ton of spirits as well as having gotten a crit on her blessings.
Even if we had gotten the Aspect of Earth, we wouldn't be just giving people "magedom" or whatever.
Things are going slow because we mostly spend our time keeping everything together, as befits a Chief and a Father. We have specced into solving social situations, instead of the Brute force of Seryn or the Tool making skill of our brother.
I would say that it is 100% paying off, considering that we are the head of the most powerful pantheon in the area and are worshiped by the Chiefs of every village.
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
People won't start forgetting about you. Gwarlon is too important. And even if they did, your family would do something about it. You interact with your family, it has been rolled into the background, but is still accounted for. As for things being truly yours? So what? You got strong family ties and your family is very powerful with you at the head of it.
I'm not sure what you are looking for because you seem to be interpreting things in a wrong manner. Not everything is about the personal power of the individual.
Out of curiosity, do you know what soft power is?
Metrux
Gentle Demon Lord
- Location
- Brasil
But... Our wife is the one dealing with most socials. We onl get involved in the big ones. The "magedom" I called like that because I don't know how to call it, would be the same as our friend is doing with metal, and I see no problem with going slow, just that we seem to not be doing much compared to any other spirit on our pantheon. It's hard for me to see a leader as a true leader if he isn't furthering the cause in someway, this is what we have here at Brasil, that makes lots and lots of problems, our politicians don't give a shit and don't help anyone, then comes one or other that tries to make good and he simply is not able to do anything. Here? I see us as a leader who barely does anything. Even with the problems we did help or did solve, our other spirits were already dealing and would've dealth with it, as far as we can see. It doesn't pay off because we could do so much more by staying pseudo leader instead of getting the aspect for this at this time, it would've been alot better at a later stage.
I never meant it to be a personal power, just as a matter of what we can do. Soft power is something very well described in the book The Name of the Wind, actually on the second one, that I don't know the name in english (O Temor do Sábio in portuguese), and it has a higher cap and higher functionality... After you get to the hard power limits. Be honest now: if we had triple the manpower that Cynfanor had, but he won over our group, would we have won the battle? As spirits our hard power is already way higher and more functional than a mortal, besides our cap is leagues above, we aren't even close to the high tier, much less to our limits, and already even Gwarlon can defeat a group of strong and trained men. Our soft power will be much more usefull later on, but this is not now, and growth rate is also dependent on limited advantages: if you don't get an advantage now, you don't grow so much soon, which will make you grow even less in proportion later on. We got lucky, we are in a good place, and there is not much that can give us problems now, but we got barely any advantage from our new aspect, while we could've finished both the path and the wall, while experimenting with making "priests" with our aspects, and helped more in the battle between the sister factions, hells, with the right training we could become faster by using the earth aspect and thus travel faster.
I never said what we have is bad, just that a +1 is not the same as a +5, and each time I see it again it makes me wince, because as time passes without us growing this diference grows even more... And yes, later on the Chief Aspect will grow to be our biggest asset, no doubt about it, but nothing would've stopped us from getting it now, or even later, when it shows more use, and getting first the one who would've helped more at the time.
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Gwarlon what has done and does:
-Built the Passage to Ava Cove.
-Deal with Seryn's misbehaviour.
-Heals anyone who comes to him of illness and injuries.
-Saved Bedygan from extinction at the hands of shadow monsters and aid them much welcomed aid.
-Improves the harvest each year so that the population of Avawyr gets fed.
-Protects Avawyr from any threats.
-Is currently building a stone wall to protect Avawyr from any attacks.
Yes because Cynfanor would have been overwhelmed by sheer weight of numbers due to how disorganised the Bedywnish defence was and would have been exhausted by defending the Avawyrish-Evalonish spirits and that's assuming that no one goes for the easy weak spot of his shrine like Seryn canonically did.
Except the hard power of Seryn and her followers and Evatine and his followers are under the control of Gwarlon's soft power. Gwarlon isn't a spirit who has to share a single village under this control with another spirit. He is a spirit with four villages, one of which he shares direct control over, three spirits, two high priests, a couple dozen metal mages, a few hundred magical supersoldiers and five demi-spirits answering to him. As for your Aspect of the Chief, it is definitely useful for you. While I don't share the dice rolls and intend to keep it that way, your Aspect of the Chief leadership modifiers have turns at least a couple dozen near failures into near successes and is one of the reason that you got the passage to Ava Cove done so quickly. It isn't useless. It might be less flashy than other Aspects, but it most certainly useful.
Edit: Maybe it is a case of me looking at Gwarlon's power more broadly than you because I seem to be seeing a guy with four villages and three spirits answering to him while you seem to be seeing a guy who only has a single village.
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Metrux
Gentle Demon Lord
- Location
- Brasil
About the list: what of it wouldn't have worked better with earth instead of chief?
About the vision: I kinda agree, but not on what each one sees. It's probably because we have difering visions, but we never see how leadership happens in the system, and from what's narrated it's not our four villages, but one village that answers to us, and to a lesser degree our family (wife included), one who answers to a friend, though this friend answers to us, and two recently conquered by war villages under the control of our daughter, that answers to us. From what is shown, we never see the village as ours, we couldn't send a letter and have every single soldier in Bedynn come to our call. We would instead send a letter to our daughter and have her decide if she would send troops, and how many, besides when. Yes, she loves us and respect us enough that she probably would do just as asked, but this is not our soft power, it is an indirect power through her. Even in our own village there are people who would answer first to our wife than to us. Like I said before, this is not a bad thing in itself, but in contrast it doesn't seem to be that much.
So, yeah, I agree that it's probably a diference in vision, but not because I don't see the villages as part of our forces, more because they aren't shown as part of our forces. The other spirits are as much ours as someone can be another's (a thing to discuss another time), they will come if we call, no doubt. but the forces that answer to them, not really.
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Too many variables to tell at this point as things would have happened rather differently.