Last i checked.
amy: 22
robotnik: 17
giselle: 7

Appreciated...may I ask everyone's logic?

[x] A woman? No, a robot version of one clearly. Were she standing she would easily be as tall as he was, her black and silver clothing along with her visor damaged in whatever explosion she suffered. Her body was in shambles, her upper body along with her legs completely intact, but the rest was in shambles. The amount of damage she received was… significant to to say the least. How…
 
Please do tell me any other badniks you guys wanna make and what bonuses you think they should give. I have fun making them.

Also feel free to tell me if you think any of the current ones are too strong, too weak, or need other bonuses.

Say does Cluker need to be built separability?

While they are badniks they are a fixed batteries so they can't be deployed in the field.

Egg Pawns probably going to be our main ally when using badniks to do something and going in adventures since they first unit don't count as Power Values

Also crabmeats should be in the available list as well being one of the oldest badniks in service alongside the motobugs and buzz bombers, since they shoot rockets they probably would serve as long range units and be largely cheap as well.

Also choppers are another classic badnik that are more useful in maritime warfare, being fish and all, and probably has a bonus in ambush since in all the games they try to ambush Sonic when crossing a bridge.

Also I think Swat Bots should be more expensive like 30 Metal. In Dark Chronicles they are big and have heavy armor and a self-repair function as well, if anything they should have two hps and Eggrobos should be more cheap and only have one hp since they don't exactly have the looks that can last that long if hit directly but they compensate they lack of armor with jet packs on they person that provide a bonus in evasion and can quickly have acquire the high ground in figths.

Edit: speaking of votes 1 hour left to finish since it's a 24 hours vote.
 
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Anway, the Empire's tech is wholly behind Eggman's by a wide margin even they wonder weapons are not much of a threat at the end of day,
Yeah they're kinda around ww2 tech really.
the only thing I see been a problem will be the Valkyrias and that's pretty much it.
And i doubt the empire has them in enough numbers to stop us.
Though their was a plane at the end of the first game
It was mostly the hero faction though and a Darcsen so I doubt the Empire would use it.
I doubt they can scale to Eggman's level quickly enough to matter.
Let's hope they don't find any ships of the Egg Fleet that either crashed or is in waiting.
On one hand I feel iffy about using the Valks...on the other Eggman would almost certainly treat them better.
Yeah Eggman hates everyone equally. :D

Probably the Darcsens? It shoudln't be too hard to gain their loyalty considering how people usually treat them, and they definitely have the chops to work with the Doctor.
So the Calamity Ravens from Valkyria Chronicles 3.
Any other characters in mind?
The surpass us in Tatics and Logisics as well likely.
Tactics yes, logistics not sure on that especially once Eggman has a base ready.

Speaking of artifacts, should we look for the Phantom Ruby?
 
Hope i'm doing this right. Time to close the voting period! Might seem like Rusty Rose will be your starting hero unit! Yay!

Please wait for us as we prepare turn 1 so we can get this show started!
Scheduled vote count started by Kingster on Nov 11, 2024 at 10:15 AM, finished with 145 posts and 47 votes.
 
Yeah they're kinda around ww2 tech really.

And i doubt the empire has them in enough numbers to stop us.

It was mostly the hero faction though and a Darcsen so I doubt the Empire would use it.

Let's hope they don't find any ships of the Egg Fleet that either crashed or is in waiting.

Yeah Eggman hates everyone equally. :D


So the Calamity Ravens from Valkyria Chronicles 3.
Any other characters in mind?

Tactics yes, logistics not sure on that especially once Eggman has a base ready.

Speaking of artifacts, should we look for the Phantom Ruby?

In order:

It is possible to artificaly create Valkur, Max used it himself at the end of the first game so we do need to look out for that.

Arguable. Maxamillion is many things but a fool is not one of them.

...Okay that's a valid concern, though they'd have to figure out how to use it but even then...we should move to infiltrate and sabatoge as quickly as we can.

Ironic how that's an improvement...and also rather depressing that he's legitamately a better option for them.

We can probably wrangle the Federation crew as well considering how...ruthless they are. Gallia...is bound to be more difficult but Eggman would be an improvement over the nobility and general army. X-0 on basic principle, but also probably the valuable thing we could get from them... We just have to figure out how to flip them.


...Phantom Ruby means Infinite, and I'm not sure we want to press that button.


Hope i'm doing this right. Time to close the voting period! Might seem like Rusty Rose will be your starting hero unit! Yay!

Please wait for us as we prepare turn 1 so we can get this show started!

Everything seems to be in order.

Not sure about Rose but what can you do?
 
Where is Eggman on this map? It's kind of important to know whether or not we're appearing in enemy territory.

But here's what I got--

Black Arms- Not our problem right now. Leave them to Zavoc.

Zavoc- Leave him alone until we have our 'Silver bullet' or a way to take our army back.

Restoration- We should be able to negoiate a cease-fire considering the situation. Should give us some information on Sonic as well.

Yellow- Need to figure out who they are, but I think it might be Stella Glow or Snivley like suggested, and think we might be able to co-opt them outright.

Eggman doesn't have any territory as he only has one single base and starling and Rusty Rose currently, could try to pin point the exact location of the base i suppose.

Valkria aside the main things we'd need to worry about there are those massive Supertanks...and I'm betting on Eggman if it comes to a Superweapon fight.
Don't forget the Valkof, unless that's the one you meant.

valkyria.fandom.com

Valkof

Possession of the Valkof is Maximilian's ultimate goal in the original Valkyria Chronicles game. Said to be the ultimate weapon, he believes that whoever wields it will control Europa. Destroying the Valkof is the objective of Chapter 18: Shadow of the Valkyrur mission 18-A: "Marmota's End." By...

Also Rusty Rose has been added to your hero units!
 
Arguable. Maxamillion is many things but a fool is not one of them.
Max yes, the rest of the Empire yeah good luck with that.
..Okay that's a valid concern, though they'd have to figure out how to use it
Yeah they'll definitely be busy studying all the new technologies.
.we should move to infiltrate and sabatoge as quickly as we can.
Are any of our badniks good at stealth? Cause we'll probably need to send Eggman himself in a egg mobile to do another raid.
We can probably wrangle the Federation crew as well considering how...ruthless they are.
Do we really want them though and what can they offer us?
Especially the General..
...Phantom Ruby means Infinite, and I'm not sure we want to press that button.
Fair enough, let's just hope no one else finds it first.
Don't forget the Valkof, unless that's the one you meant.
Well it's definitely strong on the ground, but it doesn't appear to have much defenses for air or underground attacks.
 
Well, lets hope Metal doesn't get any funny ideas once we repair him.

And make sure that he is still on top of the pecking order when it comes to our troops and that we found Rusty laying in there.

Besides we technically tried to replace him a lot of times and it never panned out, like Metal was the og prototype for the line of sonic doppels and after his defeat on little planet, well kinda every single one of them did worse.

Silver Sonic was a dissapointment, Robot Sonic got beaten on like 5 second if we go the funny route for Sonic 2, Mecha was the only one who really put up a fight and even then the only worthwhile thing in Eggman eyes from that one was the Super system meant to channel the Master Emerald energy as he failed not once, but twice, we never got to use mecha mk2.

On the other hand lets hope some of our alternates aren't running around either, that could bite us in the ass with the obey eggman trait.

Eggman Nega may also be lurking around.
 
On the other hand lets hope some of our alternates aren't running around either, that could bite us in the ass with the obey eggman trait.
Oh the Adventures or Snapcube version of Eggman would definitely be a embarrassment for us..

And i just remembered of a certain cannon that can help destroy the Black Arms and perhaps a few other dangerous enemies, we just need to either find or make a rocket.
 
Thinking about some of the stuff we have at our dissposition.

Wonder if we could booby trap fake emeralds.

Like it has been said on canon a lot of times they are almost undisstingishable from the real deal for those that even know what to look for.

Hell we can use them againts machinery kings to sabotage their own stuff.

After all they don't know how many emeralds are out there unless someone actually tells them.
 
Egg Pawns: The general foot solider of the Eggman Empire that counts more on their number than their ability but are surprisingly durable. Come equipped with Egg Guns and Egg Spears.

Btw Egg Paws should also be equipped with Egg Bazookas as well.

Ultimately Egg Pawns are very versatile units they have equipment against ranger and melee fights plus against armored units.

Another idea for badniks could the foremans, a team of four badniks that overseer Eggman's factories and that can comine into a giant robot in case of the threat.

They only appear in Sonci Dream Team and in the Dream Realm Factory so I am not sure they would exist in the real world but it would be cool if Eggman taken this concept from his dreams and apply on reality. This badnik would be sort of a upgrade that boost the efficiency of Eggman factories since they aren't meant to be frontline units.
 
Should we see about recreating the E-Series badniks as well, maybe even get that one Metal from Adventure out of storage as well.
 
Rusty Rose

Power: 24 (She is by no means the most expertly designed, but this strange facsimile of that blasted Hedgehog's hanger on has quite the range of fighting capabilities.)

Heart: 7 (Rusty is exactly how I like my machines: Cold and emotionless. But still, she seems to have a little spark.)

Logistics: 6 (Rusty can do as she must unguided, but she flourishes under orders.)

Brain: 10 (Rusty has quite a bit of knowledge programmed within her, but is overall average at using it.)

Trickery: 8 (Rusty is well aware people can engage in trickery, but she appears to be no expert.)

Mystic: 0 (Rusty claims to have never engaged with mystical properties, and I have no particular reason to disbelieve her.)

Loyalty: 70

Traits:

OBEY EGGMAN: Due to her foolish creators, An Eggman is an Eggman to her. (Rusty cannot disobey or betray Eggman and gains +10 to defend against conventional attempts to convince her to do so.)

Limbs Akimbo: Rusty's most notable combat skill is her limbs' fascinating stretching capabilities. (+5 to Rolls to use her limbs to escape a situation where people don't expect her to have such mobility. Plus +5 to combat rolls.)

Hmm...Not particularly impressive for a Hero unit, but expecting someone on Eggman's level is unreasonable.

Having a solid beatstick is going to make our first moves a lot easier, especially since we can absolutely trust her.

Bit disappointed in the result but we'll deal with it. Eggman has overcome more with worse.

Eggman doesn't have any territory as he only has one single base and starling and Rusty Rose currently, could try to pin point the exact location of the base i suppose.


Don't forget the Valkof, unless that's the one you meant.

valkyria.fandom.com

Valkof

Possession of the Valkof is Maximilian's ultimate goal in the original Valkyria Chronicles game. Said to be the ultimate weapon, he believes that whoever wields it will control Europa. Destroying the Valkof is the objective of Chapter 18: Shadow of the Valkyrur mission 18-A: "Marmota's End." By...

That would be apprecied Kingster.

*Wince* Okay the Valkof might be a problem. It's very much a straegic weapon instead of a tactical one but if we let that go unopposed we'll have issues, and if it's protected by Valkur...Hrm.


Max yes, the rest of the Empire yeah good luck with that.

Yeah they'll definitely be busy studying all the new technologies.

Are any of our badniks good at stealth? Cause we'll probably need to send Eggman himself in a egg mobile to do another raid.

Do we really want them though and what can they offer us?

Especially the General..

Fair enough, let's just hope no one else finds it first.

Well it's definitely strong on the ground, but it doesn't appear to have much defenses for air or underground attacks.

...Fair. Still Max is leading the Empire so he'll probably wrangle them into something resembleing competence if we give him too much time.

Sabatoge. That actually should be one of first priorities minion wise. At least until we get a proper force up.

Feds- An actual military force we lack at the moment, good leadership, a set of landship with artifical Valkur attached.

Gallia- Several High-end Hero Units and Valkur who have a grudge against the Empire

X-0 - We'd have to wreck them first but Valkur. Not particularly loyal ones either, if we cut the head off we should be able to snag the whole bunch plus the relevant reasearch.

:mad: DAMON!!!! If the man wasn't so incompetent he'd probably get along with Eggman...actually we probably could recruit him if he's still alive. Whether or not we want to is another matter. Likely not.

Ah...right didn't consider someone else getting their hands on it. We probably should look into it then.


True the Valkof by itself is easy enough to work around but paired with an actual army or Valkur...

On the other hand lets hope some of our alternates aren't running around either, that could bite us in the ass with the obey eggman trait.

Eggman Nega may also be lurking around.

...Hrm. Would other Eggman's running around be a good thing or a bad thing?

And i just remembered of a certain cannon that can help destroy the Black Arms and perhaps a few other dangerous enemies, we just need to either find or make a rocket.
Thinking about some of the stuff we have at our dissposition.

Wonder if we could booby trap fake emeralds.

Like it has been said on canon a lot of times they are almost undisstingishable from the real deal for those that even know what to look for.

Hell we can use them againts machinery kings to sabotage their own stuff.

After all they don't know how many emeralds are out there unless someone actually tells them.
Should we see about recreating the E-Series badniks as well, maybe even get that one Metal from Adventure out of storage as well.

:D My my the good doctor has quite the bag of tricks.

I can't wait to show them to our unworthy enemies.
 
"I come to make an Announcement!!!"

Oh the Adventures or Snapcube version of Eggman would definitely be a embarrassment for us..

...yeah it looks like he MIGHT be around. Maybe not a big threat, maybe trapped on the Space Colony Arc as he wonders what the hell is happening planet side.

But then again, he IS an Eggman, and Eggmen are fiendishly intelligent, even if their wisdom scores vary wildly from adaption to adaption.
 
Having a solid beatstick is going to make our first moves a lot easier, especially since we can absolutely trust her.
And if we can repair Metal Sonic, we'll have two martial heroes instead of just Rose.
Still Max is leading the Empire so he'll probably wrangle them into something resembleing competence if we give him too much time.
Hopefully the nobles, generals and other members give him trouble for us.
Sabatoge. That actually should be one of first priorities minion wise. At least until we get a proper force up.
We'll probably need to create a new badnik that focuses on stealth.
Feds- An actual military force we lack at the moment, good leadership, a set of landship with artifical Valkur attached.
Are they even around though, as for the rest fair enough.
Gallia- Several High-end Hero Units and Valkur who have a grudge against the Empire
So they're probably a resistance movement right now, I can already see the Restoration helping them, although they'll definitely be surprised of the Wisps.
X-0 - We'd have to wreck them first but Valkur. Not particularly loyal ones either, if we cut the head off we should be able to snag the whole bunch plus the relevant reasearch.
Well at least Starline will have some interesting research to study.
Hell no, I don't want someone who uses poison gas on a combatant, although he'll definitely be sending all of his units to attack Eggman.
Ah...right didn't consider someone else getting their hands on it. We probably should look into it then.
Lord help us if Goldman (House of the Dead) gets his hands on it..
True the Valkof by itself is easy enough to work around but paired with an actual army or Valkur...
Selvaria would definitely be the most dangerous out of everyone in the Empire.
.Hrm. Would other Eggman's running around be a good thing or a bad thing?
As Eggman told Starline in the comics he doesn't share.
:D My my the good doctor has quite the bag of tricks.
Eggman has done a lot of stuff over the years, so it shouldn't be too surprising.

Although I'm curious if Merlina is really a villain here compared to the other factions.
 
Should we see about recreating the E-Series badniks as well, maybe even get that one Metal from Adventure out of storage as well.
Eh, kinda risky on the E-series, don't think Eggman ever knew of ganma escapades on the games, which means he never ironed out the bugs on the E-series coding that make them go rogue, like Omega is the prime case of why we don't want to make more E-series of super badniks.

...Hrm. Would other Eggman's running around be a good thing or a bad thing?
Pretty bad for us, we would probably get along for five minutes, before we start calling each other stupid and get into a fist fight, especially once we start conquering, cause they all want the same territory.

Like our Sonic X version is the only one we could probably get along in the long run.

Comics versions are deranged enough that they would become a liability sooner than later, without counting that Robo-Robotnik would be a disgrace in our eyes, like seriously dude, we have been doing this dance with Sonic for years and you break down after one specific defeat, pathetic.

Satam would betray us at first chance he gets and adventures and underground competency is questionable at best.

Boom comes from a comedy show, so I can give that one some leeway.
 
like Omega is the prime case of why we don't want to make more E-series of super badniks.
Fair enough, just wanted to see Beta make a comeback.
But then again, he IS an Eggman, and Eggmen are fiendishly intelligent, even if their wisdom scores vary wildly from adaption to adaption.
Let's hope that's the only fan version of Eggman, cause the Sonic for Hire Eggman would definitely be one that Eggman wants to bury to the center of the earth.
especially once we start conquering, cause they all want the same territory.
I wonder if the Classic version is around as well, at least he's used to teaming up with his future self.
 
Should we see about recreating the E-Series badniks as well, maybe even get that one Metal from Adventure out of storage as well.

There's the option to built the E-1000 on the available list of badniks. The streamlined version of the E-100s that are extra loyal to Eggman.

...Fair. Still Max is leading the Empire so he'll probably wrangle them into something resembleing competence if we give him too much time.

Sabatoge. That actually should be one of first priorities minion wise. At least until we get a proper force up.

Feds- An actual military force we lack at the moment, good leadership, a set of landship with artifical Valkur attached.

Gallia- Several High-end Hero Units and Valkur who have a grudge against the Empire

I think you are vastly overestimating how much Maximilian has on his disposal it's just the Imperial units that were in Gallia during the Shattering not the whole Empire. So Max has to run a occupation force with limited forces and no backup, no access to the Empire's industrial centers and R&D divisions, he has to rely everything on Gallia and he's going to have to find ways to placate the population enough to work with him. I imagine that Max will spend much of his earlier turns trying to establish a collaborationist government.

Sure he manage to crush Gallia's military but guerillas probably going ot be a problem for a while since Gallia employs Universal Conscription so even the most average citizen knows how to handle a gun.
 
I think you are vastly overestimating how much Maximilian has on his disposal it's just the Imperial units that were in Gallia during the Shattering not the whole Empire.
Well at least that means we can still get his Calamity Ravens to join our side.

I imagine that Max will spend much of his earlier turns trying to establish a collaborationist government.
And if that one general who hates Darcsen is still around except not a lot of people liking them.
Sure he manage to crush Gallia's military but guerillas probably going ot be a problem for a while since Gallia employs Universal Conscription so even the most average citizen knows how to handle a gun.
I can already see a omake of him trying to get everything in order, understand what just happened and freaking out of the Black Arms attack his territory.
 
Either way once we start invading neighbours, why don't we start with some flair for our personal mech.



Man I love the egg shogun design
 
Well at least that means we can still get his Calamity Ravens to join our side.

I pretty sure that's not going to happen, Eggman is pretty clear he wants to dominate everybody and it makes no sense for the Ravens to bend the knee to another tyrant, specially since they are serving the Empire to attain a independent nation and Eggman will not grant them that.

Do note however Max is surprisingly liberal and prgamatics since he don't give a fig if his forces are compose of woman, darcsen or former enemies only if they do they jobs well and loyal while hold atrocities in open disgust since he ordered Geld to be court-matialed and executed for his actions and can't stand sell outs. Max also hates the Empire and the Shattering would allow him to establish him a empire for himself and assume the mantle of emperor.

Edit: Maximilian is hardly a nice person but he ain't stupid nor unpopular, in the Villain Victorius files the Imperial troops under his command love him as a example.
 
And if we can repair Metal Sonic, we'll have two martial heroes instead of just Rose.

Hopefully the nobles, generals and other members give him trouble for us.


Hell no, I don't want someone who uses poison gas on a combatant, although he'll definitely be sending all of his units to attack Eggman.

Lord help us if Goldman (House of the Dead) gets his hands on it..

Selvaria would definitely be the most dangerous out of everyone in the Empire.

As Eggman told Starline in the comics he doesn't share.

Although I'm curious if Merlina is really a villain here compared to the other factions.

Rose and Metal should be able to handle anything short of a High End Hero unit...although we will want to give them a proper army.

We shall feast on the tears of our enemies.

If Damon is ever a threat to us we have messed up horribly.

Frankly if anyone gets their hands on that thing everyone is going to have a problem.

Arugable.

Only can be one huh?

...We can probably work with Merlina. Her main goal doesn't conflict with ours.

I think you are vastly overestimating how much Maximilian has on his disposal it's just the Imperial units that were in Gallia during the Shattering not the whole Empire. So Max has to run a occupation force with limited forces and no backup, no access to the Empire's industrial centers and R&D divisions, he has to rely everything on Gallia and he's going to have to find ways to placate the population enough to work with him. I imagine that Max will spend much of his earlier turns trying to establish a collaborationist government.

Sure he manage to crush Gallia's military but guerillas probably going ot be a problem for a while since Gallia employs Universal Conscription so even the most average citizen knows how to handle a gun.

Is that confirmed or an assumation? Still that does make things easier for us.

I pretty sure that's not going to happen, Eggman is pretty clear he wants to dominate everybody and it makes no sense for the Ravens to bend the knee to another tyrant, specially since they are serving the Empire to attain a independent nation and Eggman will not grant them that.

Do note however Max is surprisingly liberal and prgamatics since he don't give a fig if his forces are compose of woman, darcsen or former enemies only if they do they jobs well and loyal while hold atrocities in open disgust since he ordered Geld to be court-matialed and executed for his actions and can't stand sell outs. Max also hates the Empire and the Shattering would allow him to establish him a empire for himself and assume the mantle of emperor.

Edit: Maximilian is hardly a nice person but he ain't stupid nor unpopular, in the Villain Victorius files the Imperial troops under his command love him as a example.

Hrm...as expected of a fellow King. He's a bastard but he won't make it easy for us.

Though we'll have to verify this ourselves of course.
 
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