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Scrambled Eggs. A Sonic X Sega All Star Villains CK2 Quest

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TheSnekMan said:
No it's stupid cause imagine if someone steals TWO emeralds in the same place
I imagine the restoration or gun might have one
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Freak A Nature said:
Yeah, Im thinking a prisoner transfer to get another Hero unit (that doesnt have an attached sidequest) will do wonders.

In the mean time, maybe we can fish for info on all of Sonics friends
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Nope there's only one Eemrald in Green Hills, the QM confirm that.

The Restoration needs to know we are absolute serious with the ceasefire thus the Emerald.

Plus we would not need to fear they attacks and focus fully on Zavok and Whisper would either be force to back down or continue to harass us whiteout help.

catxfighter_3_1 said:
Question why do we want the global rival reports as well? A little bit curious about why
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Information plus it such a easy research may as well ask for the frequency and not need to waste a NA for it in the future. Also we can find out information about the other Egg Bosses in the world as well if we are lucky.

MrHobbit said:
So? If Cream tries to steal it just kill her. We stole it fair and square. We don't need to placate the Restoration. If they fight us, we can fight them.
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I am going to pretend you just not suggest killing a eight years old.

Cream has on her service Giselle someone that is important to fight one day the moon that's going to kill everybody, may as well give the Restoration the Chaos Emerald and they will use it to fix her robot maid.

Frankly it's not we are even use the blasted thing anyway.

It's only being one headache after the another and let them deal with Shadow.
 
Aron593 said:
Option is either Starline or Isara as they have the biggest brain stats outside of Sage and us.
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Probably Starline, cause I doubt Isara is good with biology.
Aron593 said:
On the other hand Isara would be hella funny for the adventure, especially if she steals a noise tank.
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Why would Isara kidnap the noise tanks?
MrHobbit said:
We haven't even fought with the Restoration in the quest yet. We're not in a precarious position.
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Cause Eggman knows IC that he'll be fighting against them to control the Green Hills.
 
Shadow-86 said:
Why would Isara kidnap the noise tanks?
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I though Goji was using literal tanks on his city, just saw it was a gang.

Otherwise.

Seems people are in agreement for the prisoner trade.

the deal with Chuck we could either ask them or wait for Rogue and offer her the deal

TBH it will depend, with a collab with gun we get eggman trickery + probably conquering trickery + any badniks and the like we sent +Towers trickery and their hero unit trickery.

For Rouge we will only have her trickery + whatever else we sent with her.

Emerald many divided opinions so we may as well put it off board at the moment.

Honestly the cure may as well be put off, we may as well do it ourselves coming turn and focus on our personal with Sage to get it.
 
Aron593 said:
I though Goji was using literal tanks on his city, just saw it was a gang.

Otherwise.

Seems people are in agreement for the prisoner trade.

the deal with Chuck we could either ask them or wait for Rogue and offer her the deal

TBH it will depend, with a collab with gun we get eggman trickery + probably conquering trickery + any badniks and the like we sent +Towers trickery and their hero unit trickery.

For Rouge we will only have her trickery + whatever else we sent with her.

Emerald many divided opinions so we may as well put it off board at the moment.

Honestly the cure may as well be put off, we may as well do it ourselves coming turn and focus on our personal with Sage to get it.
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Yeah, I'm not really comfortable giving up the emerald to be honest and I actually probably want to see if we can get Chuck out with rogues help. She is an expert after all she found us.
 
EclecticGamer said:
Again, if the Restoration tries to fight us, GUN WILL HELP THEM! MEANING ALL OUR EFFORTS TO NEGOTIATE A TRUCE WITH GUN WILL BE FOR NOTHING!
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That doesn't actually seem to be entirely true:

Kingster said:
maybe even push for a more "Agressive" peace with the Restoration if they weren't willing to complain…
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This interlude has already shown us that G.U.N. is divided on their opinion on the Restoration. Attacking us while helping G.U.N., even if it's solely for selfish reasons, will probably cause a much larger rift between them. In fact, some of G.U.N.'s members might even decide to use it as an opportunity to push for a harsher attitude towards the Restoration for "disrupting the peace" and causing a war with Eggman.
 
Shadow-86 said:
Cause Eggman knows IC that he'll be fighting against them to control the Green Hills.
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Also the Restoration will not let Eggman return to power.

Every time we send our armies against the Deadly Six we will have to watch our back against them, we can't fight expert guerrilla forces and protagonist tier characters whithout our Empire.

Plusthey coudl use it to help Gisele and she would get a Chaos Emerald, thus helping her power problem and help one day fight moon.

Aron593 said:
Honestly the cure may as well be put off, we may as well do it ourselves coming turn and focus on our personal with Sage to get it.
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Why?

Towers would help and cut the dice somewhat at least and Sage would make the action more easier to pass instead of that enormous dice that can fail.
 
TBH yeah at this point I am willing to offer Rouge the chuck deal for us helping her capture Shadow.

We secure at least a meeting with him and his research while Rouge sents him on his merry way to the restoration territory as GUN would probably not let him go there.

Rouge is many things, but a lapdog of GUN is not one of them.
 
Aron593 said:
TBH yeah at this point I am willing to offer Rouge the chuck deal for us helping her capture Shadow.

We secure at least a meeting with him and his research while Rouge sents him on his merry way to the restoration territory as GUN would probably not let him go there.

Rouge is many things, but a lapdog of GUN is not one of them.
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Are we sure we want to do this?

QMs warn us that dice is going to be hard to pass and the consequences of failure will not be... pretty.

Towers do have manpower that could be used to help the action and Rouge could also help the action to rescue Chuck. We could get GUN and Rouge help.

I am willing to table the Chaos Emerald at the moment and Rouge can even help the scientist to escape to the Restoration if necessary.
 
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TheSnekMan said:
I cannot understate how much of a fucking BAD HORRENDUS SUICIDAL IDEA THAT IS
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Personally I think it is bullshit to try to portray Cream as inevitably successfully breaking into Eggman's base and stealing the chaos emerald as a reason to hand it over to the Resistance. But you recall my points about how we are playing as Eggman trying to conquer the world?

Soberan 123 said:
I am going to pretend you just not suggest killing a eight years old.

Cream has on her service Giselle someone that is important to fight one day the moon that's going to kill everybody, may as well give the Restoration the Chaos Emerald and they will use it to fix her robot maid.

Frankly it's not we are even use the blasted thing anyway.

It's only being one headache after the another and let them deal with Shadow.
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Did you know that conquering stuff means people die? That even in the cleanest campaign waged, youth will die as well? But fundamentally that was a response to your claim that we need to hand over the Emerald because Cream will steal it. That was simply nonsense.

What headache? Like genuinely where is that coming from? How has the Chaos Emerald caused Eggman a headache? State it clearly. Don't talk about hypotheticals. And the idea that we're not going to use it is bullshit. Pause a moment and reflect. In what world is an Eggman quest not going to have an option to use chaos emeralds as power sources? You can't simultaneously argue that the Chaos Emerald is useless and actively harmful while simultaneously arguing that the loss it represents can be made up for by just stealing a different one.

There is no way in hell that the Restoration is going to last to the point that the Moon is a problem. Kingster said that the Restoration would believe that Eggman was serious about the ceasefire. Eggman reclaiming his major infrastructure is going to majorly alter the calculations.

EclecticGamer said:
True....but we could just say that it was probably someone on the Restoration's payroll taking the shot....A logical assumption...

Again, if the Restoration tries to fight us, GUN WILL HELP THEM! MEANING ALL OUR EFFORTS TO NEGOTIATE A TRUCE WITH GUN WILL BE FOR NOTHING!
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What efforts? GUN is the one who did the work. If GUN tries to help them we can crush GUN too.

Shadow-86 said:
Cause Eggman knows IC that he'll be fighting against them to control the Green Hills.
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...By giving them our Chaos Emerald? You see how these statements contradict each other right?
 
Soberan 123 said:
Are we sure we want to do this?

QMs warn us that dice is going to be hard to pass and the consequences of failure will not be... pretty.

Towers do have manpower that could be used to help the action and Rouge could also help the action to rescue Chuck. We could get GUN and Rouge help.
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I mean, we are sending our best trickery unit conquering storm, and the egg clan with her along with a Newton plus don't forget we have a pretty good tricky as well
 
Hey just had an idea for what we can get out of the agreement.

We clearly need to have GUN advertise our Mean Bean Coffee shop for that extra income! Hell have them help us set up multiple locations for even more income.

Just fill every street corner of GUN and The Restoration's territory with those Coffee Shops!! We'll be unstoppable!!!!!
 
catxfighter_3_1 said:
I mean, we are sending our breast trickery unit conquering storm, and the egg clan with her along with a Newton plus don't forget we have a pretty good tricky as well
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The QMs know this and still mention it would be a very hard action to pass. I think even with Rouge lonely help still would be hard.

GUN can send command teams alongside our forces to help.

WE would be rescuing Chuck from the D6 stronghold so I genuine expect that roll to be 200 at least.
 
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Question: how hard is getting Chuck? "research the cure" hard? Really don't want to negotiate for help from G.U.N. on a task with a DC we don't know.

This is the math for the action:
(?? + 22 (Eggman)+ 28 (Conquering Storm) + 10 (Eggboss) + 4 (Opinion)+ 0/15 (Nin-nin)+ 5/15 (Egg Clan) +10 (Newtron) = ?? + 79/109 (infiltration))
This doesn't factor in omake bonuses or making equipment for Conquering Storm. I feel we have a good chance of passing the action. Especially with factors like:
Kingster said:
Results: Dc to raid Zavok, infiltrate and to take territory have been reduced!
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making it easier.

I think negotiating for this and then giving them Chuck is also just going to empower the factions in G.U.N. that don't want the deal. What's going to stop Chuck and the young Top researcher that hates us from stealing our bots before we have time change that code?
 
MrHobbit said:
What efforts? GUN is the one who did the work. If GUN tries to help them we can crush GUN too.
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With what army? We only have so many Badniks and a handful of Heroes (Egg Clan may be good, but frontline warfare is NOT their forte).

MrHobbit said:
...By giving them our Chaos Emerald? You see how these statements contradict each other right?
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Here's the rub....Now that I think about it....we could just....LET an invasion of Restoration territory occur....slip in...and steal the Emeralds amidst the chaos....

Or, we could try to browbeat them....claiming "since you ignoramus' can't properly secure the Chaos Emerald, it falls to ME to keep these locked up!"
 
Actually that is something else we could ask.

Dropping the charges of the auction for the stealing of the lance off Starline, Stone and Canaan, at least for their territory.
 
SpiderWizard said:
I think negotiating for this and then giving them Chuck is also just going to empower the factions in G.U.N. that don't want the deal. What's going to stop Chuck and the young Top researcher that hates us from stealing our bots before we have time change that code?
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Chuck is a "good guy" he knows he's strong arming Eggman and he would definitly erase the virus for one, he would keep his world and two he definitely do not want Eggman after him and his grandson.
 
[] Plan: Stop trying to take a mile when given a inch
[] Yes (When the Black Arms return, you and GUN will collaborate to fight them, collaboration next turn to study the Black Arms, material)
-[] with some conditions
--[] thunderbolts release into our care in exchange we give Zomzom as a prisoner instead
--[] Dropping the charges of the auction for the stealing of the lance off Starline, Stone and Canaan.
 
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