From a discussion that popped in discord and had to say this

Will say this cause i think needs to be said.

Getting the conch will make the fight easier sure, not an autopass but will reomove some of the difficutlies/challenge.

You can still win and beat the remaining Zeti without it as long as you guys plan well and play it smartk,(and dice don't fuck you, but cant really do much about it).

Zhor isn't freacking Selvaria or Shadow, fear mongering about that won't do much. but stress people without reason

If you want to get the conch and make things easier go ahead.
 
Crumbling Foundations
Crumbling Foundations
Master Zik heard once: pain is the worst friend, but the greatest teacher.

Many life lessons proved that statement true again and again. In his youth, he had to learn many painful lessons due to his youthful pride making him commit many errors despite the best efforts of his master.

Even in his twilight years, he still had many learn, as his most recent wounds proved. But he eventually understood them, and grew into a fearsome Zeti that would eventually form the Deadly Six and then pass the mantle of leader to his finest disciple, Zavok.

Since he began training him, Zik saw in Zavok the potential to surpass him even in his prime. He was a machine, in the lack of a better term. Other members of the Six could surpass him in certain areas - Zomom was better in taking hits, Zor was sneakier and more attuned to the mystical side of their species, Zeena had potential to be better than Zavok when wielding weapons if she put the effort and Zazz had a talent for piloting and thinking out of the box despite his punkish mind.

Zavok though? The true physical prime of their species, having good ability with their control of machines and the charisma and power to keep their rowdy bunch together. A perfect leader...

Well, almost. For he suffered from the same issues Zik suffered back then.

"Why did you lose?" he asked for the twentieth time.

Currently, the Deadly Six's leader was sitting with his legs crossed, taking deep breaths. His body was covered in bondage and his wounded eye was covered by an eyepatch. It would heal eventually, but it was a close call. Whatever weapon that tanned girl had packed enough of a punch it nearly brought permanent damage to it.

"...I focused too much on Eggman-"

THUNK! The staff of Zik slammed on his disciple's head.

"That too, but you already said that and I said it was wrong. Again."

"I didn't cover the Metal Sonics-"

THUNK!

"Again."

"I should have focused on the minions first-"

THUNK!

"And leave yourself vulnerable to the Death Egg Robot?! Fool, fool, fool!"

They had been at that game since Zavok felt good enough to walk outside of the infirmary. Zik wanted that lesson to stay in his disciple's head for a long time.

"It's exactly what I said before, Zavok! You lost yourself to your wrath back then!" Master Zik said. "You attacked while Eggman had all the cards and we had nil! It was a wonder we managed to mount such a strong assault when he had the field rigged at his favor from start!"

Zavok growled.

"And we can't let that man get too much moment," he said. "If he ever finds the Cacophonic Conch, then we're doomed."

"The Conch is still in the Hex, you fool!" Zik said. "Even if Eggman had the means to reach there, it would take too long for it to make a difference in our battle! And don't use such excuses to attempt to sneak out of punishment, this is serious! We lost two of our own kinsman due to your recklessness!"

"Zeena and Zomom lost because they were weak!" Zavok insisted. "Exactly like it happened back then-"

THUNK!

"We all lost when the hedgehog was in the Lost Hex, imbecile! Does that make you weak too?!" Zik said. "A leader must be cool under pressure and not let their emotions drive their actions - exactly what you did!"

"The continued existence of that man is a threat to everything we worked for so far!" Zavok roared back.

Master and disciple stared at each other for a tense moment...before Zavok's visible eye softened.

"I'm sorry, Master...I just feel so tired," he said. "If it weren't for Zazz and Zor, we would be in quite a pickle. Did you train them?"

"...I expected the best, preparing for the worst," the minuscule Zeti said. "Zavok, your emotions are a powerful fuel to crush our foes, but it can be used against you if you're not prepared. Calm thought it's what will lead us to victory. Now, relax here. Become one with the world around you...become one with destruction, for this is the natural path of all worlds."

The hulking red giant did as asked, closing his eyes, and taking deep breaths...his breathing stabilized. His body relaxed.

Perhaps the lesson did enter through his ears, after all...

And then peace was broken.

"We have a problem," Zor began, hopping into the room.

Zavok's eyes snapped wide open.

"This surely can be left for later," Zik began, only for Zor to cut him off.

"It's the Thorndykes. They are gone."

That caught their attention.

"WHAT?!" Zavok roared, lifting from the ground and marching to his fellow Zeti.

"Our cameras only caught it this morning," their spymaster said. "The place we kept the old man and his brat got totally detonated from night to day. All I managed to recover was a clip of a Blowfish crossing our airspace, going in..." he gulped. "In Eggman territory."

Zavok opened his mouth and closed, and then opened it.

"That...that old fart!" he said. "He must have sent some sort of message with his location! That-" then the eyes of the leader of the Deadly Six widened. "...the code. The code we were using to keep everything under our control. Eggman now can do whatever he wants with it."

The eyes of the other two Zeti widened.

"No...this means..." Zik mumbled.

Their cyberspace was completely vulnerable. Ready for Eggman to take over back to himself.

The old Zeti glanced at Zavok. His expression morphed into one of rage...and Zik knew.

He would have to do his damn best to stop his disciple from committing a foolish mistake.

"EEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNN!"
 
I would like us to research the warp topaz.

Unfortunate, while useful, only Starline can take and it's likely to fail.

I tjink is better toninvestigate the Rings, likw they can be kore than just a piwer source, several medias Sonic use them as a power boost as a example.

It could be a powerful tool to our heroes.

Also Overcloak Sage.

Sage nay be a monster in the digital realm but here are things that can threaten her out there.
 
For some reason, I picture Eggman turning the Thorndikes over to the Restoration as him having the two tied up and just poking them over with a really long stick. It's a funny image.
 
A random meme:

Sage: (presses a button) "To me, my Egg siblings!"

(Belle, Metal, Orbot and Cubot are teleported in)

Metal: "This BETTER be important."

Sage: "I crashed the Egg Mobile and need an alibi."

Orbot: "...You could have just called us over a communicator."

Sage: "I worked hard on that teleporter!"
 
Unfortunate, while useful, only Starline can take and it's likely to fail.

I tjink is better toninvestigate the Rings, likw they can be kore than just a piwer source, several medias Sonic use them as a power boost as a example.

It could be a powerful tool to our heroes.

Also Overcloak Sage.

Sage nay be a monster in the digital realm but here are things that can threaten her out there.

Rings can be put off for later, since the best time to take advantage of them is when we are once again ruling over green hills. I highly doubt much of our units will be able to use Rings, let alone use them to boost themselves. If they were easy to use and/or didn't require certain circumstances to use, than everyone who were fighting Eggman would have been using them and Eggman would have considered them to be something more than a curiosity and invested in them more.

The warp topaz and moonstone research are better picked to be finished sooner. The ability to warp for the rest of our units is an ability that I believe we should have as soon as possible and we will also know the limits to it and what else it could possibly do. The moonstone can probably unlock the ability to train the darscens in Piastol magic. But more importantly, we would finally be able to upgrade her ship again, since further upgrading it require moonstones to be researched and unlocked as a resource, stated by the QMs.
 
We should maybe save arguing about what to research until after we complete our current mission. Then we can argue all we want.
 
Rings can be put off for later, since the best time to take advantage of them is when we are once again ruling over green hills. I highly doubt much of our units will be able to use Rings, let alone use them to boost themselves. If they were easy to use and/or didn't require certain circumstances to use, than everyone who were fighting Eggman would have been using them and Eggman would have considered them to be something more than a curiosity and invested in them more.

The warp topaz and moonstone research are better picked to be finished sooner. The ability to warp for the rest of our units is an ability that I believe we should have as soon as possible and we will also know the limits to it and what else it could possibly do. The moonstone can probably unlock the ability to train the darscens in Piastol magic. But more importantly, we would finally be able to upgrade her ship again, since further upgrading it require moonstones to be researched and unlocked as a resource, stated by the QMs.

We don't even have moonstone besides those in Piastol Ship and once again studiing the Warp Topaz os likely to fail.

Also the option to upgrade Piastol can be unlovk as a reward of the new omake bounty coming up called Paint Wars. Eggman simple has no interest in upgranding the Avenger as of this moment until he reclaim his Empire, he kinda has more important stuff to do.

Also Starline is expires in Turn 6, we kinda need to put him in a action that can be useful to Eggman and not likely to fail.

Such as Egg Drones or maybe upgrading badniks to Ragnite Power or something.
 
Guys, what do you think of Yon and Ichi?

...I'm not sure what to say.

You know better not to involve too much SMT stuff, the QMs said they thing think the maximum would be the demon summoning would show up here besides summoning demons is Goji unique gimmick int his quest. I don't think we will be able to replicate that.

Honestly I'd be more concerned of a possible mass invasion. We have enough trouble in this world as it is.

Zhor isn't freacking Selvaria or Shadow, fear mongering about that won't do much. but stress people without reason

If you want to get the conch and make things easier go ahead.

...Saying Zor isn't like Selvaria and Shadow isn't as reassuring as you'd think considering recent events.

Still your point is taken. I'd say we whittle them down a bit more after taking all our stuff back before lanuching our main assault, but we should be all ready in a turn or two.

"EEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNN!"

Zik is to his credit, a pretty good teacher.

Unfortunately the enemy gets a say too.

Ah the sound of your enemies screaming in rage, such a wonderful feeling.
 
Easy fix: let's use Starline in an easy learning action. It'll clear out some backlog, and satisfy his drive.
 
... Question, since we are locked to Gene teraphy.

Can we take the teraphy with Sage and put Starline on one of the learning actions?
 
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