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Damn, we adding Gormwand to this.

And that Rune Combo? In the North? For something made to fuck up Greater Daemons who show up in area's of GREAT MAGIC?

Yeah that's a insane effect, and it going to TRIPLE performance.
 
What's Tholinn issue with his old man?
its been foreshadowed since tholinn was introduced- his parents are of the inclination that a child is the personal property of the parents, to be used as the parent sees fit
Introduction by Voik:
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But yes, Tholinn Goldbeard. Head already stuffed full of nonsense by his parents, not allowed to have a normal childhood because his parents instead wanted him to hyperfocus on his future as a Runesmith. Excellent parenting really. And he would prefer not to reward that kind of behavior, what a way to sabotage a Dwarf's future, except this might be the best chance to get him away from them and keep him from losing his mind, gain access to their network of hunters to at least get the materials cheaper, and have an apprentice to help with labor and serve as a secretary to get him in contact with possible clients.

Hm.

Introduction to canon by soul:
"He's a prickly sort with people his age," Nain tells you within the privacy of his study, "Don't rightly know what his parents did to make him that way, and whether it's a Brightwill tradition to do that or if its all on them."

"Brightwill, a small Clan," you mutter, trawling through your memory to see what you could scrounge up. Hunters, of rare and exotic reagents if you recall correctly, an activity that sprouted up from their desire to aid their Kin who possessed The Gift. A talent they expanded into a proper enterprise to make a name for themselves.

"But wealthy, they knew I learned under Hammerspite and made quite the case."

You narrow your eyes just a tad.

"Nain-"

"If I didn't believe he was worth teaching I wouldn't be teaching him Master, no matter how much coin they dangled my way" Nain says, "He's a fine student, doesn't complain, and works hard, but I took him on because I saw a shadow of a good man under it all. And that good man would have died if he stayed with his parents."

You sigh.

Of all your students to take on a lad like this, you honestly thought it would be Snerra.

"I won't insult your intelligence lad, but I will remind you. Failure won't just be a blow to your pride, it may mean that a young man's entire life is thrown off course. I trust that you can succeed, but…be careful Nain. You're rolling the dice with someone else's coin on the line here."

"I won't fail the boy Master," Nain promises.

"See that you don't."

For his sake, and yours, you add silently.
 
For every smooth and grand occasion like Dolgi's, there was a 'bad' one. Bad in the sense that not everything went to plan, or a fight broke out after drinks started being passed around. Definitely mortifying in the moment, but perspective would show as nothing more than a hiccup or two that most would cackle over later. Yours was something like that, more than a few missing ale barrels and overrun costs because your brothers thought it'd be the funniest thing to go tasting the ale to confirm its quality—

—right. Where were you? Ah. Then there were the really bad ones. The ones with the fights that were done sober, and where folk didn't end up bonding over afterwards. Drama that had a way of spoiling what should be an otherwise happy occasion with issues that rarely ever started that night. Been to a few of those too, more than you'd like. Always put a pall over everything.
At least he's able to think about his own wedding.

You turn your head and regard Tholin sitting off to the side, bandaged up and surrounded by Dawi of whom one he was immediately related to, and revise your statement.

Poor lads, plural.

The rest of the young man's Clan left a while ago, thankfully. The presence of two Runelords has a way of keeping things from escalating.

"What a mess," Bara mutters, walking up beside you, "Should have worn my armour if I knew this would happen."

You incline your head in agreement. Never a fun thing to see dirty laundry aired out like that, even if you felt a small uptick in pride as you remembered Nain's response.

"Did you know?"

You give her the side-eye, "Nai I trusted the lad. He came with a few questions, said a few things off hand, but not the nitty-gritty. He tell you anything?"

The crags of her skin drooped just enough to betray her. Children are foolish, but they aren't mindless. Nain's decision is as much a reflection of Bara's efforts in that way.

"Nai, he didn't," she sighs, watching Bronn come over and pat Nain on the back gamely which he accepts with a grateful nod.

Some scars don't heal the way you'd like in the end.

"You want to talk to him first?" you offer.

Bara looks at you, a hint of gratitude in her eyes.

"Aye, I'll do that."

"Right'o, then I'll go speak to young Tholinn," you agree easily, slapping Bara on the shoulder and start quietly moving towards Nain's apprentice.

An Elder's work is never done.
Family drama is a pain and it's even worse for Dawi. Bara and Snorri are doing their jobs as Elders to help out.

"Then hopefully it'll heal the way you intend, assuming you see the Valayans and they do their job," you say

Tholinn hunches over slightly.

"It is…difficult…to find the lesson in Valaya's wisdom in these times," he eventually says.

Hmm, no. Not the time for metaphors from the looks of it, right.

"There is blame a'plenty lad, I won't coddle you and try to assuage your feelings. Your father has his excuses—"

Tholinn whirls on you, eyes burning with anger.

"—and you have yours. Your grandfather too I can imagine. Doesn't make them right does it?"

Tholinn is silent, so you continue.

"It's a lesson many struggle with even Living Ancestors. Easy to hate a wrongdoer you aren't kin to, or to care for someone who hasn't harmed your kin. Looking in is harder than glaring out. Many Dawi flounder and blame everyone or blame the wrong person when they're in your position. Truth is, we can always find someone to blame and we can always find some reason to excuse ourselves or others."

"So then what? I apologize, Elder, but I cannot find the thoroughline in your wisdom."

You sigh.

"No lad, that's a fair shake. A whole lot of dithering on my part. Point is your father can screw himself. A Debt is a Debt, and I doubt he's so feckless as to lie about something like that, but he let his business with your grandfather spill into his relationship with you. A Dwarf who'd use another to settle vengeance in such a way, let alone their own kin? They could be the next coming of Durin in terms of skill, but a bitter soul sours all it touches. I only advise you this; if you haven't already then look at everyone you're kin to and attempt to judge them independent of your father. You don't have to do it today, or even soon, but decide for each one of them if they're worth keeping in touch with or not."

"And if they're too entwined? Complicit?"

"Then toss 'em," you answer without missing a beat.
The validation of sometimes you gotta cut folks off if they're to toxic is extremely rare in the Dawi society and Tholinn hearing that from Snorri of all people did him a lot of good.

"And…and if I'd rather do away with them without trying?"

"Then don't."

"Doesn't Clan Winterhearth prize kinship?"

"Kinship's a two-way street lad. Give and take. You sacrifice because you know they would not ask frivolously, and that they would do the same for you if you ask. Demand without proper recompense is not kinship, it is the mockery of it."

"...Is it truly that easy?"

"Ha! No. Neither option is. They're straightforward, there's a difference. Giving up on family isn't an easy thing, to just toss away kinship, however rotten, is never something done on a whim I find. That's the sort of thing that folk agonize over. And my recommendation's little easier. If you try to reach out they may turn out worse than you thought, or they aren't but they may not want to reciprocate. It'll be like pulling teeth if you do it either way. But reaching out's something I'm telling you to consider for your benefit, not your Clan's. If you think someone's salvageable, salvage it. If your father's such a poison that the whole batch is too rancid to stomach then toss the whole damn batch and wipe your hands of them. See the Debt settled, but make sure you can walk away with as few regrets or reasons to dwell as possible."

"Don't know if I'm strong enough to do it, or If I'll get sucked back into that…debacle," he says.

You hum and pass a second tankard over to him.

"Then ask someone you trust, I'm not telling you to do it alone either. That or compare it to a decent example of family every so often, Dolgi's or my brother's, if you need it spelled out for you."

"I shouldn't involve—"

"Bugger that. I've seen what loneliness gets you. Save that pride for your craftsmanship boy, not your emotional wellbeing."

Tholinn does not reply.

"I've gabbed long enough I think. Take your time, get shitfaced and think about it with a clear head. No matter what though, know that you're only as alone as you make yourself lad."
Not everyone is like his pops and that matters. Plus leaning on people is important.

"Say Snorri," Master Yorri begins suspiciously, squinting at you, "You do something to your eye?"

"Aye," you confirm, seeing his soul lean forward, "finished it."

Master Yorri blinks then grins, his soul doing the same, "the Rune?"

You nod again, "the Windsight portion at least, but it's limited to a prosthetic—don't even think about it Master!"

Master Yorri scoffs, "I'm not blinding myself—"

You let out a sigh of relief.

"—before I made the replacement lad," your teacher finishes casually.

Valaya grant you strength.

"Assuming you tried just having three eyes first of course," your teacher continues, ignorant or uncaring of your response.

"Perspective issues. Rune's vision is….fixed to one of two perspectives. Left eye, or right eye. Hoping that I can find a variant that doesn't have that sort of dependency."

"Aye I can see why you wouldn't want Valaya and Her followers coming for you," Yorri agrees, "but if most had to pick—"

"—they'd give an eye to overcome Durin's Consternation, aye (HAH) I know."
Honestly can't blame Yorri for wanting to cut his eye out since this is his life's ambition.

But fate denies you.

The ground beneath your feet trembles, and the muffled crack of a thunderbolt beyond the Gromril clad walls of the Anvil's containment room has all of you turn.

It's time.

"The Storm looms and Skaudardrengi must be in position. Karstah! You know the plan! I'll join you shortly," you bark out, still looking at your teacher.

Your heir nods and rushes off, leaving you and Master Yorri relatively alone.

"Snorri—" Yorri begins, warning in his voice. His soul straightens from its hunch, finally standing and mirroring his body.

"I am more prepared this time," you interrupt him before Yorri can lecture, moving and stretching the arm wearing Aethyrbinder subconsciously. Behind you the chest of reagents and the skeletal torso of Skaudardrengi is slowly being pulled towards Anvil's containment chamber.

Yorri's brow furrows as he presses, "Boy, don't think you can—"

"I don't Master," you cut in again, firm, "The deck's as stacked as I can make it, but I know it's not guaranteed." The clink of metal echoing behind you as the door swings open, letting the cacophony of noise enter the Giantworks properly. Your eye sees the Winds reacting even though the Storm has yet to arrive in full, Chamon, and Aqshy swell from the ground and blow in from the opened doors like a magma flow and dust storm respectively. Your retainers stand back, and Mhorni grows large enough to hold the reagent chest under its arm while grabbing the heavy chains connected to the skeletal torso to pull it across final leg of the journey into the chamber proper.

Yorri growls, his soul bears a furious scowl, "Damn it Snorri, you didn't have to carry your arse out of that Anvil last time!"

Soup in a pot…

"I know. I'm still doing it," you reaffirm.
Snorri knows this is absurdly dangerous but he's doing it anyway because the gains, progress and understanding is to potent not to. Yorri is being hit right in the trauma right now.

Yorri's glower is rife with conflict, his soul rages between pride and fear, stirring up strings of Aqshy and Shyish in a way that's reminiscent of Rudil when he returned from Grom. The tremors and the noise subside and suddenly the chamber glows with a familiar gold and orange-red light, bathing those standing before the doorway with its glow. All around and on you, Runes start to glitter brighter and brighter, imbued with greater power.

The two of you stand there quietly trying to force the other to submit, a silent contest of Wills between two elderly Dawi. His soul stands tall, unyielding, and the golden veins—mangled as they are—shine brightly. Yorri's Stilling Field is stronger than your own you realize, the strange mechanics of the phenomena causing yours to yield to it where they overlap—

(Roll, The Shamed: [Never again] + [Trauma] = Inconsequential, my student will Live)

—but you know you've won when that same soul hunches over. His Stilling Field also gives way to yours as it shrinks, not sputters you quietly note. Yorri reaches behind him, hand disappearing into the space between his back and his cloak—how did you not notice the Ulgu there, nevermind, that's a dumb question—for something.

"Damned fool boy. Damned fool of a boy I taught," he mutters, turning his head as he continues to rifle through whatever it is he's got back there. All the while the spectre of his soul stares at you, like it would be the last time you see each other.

May very well be.
Yorri has decided that Snorri is going to Live no matter what. Also the details about Yorri's stilling field is interesting.

Yorri finally mutters a faint "there you are," as he finally finds whatever it is he was looking for. With a grunt he reveals something that simple logic tells you should not be able to fit back there. Considerations of space and volume fall to the wayside however, because your teacher just pulled out Gormwand from behind him.
Bond, a hand outstretched, union.
The Staff of Thungni hidden away with the casualness of someone stowing away chuf beneath his helmet.
A sum greater than their individual parts, a greater view, a greater connection.
When Yorri has it fully revealed you can't help but catch how the Runes on both the Staff and Karaz-Kazak-Rhun pulse once before returning to their normal glow.
2 of 3, the distant partner in the west.
"Move! Bah, damn student forcing my damn hand with his nonsense," he grumbles, walking past you and towards the Anvil. The Winds, so thick as to be visible like they were at this place two centuries ago, actually parting around him as Yorri's Stilling Field asserts itself.

You move to follow, spotting your heir waiting at the door. Before your own Stilling Field engulfs it you see how her's stands in the face of the Winds billowing out from the Anvil. So close to the Anvil, her Field barely registers as an obstacle to the Winds, noticeable only by the way the strands of magic organize themselves in its radius before returning to their usual chaos as they pass beyond its edge. Your armour is glowing, but not the blinding white you recall it once shimmering with during Skarrenbakraz's forging. A good sign, you hope.
He watches his student stop in front of his grandstudent.
Karstah stands stoically, squinting but not closing her eyes. Even if her soul wasn't betraying her you can read her well enough to know what goes through that head of hers. Worry. Fear. Hope.
Fingers curl as his mind superimposes another pair over them—
How you've failed her you think, and how well she's done in spite of it. A legend in her own making, and a Master now with students of her own.
Hands fall.
"Karstah," you stop, then get over yourself, "my child."
—but the old panic is buried under iron will,crushing shame, and glowing pride.
Live. Grow. Be more than I could ever be.
He makes the oath easily, for what little his word is worth. He swears that at least one of them is leaving this chamber.
"You've proven yourself worthy long ago," you finally say, voice firmer than the Adamant adorning you. Of my legacy, of my pride, of my love, of my hope.
The question of who that one is doesn't need to be clarified.
She nods and you walk past the threshold of the containment chamber where Master Yorri waits.
OKAY holy shit Yorri has the Staff of Thungni good to know, he's also giving it to Snorri for a bit to stay alive. Yorri is having flashbacks to himself and Durin right now and is happy that Snorri told his daughter the secrets of how things works and is telling her that she's long since proven worth.

Grumbling, you nevertheless heed his word. Each step closer makes your gear shine brighter and brighter, Aethyrbinder begins to release small tongues of flame while Karaz-Kazak-Rhun burns like a star. The flood of magic is ordered somewhat, by both your Hammer-empowered Stilling Field and by Gormwand from the looks of it, but not denied. Flowing past you and Yorri into the channels and spillways by the repulsive fields of several Runes. The containment chamber for the Anvil is a newer addition to the Giantworks, rapidly designed in the wake of your Windsight observations and then further redesigned—despite already being half-built—after the exercise at the Waystone. The protections aren't to stop the Winds from escaping, quite the opposite actually, but to minimize destruction in case of failure. With an open air top and "vents" that would reduce the risk of the Winds from an active Anvil that could only be closed from within and opened from outside.
The various bits of gear is really helping with this.

"I'll see them again," you tell yourself, taking a calming breath as you grasp both Zharrgal and Karaz-Kazak-Rhun.

Whether it's the "them" outside or the "them" feasting in the Underearth, you honestly cannot say.
He knows he's gambling with his life here.

Walking up to your Master's Master, you ask the obvious question. "He told you to leave didn't he?"

"Some nonsense about Stilling whatevers…"

"Stilling Field, aye," you fill in easily, feeling just a bit foolish for not remembering that bit before letting Elder Yorri enter the chamber.

The aforementioned Elder stares at you, eyebrow quirked and clearly expectant.

You hesitate to answer, if Master Snorri was intending to—

"Bah, I know that look. Just tell me, girl. I swear on my Honour that it won't affect my answer if your father tries to use that knowledge to barter with me," Yorri says blithely, but just a tad too quickly.

Now you're no mind reader, but even you can tell there's an undercurrent of something beneath the curiosity and casual dismissal. Desperation? Worry? Bah.

"I'm holding you to that," you mutter before taking a breath, "Master Snorri's not tugging your beard Elder. Since he put in that eye he can't stand near another Runesmith when they're forging a Rune without the Rune failing."

"I take it you found out the hard way?" he grumbles knowingly.

You nod, ignoring the phantom aches that flare up, "Felt worse than striking my first Master Rune. Master Snorri says the closest thing he can compare it to was an apprentice trying to Forge a Rune before they'd conditioned their bodies properly."

Yorri grumbles as he stares at the containment chamber, or more accurately the Dwarf within it, now fully sealed again.

"That lad is going to be the death of me."
He's hoping she knows the deep lore in Snorri's head and won't have to live with not knowing like he had to, just in case Snorri doesn't make it back.

This was Kraka Drakk, the Hold that held the honour of containing the second greatest concentration of Winterhearth Dawi in the Karaz Ankor just after their Ancestral Hold. Where Dawi and the terrifying Branakroki first made common cause, and where Valiant Grimnir last supped before His Doom! Where the exotic wares and tales from the now not-so-distant lands of the Far North flowed south to the rest of the Everlasting Realm!

And now it is also where she'll spend the duration of her apprenticeship.

Her Runesmith's apprenticeship!

It's almost too much to bear sometimes! She's going to be taught by Karstah Snorrisdottir, the third greatest living Runesmith of the Clan—who herself was a peer of the second greatest living Runesmith of the Clan, Snerra Brightgrin —and the heir of Him!

"Ah there she is now. A surprise! Alma, be on your best behavior now eh? Cousin!" her father hollers.

By Valaya's beard is that—could it be?!

Aaaaa
The sheer wonder that Kraka Drakk, Karstah and Snorri invokes is great to see.

"She's a polite one," your murmur. Maybe you should have brought Yorri, not the old one who was waiting for your Master but the younger one you've taken on as an apprentice, with you.

"Ah don't let that fool you cousin Karstah, my Alma's just a bit shy," her father says with a grin, "Give her a day or two to collect her wits and you'll get a better look at the truth. Why, if Lord Klausson had been here she'd be blubbering like a babe."

"Father," Alma mutters, a bit of horrified embarrassment leaking into her otherwise monotone voice, "please."

Seems like he was right.

"No shame in it young lady, we're all kin here eh?"

"Father—"

You huff, funny as it may be to see her flounder saving your new student from further embarrassment seems like the right thing to do.

"Aye we are, and there are plenty more who want to greet the young lady as well. Come along, we'll make our way to the Clanhall and pick up Yorri from his duties, then head to Khazagar to see Alma here settled."

"Now that's a fine plan, cousin Karstah! A fine plan!"

You give your apprentice a knowing nod before she turns and starts leading them to the rest of the Clan.

Her and Yorri'll hopefully get along, their personalities seemed compatible enough.

Svina's going to eat her alive though, girl has a knack for bothering the overly formal.
She's going to be an entertaining addition to the group.

Windsight is not a boon in this case, if only because it makes seeing anything a pain in your arse. Magic is so thick in the air that you don't need your eye to see it, and with your eye everything looks like you're suspended in liquid; the world subsumed in a milky glittery haze reminiscent of what Dragon Essence looks like.
Man is seeing a lot of crazy stuff.

To your quiet relief Aethyrbinder does its job, and it does it well. How much is because of it, and how much is because of Gormwand you cannot say. If only you could witness its interaction with the Staff and the Hammers more closely, but every ounce of focus must be on the Runes.

Empowerment is first, the grooves in the Adamant forming, not from the tink-tink of hammer and chisel but from empty air. Karaz-Kazak-Rhun renders the need for a chisel pointless as it manipulates the force with all the precision you need. Meanwhile Zharrgal reveals and smooths over your mortal imperfections with each ringing blow. Beside you Mhorni does the same, its hammer blows synchronized with yours to impart heat and force for Karaz-Kazak-Rhun to use.

Line by line, blow by blow, you carry on with the striking.
His gear is insanely good which is helping out a lot.

Power, so much power flows from outside, channeled through you and then imbued into a metal whose upward limit you have yet to see. The "lightning" that strikes you is not real, but beams of hyper condensed Chamon and Aqshy, strong enough to overcome the grounding effect of your Stilling Field but still bound into the thin lines you've seen before, strikes your form constantly. Manifesting in greater and greater amounts as the striking continues and the Field begins to slowly shrink.

But you're aware, and you're not in agony yet. The tingling pricks you felt before have not started, yet. Every moment of peace is one you spend marshalling your Will for whatever is to come.

All else falls away, just the chant on your lips, the ringing of your hammers and the dull roar of the world, of power.

Hammers fall—
Duruk angrungnaz
—and in your mind you can hear the call of a Drakk.
He's mainlining the Dragon concept right now.

You are Karstah—

—bah.

It's been half a year since your teacher has secluded himself in the Giantworks, and it's just your luck that things have gone to the latrine while he was away.

A Grudge, in Khazagar. Not the first made in its walls, but the first that seriously involved it.

Over a book.

If Master Snorri were here you would imagine he'd be having very choice words about it.

Whatever the case, you are left with the aftermath.

Two Master Runesmiths stand before you. Both of the same lineage, both 'Snorrists'— a term that your teacher dislikes and that you find half-correct—and both glaring at the other like they were the cause for all the world's woes.
Of course shit would start when he's gone.

The book's contents are good but nothing revolutionary, a series of observations and notes on Hearthstones that the two compiled from over a century's worth of letters and discussions across the Far North. Adding some nuance to Master Snorri's extensive baseline. What it represented was more important though, at least to Master Snorri if he were here. The first addition to the Kron-Thingondrol not authored by your teacher or anyone in his lineage of apprentices.

Or it would be.

If these two weren't arguing about it.

You would normally detest having to be brought in to what was clearly a personal affair, but after their Master had failed to find recourse on his own he'd gone out of his way to make a personal entreaty to your Master. But as Master Snorri was busy—and you were his heir—the Master had then come to you.

Bah.

Much as it rankles, aid was called for and you would not besmirch the legacy of Snorri Gift Giver by refusing to answer.

But that doesn't mean you can't do it your way.

You slam your hammers against the floor, their heads crackling with flame and frost both. "Both of you shut your traps and listen well—"
Props to her for handling it.

- [Late 504] The sister Holds of Karak Varn and Zhufbar make a new announcement perfectly in line with this Age of Wonders. Using their portion of the grand windfall that comes from the newest Gromril strike, the Masons and Engineers of both Holds declare that they shall create a thing to match the wonder of Lord Morgrim. A grand series of causeways to connect the two Holds. Not beneath the earth, but rather above it! Spearheaded by the Guildmasters of each Hold's Engineers Guild chapters, this Skybridge, shall span kilometres of open air with simple mastery of the physical principles. And once its value and skill is proven, there can be no doubt that the chapter in Everpeak shall also participate. The necessity of such a bridge? Bah. Don't listen to their prattle, this is first and foremost a vanity project.
People want to live up to the Age of Wonders thing.

- [Burudin] I should hope that someone has found a Rhunki worthy of filling Angkra's place.

- [Burudin] Slim pickings. What of that girlchild from the North? Klausson's niece.

- [Burudin] Too young, but should she live long enough(which I do not doubt), she's a sure enough option. Angkra would have approved at least.

- [Burudin] Too cheery.

- [Burudin] That's an apprentice level answer, there is no doubt in my mind that all four of them will have their perceptions of your maturity broken in good time. But who among this current crop is worthy hmm?
Looks like they're planning a replacement for Angkra.

- [Burudin] The day such considerations become anything more than idle notes when determining membership amongst this body is the day half you louts ought to stop harping on the Gift Giver about supposed aims for leadership and go after each other. I'll sooner join Lord Grimnir than sully this group's purpose with such ideas.

- [Burudin] If such schools of thought want a seat at the table, they simply need to find worthy candidates. It's quite simple.

- [Burudin] My brother made this union as a forum of discussion, there is merit to a diversity of thought here.

- [Burudin] Then find such freethinkers who have the skill to not shame the rest of us with their inclusion, rather than needing the volume and content of their grumbling be pleasant enough to get them in.

- [Burudin] Oh tug my beard you third-rate baker—
This seems to be a bit of a philosophical split in the group.

- +1 Progress to Understand Runecraft, The Stilling Field, new totals: [3/4 actions]
-- It appears that a Stilling Field can grow and shrink outside the purposes of forging a Rune. Admittedly your only data point is your master's injured soul but still!
-- Enough magic can overcome the repulsive effect of a Stilling Field, the amount depends on the Field, but it can. The ordering effect however, does not seem to be affected by that.
-- You've seen two Runesmiths who have mangled veins, yourselkf and Yorri. You don't know why Yorri's are the way they are, but you (probably) know why yours are.
Snorri learned things.

What's Tholinn issue with his old man?
The whole reason why Nain took Tholinn on as a student is because he saw that he was a good kid from a bad family. His pops basically tried using Tholinn is a revenge scheme to try and get one over on Tholinn's grandpa for some reason and Tholinn wasn't cool with that.
 
>yfw Vragni's the only one who maintains comportment, poise and maturity
It time for Vragni turn at having his faith in the Burudin get shatter when he see living ancestors older than him argue about the proper way to make goat stew.

Poor Fjolla, considered lesser by her clan compared to someone much her junior (and probably inferior in talent).
Fjolla is officially part of another clan.
 
Yorri had Gormwand!! I can't wait for absolutely everyone to be like who tf is this guy cause no one but the some of the oldest Runelords seem to know who he is. Going to be the easiest runelord nomination as well lol.

So far no funky business with Skaud, nice to see aethyr is working as intended. With Gormwand and KKR here I really hope we breach the gltitering realm again.
 
Well, adding a second Thungi artefact to the creation of Skaud is happening after all, not borrowing the tongs, but our master having found Gormwand, and lending it not on "we are worthy" grounds but "goddammit I have to do this to make sure you don't kill yourself" grounds. Still, can't wait for the reveal on what by the hammer and staff of Thungi is (wonder what the trait for all 3 artefacts is. Quick, people in thread, make up something silly like it makes the creation taste of the finest cheese.) Shame the peerless production rolls only hit 2 of them, but plenty of overflow regardless, probably a worthy trade for getting that void stone roll.
 
Well, adding a second Thungi artefact to the creation of Skaud is happening after all, not borrowing the tongs, but our master having found Gormwand, and lending it not on "we are worthy" grounds but "goddammit I have to do this to make sure you don't kill yourself" grounds. Still, can't wait for the reveal on what by the hammer and staff of Thungi is (wonder what the trait for all 3 artefacts is. Quick, people in thread, make up something silly like it makes the creation taste of the finest cheese.) Shame the peerless production rolls only hit 2 of them, but plenty of overflow regardless, probably a worthy trade for getting that void stone roll.
I believe this power lies with the Ancestral Wheel of Cheese which as the Burudin so helpfully put it, seems to be the sole remaining Ancestor artifact that Clan Thungnison retains possession of.

I hope we get the runes on Gormwand and its full list of abilities. I was not expecting the golden veins thing to be part of its repertoire.
 
Burudin
- [Burudin] I should hope that someone has found a Rhunki worthy of filling Angkra's place.

- [Burudin] Slim pickings. What of that girlchild from the North? Klausson's niece.

- [Burudin] Too young, but should she live long enough(which I do not doubt), she's a sure enough option. Angkra would have approved at least.

- [Burudin] Too cheery.

- [Burudin] That's an apprentice level answer, there is no doubt in my mind that all four of them will have their perceptions of your maturity broken in good time. But who among this current crop is worthy hmm?

- [Burudin] Light a torch in a cave gas cavern and bring forward Svaltisson for consideration one of you, I'll offer up my best ale.

- [Burudin] Bryngold Angwanaz of Varn, a good head on his shoulders, of age.

- [Burudin] Damin of Karaz-a-Karak. Solid and undeniably skilled. Member of the Brotherhood of Dron, for good or ill. He's a quiet sort.

- [Burudin] Hmph well Hammerspite's sure to agree if only for more of that Brinril.

- [Burudin] Would do keep the balance in opinions amongst us even to boot.

- [Burudin] The day such considerations become anything more than idle notes when determining membership amongst this body is the day half you louts ought to stop harping on the Gift Giver about supposed aims for leadership and go after each other. I'll sooner join Lord Grimnir than sully this group's purpose with such ideas.

- [Burudin] If such schools of thought want a seat at the table, they simply need to find worthy candidates. It's quite simple.

- [Burudin] My brother made this union as a forum of discussion, there is merit to a diversity of thought here.

- [Burudin] Then find such freethinkers who have the skill to not shame the rest of us with their inclusion, rather than needing the volume and content of their grumbling be pleasant enough to get them in.

- [Burudin] Oh tug my beard you third-rate baker—
PFFFFFFT, GOD, they really are just old goats bickering aren't they. Literally just going in a circle kicking each other and tugging on each other's beard. I wouldn't doubt they'd chew and drink like goats if you put them around a table. These are seriously starting to become my favorite part of these updates, just because of how much amusement and joy I get out of watching them bicker.

Rest of this update was great as well tho, interesting that Karstah POV is starting to go into 2nd person. I'd consider that ominous. But maybe its just a show of like 'Karstah is the next in line and is going to be treated properly like such now that she's been acknowledged."
 
- [Burudin] Then find such freethinkers who have the skill to not shame the rest of us with their inclusion, rather than needing the volume and content of their grumbling be pleasant enough to get them in.

- [Burudin] Oh tug my beard you third-rate baker—
Thus illustrates the importance of Burudin correspondence being done via mail, as I'm pretty sure the latter's comment would have resulted in fists flying instead of the implied flurry of messages had this conversation occurred face to face. Thankfully this hurdle will be passed once someone fulfills Alric's challenge.:V

In completely unrelated news I believe Vragni would be a perfect fit for Burudin membership, but only if Snorri extends the invitation to him personally.
 
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