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yes but the same is true for you what is the benefit of not putting our all into an event that is literally only ganna happen once

This is certainly a valid viewpoint, but it isn't any more or less valid viewpoint than mine (Where the Arcane Fulcrum itself already represents a massive boost without overflows) and I have my own preferences to what I'd like to see our limited available actions used for.

Like I said earlier, I do not expect the majority of the thread to share my viewpoint, but I feel it important to have this conversation if for no other reason than to remind people that our default stance should not necessarily be Maximum Overflows whenever we plan to create anything (particularly when we already have other bonuses lined up for the creation of said item)

EDIT: Particularly when we do not know what the effects of Overflow will be in relation to the 'base' powerlevel. Will our base skill and hammer and the Arcane Fulcrum create an item of 100 units of power, or 50? And will an overflow action add 1 unit of power or 10? Or 100?
No. One. Knows.
 
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Yeah I think doing the Grimnir Gronti now is too soon.

But how about a Banner that then later can become it's cloak?
 
Are there any ideas for how we could make a Traversal Banner combo? We have a Pegasus heart.
The plan for that was to use it for the Hearthguard banner, I believe something like MTraversal+Speed +Strollaz.

Soulcake did say we could use the KotS Feathers for Traversal too, so at the risk of plagirizing myself something like Traversal+Cold+lightning might make a moving storm banner.
 
Well I trust Bungie. And if this storm cloak, judging from the title and themes, can form a set and is compatible with Suneater's Brain, I'd say use the latter, because I don't think we will ever complete it barring insight from elsewhere reducing it like the Greedy One's Heart was. Just extrapolate from Shaggoth Brains to the eleventh power.
 
Alright, we gotta put everything into making something on the Anvil.

We gotta, because that is the most fantasy shit possible.
 
@soulcake Can we get a Greedy Troll heart within the same turn, since they spawn around us and the patrols should drag in a slow but steady flow of corpses.

Also, what Tier would that heart be?
 
I think we should try to make a cape or amulet that connects to deep magic


Our armor and weapons both have something to do with deep magic/runemaking.

So for a deep magic set bonus we should try for that.
 
Well I trust Bungie. And if this storm cloak, judging from the title and themes, can form a set and is compatible with Suneater's Brain, I'd say use the latter, because I don't think we will ever complete it barring insight from elsewhere reducing it like the Greedy One's Heart was. Just extrapolate from Shaggoth Brains to the eleventh power.
Are we even allowed to use the brain without researching it first?
 
Well then we can use the brain in the armor or other gear sometime.

damn we have been hyping the gronti for so long. I cant believe it is finally time.
 
Well I trust Bungie. And if this storm cloak, judging from the title and themes, can form a set and is compatible with Suneater's Brain, I'd say use the latter, because I don't think we will ever complete it barring insight from elsewhere reducing it like the Greedy One's Heart was. Just extrapolate from Shaggoth Brains to the eleventh power.
Are we even allowed to use the brain without researching it first?
I believe Bungie planned to use the Brain on the normal Rune of Lightning, not the Master Rune, as it'd be more likely to fit that way?
From the spitballing done it *should* for a set combo, but we don't know for sure.

Also hearthstones would also work for Gronti making, but they're only T2 (not that I want to make one this turn).
 
Huh, I just noticed Skrundaz is still up, technically we could make the High priest of Grungni a really kickflip pickaxe if we wanted to.
 
no matter the runes we use. that much Adamantium forged on an arcane fulcrum is pretty much a guaranteed Tier 5 Gronti. Especially with Gronti being closely related to the concept of the Deep Magic.
 
Karstah came out alive! Good girl.
The Dice Gods truly do not favor Nain. Let's hope he's accumulating all of that luck for his last creation.

Two new specializations. I'm a bit surprised that we only got them now, considering how Snerra is racking them up. Is this the difference in talent?

Our elvish friends have picked the most auspicious time to found their little colony. Like, you couldn't have possibly picked a worse moment. I hope they won't be targeted by the Fimir or Beastmen. I know that they can defend themselves, but it's still just a new colony.

In terms of what to do...
I don't have a clue!
Maybe a Talisman,
More deep magic's fun.
A Gronti most valiant and brave,
To break the Fimir's shackled slaves.
Do we wish to fight?
Counter Fimir might be right.
But my eyes deceived me not,
Many monsters wake and plot.
Resources and mats most fine,
To create an item runic shine.


Don't forget that Dragon Orges wake up during these storms.
 
The plan for that was to use it for the Hearthguard banner, I believe something like MTraversal+Speed +Strollaz.

Soulcake did say we could use the KotS Feathers for Traversal too, so at the risk of plagirizing myself something like Traversal+Cold+lightning might make a moving storm banner.
I'm not exactly certain why those would combo to be honest. Would you mind explaining, or linking me to an explanation?

I remember anything troll being instant in acquisition as a "benefit" of living in troll country.
Would you mind citing where soulcake said that?
 
or we can try to complete our own set bonus. we have 2/3 of a set so making the last during the first ever storm of magic is a great idea
sure, it's just that I haven't seen any plans that have wowed me extraordinarily.
Wheras a Banner proposal with the Master Rune of Grimnir just writes itself.
 
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