What I'm most interested in is exploring the world, artifacts can be useful, but they are only a fraction what what I want to spend my time doing, and I don't want to spend too much time on it or make Blake try to avoid using black too much. Part of what is attracting me to the story in this world is Blake trying to get away with learning and using a type of magic that the natives view with suspicion, and I think trying to get away from this storyline to focusing on more acceptable magic would actually be a detriment to the story. So if there was an option I'd be voting to continue focusing on trying to learn and use black, whatever guild we join.
The only reason Sylph Symphony is not at the bottom is that I actually enjoy crafting, I just don't want it to be the focus of the story and from what we learned of Lion's Pride, it's kind of a mess we want to avoid. We can always just take the artificing course anyway.
Edit: Oops, didn't see the votes were closed. I'll leave it up anyway for posterity.
Well, it looks like we are doing the artifact lessons and then heading towards Angel's Eye. I like this direction. Not that I didn't like LH, it seemed like it would be really fun. But my issue with LH is that archeology and research takes time, lots of Time. And Blake has a cause to get back to. Unless it was stated otherwise and I missed it, time is flowing just about the same in RWBY as it is here.
So, how long are we/Blake willing to wait before going back to RWBY plane? Something I think should be considered. And if it was and I missed it please let me know. I was gone for a little while and probably missed some stuff as I scanned thing to get up to date.
In general, yea the Faunus will still be there. But she probably won't want to wait years before going back, I assume. My question to the crowd is, at what point will Blake start feeling antsy or guilty about staying away?
If it's on the order of a few months then Blake will probably want all her time at least partially spent towards self development. If it's longer then she will probably feel better about interpersonal growth. If that makes sense?
Also, I'm assuming Blake will want to explore the MGLM plane too, so we should consider that in her long term planning.
As of right now, Blake doesn't actually know how to get back to Remnant; she's not good enough as planeswalking yet. I would presume she won't start feeling guilty until after she's actually got the process of being able to return down.
For those who haven't checked my profile: I do still want to write, but my family received some bad news. Once I recovered from that, classes decided to have multiple overlapping project due dates in the same week. Updates will hopefully resume for a bit after Wednesday of next week; failing that, I'm not taking any summer classes this year and will be free then.
As of right now, Blake doesn't actually know how to get back to Remnant; she's not good enough as planeswalking yet. I would presume she won't start feeling guilty until after she's actually got the process of being able to return down.
Fortunately, Blake consciously realizes that she can't make a huge difference until after she seizes power can bring otherworldly assets to bear.
Blake will also spend some of the next chapter thinking about Remnant. It's not as though she has much else to do once she runs out of mana while traveling alone.
AN: Here, have a thing while I tackle five projects in four days.
WINNER: Angel's Eye
Would you like to spend some time attending Sylph Symphony's artifice lessons?
[X] Yes.
-[X] Before you join a Guild. Otherwise, they might only halfheartedly teach you.
"Thank you for the help," Blake said quietly, well aware that the bickering boys probably wouldn't even notice.
She was right. They might not even have noticed when she quietly slipped away. She honestly didn't mind at all; even if they thought they would only be joking, she wasn't in the mood for the likelihood of sexually-charged suggestions of repayment.
Five minutes later, Blake realized that she didn't actually know where Angel's Eye or Sylph Symphony were located. She didn't exactly want to go back, though. She improvised and asked armed individuals in grey uniforms until the third could refer her to Sylph Symphony's guildhall in the northwestern grasslands and Angel's Eye's home amid a mountainous forest to the northeast. She almost couldn't skip town fast enough after that.
Traveling alone proved to be as trying as it always was, and she only had so much mana to practice with. Examining the exotic Grimm-free environment grew boring within hours, populated areas were much better for honing her mana sense, and Blake couldn't pull out a book or her Scroll to read. Once she finally managed to fight down the unnecessary hyperawareness of her surroundings, Blake was practically forced into planning and the introspection she'd been trying to avoid since she'd left Remnant. Or perhaps it would be more accurate to call it brooding.
There was nothing forcing humanity to improve conditions for Faunus. Sure, the train raid had been meant to contribute toward the idea that it was more expensive to continue their oppression than it was to grant equality. Now that she was off Remnant and had time for introspection, however, Blake was no longer confident that it would have helped. There was a certain kind of person who honestly thought that conceding anything would set a precedent that could and would lead to further concessions. Yet more saw the Faunus as inferior, animalistic savages who should be opposed at every opportunity, or they simply believed that any gain for Faunus was an automatic loss for humanity.
Regardless of how they justified their own selfishness and bigotry, the fact remained that there were quite a few humans who would oppose Faunus rights at every available opportunity. It shouldn't have been a problem at all had humanity actually honored their commitments; Faunus were previously promised equal rights in exchange for their assistance during the Great War. Obviously, that hadn't come to pass. Many of the most successful Faunus had been outright massacred by human supremacists, and those same supremacists used the violence they themselvesinflicted as evidence that Faunus and humans could not coexist peacefully. Despite its name, even the subsequent Faunus Rights Revolution had done little more than prevent forced Faunus relocation to the mostly inhospitable continent of Menagerie.
Literal chains of ownership might have given way to chains of debt and poverty, but the fact remained that many Faunus were still treated as little more than slaves. Humanity was largely content with this state of affairs, too, and Blake could acknowledge that they were winning. The White Fang's attacks on discriminatory services and businesses might have improved conditions for some, but the concessions were granted from fear and with no small amount of accompanying resentment. If those businesses ever felt as though the White Fang could no longer enforce its threats, then they would once again refuse to serve Faunus or pay more than the absolute bare minimum they could get away with.
It was harder still to protect rather than simply destroy and intimidate. It wasn't unheard of for humans to assault or murder Faunus within the slums, secure in the knowledge that the police would only halfheartedly investigate what they saw as fighting among animals. Armed citizens could try to protect each other, but then the human authorities would view that as vigilante justice or even illegal gang activity. It wasn't even remotely fair and Blake had no idea what to do.
Honestly, Blake wouldn't be surprised—okay, not too surprised—if she returned to another full-fledged revolution once she finally managed to find Remnant again. Even with near-total media control arrayed against them, there was only so much abuse the Faunus would tolerate before they accepted the White Fang's solutions as valid. Adam alone was almost certainly lashing out at that very moment; controlling and stifling he might have been, but he'd still loved Blake in his own way. The fact that "his own way" had hurt Blake wouldn't stop him from blaming the SDC and humans for her apparent death.
If she could relocate her people off Remnant and to a world that didn't hate them, then Blake would do so in a heartbeat. That wasn't an option, though. She could personally avoid Remnant altogether and gather power for years or even a decade, but… well, was that really any different from abandoning everyone she'd ever fought for? And what if Blake wasn't around to stop the humans from attempting some new atrocity? She wouldn't be surprised if they escalated and again resorted to something as extreme as wholesale slaughter if Schnee Dust Company laborers ever successfully seized control of a mine, or if peaceful protests started to do more than mildly inconvenience those in power.
Blake could now access worlds possessing potential solutions unavailable to any other Faunus. However, she didn't actually know how she could escape the trap they'd collectively been condemned to. Assassinating members of the opposition? The White Fang had already tried that, and it simply turned the public further against them. Making Menagerie more fertile? Not one of Black's specialties. Bringing a superweapon back to Remnant and threatening the whole world? They would reflexively call her bluff even if they didn't realize it was one. Cursing an SDC branch office and those who worked within? ...That might actually work, but it would take quite a bit of practice before the curses wouldn't require daily maintenance.
Maybe she could look at the histories of other planes and see what had worked for them. Humanity's treatment of their own homeless and poor showed that they were only too willing to erect artificial barriers whenever they possibly could. Surely, at least some of those populations had managed to claw back equality despite the forces arrayed against them.
Kitty, kitty, lost and lone,
Kitty, kitty, on her own!
Kitty, kitty, far from grown,
Kitty, kitty, we will hone!
Kitty, kitty, break the stone,
Kitty, kitty, claim a bone!
Kitty, kitty, not yet known,
Kitty, kitty, still not shown:
"Tell us, kitty, where's your throne?"
Blake awoke with slightly hysterical laughter bubbling from her throat. Her throne? She'd never had one of those. Her parents might have been the leaders of Menagerie before her birth, but they'd stepped down to have her. The only throne she could ever claim would be one she built herself, and she had the feeling the voices were only too aware of that. Their promise to hone her hardly made sense otherwise.
...She couldn't say she would do a worse job than the council-managed figureheads who were currently ruling most of Remnant, though. Not when they were all too happy to treat her people as though they were slaves.
These voices are awesome. Also damn Blake you left White Fang to stop being a terrorist and now your considering cursing them!! It be kinder to go back killing them then to resort to some of the curses Black can have. Not to mention it probably being down grim down on there heads which would screw the people your trying to help.
We need to get Blake good friends stat she's regressing.
She was right. They might not even have noticed when she quietly slipped away. She honestly didn't mind at all; even if they thought they would only be joking, she wasn't in the mood for the likelihood of sexually-charged suggestions of repayment.
Blake could now access worlds possessing potential solutions unavailable to any other Faunus. However, she didn't actually how she could escape the trap they'd collectively been condemned to. Assassinating members of the opposition? The White Fang had already tried that, and it simply turned the public further against them. Making Menagerie more fertile? Not one of Black's specialties. Bringing a superweapon back to Remnant and threatening the whole world? They would reflexively call her bluff even if they didn't realize it was one. Cursing an SDC branch office and those who worked within? ...That might actually work, but it would take quite a bit of practice before the curses wouldn't require daily maintenance.
I appreciate reading a character who appreciates the insane difficulty of fixing a complex problem baked into an entire society. She's looking for true solutions now, though I'm a little skeptical that taking over the world counts as one.
I appreciate reading a character who appreciates the insane difficulty of fixing a complex problem baked into an entire society. She's looking for true solutions now, though I'm a little skeptical that taking over the world counts as one.
It probably sys something about the difficulty of what we're facing that the 'best' solution (and I use airquotes because it's still a terrible idea) I can think up is somehow finding a means to transfer most of the Faunus population to another Plane that isn't as inherently hostile as Remnant.
That would take a lot of land bonds though and not really do much to fix society itself.
I appreciate reading a character who appreciates the insane difficulty of fixing a complex problem baked into an entire society. She's looking for true solutions now, though I'm a little skeptical that taking over the world counts as one.
I think Yahtzee of The Escapist put it best, "obviously it was inspired by looking at the way the world is currently being run and realizing that a cartoon global dictator couldn't possibly make things any worse. Nor indeed could a world government headed by half a breakfast grapefruit."
Though in the same video he did also say, "just because I can envision a vast and more efficient society with myself as absolute dictator doesn't mean I want to go to all the trouble" so perhaps world domination isn't the best solution...
Also, ngl - Adam's white fang reminds me of a political comic. Ever seen the pic of two fat guys in suits, one riding a skinny white guy in overalls, telling him "watch out for that n*****, he wants to take your job" and the other one riding a skinny black guy in farm wear saying, "don't trust that guy, he thinks you're some n*****, stealing 'his' job"?
EDUT for clarity:
Adam thinks he's Che Guevara the revolutionary, but he's more Che Guevara the charicature modern people mock after his life.
Blake awoke with slightly hysterical laughter bubbling from her throat. Her throne? She'd never had one of those. Her parents might have been the leaders of Menagerie before her birth, but they'd stepped down to have her. The only throne she could ever claim would be one she built herself, and she had the feeling the voices were only too aware of that. Their promise to hone her hardly made sense otherwise.
...She couldn't say she would do a worse job than the council-managed figureheads who were currently ruling most of Remnant, though. Not when they were all too happy to treat her people as though they were slaves.
These voices are awesome. Also damn Blake you left White Fang to stop being a terrorist and now your considering cursing them!! It be kinder to go back killing them then to resort to some of the curses Black can have. Not to mention it probably being down grim down on there heads which would screw the people your trying to help.
We need to get Blake good friends stat she's regressing.
What? Are you saying the black voices fully supporting her political aspirations are not good friends?
Shame no you for suggesting that.
Or are you saying Blake needs to make her friends stat higher? If so, fully in agreement, she is still being incredibly rude to her friends who are talking to her.
I think Yahtzee of The Escapist put it best, "obviously it was inspired by looking at the way the world is currently being run and realizing that a cartoon global dictator couldn't possibly make things any worse. Nor indeed could a world government headed by half a breakfast grapefruit."
Though in the same video he did also say, "just because I can envision a vast and more efficient society with myself as absolute dictator doesn't mean I want to go to all the trouble" so perhaps world domination isn't the best solution...
You'll be learning the basics of artifice, but I wouldn't plan on something like teaching it—Artifice isn't really something you can pursue halfheartedly and have it be effective.
[...] Artifice wasn't something she could halfheartedly pursue alongside other magics. She persisted with the lessons, however; at the very least, she suspected that the knowledge would be highly useful for identifying any traps or relics she found in ruins.
EDIT: Most of the time at SS is already written, but there's some important connective tissue I still need to write once I have free time and energy to write again.
Fine, we'll kidnap an artificer, or buy a ton of tomes, it won't be ideal but we need someway for people to build up an infrastructure.
Though just to be clear all MTG magic is based on geomancy I'm not saying we need to study it as a specific art, that's just land bonds. The trick is figuring out how to teach normal people how to do something that comes so naturally to a walker.
It probably sys something about the difficulty of what we're facing that the 'best' solution (and I use airquotes because it's still a terrible idea) I can think up is somehow finding a means to transfer most of the Faunus population to another Plane that isn't as inherently hostile as Remnant.
That would take a lot of land bonds though and not really do much to fix society itself.
Are you envisioning the typical Faunus slave as an Aura user? My understanding of canon is that, while all the combat-oriented characters we watch have unlocked Aura, the typical person does not.