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Revolution (RWBY Planeswalker Blake)

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fictionfan said:
Or find a way to get rid of the Grimm then there will be so much available land for the taking that no one will know what to do with all of it.
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People have managed land expansions and slavery simultaneously just fine, It's hardly a barrier.

Skelm said:
Are you envisioning the typical Faunus slave as an Aura user? My understanding of canon is that, while all the combat-oriented characters we watch have unlocked Aura, the typical person does not.
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No, but they are an aura capable population and slaves have plenty of opportunities for trauma awakenings, or for the sheer workload to activate their aura.

So it's an aspect that was managed.
 
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fictionfan said:
Or find a way to get rid of the Grimm then there will be so much available land for the taking that no one will know what to do with all of it.
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Yeah, but then the parts of humanity that oppress the Faunus would likely try to seize it for themselves instead of just letting them be. The issue is getting them to stop or be in a position where they can no longer hurt the Faunus.
 
Could we pull a Tezzeret and just become a magic cyborg via implanting Artifacts in Blakeself? There are Artifacts that can filter mana, so why not put a miniaturised magic thingy in the arm, maybe some kind of Red crystal focus to spew flames from the palm?
One end filters any and all mana into Red mana, out the other end go flames, add a few adjustments, pay a Flesh Sculptor to put it into an arm and bam, personal flamethrower.
 
I suspect the amount of effort needed to create artifacts you can implant into yourself would be more effectively used in learning conventional magic.
And i say this as a someone who is usually the first to go for, improvements, in these situations.
Also having a personal flamethrower feels like it would be of fairly limited use. Better go for stuff we can actually use all the time.
 
Isn't Tezzeret from the plane with the magical metal that binds to you on a mystical level? I think some of his cyberization may be based on that, and thus not something other neo-walkers can do, not without stopping by Alara first anyway.

The point of learning artifice isn't to get good at it, though apparently it's one of those discipline you're supposed to dedicate yourself to so this whole logic chain got disrupted. The point was to get good enough to teach other people who aren't walkers, thus allowing menagerie, and the faunas, to build up a magical infrastructure to slip around the control structures the kingdoms have in place.

The tricky part is figuring out how to teach non-walkers to do basic MTG geomancy and form land bonds.
 
w34v3r said:
No, but they are an aura capable population and slaves have plenty of opportunities for trauma awakenings, or for the sheer workload to activate their aura.

So it's an aspect that was managed.
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Okay, but the hypothetical Penny-derived army all have awakened Auras, and for that matter combat training, this is what makes them better than the existing robot army. Forcibly controlling that is not at all the same thing as dealing with the occasional slave awakening their Aura.
 
Why would they have to awaken the aura of the slave caste AI? Or combat training? No, they'll keep their brains in easy to access and destroy immobile boxes, and use them to run various systems and drones. Or have all sorts of restrictions built into them.

EDIT: This is now considered a spoiler?
 
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I don't believe the discussion on a hypothetical AI army is productive, and is edging into hostility besides. Blake doesn't know anything about synthetic Aura users, and even with the canon metaknowledge that discussion is being based off, AI like Penny still couldn't be readily mass-produced on account of requiring a permanent sacrifice of Aura.

Eyeless said:
Could we pull a Tezzeret and just become a magic cyborg via implanting Artifacts in Blakeself? There are Artifacts that can filter mana, so why not put a miniaturised magic thingy in the arm, maybe some kind of Red crystal focus to spew flames from the palm?
One end filters any and all mana into Red mana, out the other end go flames, add a few adjustments, pay a Flesh Sculptor to put it into an arm and bam, personal flamethrower.
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Potential impracticality aside, Blake is highly uncomfortable with the idea of implanting external hardware into her own body or replacing any of it (outside absolutely necessary replacements like prosthetics). Sacrifices might need to be made in Blake's pursuit of power, but it's hardly something that she's going to utilize without an incredible reward.

(EDIT: Edited to remove spoilers.)
 
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EDIT: This became a spoiler somehow, not sure I get why. /EDIT

No one is talking about mass producing aura using bots, that's explicitly NOT what I was suggesting.

Penny is also a sapient machine intelligence which is a whole separate massive break through.

Intelligent machines getting enslaved is what I'm talking about.

We've seen that in lots of places.

And yes it's more than a bit ahead of ourselves, I just figured I'd mention it while we were on the subject of breaking people out of socio-econmic traps.

Also an aura using robot army could be mass produced, just need to add a few steps to slaughter houses, timber harvesting, and possibly euthanasia depending on how Atlesian culture approaches that subject. ... Ok THIS PARAGRAPH is about mass producing aura bots, but only in the context of clarifying how it is possible, it's just not what I was talking about earlier.
 
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Maybe put some of that under spoilers?

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I was more thinking about the second line that not everyone might know and that might come up later.
 
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I was more thinking of
Penny being a robot
This is meant to be accessible for people with zero setting knowledge.
And that means that even super early stuff can be a spoiler for a lot of people.
Personally i don't care about spoilers, but it is something that has come up before.
 
Valmond said:
This is meant to be accessible for people with zero setting knowledge.
And that means that even super early stuff can be a spoiler for a lot of people.
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Yeah, my bad. I used to be a RWBY fanatic who watched each episode within minutes of release, so I remembered everyone instantly going "she's clearly a goddamn robot." I forgot that people casually watching it these days probably wouldn't see the ridiculous depths of analysis that led to it basically being treated as fact by much of the fandom.

At any rate, as far as Blake knows, Remnant won't have access to properly sapient/sentient AI-tech unless she brings it back from the other Aura-using plane with all the dead worlds (MGLN). And speaking of dead worlds, she does feel like they might've needed some kind of terraforming at some point to mitigate their tendency toward repeated biosphere-killing. That might be useful for Menagerie if it's not lost technology and doesn't require a prohibitive amount of resources.

(EDIT 2: And does this trigger authorial alerts if editing it puts it over 120 words? I don't think it does, but if so, sorry!)
 
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Valmond said:
I was more thinking of
Penny being a robot
This is meant to be accessible for people with zero setting knowledge.
And that means that even super early stuff can be a spoiler for a lot of people.
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Alivaril said:
Yeah, my bad. I used to be a RWBY fanatic who watched each episode within minutes of release, so I remembered everyone instantly going "she's clearly a goddamn robot." I forgot that people casually watching it these days probably wouldn't see the ridiculous depths of analysis that led to it basically being treated as fact by much of the fandom.
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As someone who binge watched RWBY back when it was only two seasons, I recall that bit getting revealed incredibly fast. Though, I guess, RWBY is itself pretty short, so YMMV.
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(EDIT 2: And does this trigger authorial alerts if editing it puts it over 120 words? I don't think it does, but if so, sorry!)
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It didn't for me.
 
What kind of nastiness could we make as a blue-black focused artificer? Infiltration thopters? Stealth Golems? Phantom swords?
 
Valmond said:
Or are you saying Blake needs to make her friends stat higher? If so, fully in agreement, she is still being incredibly rude to her friends who are talking to her. :V
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Basically this.

But what I mean are the curses Black magic can have are kinda everything gets fucked. Unless that has changed been awhile since I played and look at it.
 
Ichigoblade22 said:
Basically this.

But what I mean are the curses Black magic can have are kinda everything gets fucked. Unless that has changed been awhile since I played and look at it.
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I'm pretty sure every color has "everything gets fucked" style things, as well as "fuck that one in particular" type things.
So, not really getting your meaning here.
 
Really whatever end effect you want any color can likely bring it about, but they are all going to use very different methods to get there.
 
While each color has their own specialities, i think the color is to a mostly a stylistic or philosophical choice.
Most things can, to my understanding, be acchieved through each color, if by different means.
 
Honestly, Fairy Tail has so many different magic styles and magic artifacts that terraforming Menagerie might just be a question of money. I wouldn't be surprised if we could just pay some group to make us a hundred or "turn desert into forest" items.

It would probably cose a lot, yeah ... but if I recall right some of the higher paying Job's/Quests in Fairy Tail start paying our absurd amounts of money, and if we are feeling confident enough in the future robbing Dark Guilds is always on the table.
 
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