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The sheer distance between this plan and "idol group saving Remnant through song (and this gun I found)" made me giggle uncontrollably.
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I'm certain we can find a way to combine these ideas.
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I don't see why you would think we can't be an Idol and a necromancer.
Ever seen Zombiland Saga? I haven't but i heard it...exist!
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I had some rather simplistic thoughts about this topic last night, but the basically boiled down to:
Step 1: create a barrier around Menagerie to keep humans and grimm out (maybe have the barrier attract and eat grimm to power itself? Sounds like Black/Blue to me).
Step 2: start a campaign of terraforming Menagerie into fertile lands.
Step 3: continually lay the foundation to needed infrastructure as livable area expands.
Step 4: reach out to willing faunus and transport them to Menagerie (sleep-deprived me thought it would be hilarious for entire dust mines to have theirslaves indentured workers just vanish overnight).
Step 5: leverage the anti-grimm barrier as a service to the outside world and commit various acts of politics to foster equality and trade.
As a side effect, SDC will have to staff their mines with human Atlas citizens, which will either get them bad press from exploitation (if they try to use humans as they did faunus) or have dust prices go up (by paying fair wages and providing a decent work environment).
This might be a bad thing for Remnant as dust is integral to fighting the grimm, but on the other hand the amount of suffering (which attracts the grimm) will decrease, hopefully also decreasing grimm activity.
This, of course, would further increase the demand for an anti-grimm barrier, even if it only hindered the weaker grimm.
This isn't something Blake could accomplish on her own, she would need allies to start the process and keep it going, and that means they will need the tools and skills to do so.
It also hinges on 1: the ability to keep enemies out of Menagerie, which would be difficult and 2: having something to barter with that the opponents can't just take through force.
It also made me think a bit about the SDC, they are basically war profiteers in a way. They promote suffering through their policies and use of labor, which attracts and/or empowers the grimm, and they profit by selling the products of that suffering to those who fight the grimm.
This would mean that it is in the SDC's interest to keep the war as even as possible in order to keep dust prices up as well as to justify their policies of forced labor, and through that the attitudes towards faunus, as they are needed by the SDC as forced labor.
That said I don't believe the SDC is the be-all end-all of faunus oppression, just the most visible entity that takes advantage of the phenomenon. Effecting widespread cultural change within a single lifetime is a herculean effort with many pitfalls and unforeseen consequences, and maybe that's why it's a challenge for a walker and her future allies, rather than any ordinary mortal.
It's a complex issue, and I'm certain I've missed at least a dozen things and implications. But such is life.
Step 1: create a barrier around Menagerie to keep humans and grimm out (maybe have the barrier attract and eat grimm to power itself? Sounds like Black/Blue to me).
Step 2: start a campaign of terraforming Menagerie into fertile lands.
Step 3: continually lay the foundation to needed infrastructure as livable area expands.
Step 4: reach out to willing faunus and transport them to Menagerie (sleep-deprived me thought it would be hilarious for entire dust mines to have their
Step 5: leverage the anti-grimm barrier as a service to the outside world and commit various acts of politics to foster equality and trade.
As a side effect, SDC will have to staff their mines with human Atlas citizens, which will either get them bad press from exploitation (if they try to use humans as they did faunus) or have dust prices go up (by paying fair wages and providing a decent work environment).
This might be a bad thing for Remnant as dust is integral to fighting the grimm, but on the other hand the amount of suffering (which attracts the grimm) will decrease, hopefully also decreasing grimm activity.
This, of course, would further increase the demand for an anti-grimm barrier, even if it only hindered the weaker grimm.
This isn't something Blake could accomplish on her own, she would need allies to start the process and keep it going, and that means they will need the tools and skills to do so.
It also hinges on 1: the ability to keep enemies out of Menagerie, which would be difficult and 2: having something to barter with that the opponents can't just take through force.
It also made me think a bit about the SDC, they are basically war profiteers in a way. They promote suffering through their policies and use of labor, which attracts and/or empowers the grimm, and they profit by selling the products of that suffering to those who fight the grimm.
This would mean that it is in the SDC's interest to keep the war as even as possible in order to keep dust prices up as well as to justify their policies of forced labor, and through that the attitudes towards faunus, as they are needed by the SDC as forced labor.
That said I don't believe the SDC is the be-all end-all of faunus oppression, just the most visible entity that takes advantage of the phenomenon. Effecting widespread cultural change within a single lifetime is a herculean effort with many pitfalls and unforeseen consequences, and maybe that's why it's a challenge for a walker and her future allies, rather than any ordinary mortal.
It's a complex issue, and I'm certain I've missed at least a dozen things and implications. But such is life.
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The Black side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some would consider...unnatural.
By which i mean, Lichdom is always an option.
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Black is actually really good at that sort of thing, so long as the method involves sacrifice. Lifegain is a common Black ability after all, you just need a way to convert Grimm lifeforce to farms and such.
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Well, ya'll got me thinking a bit on this instead of doing what I'm supposed to be doing, so your punishment is to endure me rambling at you.
I think the Faunus situation should be looked at in two parts, long term and short term. Long term, I think ideally, they want to be integrated into society and treated as equals. Building Menagerie into an unassailable and unaccessible lost "elf" kingdom in some ways works against this, and I think might be something of a mistake. OOC we know that the White Fang at least has a large enough strain of Faunus Supremacy for it to be represented a bit in canon. I'm not saying we shouldn't go for low hanging improvements for Menagerie, but we need to keep Blake's actual long term goal in mind.
Now, I'm going to mostly be framing this as something Blake might consider in character, with what she knows about Remnant and her vague understandings of magic (as in, rather than "Black and/or Blue does X so how can we use X" and instead "X sounds like it would solve a lot of problems, I should look for how to accomplish X with black/blue/artifacts/etc".).
To give Faunus as a whole increased standing and military might, without separating them from the Kingdom's culture and society (Menagerie and White Fang), is going to be the kinda obvious. The thing shared across the Kingdoms is the Great War. The Great War and the resulting culture of embracing individuality to the point where what I'd be comfortable calling a majority of the actual combat power of the kingdoms are technically utterly independent mercenaries called Huntsmen (even if in practice a lot of them might serve in their respective kingdom's militaries, or would be quick to sign up in case of war). In canon, this was Blake's personal trajectory even, but Faunus are still a minority, and at a guess seem to be under represented in the hunter schools. I suspect this isn't due to overt bigotry, but systemic bigotry. Long term, vastly increasing the number of Faunus huntsmen and leveraging that to force change.
Now, from canon there is fairly good evidence that the low number of Faunus we see as huntsmen/huntsmen in training is due to systemic bigotry, that is, the Faunus don't have the connections or resources to apply competitively to huntsman academies. We know the main pipeline into huntsman academies are the combat schools. Combat schools which likely require tuition as well as the family being able to spare the young teenage labor, and its more likely for overt bigotry to rear it's ugly head at this level. And many graduates from combat school don't reach the level of huntsmen in training. Because I think the most important thing for aspiring huntsmen is personalized training from a huntsmen level instructor. Ruby herself was kinda trash despite attending combat school until she got personal attention and instruction from her uncle qrow. All of team RWBY comes from a background that would privledge them towards getting specialized and personal combat instruction. Ruby and Yang are the daughters of huntsmen, the Schnees are rich enough to buy any training they need, and Blake's family is well connected enough to ensure what resources are available in the Faunus community/white fang would be available for her.
So for a normal Faunus, they have barriers to get into a combat school, they have barriers to getting selected for personal attention once in combat school both due to being relatively disadvantaged and it being really easy for bigots to simply choose the non-faunus to give more attention to, and they are very unlikely to have the resources for any sort of combat tutor. So before the application process for the Huntsmen Academies even starts, Faunus are disadvantaged here. Ozpin can use his connections and influence to ensure the academies are as fair and meritocratic as much as he wants, but it doesn't matter because the Faunus don't even get to the starting gate.
So the primary barrier here is one of resources. Mainly huntsman trainers, because access to them is gated behind connections (existing huntsmen training family, friend's kids, etc), money for combat schools, or money for personal tutoring. So, this brings us to...
Short term goals.
A lot of Faunus are honestly stuck in an untenable situation. They don't have time to wait for long term improvement years down the line, they need help now. They don't have money to leave, and they don't have guaranteed employment even if they do at their new destination. And they can't just pack up and homestead because the real limit on settlements in Remnant is defensibility. There are vast swathes of Remnant that are straight up not settled because the land is too indefensible and that land likely has untapped resources. If Blake can acquire just two things, she can give places for Faunus to go that will also produce money which can be used to move more faunus, and get the resources needed to get Faunus into Huntsmen Academies (as well as the influence money brings).
First, she needs some way to make a settlement defensible against Grimm, ideally even when she's not there. It doesn't even need to be perfect, just enough to move it from "indefensible" to "a defensible mining settlement." I admit this isn't easy, but for any native of remnant it makes sense to me for it to be something of the holy grail of wish fulfillment magic powers. Making herself personally stronger is all well and good, but this would be something I'd think she'd keep an eye and ear out for. The question "can this be used to help defend against the Grimm" seems a Remnant universal. Even Faunus exploitation is wrapped up in that framing (cheap dust means more ability to defend against Grimm, therefore Schnee business practices are justified!)
Second, but less critical would be the ability to sense dust deposits. Dust is the resource that is always in demand, since it's the literal foundation of modern kingdom society. I'm sure there are other ways to accomplish this than Blake personally able to do it, but if she can figure out a method it will make things a lot easier.
With those two things, Blake would be able to find dust deposits that are unexploited due to poor location, set up a mining camp, and cheaply and safely extract the dust, while also providing Faunus who are in the worst position (Schnee dust mining serfs) a place to go where they're guaranteed employment. The cherry on top would be undercutting the Schnee dust company and ripping the market out from under them. This would also provide the resources needed for long terms goals for societal change, as well as providing powerful tools to influence Remnant society directly (money, dust, developing cheaper and more scalable anti-grimm defense solutions).
tl;dr: To change Remnant Society (without becoming a dark queen, beautiful and terrible as the dawn), Blake needs money and influence, dust is the easiest source of sustainable money and influence on Remnant, the biggest barrier to dust mining is finding and then extracting it in the deathworld that is Remnant, therefore Blake should be focused on abilities and magic that can defend against or circumvent Grimm, and that could prospect for dust across a wide area.
I think this a reasonable and IC direction for Blake to be working towards that's more coherent than pursing personal power and hoping that somehow gets her somewhere until such a time as she starts getting access to really Outside Context abilities that would make her re-evaluate.
I think the Faunus situation should be looked at in two parts, long term and short term. Long term, I think ideally, they want to be integrated into society and treated as equals. Building Menagerie into an unassailable and unaccessible lost "elf" kingdom in some ways works against this, and I think might be something of a mistake. OOC we know that the White Fang at least has a large enough strain of Faunus Supremacy for it to be represented a bit in canon. I'm not saying we shouldn't go for low hanging improvements for Menagerie, but we need to keep Blake's actual long term goal in mind.
Now, I'm going to mostly be framing this as something Blake might consider in character, with what she knows about Remnant and her vague understandings of magic (as in, rather than "Black and/or Blue does X so how can we use X" and instead "X sounds like it would solve a lot of problems, I should look for how to accomplish X with black/blue/artifacts/etc".).
To give Faunus as a whole increased standing and military might, without separating them from the Kingdom's culture and society (Menagerie and White Fang), is going to be the kinda obvious. The thing shared across the Kingdoms is the Great War. The Great War and the resulting culture of embracing individuality to the point where what I'd be comfortable calling a majority of the actual combat power of the kingdoms are technically utterly independent mercenaries called Huntsmen (even if in practice a lot of them might serve in their respective kingdom's militaries, or would be quick to sign up in case of war). In canon, this was Blake's personal trajectory even, but Faunus are still a minority, and at a guess seem to be under represented in the hunter schools. I suspect this isn't due to overt bigotry, but systemic bigotry. Long term, vastly increasing the number of Faunus huntsmen and leveraging that to force change.
Now, from canon there is fairly good evidence that the low number of Faunus we see as huntsmen/huntsmen in training is due to systemic bigotry, that is, the Faunus don't have the connections or resources to apply competitively to huntsman academies. We know the main pipeline into huntsman academies are the combat schools. Combat schools which likely require tuition as well as the family being able to spare the young teenage labor, and its more likely for overt bigotry to rear it's ugly head at this level. And many graduates from combat school don't reach the level of huntsmen in training. Because I think the most important thing for aspiring huntsmen is personalized training from a huntsmen level instructor. Ruby herself was kinda trash despite attending combat school until she got personal attention and instruction from her uncle qrow. All of team RWBY comes from a background that would privledge them towards getting specialized and personal combat instruction. Ruby and Yang are the daughters of huntsmen, the Schnees are rich enough to buy any training they need, and Blake's family is well connected enough to ensure what resources are available in the Faunus community/white fang would be available for her.
So for a normal Faunus, they have barriers to get into a combat school, they have barriers to getting selected for personal attention once in combat school both due to being relatively disadvantaged and it being really easy for bigots to simply choose the non-faunus to give more attention to, and they are very unlikely to have the resources for any sort of combat tutor. So before the application process for the Huntsmen Academies even starts, Faunus are disadvantaged here. Ozpin can use his connections and influence to ensure the academies are as fair and meritocratic as much as he wants, but it doesn't matter because the Faunus don't even get to the starting gate.
So the primary barrier here is one of resources. Mainly huntsman trainers, because access to them is gated behind connections (existing huntsmen training family, friend's kids, etc), money for combat schools, or money for personal tutoring. So, this brings us to...
Short term goals.
A lot of Faunus are honestly stuck in an untenable situation. They don't have time to wait for long term improvement years down the line, they need help now. They don't have money to leave, and they don't have guaranteed employment even if they do at their new destination. And they can't just pack up and homestead because the real limit on settlements in Remnant is defensibility. There are vast swathes of Remnant that are straight up not settled because the land is too indefensible and that land likely has untapped resources. If Blake can acquire just two things, she can give places for Faunus to go that will also produce money which can be used to move more faunus, and get the resources needed to get Faunus into Huntsmen Academies (as well as the influence money brings).
First, she needs some way to make a settlement defensible against Grimm, ideally even when she's not there. It doesn't even need to be perfect, just enough to move it from "indefensible" to "a defensible mining settlement." I admit this isn't easy, but for any native of remnant it makes sense to me for it to be something of the holy grail of wish fulfillment magic powers. Making herself personally stronger is all well and good, but this would be something I'd think she'd keep an eye and ear out for. The question "can this be used to help defend against the Grimm" seems a Remnant universal. Even Faunus exploitation is wrapped up in that framing (cheap dust means more ability to defend against Grimm, therefore Schnee business practices are justified!)
Second, but less critical would be the ability to sense dust deposits. Dust is the resource that is always in demand, since it's the literal foundation of modern kingdom society. I'm sure there are other ways to accomplish this than Blake personally able to do it, but if she can figure out a method it will make things a lot easier.
With those two things, Blake would be able to find dust deposits that are unexploited due to poor location, set up a mining camp, and cheaply and safely extract the dust, while also providing Faunus who are in the worst position (Schnee dust mining serfs) a place to go where they're guaranteed employment. The cherry on top would be undercutting the Schnee dust company and ripping the market out from under them. This would also provide the resources needed for long terms goals for societal change, as well as providing powerful tools to influence Remnant society directly (money, dust, developing cheaper and more scalable anti-grimm defense solutions).
tl;dr: To change Remnant Society (without becoming a dark queen, beautiful and terrible as the dawn), Blake needs money and influence, dust is the easiest source of sustainable money and influence on Remnant, the biggest barrier to dust mining is finding and then extracting it in the deathworld that is Remnant, therefore Blake should be focused on abilities and magic that can defend against or circumvent Grimm, and that could prospect for dust across a wide area.
I think this a reasonable and IC direction for Blake to be working towards that's more coherent than pursing personal power and hoping that somehow gets her somewhere until such a time as she starts getting access to really Outside Context abilities that would make her re-evaluate.
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I'm in no way undercutting one of the posts that made me very happy (discussion and thoughtful analysis make my brain produce happy chemicals), but Blake believes that such a plan would also need to account for a defense against the inevitable SDC backlash. The SDC has been known to illegally harass or assault workers or locations of start-up companies that threaten their monopoly. They can't bring anywhere near the full force of the Atlas military to bear (that Blake knows of) for offensive operations, but assets such as corrupt huntsmen teams or "gangs" are not beyond their reach.
The few other Dust companies that exist aren't much better than the SDC in terms of exploitation—they're smaller, not morally better—and they survive by avoiding the SDC's sphere of influence. Even independent mining settlements tend to be strongarmed into effectively acting as extensions of the SDC.
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I do agree that self segregation is not the answer.
Fortifying Menagerie against grimm (and everything else) and making it more self sufficient is important, but that's only a starting point (or possibly midpoint?).
I'm thinking that what Remnant needs is a civil rights legislation (in every kingdom) equivalent, and then a fist of an angry god coming down on everyone who steps out of line.
A huge stimulus package (possibly funded with the aid of threats of the aforementioned fist of angry god?) aimed at Faunus directly, both in providing tuition, aid in getting homes, setting up businesses, hiring lawyers, and so on and so forth (also just hand them stacks of cash i guess).
Also we should rip out some of the wealth that has been extracted from them over the years back away from the rich.
Fortifying Menagerie against grimm (and everything else) and making it more self sufficient is important, but that's only a starting point (or possibly midpoint?).
I'm thinking that what Remnant needs is a civil rights legislation (in every kingdom) equivalent, and then a fist of an angry god coming down on everyone who steps out of line.
A huge stimulus package (possibly funded with the aid of threats of the aforementioned fist of angry god?) aimed at Faunus directly, both in providing tuition, aid in getting homes, setting up businesses, hiring lawyers, and so on and so forth (also just hand them stacks of cash i guess).
Also we should rip out some of the wealth that has been extracted from them over the years back away from the rich.
I was with you until this point.
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I was anticipating this point and was waiting for it to come up before addressing it, so I could at least get started on mowing the lawn, but I wasn't expecting it to come from Blake herself (or the QM.
). Needing enough power to defend against retaliation presumes she's at the point to invite that retaliation. That is, it wont matter unless she can get the first two abilities, and it's the one that I don't think needs special advocating for (SV gonna SV) or nessisarily requires outside context solutions (defending themselves against illegal attacks is a much more morally white thing for the violent members of the White Fang to being doing than attacking SDC dust shipments or assassinating SDC board members).
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Fair enough. I shouldn't project my desires for biologically integrated personal weaponry on fictional catgirls anyways.
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I'm not really comfortable about arguing over what counts as moral way to fight oppression, or about the issues that surround White Fang in canon, so i'll just say that i don't like the idea of just baiting others to attack you before fighting back against systemic oppression.I was anticipating this point and was waiting for it to come up before addressing it, so I could at least get started on mowing the lawn, but I wasn't expecting it to come from Blake herself (or the QM.
What we should do depends a lot on what we will be capable of, but if we have the ability to effectively defend ourselves, i would assume we will also be able of actively attacking, and i would rather be active than reactive if possible.
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How far does the SDC's reach really go in other kingdoms/continents? In Menagerie?
And if Blake could just sell the method or data or significant company ownership to someone else as powerful as the SDC (e.g. Ozpin?) that seems like it could address a lot of the issues.
Blake wouldn't have to (and probably shouldn't for efficiency reasons) handle much stuff herself.
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I mentioned the morals thing because I think Blake herself would feel better about it, but also the PR difference. Like, the SDC is a company full of workers doing "business." That it's exploitative and fundamentally different than most business operations they know doesn't matter, most people will compare their own businesses they interact with and their own jobs and the reasons they do those jobs with SDC members. Attacking the SDC makes the public sympathetic to them. Crushing illegal attempts to attack Hypothetical Faunus Company (HFC) with extreme prejudice on the other hand...those hunters/people had to choose to go out of their way to attack HFC holdings. That's different enough that Joe and Jane Remnant Worker is going to go "That's nothing like what I do" and the nearest comparison is going to be criminals. Of course, that's going to rouse the reactionary bigot faction of the police going on about "vile criminal vigilante justice, blah blah blah...", but at worst the public will view it as "criminals killing each other" rather than "White Fang Terrorists killing peaceful business persons, just like you!"
In terms of active vs reactive, it's not really fair to call it reactive if Blake is anticipating the retaliation to a HFC forming and preparing a response ahead of time. If the response manages to be total enough, it should actually be beneficial in a way that preemptively taking out the problem isn't, because it establishes a "cause and effect" both to the people the SDC needs to hire for this sort of thing (raising costs), and to anyone further up the supply chain who would wishes there was an alternative supplier than the SDC but is wary of retaliation themselves.
Of course, if we really do want to be more proactive, something to consider is the value of curses which merely lower quality of life of targets who would be instead viewed as sympathetic martyrs if they were normally assassinated or attacked...
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They have the strongest grip on Atlas, and Atlas's sphere of control is automatically an extension of the SDC's own sphere of control. They also have significant operations in Vacuo. They ship large quantities of Dust to Mistral and Vale and supplies from those kingdoms, but they're closer to "US cable company non-intereference agreements" than "total monopoly" for those.
Blake thinks that Dust is almost the only thing that Menagerie is self-sufficient in. They don't have any significant excess and they're lacking the exotic types that some Hunters and Huntresses rely on, but any SDC holdings would be gleefully destroyed in short order.
Blake wouldn't trust a human not to roll over when the SDC comes knocking, (EDIT) especially one powerful enough to need to weigh the good of her people against the good of that individual's other operations. As Huntsmen and Huntresses rely heavily on large amounts of synthetic Dust types, Ozpin would actually be on Blake's list of people whom she really wouldn't trust to have her company's best interests at heart. Not when it's weighed against an embargo from the major Dust companies.
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You have lot more, optimistic, view on how the PR works than i do. Though i guess it would largely depend on how Yrs wants to write it, we'll see when we are in the position to actually do something.
But in real life being peaceful, or allowing other side attack you, has usually not worked as well as one might hope.
Unless we gain control of the mass media, anything that happens can, and will, be twisted into anti Faunus propaganda.
And it is reactive, you are waiting for them to attack you before doing something.
Yes, you are prepared for it when it happens, but you are giving them the initiative on when, where, and how, it happens.
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If we do manage to install a notably good defense against Grimm into Menagerie, one that can't be used against people (at least without us doing something to it or giving it permission or something) ... that's a strong political tool in it's own right.
Especially if it's something that can't be recreated without us.
We might have to give a free sample to a settlement or one another kingdom because I'm not sure the people would notice enough how effective whatever our defense is, but once the desire is there we could either sell it for absurd amounts of money and use that to effect change, or, alternatively, agree to give it to them in exchange for political changes.
I'm not saying the second option would work, but if we offer it publicly it might start a discussion? Granted, every chance that makes things worse in the "how dare she hold countless lives hostage over political policies" sense, might make people angry at Faunus, but, I don't know, I'm just spitballing ideas here. Probably better to offer the policy change as an under the table type deal instead of going public with it. Probably.
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On the other hand, if we do manage to get large scale Grimm defenses alongside easy way's to get money, a publicity angle might be interesting. Make a massive improvement in the struggle against the Grimm, use the money to do other public good actions, get ourselves called the Hero of Remnant (they might not naturally call us that, but I'm sure we can find a reporter willing to take a bribe that would get the ball rolling), and just keep ourselves in the spotlight in a good way. This won't fix things obviously, but if we do manage to make ourselves a planet wide figure of admiration ... that's not nothing.
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Obviously, this is all way in the future and is making a million assumptions on how things go.
Especially if it's something that can't be recreated without us.
We might have to give a free sample to a settlement or one another kingdom because I'm not sure the people would notice enough how effective whatever our defense is, but once the desire is there we could either sell it for absurd amounts of money and use that to effect change, or, alternatively, agree to give it to them in exchange for political changes.
I'm not saying the second option would work, but if we offer it publicly it might start a discussion? Granted, every chance that makes things worse in the "how dare she hold countless lives hostage over political policies" sense, might make people angry at Faunus, but, I don't know, I'm just spitballing ideas here. Probably better to offer the policy change as an under the table type deal instead of going public with it. Probably.
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On the other hand, if we do manage to get large scale Grimm defenses alongside easy way's to get money, a publicity angle might be interesting. Make a massive improvement in the struggle against the Grimm, use the money to do other public good actions, get ourselves called the Hero of Remnant (they might not naturally call us that, but I'm sure we can find a reporter willing to take a bribe that would get the ball rolling), and just keep ourselves in the spotlight in a good way. This won't fix things obviously, but if we do manage to make ourselves a planet wide figure of admiration ... that's not nothing.
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Obviously, this is all way in the future and is making a million assumptions on how things go.
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Although i do enjoy seeing all this brain power working, i think we're looking a bit too much forward.
Instead, let's think about how to DESTR-I mean, deal with this Dark Guild that's causing us problems! I personally think we should boost our Blue because, you know, Counterspells be nice.
Instead, let's think about how to DESTR-I mean, deal with this Dark Guild that's causing us problems! I personally think we should boost our Blue because, you know, Counterspells be nice.
The other thing to keep in mind is that the SDC has long been selling the narrative that their methods are proper and necessary to produce the cheap dust Remnant enjoys.
This is probably not true, generally speaking better tech and safety gear are cheaper in the long run than chewing up workers like wheat in a mill. What makes this week viable/essential is all the cost cutting and mistreatment allowing the SDC to grind more workers for less penalty, and the short term costs of upgrading being a large upfront investment.
Furthermore this is probably well known at the upper levels and the SDC has to be on the look out for anyone trying to prove it wrong on any sort of scale.
My suggestion would be to study dust through the lense of a Mana user and see if we can't find a way to encourage dust to form in specific places we control. This would let us mine it without the problems of working underground and might also cause the SDC minds to dry up as we divert Mana flows.
That said this would probably require significant study of Mana, and dust, neither of which are likely on this world, and the lyrical nanoha world might let us play with Mana a bit, but it seems like they're not land bonders, even if they do jostle up against it somewhat.
So the best thing we could pick up for the Faunas here is some sort of remnant compatible magic use/artificers that we could teach.
This is probably not true, generally speaking better tech and safety gear are cheaper in the long run than chewing up workers like wheat in a mill. What makes this week viable/essential is all the cost cutting and mistreatment allowing the SDC to grind more workers for less penalty, and the short term costs of upgrading being a large upfront investment.
Furthermore this is probably well known at the upper levels and the SDC has to be on the look out for anyone trying to prove it wrong on any sort of scale.
My suggestion would be to study dust through the lense of a Mana user and see if we can't find a way to encourage dust to form in specific places we control. This would let us mine it without the problems of working underground and might also cause the SDC minds to dry up as we divert Mana flows.
That said this would probably require significant study of Mana, and dust, neither of which are likely on this world, and the lyrical nanoha world might let us play with Mana a bit, but it seems like they're not land bonders, even if they do jostle up against it somewhat.
So the best thing we could pick up for the Faunas here is some sort of remnant compatible magic use/artificers that we could teach.
JayTar
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This is a great idea, I like it.
How do you destroy the SDC? You don't attack it, you undercut its monopoly.
I would be less concerned by direct physical attacks and more by political and economic ones.
I don't doubt the soon-to-be-future Blake could fight SDC thugs.
But where will the dust be sold? The SDC could pressure shops into boycotting it. Pressure governments into banning it.
Or instead of attacking a well defended mining settlement, attacking shops.
Set off a dust explosion and publicly blame it on the poor quality control of non SDC dust.
Blake is going to need a lot of people. Consider taking over the White Fang?
Something like:
-Take over and clean up the White Fang.
-Infiltrate the SDC. Blake is/will be one sneaky cat.
-Gather talent, draw from existing White Fang recruiting apparatus and poach from the SDC and the general populous.
-Set things up, Lay a foundation for the mine. Plan shops, and transportation. Food supplies. Get your paperwork in order. Acquire mining machinery.
-Get workers. In the previous stages recruit a small number from the mines, which then go back to act as recruiters. However bad the mines are, its not going to be easy to get people to follow you into the unknown.
-Once dust production/sale starts, use infiltration of SDC to hamper their response. Use former White Fang assets to help defend against attacks.
-Profit?