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Respect Your Elders v2 - Galactic Boogaloo [Warhammer Lizardmen Quest]
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- warhammer warhammer 40k fantasy sci-fi science fantasy science-fantasy kitchen sink space fantasy isha kroak (warhammer fantasy) mazdamundi (warhammer fantasy) magic empire quest actions have consequences dinosaurs ia ia kroak fhtagn lasers lizardmen qm likes speculation and questions slann what could possibly go wrong?
thePUNisher
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The Infinite and the Divine. Best Necron book and basically the reason why I think Newcrons are way better than Oldcrons despite losing out a little in the cosmoc horror factor.
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At this point, basic equipment for our entire faction includes big slabs of obsinite armor enchanted to keep the weight manageable. It's a reasonable assumption that anything 'big' our faction has (starting with kroxigor and possibly saurus) is well armored enough to resist most small arms fire.
We did not choose to drop Gardakka into the ocean.
We chose to drop Gardakka onto the land. Specifically, the land occupied by his underling, Tunzuk, and his embattled amphibious vehicle expedition. Children of the Trolled Ones won the vote.
Now, this plan did not adhere to Grand Theft Warboss ideas, since I considered the wrath of all 97 million surviving orks to be a bit more than we'd be ready for in the time available. I am entirely amenable to trying again with a Grand Theft Warboss gambit next turn, if the orks have a warboss next turn.
Dude, we're in a setting where giant walking churches with guns along with robot skeletons who can warp time to rig a jury (look it up, that's canon and the only good thing in 40K Lore in the last 5 years) are a thing and big lizards are what breaks your SoD?
No. Lizards that would in excess of a kilometer tall is what would break my SoD if I wasn't well aware this is a Warhammer story, so physics is drunk, desperately drunk, and would like to remain so until things stop being crazy.
I mean, this. This is the sort of nonsense where I go 'well, it is 40k, so that makes sense', despite me specifically calling out it's nonsense.
It's 40k, it runs on the Rule of Cool at best, and it runs on the Rule of Horror if it's playing nice today.
thePUNisher
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Pretty much, I'm pretty sure @Xantalos said a Saurus could take a lasgun shot or two without armour and be relatively fine.
Makes sense since we'll be shaping up to become the tankiest faction bar the Necrons and maybe (big maybe mind you) the Nurglites. And even then their thing is being hard to kill compared to our "let the other army break itself in our defences" thing.
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I personally believe that 40k runs of Grimdark and rule of ridiculous/turn it up to 11000
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....what?
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'Ooniverse At War. Essentially a temporary WAGHHH buff activated against a specific target. Think of... Total War Warhammer 2's updated waghh mechanic. More troops spawned faster, generating more Waghh energy, etc etc, all until the target's dead or they've failed.
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I have just been assuming Thunder Lizards are nuclear powered. If you do that then the plasma blood, nuclear fire breath and ability to eat anything makes sense. The size is in line with some other living things floating around in the lore and is fully within reach of 40k advanced materials. Really their characteristics are fully explainable in setting simply by them being engineered creatures, if pretty impressive ones.
Thinking about Thunder Lizard biology in setting, they likely run on a biological plasma reactor system, meaning they actually don't need to eat much material at all to sustain their energy needs. Their diet likely consists mainly of raw material for growth/maintenance and possibly "ammunition" for their breath, reducing required intake to levels that are quite a bit more logistically sustainable than fueling something that massive with chemfuel.
Incidentally have a recent bit of official Titan size comparision.
Thinking about Thunder Lizard biology in setting, they likely run on a biological plasma reactor system, meaning they actually don't need to eat much material at all to sustain their energy needs. Their diet likely consists mainly of raw material for growth/maintenance and possibly "ammunition" for their breath, reducing required intake to levels that are quite a bit more logistically sustainable than fueling something that massive with chemfuel.
Incidentally have a recent bit of official Titan size comparision.
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Ekzentric Lohner
I miss Wildstar...
I thought the "Mazda" part was just "wisdom", as in Ahura Mazda (Ahura = "Lord of", Mazda = "Wisdom"). Assuming the "mundi" part is basically the genitive case of the Latin word mundus (meaning the world/universe/heavens/cosmos) with a regular "i" at the end instead of "ī", as in axis mundi (meaning world axis, cosmic axis, world pillar, center of the world, and so on), then Mazdamundi would mean "Wisdom of the world/universe/heavens/cosmos" or "Cosmic/heavenly/universal/worldly wisdom".
Noroboro
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I like your interpretation a lot better than Mazdamundi being a Corn fan
Kaboomatic
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Oh hes totally a corn fan
That's canon to the quest
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I feel like I have to come out and proclaim my own stupidity, because my younger self always thought that Mazdamundi was just a more liberal way to write the phonetic version of Master Mundi (the name of that Jedi Master in Star Wars). Granted that guy has a corn head, so some things might transcend time and space.
Ekzentric Lohner
I miss Wildstar...
New headcanon: back when Mazdamundi was a newly-spawned toad-mage, just starting to learn from his elders from the First Spawning, he first made a name for himself by inventing popcorn.
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"Then Kroq-Gar becomes Ascended Kroq-Gar as light from the Hand of the Gods surrounds his ancient body. The mighty Saurus lord purifies the air around him and catches Lord Skrolk's weapon with the Hand of the Gods, crushing the mighty weapon in his armored fist. Kroq-Gar then impales the Skaven on his spear and lifts him up for all to see with a triumphant roar."
So. I just found this and wanted to ask wether Super Saiyan Kroq-Gar is Canon. I mean... wouldn't this:
"Hand of the Gods - The glowing gauntlet integrated into Kroq-Gar's armor is a powerful tool, allowing the ancient saurus to blast his foes from afar with searing light. Learning to replicate it would be a potent boon to any lizardman equipped with such a system. Effect: Unlock Deathlight Gauntlets, progress towards full powered armor. Difficulty: Hard - 0/150"
path the way towards every Saurus Warrior going full "This isn't even my final form!"?
Nightchill
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"Sorry this function is not available to you, you must be at least 800 years old to access to this feature"
-lizard siri probably
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The End Times are such a mass of retcons and writer lore fails I would be incredibly cautious about drawing things from them.
Besides I am pretty sure Kroq-Gar could just crush Skrolk in a duel anyway without extra power-ups, he is much older and has a much longer list of personal combat achievements.
Besides I am pretty sure Kroq-Gar could just crush Skrolk in a duel anyway without extra power-ups, he is much older and has a much longer list of personal combat achievements.
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...IIRC that 'a suburban house' thing would not be Titans, as Imperial Knights are not technically Titans proper - iirc that distinction is whether or not the machine can fit occupants other than the pilot. Knights have only room for the cockpit while Titans have additional crew. I think Warhounds are usually slightly smaller than apartment blocks? Like, in height only, they're obviously much smaller in weight. And Imperators are much taller, they're just hunched over due to their back armature.
EDIT: When I say 'apartment block' I mean something like this. A Warhound titan is as tall as the building, while a Knight's cockpit is not that much larger than the human it contains, relatively speaking.
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@Xantalos I know you've mentioned it before in passing that you were thinking of making the Titans of the Imperium bigger as well yous should. In lore it states that Imperator titans (which are one of the two Emperor class titans and are the same size as Warlord titans) are disputed in size with some estimates of 55m to 140m, which looking at modern structures and other Titan like things in fiction like Gipsy Danger from PR which is stated as being 260 feet (79m) this seems pathetically small.
It's just a suggestion but for all large scale things like titans or even the scale of troop sizes like the Astra militarum, Space marine chapters and possibly even Space marine legions that you take GW's numbers and throw another 0 on the end because GW doesn't really seem like they understand big numbers.
Hell entire Hive planets have rebelled which can have billions per city and trillions planet-wide and GW says 10 million guardsmen and 100 space marines take it no problem.
I know it's fictional and all power scaling turns to shit wit multiple authors over time but that just seams vastly unbelievable. Plus it'll probably be more intense later on when we finally do come face to face with the Great Crusade whether it's lead by the Big E himself or by Horus.
It's just a suggestion but for all large scale things like titans or even the scale of troop sizes like the Astra militarum, Space marine chapters and possibly even Space marine legions that you take GW's numbers and throw another 0 on the end because GW doesn't really seem like they understand big numbers.
Hell entire Hive planets have rebelled which can have billions per city and trillions planet-wide and GW says 10 million guardsmen and 100 space marines take it no problem.
I know it's fictional and all power scaling turns to shit wit multiple authors over time but that just seams vastly unbelievable. Plus it'll probably be more intense later on when we finally do come face to face with the Great Crusade whether it's lead by the Big E himself or by Horus.
thePUNisher
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To be fair, if I remember it right Skrolk had some bullshit mad skaven science majig with him that turned Grymloq into goo with one shot. So it wasn't just Kroq being weaker than a Skaven not named Queek Headtaker.
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The MAWLR used in Killzone is 280m tall for reference but that's more of a mobile anti-orbital weapons platform.
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space marines have plot armor
in this quest quite literally
lets say that there is a 1/10000000 chance of a enemy leaving an open perfect for a single strike that kills him
the space marine will find it thanks to plot armor
is not invincible,but it makes any 1 vs 1 scenario tilt on the space marine favor unless their enemy is literally 10 times better than them,and even then there is a small chance for them to win
>maxed out LCK stat for the win
maybe some sort of spell or ritual that takes away their ''luck'' stat or inverts its effect (making them more prone to fucking up,like with the lamenters)?
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Xantalos
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I basically had this going on already without really realizing it, but yeah I'll be going with this interpretation. Fits with how Quango have some kind of ultracold superfluid for their circulation.I have just been assuming Thunder Lizards are nuclear powered. If you do that then the plasma blood, nuclear fire breath and ability to eat anything makes sense. The size is in line with some other living things floating around in the lore and is fully within reach of 40k advanced materials. Really their characteristics are fully explainable in setting simply by them being engineered creatures, if pretty impressive ones.
Thinking about Thunder Lizard biology in setting, they likely run on a biological plasma reactor system, meaning they actually don't need to eat much material at all to sustain their energy needs. Their diet likely consists mainly of raw material for growth/maintenance and possibly "ammunition" for their breath, reducing required intake to levels that are quite a bit more logistically sustainable than fueling something that massive with chemfuel.
Incidentally have a recent bit of official Titan size comparision.
This also fits and makes much more sense.
But this, though? This is true greatness.
What about the Necron attack on the Wookie?
And yeah, the general sizes of titans and such will probably be altered to be bigger. I may also tweak thr sizes of some of your units at some point and justify it with magic, much like I do everything else. We'll see.
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I mean, I suspect their luck isn't that good, if only because then they would be pretty much invincible. If you can make one-in-ten-million improbable events break in your favor consistently, you're well beyond the point at which any remotely plausible level of opposing force can stop you.