I mean, the secret weapon is described as Quakers, so I can only imagine it's this Ork's feverish dream to circumnavigate the world. It'll been a harrowing journey for these pioneering Amish Orks as they load up their wagon-boats and travel the lands.
I don't think Tempest Prism or Metropolis Preservation should be priorities right now. We should be avoiding the defensive fights which would necessitate the city-shields and the orkish air force isn't enough of a threat in my opinion t necessitate dedicating almost a third of our available slann power to resolving the issue. Not at this point. I think going for something like Secrets of the Fungus might be more immediately valuable (not for the war effort directly, but in ensuring we are better able pacify former orkish territory). Or perhaps the Spear of Tlanxla (or more cheaply, the Hand of the Gods research, both would seem to add strong force multipliers to hero units).
Void-Exchanged Interlocking Spell Theory, or VEIST for short, is essentially the research and development of vacuum interaction with magic on a wide scale. The GM has said that this will be an essential tech for things such as spaceship building, hence why we're planning in studying it...eventually. The exact timing doesn't matter too much as far as we know, but we do know that it's either a keystone tech or a near-keystone tech like the spawning research was.
Considering the Orks have demonstrated the ability to damage our cities, I personally disagree regarding the Metropolis Preservation research. If nothing else, I'd like to get it out of the way so that similarly to how the Spawning research automatically had spawning pools added to all our new cities, hopefully all our new cities will have defensive force field established from the beginning. As for the Tempest Prisms, it's entirely possible that they won't be very useful in the immediate future, but if we take it then we'll have dedicated Anti-Air units available in the future without having to do a whole lot of research. It's another thing I think is better done sooner rather than later.
The total damage done has been two cities with light damage, which I believe takes up a total of two city actions to repair. I would much rather spend a 15th of our city actions on repairing damage to our cities then spend a quarter of our slaanpower on preventing said damage.
Gotta agree, we need to buff ourselves militarily to the level where we don't need a few hundred Slann fielded in a battle to have good odds of winning before trying to tackle impossible level projects.
An understandable desire, but I have a few issues.
First, Nix has stated my first point eloquently. We're still at war with the Orks. Now is not the time to dedicate a major chunk of our researchers on non-military or nonessential projects.
I admit, the damage is indeed light and can be easily repaired. I simply see researching the city shields as doing some investing now so that we have to pay fewer costs later. Even if our cities take damage in the future, I think that if we have the shields, the damage will be lesser and more easily fixed when compared to if we didn't have the shields.
Why can't we? It's a pretty cheap tech, isn't it? I was planning on it. That and ulgu skinks.
Yeah. Those both sound important- though we definitely want to build eight more cities this turn, and that's a respectable action sink in its own right.
Not a bad idea, I'm going to be reviewing the situation before suggesting a battleplan.
Hm, something like that. We have lizardman garrisons in what was once the northern part of Gardakka's territory, along the coast, so yes. I think we should do something like that.
Something like that... except, uh, I think the mek's operations are closely tied in with the effort to recolonize the northern continent. This may not actually be two separate operations.
I don't think a geomantic ritual would be the best choice directly. Geomantic rituals tend to be very blunt instruments for conceptually simple things. Things like "split the ground on a massive scale," "teleport this billion ton rockpile over there," or "punch this giant megadaemon in the groin-equivalent." Where you're doing one thing and you're doing it very forcefully, and where doing it a little too hard isn't really a problem.
Note that controlling a Thunder Lizard is actually a pretty slannpower-intensive exercise, on the same scale as a geomantic ritual.
This almost certainly doesn't leave enough slannpower to help out with things we need. I recommend skipping at least the Tempest Prism research (not urgently required for the current war effort; ork aircraft are very much a managed threat).
You misunderstood me, I said that cause I thought it was locked for the time due to the formating being kinda whack before Xan edited it. But yeah we should do it, right now even, it will make Glyph Tech, space ships, and a whole lot of stuff easier.
I'd say it will be useful on account of the Aya probably trying to go on the offensive after the Orks are dealt with, I'd recommend switching the Tempest Prism for Hand of the Gods tho, on account of giving us more close-range power and opening up the way for power armour research next.
Given that turns don't happen in super-rapid succession, there's no rush. Let's take our time to hammer out draft plans and converse instead of creating a giant bandwagon, OK?
Our casualties this turn were relatively light; I'm not too worried- though I reserve the right to revisit that opinion while doing war planning.
We are in possession of the stone, and Isendral almost certainly doesn't know where it is or probably that it exists. She has made no obvious efforts to seek it out, hasn't asked us about it, et cetera. I'd rather avoid that.
None of those are short term necessities. We've pretty well managed the ork air power threat; they're still relevant but we can fend them off with limited effort. This is not a good time to undertake a huge research project on them.
Notably, the Ayacmanik seem to have no trouble doing sweep-and-clears of the orkoid ecosystem. Just sitting back and letting them do the work may not be a bad idea; the main problem then is making sure we can hold our own cities and that they don't get mobbed by Insane concentrations of, like... tens of millions of Ayacmanik warforms.
We're still on a war footing where the only weapons we should develop are those of immediate foreseeable use... And frankly our hero units are more than powerful enough to crush our enemies.
THIS. Oh God so much this. Gardakka is now in full control of the orks and has forces about as strong as they ever were. If we leave him alone or mostly alone for a turn he's gonna rebound and it's gonna take a LONG time to bring him down.
Intentional, yeah - city action stuff tends to involve a lot of wide-scale telekinetic work, which doesn't scale as well across generations as pure research or blasty power does.
No moratorium, but it is probably a good idea to give your plans some thought just due to the complexity of the system that's developed over time. I just keep the voting period open until the thread reaches broad consensus.
We are finally approaching the cusp point where we can reasonably hope that one more turn of effort will push the orks over into irreversible decline. This is NOT a good time for us to spend a lot of slannpower on "we don't need this right now, sure, but it'd be convenient to have it at some indefinite future time" projects.
One thing I should clarify is that you won't immediately tell Isendral about the stone even if you both research it and talk to her this turn. Long story short you've got mutual trust meters, Lizardmen->Isendral and Isendral->Lizardmen, both going from 0 to 10. Increasing her trust of you is the way to get her to view you more favorably, trust you with sensitive info, possibly assist you militarily, etc. Vice versa for you to her, and telling her about the stone is at least a 6 on that scale.
You make a valid point, what if instead of spending a lot of slannpower on better defences, we spend it on stuff to better kill the works with? Like Glyph Weaponry, leaving 450 more Slann for us to spend towards killing the works.
I am not afraid of the ayacmanik. We can't fuck the orks over in a turn or two via traumatizing their oversoul after all. As long as we don't lose slann then any casualties the bugs do are expendable in my eyes as long as we don't have to fight the orks at the same time. Crush the orks and if the bugs get too aggressive eat the losses and throw slann at the problem after the orks are beaten.
There you have to strike a balance between "better weapons" and "actually using slannpower to more directly kill the orks." 200 slannpower on weapons research doesn't necessarily give us better results than 200 slannpower on siccing ten Thunder Lizards on the enemy.
I think your reaction doesn't line up with my point very well.
Nope, you remember correctly.
Nope. Blessed Items and ... the mini-daemon one are generalist divine projects, so they apply evenly to any and all gods you have. Think of them more as deciphering theory and method for a specific thing, which the various cults of the gods can then tune to their own preferences.
I, uh, forgot about those. Lotta thread I gotta cover to collate everything, it's inevitable I'm gonna miss something. Gimme a bit to ruminate and I can give you a slann cost (unless I already did in the past, in which case just show me said quote) and then edit it into the turn after work.
Ngl I laughed.