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Respect Your Elders v2 - Galactic Boogaloo [Warhammer Lizardmen Quest]

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Spartakrod said:
Dissecting a Primarch is almost certainly not going to end as well for you as you think it might.

Trazyn has one and he very pointedly doesn't let Szeras poke it for pretty good reason.
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I quite agree with you that it may not end up as well as it could and certainly I acknowledge that one of a million things could go wrong.

But my statement is more a repudiation of everyone who's is super interested in allying with or seeking to ally with the Primarchs/Imperium. Seeking it even if we would have to disadvantage ourselves to do so, or go through some extremely convoluted hoops. All in an effort to 'save' a polity or individual they have prior attachments too.

I foresee our interactions potentially being much less... benevolent than that.

In regards to the Trazyn primarchs though. I hav'nt read the infinite and the divine. But does he stop Szeras because primarchs are ridiculously plot armoured/are engines of destruction. Or because it's one of a set of twenty (in near mint condition no less!) which he can likely never replace should it be lost?
 
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I was strangely under rhe impression that slann 4th gen and up were already primarch level destructive. Perhaps we can make geomantic wardens (greater daemons) instead.
 
Ok so i was using incorrect quotes generator to entertain myself because im a fuckin ape

And i found this

Artists: I need you to draw a Slann in high heels. I NEED to see this
 
...that really wouldn't be too far outside the realm of that existing Magical Girl Kroak picture that's somewhere around here.
 
Y'know, I've got a quick question. I know that in Warhammer fantasy, priests of Sigmar can use holy spells and all. Can follows of Sotek and Ayoltl use their own spells or make them? I know Ayoltl follows can likely make mist and summon dead spirits but what other spells could they have? And what can Sotek priests use other than reincarnation in Teninhuan's case? One of our research options is to summon minor daemons under our gods control so would it be possible in Ayoltl's case to summon a dead hero since the souls of dead Lizardmen go to him in the Warp?
 
Noroboro said:
Y'know, I've got a quick question. I know that in Warhammer fantasy, priests of Sigmar can use holy spells and all. Can follows of Sotek and Ayoltl use their own spells or make them? I know Ayoltl follows can likely make mist and summon dead spirits but what other spells could they have? And what can Sotek priests use other than reincarnation in Teninhuan's case? One of our research options is to summon minor daemons under our gods control so would it be possible in Ayoltl's case to summon a dead hero since the souls of dead Lizardmen go to him in the Warp?
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There definitely are divine lores for Sotek and Ayotzl, although priests capable of genuine spellcasting are roughly the same proportions as they are in most factions - that is, somewhat less prolific than your arcane spellcaster skinks, but still there. I'm not likely to come up with definitive iterations of what spells and whatnot each lore would contain, though - don't like limiting myself like that. I would imagine Sotek's stuff would involve stuff like 'becoming super buff', 'induce blood frenzies in your allies/fear in enemies', and 'summon snek', among other things. Ayotzl's ... forcefully silencing people, summoning mist, maybe summoning ghosts (which'd be distinct from bringing your dead back once you get the hang of that particular barrier). Just ideas off the top of my head.
 
Ulgu casters/ayotzl priests get some nice synergies then. My original vision for Ayotzl specifically had in mind the 'summon ghosts of long-slain Lizardmen to fight once more' but QM is QM.
 
I have a sneaking suspicion that Ayotzl may have something to do with restoring the Relic Priests back into active status. Actually, on that thought.

@Xantalos If we do ever revive the Relic Priests does Lord Kroak get revived as well given he's off Old Ones know where in the galaxy? Conversely, if he finds a solution before us will he share it?
 
Alo357 said:
I have a sneaking suspicion that Ayotzl may have something to do with restoring the Relic Priests back into active status. Actually, on that thought.

@Xantalos If we do ever revive the Relic Priests does Lord Kroak get revived as well given he's off Old Ones know where in the galaxy? Conversely, if he finds a solution before us will he share it?
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I suspect that regardless of the reason, Kroak will be the last Relic Priest to be revived.
 
If the other Second-Generation Slaan returned/Lord Kroak was revived/the Relic Priests were revived would Lord Mazdamundi still be our faction leader?
 
ScottishMongol said:
If the other Second-Generation Slaan returned/Lord Kroak was revived/the Relic Priests were revived would Lord Mazdamundi still be our faction leader?
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Barring something really weird happening, yeah, though faction leader ain't really the right word for whats happening. Yall aren't playing as Mazdamundi, you're playing as the lizardmen. Or, perhaps more accurately, the slann. The initial vote wasn't so much 'who leads the faction', as much as 'who stays behind'.

Also, just in case people don't know, I'm xantalos' beta, and not like just some random dude who thinks he knows all this stuff.
 
I'd still likely use Maz as the face of the faction, yeah. Even though first gens will obviously be more powerful and aged and whatnot, for the most part their attitudes would be such that Mazdamundi would effectively have the deciding 'vote' in most slann debates, which is how their action plans get hashed out. The fact that this method mirrors you guys debating in the thread proves nothing.

Kroak would share a revival method if he found one, but he currently isn't looking since it's more advantageous for him to be dead with what he's up to. He will be revived at some point though, and the spirit realm will quake.
 
Xantalos said:
I'd still likely use Maz as the face of the faction, yeah. Even though first gens will obviously be more powerful and aged and whatnot, for the most part their attitudes would be such that Mazdamundi would effectively have the deciding 'vote' in most slann debates, which is how their action plans get hashed out. The fact that this method mirrors you guys debating in the thread proves nothing.
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Also at this point a lot of the first-gen slann, resurrected after so long, might very well just look at Mazdamundi, give him a reassuring hearty telekinetic backslap and say "We can tell you've got this, little buddy, carry on."

I mean, he's successfully managed to be primus inter pares of the lizardmen, and their de facto eldest and most active leader, for several thousand years. Brought them back from the brink, in a real sense. Whereas none of the First Spawning have been active in that role since the Great Catastrophe.

Just because they're First Spawning and he's Second, and so they know more Old One lore and have more raw magical power, doesn't mean they're automatically superior when it comes to administering the lizardmen's impending interstellar empire.

Kroak would share a revival method if he found one, but he currently isn't looking since it's more advantageous for him to be dead with what he's up to. He will be revived at some point though, and the spirit realm will quake.
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Temple Guard Saurus Spawned For Purpose:

"Mister Kroak is spending the year dead for tax purposes. I am his bodyguard, which means I am responsible for guarding his body. However, I am not responsible for guarding your body, so take it away before it gets damaged."
 
Now i'm waiting for a revived Krork to tell Maz.

"Hey man, I think you'd really benefit from spending the next century dead. Dwelling in the spirit realm is great for your conceptual understanding of inter realm theory and shyish - hysh interplay ."

And mazdamundi just nods solemnly like that's the most normal thing in the world to say. And like he wasn't just told to (super politely and constructively) go and die
 
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Funnily enough I suspect what'll happen eventually is most of the slann end up spending the majority of their time dead for research and daemon-fighting efficiency, leaving the impression to outsiders that the slann are either some other form of lizardmen god or just some excuse their leaders have fabricated to justify their erratic actions.
 
Xantalos said:
Funnily enough I suspect what'll happen eventually is most of the slann end up spending the majority of their time dead for research and daemon-fighting efficiency, leaving the impression to outsiders that the slann are either some other form of lizardmen god or just some excuse their leaders have fabricated to justify their erratic actions.
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I regret making this shitpost
The Virgin Emperor vs The Chad Slann

Virgin Emperor: Cant even switch from being alive to dead at a whim

Spent 10k years as a mouldy vegetable

Not a frog

The Chad Slann:
Can switch from being alive to being dead whenever they want and actively get stronger because of it

Have been going from strength to strength since arriving on Mochantia

They are frogs, the chaddest living beings ever created.
 
I keep cracking up at the idea of Lord Kroak recommending the other Slaan spend some time being dead, like your friend who won't shut up about the time he went on a juice cleanse.
 
Hm
Im reading about the obsinite pits and a thought ocurred:

Could we use this method to create/transmute other materials like gold and bronze? Cause i can forsee the Lizardmen operating in mineral poor systems or without the time needed to develop mines and infrastructure to best equip our armies.

@Xantalos
 
Who would win?

All the carefully laid plans of the immortal Emperor of mankind for his twenty (one) sons made of minor warp deities fused to bodies expertly crafted by all of earth's best geneticists?

or

One anxious girl?
 
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SideVermin13 said:
Hm
Im reading about the obsinite pits and a thought ocurred:

Could we use this method to create/transmute other materials like gold and bronze? Cause i can forsee the Lizardmen operating in mineral poor systems or without the time needed to develop mines and infrastructure to best equip our armies.

@Xantalos
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Sort of, but there isn't as much of a need for it since you've got Chamon priests. Your gold and bronze aren't so much regular metals as alchemical mixtures that have similar starting points as RL gold and bronze. This means you can afford to make them through more self-sustaining reactions and processes rather than using geomantic energy to power the whole thing.

Spartakrod said:
Who would win?

All the carefully laid plans of the immortal Emperor of mankind for his twenty (one) sons made of minor warp deities fused to bodies expertly crafted by all of earth's best geneticists?

or

One anxious girl?
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Black Library's writers after they get called in to write more books detailing the consequences of this plot development, obviously.
 
Xantalos said:
Sort of, but there isn't as much of a need for it since you've got Chamon priests. Your gold and bronze aren't so much regular metals as alchemical mixtures that have similar starting points as RL gold and bronze. This means you can afford to make them through more self-sustaining reactions and processes rather than using geomantic energy to power the whole thing.


Black Library's writers after they get called in to write more books detailing the consequences of this plot development, obviously.
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I'm sure of all the reasons people predicted that the Primarchs got scattered, "The Emperor's girlfriend has second thoughts about this whole conquering the galaxy thing" was not high on the list.
 
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