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Respect Your Elders v2 - Galactic Boogaloo [Warhammer Lizardmen Quest]

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Out of curiosity, would anyone voting for Pactli, Ayotzl, or Nantli'atl mind expanding on their reasons for choosing them over other options? Personally I don't find a lot of their imagery symbolism very compelling and I'm interested to hear what appeals about them to other voters.
 
CuttleFish2.0 said:
Out of curiosity, would anyone voting for Pactli, Ayotzl, or Nantli'atl mind expanding on their reasons for choosing them over other options? Personally I don't find a lot of their imagery symbolism very compelling and I'm interested to hear what appeals about them to other voters.
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I designed Pactli, and Nantli'atl is very similar.

Spooky crocodile swimming through/made of fog has a very Cheshire Cat by Tim Burton feel and I like it.
 
[X] Nantli'atl, the White Crocodile, the Fog of Death and its Guardian
[X] Pactli, the Fog Hunter

CuttleFish2.0 said:
Out of curiosity, would anyone voting for Pactli, Ayotzl, or Nantli'atl mind expanding on their reasons for choosing them over other options? Personally I don't find a lot of their imagery symbolism very compelling and I'm interested to hear what appeals about them to other voters.
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I'm mostly voting for these because I like their permanent reincarnation aspects. I also like the imagery of a crocodile shrouded in mist.
 
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CuttleFish2.0 said:
Out of curiosity, would anyone voting for Pactli, Ayotzl, or Nantli'atl mind expanding on their reasons for choosing them over other options? Personally I don't find a lot of their imagery symbolism very compelling and I'm interested to hear what appeals about them to other voters.
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I like the idea of a motherly Death God, and crocodiles work very well for that - they're scary, but they're also really attentive parents.


Also, I tried to write Nantli'atl in such a way as to make it possible for her growth to really turn Chaos's "trap the Slann in fog" plan back on them. It's not a focus, but it's there in the background as a stretch goal, if we ever decide to invest the effort.

*The minds of the Slann are trapped in the Fog*

"Mwa ha ha, just as planned..."

*The Slann have altered the Fog to protect and be empowered by all Lizardman souls, and it's spreading all over the Warp and turning it back into the Sea of Dreams*

"... Not as planned! Not as planned!"
 
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[X] Pactli, the Fog Hunter
[X] Nantli'atl, the White Crocodile, the Fog of Death and its Guardian
[X] Calquetzqui, the Great Architect, the Builder-in-Shadow
[X] Tlanalotl the Dawn Butterfly
[X] Ayotzl, the Mist Swimmer

An interesting thought: spawning pools can act as memetic portals between the immaterium and the materium. Basically souls are carried to the afterlife where lizardmen society and cities are essentially mirrored with those in the materium. And lizardmen souls can travel through the pools similarly to a webway gate. This can theoretically strengthen the presence of all lizardmen gods in the materium and create almost webway-like structures in the warp to fight the influence of chaos actively.
 
looseanon said:
[X] Pactli, the Fog Hunter
[X] Nantli'atl, the White Crocodile, the Fog of Death and its Guardian
[X] Calquetzqui, the Great Architect, the Builder-in-Shadow
[X] Tlanalotl the Dawn Butterfly
[X] Ayotzl, the Mist Swimmer

An interesting thought: spawning pools can act as memetic portals between the immaterium and the materium. Basically souls are carried to the afterlife where lizardmen society and cities are essentially mirrored with those in the materium. And lizardmen souls can travel through the pools similarly to a webway gate. This can theoretically strengthen the presence of all lizardmen gods in the materium and create almost webway-like structures in the warp to fight the influence of chaos actively.
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Interesting idea but wouldn't that also make them a potential highway for invasion if daemons somehow breach it? I don't relish the idea of bloodletters crawling out of a spawning pool instead of Saurus.
 
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[X] Calquetzqui, the Great Architect, the Builder-in-Shadow
[X] Ayotzl, the Mist Swimmer

[X] Nantli'atl, the White Crocodile, the Fog of Death and its Guardian
 
[X] Ayotzl, the Mist Swimmer

[X] Nantli'atl, the White Crocodile, the Fog of Death and its Guardian

I have returned from my temporarily banishment to the ultra-realm! anyway, glad to see were getting a death-god now...we just need to either get 600-800 slann power on it within the next few turns to get a full on god of death to handle the lizardmen after-life when chaos starts mass-production of daemons and the like.
 
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If the deamons have breached our afterlife, we have much bigger problems than the fact that they're in our spawning pools.
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Debateable.

Usually the best way to keep daemons out isn't to build an impenetrable fortress in the Warp. It's to exploit the fact that daemons actually have trouble getting back out of the Warp and into the material universe unless someone goes out of their way to summon them.

Provide them with a ready-made portal from the Warp (where they are strong and can act freely) to the material universe (where they can't), and you've made their job a lot easier.

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[] Ayotzl, the Mist Swimmer

[] Nantli'atl, the White Crocodile, the Fog of Death and its Guardian

I have returned from my temporarily banishment to the ultra-realm! anyway, glad to see were getting a death-god now...we just need to either get 600-800 slann power on it within the next few turns to get a full on god of death to handle the lizardmen after-life when chaos starts mass-production of daemons and the like.
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It seems like that's done more with city actions than with slannpower actually; the slann may craft the narrative that goes into making a new lizardman god, but it's the belief of the regular lizardmen and their devotional acts that make the god exist.
 
Simon_Jester said:
It seems like that's done more with city actions than with slannpower actually; the slann may craft the narrative that goes into making a new lizardman god, but it's the belief of the regular lizardmen and their devotional acts that make the god exist.
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Ayup. Gods are a paradox in that knowing how they work actually makes you less able to shape them.

Oh, I should mention I figure I'll close the vote on Friday. If I stop being lazy as shit I should have a good chunk of Wonder's Rebirth done by then and be able to plan out the next bit.
 
Xantalos said:
Ayup. Gods are a paradox in that knowing how they work actually makes you less able to shape them.

Oh, I should mention I figure I'll close the vote on Friday. If I stop being lazy as shit I should have a good chunk of Wonder's Rebirth done by then and be able to plan out the next bit.
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'Proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.' taken literally eh?
 
Do we have any Skaven bodies stored or prisoners/specimens in stasis to study when we have a rainy day?

I am just curious as to what we could learn.

Not now, since I know we have other commitments for the moment.
 
You know, the Elder Slann who are out roaming with their own armies dont have access to the geomantic web, so that means they dont get spawning pools, or the various magic powered bullshit that the Lizardmen proper get. So they have to spawn all their lizardmen manually.

They are probably going technological hard and fast to compensate, to make every lizardman count. This probably also means they are using robots alot to do a lot of the cannon fodder stuff for them and saving the lizardmen for when shit hits the fan.



The neat thing is that these machines are actually weaponized terraforming platforms. So yeah. Probably get directed by a Saurus commander in orbit.
 
Professor Vesca said:
You know, the Elder Slann who are out roaming with their own armies dont have access to the geomantic web, so that means they dont get spawning pools, or the various magic powered bullshit that the Lizardmen proper get. So they have to spawn all their lizardmen manually.

They are probably going technological hard and fast to compensate, to make every lizardman count. This probably also means they are using robots alot to do a lot of the cannon fodder stuff for them and saving the lizardmen for when shit hits the fan.



The neat thing is that these machines are actually weaponized terraforming platforms. So yeah. Probably get directed by a Saurus commander in orbit.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the roaming Slann, as we've been unlocking the new Skinks, have been effectively been building up a mobile geomantic network with just a large variety of spellcasters. They'd act as useful amplification tools and act as a potent force multiplier over time if they build up the equivalent of a Slann Black ship travelling force.
 
Even if they haven't been, when we get into contact, they'll get the ability to call forth new Skink Priest types.
 
You can generally assume that they'll know how to make everything you have, and likely some additional specializations on top, but lack the necessary force to act as you will.

Oh, god vote will close in either about 5 hours or tomorrow morning if discussion happens to pick up again.
 
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