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Respect Your Elders v2 - Galactic Boogaloo [Warhammer Lizardmen Quest]

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Xantalos said:
Technically you could tweak Sotek to be a god more in line with all of Ghur, then you'd only need seven. Then another one could be representing Qhyash, and the last one would be ... I dunno, geomancy or whatever? It's a valid strategy, is my point.
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Maybe, but everyone else seems to be making plans that involve other things, so on a meta level my odds of convincing enough people to go along with it seem low.

But...hm, if sotek can be repurposed into a wind-purifier then it might be workable.

AbZHz101 said:
So we should default to kicking down the door? Like the other Slann Leaders are doing?
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They're more...sneaking around doing random stuff while looking for the old ones. They're certainly NOT kicking down the door to tzeentch's fortress or anything crazy like that.
 
Can't wait until we encounter the Imperium, so we can start getting concrete info to fuel the Emperor vs Mazdamundi matchup. In my head they're about equal magically/psychically with perhaps a slight edge to Maz, but the Emperor would win a fight due to having sheer physical prowess to back that up as well. On an empire scale I think Maz takes it in terms of both research capability and empire management.
 
and while they could go fuck up the dark elves on the rare occasion a high gen slann woke up and it wasn't required to have them help not make everything blow up, like when Mazdamundi roflstomped over Naagarond to go recover some artifact or whatever, there wasn't really anything they could use in Naagaroth to meaningfully change their situation
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Actually that was Lord Tepec-Inzi @Xantalos
 
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Convenient Collection of God Ideas - bioticgrunt
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    • bioticgrunt said:
    Name: Kro'el-Tuxin, Incarnate of Heavens, the Great Seer

    Representation: a constellation

    Domains: Fate, Order, and Stars

    Methods of Worship: Star reading, meditation, burning of incense, use of basalt mirrors in scrying, civilization, and self-reflection

    Favored Foes: Tzeentch, anarchist

    Blessing Thematics: visions of the future and potent readings of the stars (rare)
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    bioticgrunt said:
    Name: Natlel

    Representation: Tomes and Scrolls

    Domains: Magic, Knowledge, and Sages

    Methods of Worship: The gathering, recording, and researching/understanding of knowledge. Crafting of magical objects and the creation of new magical spells, quantity and quality of saved objects/spells can vary. Destroying the servants of tzeentch and their tainted knowledge. Provide knowledge and wisdom to those in need of it in a cryptic manner. Ritual ceremonies that most include any offering of knowledge

    Favored Foes: Tzeentch, sorcerers

    Blessing Thematics: Holy smite- through the proper ritual(s) Natlel unleashes a magical blast that can shatter armies or destroy entire planets. Divine magic- Natlel grants his clerics access to powerful magic spells.
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    bioticgrunt said:
    Name: Zon-Qro'ana'ec, Hunter in the Dark, the Cunning One, Spite of Lizardmen

    Representation: A bow, a dagger dripping poison

    Domains: Darkness, Hunting, and Cunning

    Methods of Worship: Hunting and sacrificing of dangerous prey (beast or animal), the death of enemies to the Lizardmen, killing your prey through cunning and skill, and never letting to know of your presence

    Favored Foes: enemy leaders, enemy spies

    Blessing Thematics: One with darkness-user is cloaked in darkness that hides their form, enhanced stealth, enhanced assassination
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    @Xantalos what do you think of these god ideas
     
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    • bioticgrunt said:
    @Xantalos what do you think of these god ideas
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    Xantalos said:
    I do hate to not answer a question, but Fezzes' subsequent comment was mostly on the ball. Not that I don't mind speculating about this stuff, but ultimately I don't have any better insight into what makes cool gods than you guys do - all I can really do is give a suggestion about what kind of god those combinations of words makes me imagine. But that's by no means a better interpretation than what yours might be - they are very broad descriptors after all, more meant to give an easy outline of what this or that god is about rather than completely define it.
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    Something I thought of that could be cool, but definitely isn't a priority--

    @Xantalos what is the situation with relic priests and Temple Guard? I ask because if there aren't enough currently assigned to them to deal with them all hypothetically being rezzed then we will eventually need more. They could solve that by just casting the "spawn TG" spell, but those will be new TG and if we can squeeze a fifth gen to fill out the ranks now we can have maximum experience for their bodyguard.
     
    Fezzes said:
    Can't wait until we encounter the Imperium, so we can start getting concrete info.
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    I will say that I'm not really interested in the emperor verses Mazdamundi. If I had to do a verses battle it would be ​
    Kroak verses the emperor because he basically is the emperor of lizard kind from 40k who succeeded in saving his dying imperium.
    I will say that even if by some surprise the emperor is stronger he would probably lose if only because the geometric web and the armies of the Slann will be far to strong for him to overcome by the time we encounter them.​
     
    bioticgrunt said:
    @Xantalos what do you think of these god ideas
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    They all seem pretty good. What do they look like, though?

    SurpriseMe said:
    Something I thought of that could be cool, but definitely isn't a priority--

    @Xantalos what is the situation with relic priests and Temple Guard? I ask because if there aren't enough currently assigned to them to deal with them all hypothetically being rezzed then we will eventually need more. They could solve that by just casting the "spawn TG" spell, but those will be new TG and if we can squeeze a fifth gen to fill out the ranks now we can have maximum experience for their bodyguard.
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    The temple guard complements for the Relic Priests guard the tomb complexes, though they do tend to get poached for actual living slann when their bodyguards die, so now that the spawning spell is unlocked they can be immediately restocked, so to speak.

    AbZHz101 said:
    Don't Temple Guard need equipment too?
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    They do, but they currently operate on a kind of seniority-based basis where older temple guard get more and better equipment. This'll be fixed once Forging Districts are researched and you can actually make equipment in bulk.
     
    "Chaos is the prime example of this, even moreso than the orks. In their respective domains the chaos gods are nigh-omnipotent, but this doesn't mean they can actually accomplish anything outside of the restrictions placed on their actions."

    Kinda? I mean the problem of chaos is their own nature: chaos cant colaborate in anything because by their own nature mean they will try to backstab anyone, they are the scorpion and everyone else is the frog.

    In fact that can be the reason they need the everchosen or lord of end times: they need someone not bound to a narratives and with actual capacity choices to actually comand their forces because they know full well they will try to screw up.

    So, archeron is not just the leader of chaos, is their nanny and jannitor.
     
    Razios said:
    "Chaos is the prime example of this, even moreso than the orks. In their respective domains the chaos gods are nigh-omnipotent, but this doesn't mean they can actually accomplish anything outside of the restrictions placed on their actions."

    Kinda? I mean the problem of chaos is their own nature: chaos cant colaborate in anything because by their own nature mean they will try to backstab anyone, they are the scorpion and everyone else is the frog.

    In fact that can be the reason they need the everchosen or lord of end times: they need someone not bound to a narratives and with actual capacity choices to actually comand their forces because they know full well they will try to screw up.

    So, archeron is not just the leader of chaos, is their nanny and jannitor.
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    Yeah, they may have infinite power within their domains but they can't accomplish anything outside of them, so they invest a mortal agent with power from all four of them so it balances out and the influence from one god can't overwhelm the agent and make them into yet another daemon prince, which isn't capable of taking significant action on behalf of chaos like an everchosen is.

    Seem pretty rules-lawyery? That's a classic sign of monsterdom when you start seeing behaviors like that cropping up. Where a person will simply take an action, a monster has limits on their behavior, and can at best imitate it by skirting and bending the rules they operate by.
     
    MTB said:
    So Chaos is more rules-lawery than standard mortals?
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    Or less so, in a paradoxical way; Water can't flow up hill, not normally, unless there's something very odd going on. So if water is sapient and hates the guy on the top of the hill, the guy on the hill is usually, if not safe, not always in danger. But if the water empowers bucketman, lord of all buckets, to carry it up the hill, the guy on the top of the hill is in trouble. It's in water's nature to go downhill; it's Lord Bucketman's nature to use it to do things it was never meant for.
     
    Guys can we create dragons. I mean come on we should make space dragons as escorts to our city ships. And the older they are the larger they grow and become capital ships after a few thousand years.
     
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    Xantalos said:
    A possibility you could currently create with your sub-breed making capabilities.
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    Who needs flying dinosaurs when you can have flying Saurus warriors instead?

    Also, this idea's been bugging me for awhile now, but Chameleon Saurus and Chameleon Kroxigor.

    It's this image of bunch of Orks or Chaos Cultists or something walking through a cave, when suddenly everything goes dark thanks to a Ulgu Skink Priests, and out of the darkness dozens of pairs of reptillian yellow eyes appear everywhere the invaders can look! The walls have eyes, the ceiling has eyes, the floor that isn't actually stone/earth has eyes! They walked right into an ambush of Chameleon Lizardmen!
     
    Nix's Warden said:
    Who needs flying dinosaurs when you can have flying Saurus warriors instead?

    Also, this idea's been bugging me for awhile now, but Chameleon Saurus and Chameleon Kroxigor.

    It's this image of bunch of Orks or Chaos Cultists or something walking through a cave, when suddenly everything goes dark thanks to a Ulgu Skink Priests, and out of the darkness dozens of pairs of reptillian yellow eyes appear everywhere the invaders can look! The walls have eyes, the ceiling has eyes, the floor that isn't actually stone/earth has eyes! They walked right into an ambush of Chameleon Lizardmen!
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    I see that imagery, and raise you something even more terrifying:

    Chameleon Slann :V
     
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