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Renascence: A Homura Quest

Honorifics or Western-style Titles? I've used both before, which is bothersomely inconsistent

  • Japanese Honorifics (-san, -sama, -dono, -chan, -kun, -senpai, etcetera)

    Votes: 12 33.3%

  • Western Titles (Mister, Miss, job titles, Lord, Lady, etcetera)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Use whichever works better for a given sentence.

    Votes: 24 66.7%
  • Total voters
    36
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LostDeviljho said:
I don't like Saber much, but that's not really something she can be blamed for, seeing as life isn't an RPG game.
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I don't know about that - Servants have character sheets, complete with alignment and Alphabetical* rankings. Life in Fate-verse might well be an RPG.

*: Are there any canon characters who actually see Servant stats as something other than the E-EX scale that we see? Saber (and Rin?) references people using color or animals instead, but do we know of anyone who uses them?
 
Entropy Judge said:
I don't know about that - Servants have character sheets, complete with alignment and Alphabetical* rankings. Life in Fate-verse might well be an RPG.

*: Are there any canon characters who actually see Servant stats as something other than the E-EX scale that we see? Saber (and Rin?) references people using color or animals instead, but do we know of anyone who uses them?
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Shirou. Everyone else (supposedly) sees them differently, but Shirou quantifies via stat sheet because teenagers and video games.
 
Entropy Judge said:
*: Are there any canon characters who actually see Servant stats as something other than the E-EX scale that we see? Saber (and Rin?) references people using color or animals instead, but do we know of anyone who uses them?
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This is just one of those things that Nasu forgot, like 'Heroic Spirits with more than one NP are rare, some don't have any.' So, in practice, no, there isn't any.
 
BlackHadou said:
Think of it this way. Godhand allows for the existence of negative hp. One Godhand life restores 1000 hp. If Herks hp is still negative (or 0), it pops another life and keeps healing. If hp is 0 or less and no more lives, he dies.

This is why Gae Bolg can only ever kill him once, even boosted. It deals damage equal to Herks HP.
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An excellent way of describing it.
 
[x] Throw spear at giant's head.
-[x] Utter vulgar expletives regarding its mother to get its attention, perhaps launch another spear upon its skull. Insult its masculinity.
-[x] Attempt to outpace the creature and recover your ally. Escape for this is no beast you are able to slay on your lonesome.
-[x] Insult its masculinity once more for good measure and retreat valiantly from this battle.
 
JarringToaster said:
Yes, considering that Berserker can crush Saber like a grape if she took too long trying to do something like shave off extra lives.
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... wow you would let a danger become even more dangerous because there's risk?
Crow said:
...She just killed Shesshoumaru.

While battling Herc.

And only has a destroyed arm to show for it.

Fucking beast.

We need to step it up.
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Homura could have been able to be a beast if you all hadn't went for social at quest start.....
 
Crow said:
With a couple of gems that have total bullshit levels of magic power that were invaluable and had decades of effort into it.

And remember that Rin is a really really fucking good mage.
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Really fucking good. She dueled Caster well enough to bring it to a melee fight with those gems. She just fucked up at the end.

As for fighting Herc, she killed him once with 5 gems yeah, and Ilya said she could have done another 4-5 lives worth of damage if she had used twice the amount. Unfortunately Rin needed to burn 5 gems to be able to survive being point blank of Heracles for that long. So she fucked up at the end again.

Funny thing is, if she didn't burn the ruby healing Shirou she probably could have outright killed Heracles with it.
Girl's kind of OP for her age.
Look to the Left said:
Anyone got an idea of Herc's weakness that Koko can take advantage of?
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Heracles' relative weaknesses:
-No magic resistance. His legend backs it up. He can't do shit to magic that doesn't do damage, and is somewhat weak to miracles due to Hera hating him. Caster stonewalled him with a gravity spell, even if she couldn't kill him.

-Reluctance to hurt women and children. He hesitates a bit. This is not usually enough to help you.

-Weakness to fire and poison. Due to how he died, he's too tough to DIE from poison, but it puts him in full body pain, and finished him off by setting him on fire. Translated to Nasuverse, I'd read it as the damage never stopping, so despite his regeneration, he never actually gets the resistance boost since the attack isn't over.

-Weakness to mind affecting spells. Specific legend vulnerability. But he goes insane, so now you need to deal with extra berserk Heracles.

SpeckofStardust said:
... ... ... So if saber had done the smart thing and kept on attacking him before he fully regenerated she would have won..... my God what RPG gamer would have not just keep on hacking/killing until the regeneration stopped..... :facepalm: Well I have lost a large chunk of respect that I had for Saber.
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Because of Shirou. Saber's combat is very mana intensive, she had to be conservative with it due to Shirou being incompetent. Hit, assess the damage, then hit again.
 
veekie said:
-Weakness to fire and poison. Due to how he died, he's too tough to DIE from poison, but it puts him in full body pain, and finished him off by setting him on fire. Translated to Nasuverse, I'd read it as the damage never stopping, so despite his regeneration, he never actually gets the resistance boost since the attack isn't over.
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I don't recall this coming up anyway in F/SN canon. Can you point me towards the source?
 
LostDeviljho said:
legend weakness. That's why it's conjecture.
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Sounds like we shouldn't count on it, then, since 'Especially weak to poison' wasn't actually a thing in Herc's legend (It's more that Hydra Venom fucks up everything, Chiron gave up his immortality because it hurt too bad), and it never came up in Nasu canon.
 
LostDeviljho said:
I will note that Medea was fucking around there.
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Even so, a fucking around Caster treating her as anything but a speedbump.

LostDeviljho said:
legend weakness. That's why it's conjecture.
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Basically.

Though it DOES seem to fit with how God Hand works, since he becomes resistant to the attack after he regenerates the damage, but since poison is ongoing damage, he never finishes regenerating.

Aside from you know, the difficulty of getting poison through his skin.
You may very well need Hydra poison since you still need that A rank to penetrate.
 
Look to the Left said:
Is this the only time Unlimited Guns Works will work?

In reference to the no sell of Walpirgisnach.
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Nah, Unlimited Gun Works is what happens if we ever reach a situation in which Homura Akemi, Mami Tomoe, and Chris Yukine are all in the same place :V
BlackHadou said:
This is why Gae Bolg can only ever kill him once, even boosted. It deals damage equal to Herks HP.
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Can't he also achieve a kill by using his runes to rank up his Strength to A and then stabbing Herc with regular attacks?
 
SpeckofStardust said:
Homura could have been able to be a beast if you all hadn't went for social at quest start.....
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You see, we now have that beast of a meguca as an ally.

Social for life.

And remember that a lot of problems in meguca meduka was because of horrible communication skills.
veekie said:
Even so, a fucking around Caster treating her as anything but a speedbump.


Basically.

Though it DOES seem to fit with how God Hand works, since he becomes resistant to the attack after he regenerates the damage, but since poison is ongoing damage, he never finishes regenerating.

Aside from you know, the difficulty of getting poison through his skin.
You may very well need Hydra poison since you still need that A rank to penetrate.
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Oh hey look! we have an enchantment that makes our spear be fire everywhere!
 
[X] ATTACK!
-[X] Conjure Spear x5
-[X] Conjure Chain
-[X] Enchant them: Flaming, homing.
-[X] Conjure the spears around the monster and throw them at the monster´s Head, left arm and right arm with each spear having a chain tied to it.
[X] With the last remaining spear rush towards his gigantic arm and hammer it down his elbow while enchanting it with a [Explosive] property, fill it with magic and set it to explode right in his elbow, evaporating his arm.
-[X] Use chain barrier to protect yourself and nanoha from the explosion, as soon as you´re able grab her and retreat to a safe place, cleanse as soon as possible while making sure she´s okay.
 
[X] ATTACK!
-[X] Conjure Spear x5
-[X] Conjure Chain
-[X] Enchant them: Flaming, homing.
-[X] Conjure the spears around the monster and throw them at the monster´s Head, left arm and right arm with each spear having a chain tied to it.
[X] With the last remaining spear rush towards his gigantic arm and hammer it down his elbow while enchanting it with a [Explosive] property, fill it with magic and set it to explode right in his elbow, evaporating his arm.
-[X] Use chain barrier to protect yourself and nanoha from the explosion, as soon as you´re able grab her and retreat to a safe place, cleanse as soon as possible while making sure she´s okay.
 
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[X] ATTACK!
-[X] Conjure Spear x5
-[X] Conjure Chain
-[X] Enchant them: Flaming, homing.
-[X] Conjure the spears around the monster and throw them at the monster´s Head, left arm and right arm with each spear having a chain tied to it.
[X] With the last remaining spear rush towards his gigantic arm and hammer it down his elbow while enchanting it with a [Explosive] property, fill it with magic and set it to explode right in his elbow, evaporating his arm.
-[X] Use chain barrier to protect yourself and nanoha from the explosion, as soon as you´re able grab her and retreat to a safe place, cleanse as soon as possible while making sure she´s okay.
No. of Votes: 5
Crow
Look to the Left
MrLZRS
SpeckofStardust
TriggerBlaze345
[X] ATTACK!
-[X] Conjure Giant Spear, try to cut his arm/hand off.
No. of Votes: 1
Entropy Judge
[x] Throw spear at giant's head.
-[x] Utter vulgar expletives regarding its mother to get its attention, perhaps launch another spear upon its skull. Insult its masculinity.
-[x] Attempt to outpace the creature and recover your ally. Escape for this is no beast you are able to slay on your lonesome.
-[x] Insult its masculinity once more for good measure and retreat valiantly from this battle.
No. of Votes: 1
AnonymousRabbit
Total No. of Voters: 7

Currently, you will be following the plan in green.
 
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