Renascence: A Homura Quest

Honorifics or Western-style Titles? I've used both before, which is bothersomely inconsistent

  • Japanese Honorifics (-san, -sama, -dono, -chan, -kun, -senpai, etcetera)

    Votes: 12 33.3%
  • Western Titles (Mister, Miss, job titles, Lord, Lady, etcetera)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Use whichever works better for a given sentence.

    Votes: 24 66.7%

  • Total voters
    36
  • Poll closed .
The wheel shape on the front of Homura's Soul Gem allows her to switch bodies to those of other Magical Girls she was close to in previous loops.
The wheel shape on the front of Homura's Soul Gem does not allow her to switch bodies to those of other Magical Girls she was close to in previous loops.

In order for Homura to transform into / switch bodies with other Magical Girls she was close to in previous loops, she requires a physical item related to that person.

The physical items related to previous iterations of Magical Girls mentioned in the above truth are among those items lost from Homura's Shield Inventory, including but not necessarily limited to Madoka's Ribbons, Kyouko's Cross, and a Teacup from Mami.
In order for Homura to transform into / switch bodies with other Magical Girls she was close to in previous loops, she requires a physical item related to that person.

The physical items related to previous iterations of Magical Girls mentioned in the above truth are among those items lost from Homura's Shield Inventory, including but not necessarily limited to Madoka's Ribbons, Kyouko's Cross, and a Teacup from Mami.


Edit: There was an error when posting the first Red. This has been corrected.
 
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Eldritch entities that are not witches have attempted to beach into the real world through witch barriers in previous loops.

Homura has fought with these entities before.


I know this isn't super important, but I'm curious to see the answer provided.
 
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I don't know; she seems to be a mechanic more than a healer, so while Healing might be related to her natural magic, it's also quite likely that instead of 'healing' she's 'repairing' - which might not have an actual physical effect we need to worry about in the Quest's timeframe, but which could have psychological or long-term effects that would, at some point need mitigation or correction.
I was referring to Ruki's own Soul Gem needing cleaning, not any long-term effects of how the healing/repairing works. Even if what she's doing to Nanoha, be it repairing or healing, is her natural magic, how long she's been at it, and how much she still needs to do to both Nanoha and herself, leaves me worrying about her needing a clean. Explaining why that questioning vote is the way it is to see if anyone else would go with it or if they'll give arguments against it that can make me decide on another course of action.
 
Caressing the border between the curse and Nanoha's flesh with delicate threads of Magic, you think of Madoka. You imagine her, slowly dying in your arms, like she has so many times before.
'That's incredibly unhealthy, Homura.'
You will protect her.

Purple light flares as thin glass walls form between Nanoha's flesh and the curse, enclosing it, before compressing into a clear case, the curse writhing visibly inside of it.
Yep. as is keeping on going with no rest at all. Sanity's low too.

Really would have been better to let Kyoko take the wheel for a while.
 
Eldritch entities that are not witches have attempted to beach into the real world through witch barriers in pervious loops.

Homura has fought with these entities before.


I know this isn't super important, but I'm curious to see the answer provided.
So, using the term "Eldritch Entity" without defining it was an incredibly bad idea, because the potential meanings are so broad, and "breach" is a bit vague, too. Also, be really careful about the typos; I don't think you meant "water-permeable loops."

Yep. as is keeping on going with no rest at all. Sanity's low too.

Really would have been better to let Kyoko take the wheel for a while.
Yeah. Kyouko ALMOST fought Homura on this, because of how low her sanity is right now.
 
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Yeah. Kyouko ALMOST fought Homura on this, because of how low her sanity is right now.
Am sad that that lost.

Also, looked back on the tally and saw the weirdness of veekie's vote. Not sure if that cost veekie an actual vote. Looks like the built-in tally still uses the problematic code of including any [] with an X in it, regardless of where it is in the line.
 
So, using the term "Eldritch Entity" without defining it was an incredibly bad idea, because the potential meanings are so broad, and "breach" is a bit vague, too. Also, be really careful about the typos; I don't think you meant "water-permeable loops."
I'll define it better here then.

Eldritch Entities; beings that warp the world and minds around them and are incomparable with the laws of Homura's reality that are NOT witches have shown up in witch barriers before.

Akemi Homura has battled with these entities in witch Labyrinths in previous timelines.

These entities have attempted to enter into the layer of reality we exist in by using a witch barrier as a way to circumvent the barrier between our perception of reality and theirs.
 
Am sad that that lost.

Also, looked back on the tally and saw the weirdness of veekie's vote. Not sure if that cost veekie an actual vote. Looks like the built-in tally still uses the problematic code of including any [] with an X in it, regardless of where it is in the line.
Yeah, was pretty surprised myself.

Don't worry, veekie didn't have an actual vote. I checked for one manually, when I saw that.


I'll define it better here then.

Eldritch Entities; beings that warp the world and minds around them and are incomparable with the laws of Homura's reality that are NOT witches have shown up in witch barriers before.

Akemi Homura has battled with these entities in witch Labyrinths in previous timelines.

These entities have attempted to enter into the layer of reality we exist in by using a witch barrier as a way to circumvent the barrier between our perception of reality and theirs.
Eldritch Entities; beings that warp the world and minds around them and are incomparable with the laws of Homura's reality that are NOT witches have shown up in witch barriers before.

Akemi Homura has battled with these entities in witch Labyrinths in previous timelines.

These entities have attempted to enter into the layer of reality we exist in by using a witch barrier as a way to circumvent the barrier between our perception of reality and theirs.


Familiars fit the criteria you have outlined here. They are not truly witches, they warp reality and the minds of others, they are fought within Barriers, and they originate in a Witch's Barrier before leaving it, as a way to gain a degree of access to the outside reality. So those reds don't mean much, I fear.
 
Yeah, was pretty surprised myself.

Don't worry, veekie didn't have an actual vote. I checked for one manually, when I saw that.



Eldritch Entities; beings that warp the world and minds around them and are incomparable with the laws of Homura's reality that are NOT witches have shown up in witch barriers before.

Akemi Homura has battled with these entities in witch Labyrinths in previous timelines.

These entities have attempted to enter into the layer of reality we exist in by using a witch barrier as a way to circumvent the barrier between our perception of reality and theirs.


Familiars fit the criteria you have outlined here. They are not truly witches, they warp reality and the minds of others, they are fought within Barriers, and they originate in a Witch's Barrier before leaving it, as a way to gain a degree of access to the outside reality. So those reds don't mean much, I fear.
Thank you for Humoring me nonetheless. I'll use better blues next time.
 
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[X] "I have no idea, actually. "
[Q]...on second thought, take the wheel Koko. Homu OUT! *Make a motion like you're dropping the mike*

We're at 300 SAN and 800 grief, legally we can't be held responsible for our actions!
As things stand. We can probably just have Homura. Take off her glasses stylishly to tap in Kyoko.
 
Well this is something.

Bets on Homura breaking her cool facade to squee with joy once she realizes that Loop!Kyouko's presence means a Loop!Madoka is possible?

Still... 14 others, including Kyouko? The rest of the Mitakihara Five of course... Oriko and Kirika? (I think those are their names, the pre-cog and her friend) still leaves 8 slots to fill, and I doubt any of them will be OCs. I recall Higure saying Magia Record is non-canon to this quest, which (presumably) rules out all of those girls.

I'm stumped for guesses beyond the above.

Edit: also I did notice that whatever laws this new ability operates under, Homura's looped friends obey the same mechanics. Kyouko needed Moemura's glasses to hand off control to Homura. But that was fairly upfront so... damn if I remembered(if shown)/we knew(if hidden) what connected items were lost I might be able to make more guesses
 
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Let's see...

Kyouko, Sayaka, Mami and (probably) Madoka are a given.
Yuma and Nagisa are almost a certainty.
Oriko and Kirika seem like unlikely allies, but it basically happens in almost every quest, so ironically, it's almost certain.
Hitomi is another recurrent addition, and the timelines have gotten weird enough that she might very well have potential by now.

That still leaves five slots, and we're out of girls Homura know, I think. That being said, if we add the Kazumi Magica cast, we might probably reach the correct number? To be honest, I know little about that spin-off.

Alternatively, there's our rookie and the Weiss expy, both of which we seem to have a strong enough connection to justify them being in here despite their OC status.
 
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Hard bet against. Unless you think Homura would be happy with trapping madoka into a hellish existence which is what being attached to homura is.
Homura doesn't act as if the loops are hell for show.

True. But they'd be a lot brighter if Homura had her girlfriend best friend with her. Madoka has a way of making light in her world, last I recalled. Plus it's almost over anyways regardless.

Anyways, I have Blue Truths I want to throw at Higure regarding the mechanic we were intro'd to, but I'm on mobile right now.
 
??? - Pocky Watch
"Kyubey says hi." I tell Kyouko, sitting down next to her on the building's edge.

Pulling the cigarette from her mouth, she chuckles, "Yeah, yeah. The boss is clingy. Not news to me." She glances down at the smoking stick, "You know, these things don't do shit for me. Don't do shit to me either. I just think it looks cool."

I sigh, having heard this a few dozen times before, "Yes, you've told me. You like it because it pisses your old man off." 'Because it's the only time he pays attention to you.'

She huffs, "Hey, it's not just that. It also pisses my teachers off."

Rolling my eyes, I reach into my pocket and pull out a box of pocky, handing it to my old friend, "Here, try these instead. They don't give people headaches."

She takes them, popping one into her mouth, "Huh. Chocolate. Not bad. You always seem to have something for everyone, you know that?"

I scoff, implicitly denying the collection of items I keep on me for when a friend needs something, "Hardly. If I had something for everyone, I'd have a pocket watch for myself."

She looks at me askance, popping in a new stick of pocky, "And you don't why?"

"It's going to sound silly if I say it, Kyouko."

She chuckles, "Well, then you should definitely say it. What, you think it's gauche to buy one for yourself? Waiting for Madoka to get you one?" She winks at me, earning a kick in the leg for her trouble.

"No, Kyouko...look, a pocket watch should be inherited. You know, something passed down. An heirloom. So I've got nothing. Grandpa was a watch maker, but he didn't leave anything behind before he died--he didn't exactly have much warning, after all. So, I've got some money and the old shop, but there's a difference between something left behind and something given to you for a purpose. It wouldn't feel right to just start carrying one of his old ones, and buying my own doesn't mean much."

Kyouko looks at me quietly for a few seconds before leaning back to stare at the sky in silence. I start to worry I've pissed her off somehow--family's always a touchy issue--when she finally speaks, "Look, Homura. I get why that'd bother you--you want something he specifically gave you, something saying that he believed in you, that he was with you, instead of just the things he left behind. I get it, but it's stupid as hell."

I'm halfway to my feet and turning towards her when she raises her hands defensively, "Stop. Just...hear me out, okay?"

Slowly, I sit back down, biting back my anger, "Okay."

She sighs, "It's stupid as hell because he left something a lot more important than a fucking watch to you, Homura. From what you've said, he loved clocks more than almost anything in the world. Making them was his biggest passion."

I nod, unsure where she's going with this.

"He taught you how to make them, when you were little, right?"

I nod again.

"He didn't give you a watch, because he was giving you everything you needed to make one. What do you think meant more to him? A machine, or the secrets of building it? A family heirloom, or the family craft? I mean, I'd love it if Dad..." She sighs, "You'll have your grandfather's pocket watch when you build it. He left it in your head and heart, not in your hands. Don't let it go to waste."

I stare at her, shocked, "I had never really thought about it that way. I...I guess you're right. I'll need to start on it. Tonight." Smirking a bit, I go on in a teasing tone, "Thanks, Kyouko. Madoka teach you to give a speech like that?"

She huffs, smirking back, "Hey, hey. I'm a priest's daughter. Even if...well, even if I'm never going to stand at our lectern, I still come by it honestly. Anyway, moving on..." She sits up, breaking eye contact for a moment, "How'd the hunt go? You good for the month?"

Letting her change the topic, I shake my head, "Nah, still need a couple more."

She nods, sighing, "Ain't that the way of it? I'm barely finding enough to get by." She chuckles, but it's hollow sounding, "You know, we could hit our quota easily if we just let people get worse, instead of helping right away. Hell, we could go scare people shitless for extra Fear."

I cut my eyes towards her, trying to get a read on her still, grim expression. After a minute, I finally answer, "We could. You'd never do it though."

She regards me in solemn silence for a few seconds, before finally cracking a smile, laughter bursting from her gut as she throws her head back, "HAHAHA! I had you going for a sec, huh!? Nah, I mean, sure, that'd work, but who the fuck would just let people suffer like that?"

Rolling my eyes at her twisted sense of humor, I stand, looking down at the alleyway below, "So, what're you doing here, anyway?"

Calming down, she climbs to her feet, "Eh, there's a dealer who likes this spot. He's great bait--junkies come looking for a fix, I clean up their emotions, purge their addiction--"

I blink, "Wait. What? How?"

She smirks, taunting me, "Wouldn't you like to know?"

I step on her foot. Hard. She jerks, "Ouch. Dammit Specs, I was gonna tell you!" I stomp again, "STOP! I'll tell you!"

"And the nickname? I haven't worn glasses in years."

She rolls her eyes, "Look, you'll always be the girl in the red glasses to me. Anyway, it's a trick Senpai taught me. She figured it out for some friends, at some point, and'll teach you too if you ask."

Nodding, I step off of her foot, eliciting her to take a step out of my reach, wincing; I don't humor her, knowing this is all just showmanship. I've seen Kyouko Sakura take knives to the stomach with less reaction.

"Anyway, Homura, like I was saying, I clean up junkies, harvest their excesses--usually Hate, Grief, and Despair--and send them home. Dealer's got no clue why business has gone sour, but he'll move on eventually." She bites her lip, "Should I kill him, do you think? He's useful now, but he's gonna hurt a lot of people. Predatory type."

I shrug, not really having an answer for her, "Talk to Madoka if you want a conscience. Talk to Elsa if you want a judgement."

She sighs, "Madoka would tell me to try helping the dealer first, I know. As for Elsa...you know we don't get along well. I mean, the girl doesn't even use her real name most of the time--isn't keeping in touch with normal people kinda the point of it all?"

Shrugging again, I mount a meager defense for my friend, "Elsa's Elsa, and Madoka's Madoka. Madoka's rules are good, I think, but I can't really blame Elsa for not liking them as much. She'd be...well, you know what she'd be doing, if it weren't for Madoka."

Kyouko groans, "Yeah, I do. I'm still not sure she'd be wrong to, though. Well, whatever. Not today's problem."

She settles back in to wait for her target, and I make my departure, "See you later. I'm going to see how Sayaka's holding up."

She nods, not bothering to turn around, "Gotcha. Give the blueberry my regards."

"I will. Happy hunting, Kyouko."

With those words, I step off the rooftop and vanish, extending my senses in search of another dear friend.
 
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We'll, if you insist...

[X] I was... nearby, but unable to fight myself. Kyouko is also nearby, but unavailable right now. There's more to her being here for the fight and me being unable to fight at the same time, but I don't fully inderstand it either, so I can't explain it to you right now. Just don't be surprised if the next time we meet Kyouko she doesn't remember what happened here and claims to have been somewhere else.
-[X] As for what that thing was, I have no idea. It seemed to have it in for me, but I don't remember seeing anything like it ever before and I'm positively sure it shouldn't be here. Things like that have been showing up with alarming frequency lately.
[X] Now, give me a minute to cleanse my Soul Gem and figure out what we're doing next.

Now we just need to figure out what to do next! Or figure out some better answers for our rookie because I'm pretty sure those aren't all that great!
 
For some reason, I could swear I've read/heard ... like, 80-90% of that exchange somewhere before. Weird.
Letting her change the topic, I shake my head, "Nah, still need a couple more."

She nods, sighing, "Ain't that the way of it? I'm barely finding enough to get by." She chuckles, but it's hollow sounding, "You know, we could hit our quota easily if we just let people get worse, instead of helping right away. Hell, we could go scare people shitless for extra Fear."

You cut your eyes towards her, trying to get a read on her still, grim expression. After a minute, you finally answer, "We could. You'd never do it though."

She regards me in solemn silence for a few seconds
Does the perspective change signify something in particular?
 
Kyouko groans, "Yeah, I do. I'm still not sure she'd be wrong to, though. Well, whatever. Not today's problem." She settles back in to wait for her target, and I make my departure, "See you later. I've going to see how Sayaka's holding up."

She nods, not bothering to turn around, "Gotcha. Give the blueberry my regards."

"I will. Happy hunting, Kyouko."
That first paragraph has both Kyouko and Homura speaking. That leads to a disconnect on the following paragraphs. I thought Kyouko was saying, "Happy hunting, Kyouko.", implying that there were two Kyouko's in the scene. However Kyouko referred to Homura as "Homura" earlier, so it wasn't some strange trippy perspective.

Would probably rewrite as:
Kyouko groans. "Yeah, I do. I'm still not sure she'd be wrong to, though. Well, whatever. Not today's problem."

She settles back in to wait for her target, and I make my departure. "See you later. I've I'm going to see how Sayaka's holding up."
Note that I removed the commas connecting the dialog to the narrative, too, as keeping them as separate sentences seemed to fit better.
What, you think it's gauche to by buy one for yourself?

Anyway, interesting variant, similar to the last one, where it seems that grief is harvested by taking it directly from people, rather than harvesting witches. From the comments on Madoka and her 'rules', it feels like this is one of her wish variants to remove witches from the equation and changed the world significantly.

Kyouko's father is still alive. Mami isn't mentioned. but there's someone named "Elsa". I get the feeling that 'Elsa' is Mami, as "judgement" seems to fit her personality potential. (It's also probably a subtle hint using the character from "Frozen", but since I haven't seen that movie, I have no idea what to draw from it.)

We also can figure that this is a while back, as it's before Homura created(?) her grandfather's watch. We also know that it's been "years" since Homura wore glasses, which is rather interesting. Given that the earliest Homura could stop wearing glasses was when she became a magical girl, that means that this world has lasted significantly longer than most timelines. Given that most timelines end at Walpurgisnacht, it's confusing how this could be considered a past timeline.

It almost feels like a potential future. Madoka made a wish that removed the witch cycle, which changed the past and allowed Kyouko's family to survive. That changed her interactions with Mami, and there was no recovery from their falling out.

Looking back at the prior of these, I see Elsa is also mentioned there. "If it's even me. Elsa might just kill you." Given the ending of the first of this side story, I assume we'll be seeing interludes with Sayaka, 'Elsa', and Madoka eventually.


Overall, this feels like a "potential" ending, but not a "golden" ending. Everyone lives past Walpurgisnacht, and there are no more witches, but it doesn't really feel 'happy'.
 
[X] I was... nearby, but unable to fight myself. Kyouko is also nearby, but unavailable right now. There's more to her being here for the fight and me being unable to fight at the same time, but I don't fully inderstand it either, so I can't explain it to you right now. Just don't be surprised if the next time we meet Kyouko she doesn't remember what happened here and claims to have been somewhere else.
-[X] As for what that thing was, I have no idea. It seemed to have it in for me, but I don't remember seeing anything like it ever before and I'm positively sure it shouldn't be here. Things like that have been showing up with alarming frequency lately.
[X] Now, give me a minute to cleanse my Soul Gem and figure out what we're doing next.

Eh I can't think of anything better right now.
 
Kyouko's father is still alive. Mami isn't mentioned. but there's someone named "Elsa". I get the feeling that 'Elsa' is Mami, as "judgement" seems to fit her personality potential.
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That changed her interactions with Mami, and there was no recovery from their falling out.

I thought Elsa was one of the Witches, specifically the religion themed one that Sayaka bashed into the ground as her first attempt at removing herself from her body to dull pain. Checking the wiki, the name of that particular Witch is Elsa Maria. The mention of "Senpai" would be Mami I would imagine. Also, I'm not sure Mami and Kyoko would have had a falling out in this timeline as the direct source of their falling out was the death of Kyoko's family. That's what made Kyoko go all "let familiars eat people to turn into witches" and even then, that was partly to just push Mami away as part of her grief over being the "cause" of her family's death.

Changing topics to Votes...the two votes I am seeing appear a little wordy to me, but would otherwise be good. Hits the major points of "I don't know what's going on" and "Kyoko won't remember this later" that we need to cover. Also cleans Homura's Soul Gem as that's pretty high on Grief at the moment. Personally I would change the order to cleaning first and then explaining as so far this timeline, we seem to end up getting hit by stuff right about when we think things are going to settle down, but other than that and the before mentioned wordy-ness of the vote the only thing I'd add is checking Ruki's Soul Gem to make sure she doesn't need a cleans or cleaning it if she does need one.

[X] Clean your Soul Gem and check Ruki's just to be safe
[X] Explain you don't know what that doll thing was, that you were unable to fight while Kyoko was there and that when we meet her again later she is unlikely to remember this fight, and you're not completely sure the whys of it yet.
 
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