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Theravis said:
Second: @TenfoldShields.
Your handling of the crisis has been... well, about as well as can be expected. However, your national spells are getting to be fairly disruptive and if I don't allow technological nukes, why should I allow magical ones? Therefore, I'm instituting a law that requires any spell costing 10+ dots to have a special approval and in-story reason. I will redo your entire complement of heroes and spells for you if needed, since I know in large part you were just overwhelmed by the number of points you had to spend.
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Gggoooootcha. I'll probably still ask to keep Witness, Jormungandr since that's the big one and ties in directly with their mythological ancestor and shit. I'll rework/nerf the other ones and it'll give stuff more variety anyway. If that's alright I mean?
 
TenfoldShields said:
Gggoooootcha. I'll probably still ask to keep Witness, Jormungandr since that's the big one and ties in directly with their mythological ancestor and shit. I'll rework/nerf the other ones and it'll give stuff more variety anyway. If that's alright I mean?
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The general idea is that you shouldn't have nukes, but I'll work with you to make it do SOMETHING big.
 
Theravis said:
The general idea is that you shouldn't have nukes, but I'll work with you to make it do SOMETHING big.
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I...guess. I mean I'm not trying to sound ungrateful or anything but I sorta question how "you being able to do a large scale strategic thing purely through magic is a problem, so instead we're going to let you do large scale strategic things purely through magic". 'Cause, I mean, if my heroes are still operating at that level then the problem wasn't really solved and people are just gonna get pissy about it again yeah? It might not be nukes but it's still going to be a lot of "that's bullshit how is he doing that magic is broken haaaaaxxxxx". And if my heroes aren't operating at that level then I don't really have any path to victory or general relevance because I don't have anything else to work with and basically just lucked into an alliance with Denmark where they got the hugely short end of the stick.

And...like neither option is really good I guess. Honestly, not trying to crawl up on the cross, but if it'd just be easier for everyone I'll switch nations or drop?
 
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TenfoldShields said:
I...guess. I mean I'm not trying to sound ungrateful or anything but I sorta question how "you being able to do a large scale strategic thing purely through magic is a problem, so instead we're going to have you do large scale strategic things purely through magic". 'Cause, I mean, if my heroes are still operating at that level then the problem wasn't really solved and people are just gonna get pissy about it again yeah? And if my heroes aren't operating at that level then I don't really have any path to victory or general relevance because I don't have anything else to work with and basically just lucked into an alliance with Denmark where they got the hugely short end of the stick.

And...like neither option is really good I guess. Honestly, not trying to crawl up on the cross, but if it'd just be easier for everyone I'll switch nations or drop?
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Let me go over this with the team before you do anything hasty. I'd rather not lose another player over this whole thing.
 
Theravis said:
Let me go over this with the team before you do anything hasty. I'd rather not lose another player over this whole thing.
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I'm not trying to blackmail you into letting me keep the nukes and shit because honestly I agree that they're a problem. It's just the only two solutions really involve either reworking the nation from the ground up or just getting another one.
 
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TenfoldShields said:
I'm not trying to blackmail you into letting me keep the nukes and shit because honestly I agree that they're a problem. It's just the only two solutions really involve either reworking the nation from the ground up or just getting another one.
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My idea was making it strategically useful but non-destructive.
 
Mayyybbe, but I haven't decided what soul theft does in this universe.
 
Theravis said:
My idea was making it strategically useful but non-destructive.
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But that's really just the same set of problems like I said. Like, say fr'ex, instead of putting all of Runi's points into a big "kill a fuckload of people and raise them as a huge mob of mutating zombies" I put them into "make giantblooded kaiju who can suplex battleships" or "craft Actual Dragons" or "flash grow immense amounts of food in utterly barren land" or "mass mutate civilians into monsters", all shit that RAW I could probably do at 10 or less. Then I'm still effectively getting walking dreadnoughts for free or incredible destructive attack craft on pennies or essentially removing myself from dependency on food supplies and enabling a huge population boom to support the big-ass cloning boom or just straight up winning hearts and minds in the literal sense.

And that's just one dude. I've got five + relics. I have enough points that I could straight up layer shit on them until they're all essentially immortal and can wade in punching tanks to death. And even now it's, like, my magic shit doesn't make much of an actual difference except on the very largest end of things because there's already so many fiddly bits to keep track of. Plus even just "exclusively military targets" could make me basically unbeatable in the field unless shit's gimped pretty thoroughly. And at that point it's...why try y'know? It's nobody's fault but it's pretty evident that it just doesn't work and no offense but hashing out tech and spells and military and everything was enough of a pill the first time around.
 
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Theravis said:
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT​
I have 2 major announcements. Bearing in mind the events of last night, my GM's and I had a long discussion on what to do with this game, and reached two conclusions.

First of all: @Sailor Midgard
While there's no personal enmity between us, I can safely say that a lot of the salt in this game has come either from you or people interacting with you. As a result, we've voting to remove you. My apologies, but hopefully this will be best for everyone.

Second: @TenfoldShields.
Your handling of the crisis has been... well, about as well as can be expected. However, your national spells are getting to be fairly disruptive and if I don't allow technological nukes, why should I allow magical ones? Therefore, I'm instituting a law that requires any spell costing 10+ dots to have a special approval and in-story reason. I will redo your entire complement of heroes and spells for you if needed, since I know in large part you were just overwhelmed by the number of points you had to spend.

Edit: This is not a nerf to Nagalfar. I'm just reallocating the spells they currently have.

While other changes may or may not be forthcoming, I have no intention of cancelling the game, and we'll see how things develop before I shift anything else.
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Have fun, everybody. I am just sad.
 
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I don't think Sailor Midgard should be kicked. If the reason for the kick is salt, so long as its OOC I don't see how thats so wrong.

Sailor has been fun to play with, and while I disagree with modern morals being accepted in the 1600s, she's been a worthwhile contributor.
 
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Rolls.

My quest will take me far but the penalty is balanced out by a +2 modifier. Counting the +1 from last stage I will have +1 in the third phase.
Ceslas threw 1 6-faced dice. Reason: Econ Total: 5
5 5
Ceslas threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Hero Total: 29
29 29
Ceslas threw 5 3-faced dice. Reason: Journey Total: 9
1 1 1 1 3 3 2 2 2 2
 
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@Theravis

I was wondering, if modding my naval ships to increase the maximum elevation of the main guns and adding at least rudimentary AA fire control because flying battleships are now a thing would constitute a Major Action, or if that can be be done as an Internal Event.

And in general, if I can make my troops practice tactic X or make minor gear modification Y in response to various Magic stuff that OTL never had to deal with via an IE.
 
TenfoldShields said:
I'm not trying to blackmail you into letting me keep the nukes and shit because honestly I agree that they're a problem. It's just the only two solutions really involve either reworking the nation from the ground up or just getting another one.
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Bd happy . Everybody of you gets the lands he wants now and since i have been banned, no one is gonna fight you about it.
 
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