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Sailor Midgard said:
THIS IS A WIP.

Swerige - Norge Year 1680
Polity Flag/Coat of Arms

Name: United Kingdoms of Sweden and Norway
Current Ruler: Carl XI Adolphus Wasa-Zweibruecken
Expected Heir: Carl Gustav Wasa-Zweibruecken
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Population: 3,110,000
Capital: Stockholm

Magical Artifacts:

Economic Status: In your national listing
-Power: 8
-Status: 5, Growing

Insert Major Actions here : 1.The King sends out a fleet of military and civilian vessels under Commodore Cornelius Brahe , several specialists from Uppsala University and the middle prince on an extended survey of the southern coastal waters of Terra Australis , Tasmania , New Zealand and Terra de Fuego/Patagonia. More in a Colonial/ Exploration plan to follow.

2 .The king invests, as publicly as possible, large parts of his revenue and personal property in Scandinavian industries and colonial businesses.
He is taking and coordinating the advice of academic and economic specialists and Swedish/ Norwegian investors.

3. A minor propaganda offensive, low key but pervasive, to increase trust in the king and lessen the pervasive paranoia by playing up past glories of the Swedish nation and the possibilities the future will hold.

4. Enlargement of the shipbuilding industry and both the Merchant navy and the Royal Navy.

5. TBD

6. TBD

Internal Events:
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Now that the year of of 1679 has seen the death of both King Carl X Gustav and his wife, the formidable Queen Christina in a span of only six months, it is indeed up to the "Pale Prince", who is also known as 'the Peoples Prince", to prove his worth to the people
-the week-long giant celebrations planned for the actual crowning of the King and the Queen around Spring Equinox in the old coronation site at Uppsala, then at Stockholm and Oslo, while expensive, shall send a signal that the New King of Swedes, Norse and Geats is not going to be any less glorious or kingly than his mother was for all his avowed and heartfelt belief in a constitutional monarchy.
- The attendance of three Wasa scions and an grizzled Diplomatic veteran at the Grand Ball in Delhi is almost forgotten about due to this by the populace.....

Techlevels
Biology: 1922
Electronics: 1925
Organic Chemistry: 1910
Inorganic Chemistry: 1915
Industry: 1925
High Energy Physics: 1924
Medicine: 1926
Rocketry and Aeronautics: 1922
Infantry: 1922
Armor: 1924
Airpower: 1916
Naval: 1916


Military
-207,400 potential manpower
- Wip

Units:WIP
(List your military units here)

Magic Rating: WIP


Factions

Wip




Alliances, Agreements, Pacts, and Trade:

Allied with Netherlands, Russia Poland, Mughals.
Trade deal with Russia, Netherlands, Mughals
Territorial guarantee as to the Deccan by Mughals.
Undisclosed other agreement with Mughals.

Diplomacy:
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shiverczar said:
Thank you @Theravis. So the next question would be, would actions be used on those plans? Or how would that work?

Like, lets say I'm playing as... the Qing dynasty, and I want to spy on my neighbors. Would I put as an economy action: Espionage plan [see PM]?
If I'm Canada and I wanted to expand my borders through colonialization, would that be similarly done: "Colonization [see PM]"?
And then for war...
If I were... Mexico, and I wanted to take out Guatemala, would I write up your warplan, send by PM, and then in my Turnpost have action: sending troops to battle [see PM]?
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You write the plan and then have as an action "Operation: Codename" or "Project Fakealias" or something similar. Then you mark the plan with that name in our PM.

This way people know you did something and can check the math, but not what it is or even what kind of action, necessarily. Meanwhile, I can easily search that name when I need to resolve turn updates and I need to find your plan.
 
Raptor580 said:
What did you want me to look at about this do i have anyone available to marry.
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This guy is your leader. Check under "Issue", those people are his children.
The following should all be alive and availible. Charles Emil von Hohenzollern is 23 and unmarried and is your heir, thanks to A) no Franco-Prussian war and B) better treatment for Dysentery.
Charles, Electoral Prince of Brandenburg - Wikipedia
Frederick I of Prussia - Wikipedia
Philip William, Margrave of Brandenburg-Schwedt - Wikipedia
Marie Amalie of Brandenburg - Wikipedia
Margrave Albert Frederick of Brandenburg-Schwedt - Wikipedia
Margravine Elisabeth Sophie of Brandenburg (1674–1748) - Wikipedia
Margrave Christian Ludwig of Brandenburg-Schwedt - Wikipedia
 
Theravis said:
Alright. Moving Dive Bomber to CAS, adding gunboats. Already added motorized/mechanized.

Can you expand on what you mean about the modifier on ships within a category?
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Does cavalry have a modifier and for the ships would fast battleships be battlecruisers or battleships?

For modifiers I mean. Like how the Yamamoto has 50% more displacement than the Bismarck.
 
Conundrum said:
Does cavalry have a modifier and for the ships would fast battleships be battlecruisers or battleships?

For modifiers I mean. Like how the Yamamoto has 50% more displacement than the Bismarck.
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It's motorized for people who haven't got cars yet.

Fast Battleships are battleships.
Yamato would be a superheavy.

And... yeah, I understand what you're saying and I love naval stuff to bits, but it's just too difficult to draw universal lines in that sort of thing, so I have to generalize. I'd be more than willing to work with you on a system that can cover it if it can be done without adding 6 more layers of bookkeeping. I had AN idea for it....
 
First draft of my turnpost, I don't think I missed anything but please tell me if I missed anything/did something I'm not allowed to do

al-Mamlakah al-Maghribiyah - 1680


Name: Moroccan Sultanate
Current Ruler: Ismail Ibn Shariff
Expected Heir: Abu'l Abbas Ahmad
Type of Government: Absolute Monarchy
Population: 3,325,000
Capital: Rabat

Magical Artifacts:
None

Economic Status:
-Power 4
-Growing(5)

Major Actions: @Theravis
  • 1 MA Establishing a government organization dedicated towards short term famine relief.
  • 1 MA Manufacturing a border incident with Mali of sufficient scale to justify a military conflict in the near future.
  • 3 MA Embarking on a long term industrialization program for the coastal regions. Notable improvements include construction of new modern factories, modernization of agriculture and railroad construction in order to link commercial hubs.

Internal Events:
  • Ismail holds a public speech in Rabat where he emphasizes the fundamental role magic will play in the future Moroccan society and military. He stresses that there will be no walking away from this path as a Morocco without magic is a Morocco that has already been crushed by its foes.
  • Owing to its modernization and technological superiority over its neighbours an idea is starting to that its Morocco's destiny to dominate the West African region amongst the nobility and army.


Techlevels
Biology: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
Electronics: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
Organic Chemistry: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
Inorganic Chemistry: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
Industry: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
High Energy Physics: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
Medicine: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
Rocketry and Aeronautics: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
Infantry: 1900 + 0 = 1900
Armor: 1900 + 0 = 1900
Airpower: 1900 + 0 = 1900
Naval: 1900 + 0 = 1900


Military
-Potential Manpower: 221667
-Used Manpower: 200,000

Units:
Troop Composition: 150,000 Infantry, 50,000 Artillerymen
Currently deployed at the southern border
Equipment Modifiers: Squad Mages, Econ x2
Experience: Veteran
Additional Units: 5,000 Artillery Batteries
Total Cost: 4

Magic Rating:
Rank-1 Spell:
To Know the World: An information gathering spell that falls under the domain of the Practice of Knowing

Using this spell the caster can gather information on nearby terrain, learning what type of terrain surrounds them as well as potential obstacles nearby.

Rank-2 Spell:
Man's Supremacy Over Nature: A terraforming spell that falls under the domain of the Practice of Weaving.

This spell allows the caster to temporarily manipulate the surrounding terrain. The caster can not permanently change any terrain nor can he alter its fundamental nature he can alter other aspects of it. For example the caster couldn't turn a swamp into steppe terrain but he could temporarily dry up any mud in it. This spell is primarily used to make the transportation of troops across hostile terrain easier.

Rank-3 Spell:
To Stand Against the World: A human improvement spell that falls under the domain of the Practice of Perfecting

Those affected by this spell finds themselves filled with unworldly energy. For the duration of the spell they are not affected by exhaustion
Ismail Ibn Shariff, 46, Male, Sultan of Morocco
Theme: Royal Authority
Rank-2 Spell: For the King! A human improvement spell that falls under the domain of the Practice of Shielding

Troops affected by this spell become immune to negative morale for a short period of time. Once that period is over all negative effects come crashing back. This spell is best used when it is absolutely essential that a group of soldiers hold a position for just a little more time before breaking.

Rank-2 Spell: Royal Decree: A human manipulation spell that falls under the domain of the Practice of Ruling

This spell allows the caster to command the target to execute one direct task even if it goes against their allegiance. However it only works on weak willed targets or those who have been heavily demoralized. Furthermore each successive command is much harder to issue than the last as the targets gradually build up resistance to the effects of the spell. Also once the target has executed the commands they immediately regain control of their faculties and are likely to seek revenge against the caster.

Rank-3 Spell: The King's Wrath: A human manipulation spell that falls under the domain of the Practice of Fraying

This spell allows the caster to demoralize targets in a moderately sized area. This effect on it's own is not enough to significantly alter the combat abilities of enemy troops but combined with a well executed attack by allied troops it can provide the final push that causes an enemy unit to break. The effect wears off after a moderate amount of time but if the enemy has already been broken they are unlikely to be an effective fighting force even if they return to the battle.

Rank-5 Spell: Submit Before Your Lord: A human manipulation spell that falls under the domain of the Practice of Unmaking

This spell completely annihilates a targets will to fight. While undoubtedly powerful it has some severe restrictions. Firstly it can only affect a small group. Secondly it takes a significant amount of time to cast. Finally casting the spell takes a significant toll on the caster, decreasing their effectiveness for the rest of the fight. It is best reserved for use on enemy elite troops and essential positions such as machine gun nests.


Factions
  • Black Guard: Loyalty 5, Power 3
  • Sunnis: Loyalty 3, Power 3
  • Shiites: Loyalty 2, Power 2
  • Sufis: Loyalty 4, Power 1


Alliances, Agreements, Pacts, and Trade:
  • Established trading relations with the Mamluke Kingdom
  • Established trading relations with the Kingdom of Spain
  • Established trading relations with the West Indies Syndicate

Diplomacy:
  • Escalating tensions with the Mali Sultanate, with Ismail continuously referring to the situation inside of the country as "unacceptable".
 
@Theravis
So, actually, I have another question... Or three more xD Does my government have an extant elected leader? As far as I'm aware, the Republic of Platina [which I prefer over Platinan Republic for some reason since the place is called Platina] did not exist outside of this alternate timeline...

What policies [if any] currently exist, or is this something of a blank slate in a changed world that I should mold to be interesting?

Any reason the PIRATES do not have a magic rating? Like, not even a number zero.

Oh right, and one more thing -- you mentioned that the higher tech party in a trade route could lose their money [1 of the income? all of it?] to help the minor nation improve tech [all tech? or a specific category?]. Why does the big nation lose the money gained? I would think that the small nation is the one receiving scientific aid in exchange for goods, or simply money, and so in theory the smaller nation should have to sacrifice their trade income [assuming the higher tech nation is willing to assist]? Or is this done more for balance reasons?

I realize that as a scientifically backwards nation, I would benefit more if the advanced nations had to sacrifice income instead of me, but it feels a little strange that I can get economic stimulus *and* scientific aid at no cost aside from one of my trade routes.
 
Walker Of Chaos said:
First draft of my turnpost, I don't think I missed anything but please tell me if I missed anything/did something I'm not allowed to do

al-Mamlakah al-Maghribiyah - 1680


Name: Moroccan Sultanate
Current Ruler: Ismail Ibn Shariff
Expected Heir: Abu'l Abbas Ahmad
Type of Government: Absolute Monarchy
Population: 3,325,000
Capital: Rabat

Magical Artifacts:
None

Economic Status:
-Power 4
-Growing(5)

Major Actions: @Theravis
  • 1 MA Establishing a government organization dedicated towards short term famine relief.
  • 1 MA Manufacturing a border incident with Mali of sufficient scale to justify a military conflict in the near future.
  • 3 MA Embarking on a long term industrialization program for the coastal regions. Notable improvements include construction of new modern factories, modernization of agriculture and railroad construction in order to link commercial hubs.

Internal Events:
  • Ismail holds a public speech in Rabat where he emphasizes the fundamental role magic will play in the future Moroccan society and military. He stresses that there will be no walking away from this path as a Morocco without magic is a Morocco that has already been crushed by its foes.
  • Owing to its modernization and technological superiority over its neighbours an idea is starting to that its Morocco's destiny to dominate the West African region amongst the nobility and army.


Techlevels
Biology: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
Electronics: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
Organic Chemistry: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
Inorganic Chemistry: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
Industry: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
High Energy Physics: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
Medicine: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
Rocketry and Aeronautics: 1890 + 1.5 = 1891.5
Infantry: 1900 + 0 = 1900
Armor: 1900 + 0 = 1900
Airpower: 1900 + 0 = 1900
Naval: 1900 + 0 = 1900


Military
-Potential Manpower: 221667
-Used Manpower: 200,000

Units:
Troop Composition: 150,000 Infantry, 50,000 Artillerymen
Currently deployed at the southern border
Equipment Modifiers: Squad Mages, Econ x2
Experience: Veteran
Additional Units: 5,000 Artillery Batteries
Total Cost: 4

Magic Rating:
Rank-1 Spell:
To Know the World: An information gathering spell that falls under the domain of the Practice of Knowing

Using this spell the caster can gather information on nearby terrain, learning what type of terrain surrounds them as well as potential obstacles nearby.

Rank-2 Spell:
Man's Supremacy Over Nature: A terraforming spell that falls under the domain of the Practice of Weaving.

This spell allows the caster to temporarily manipulate the surrounding terrain. The caster can not permanently change any terrain nor can he alter its fundamental nature he can alter other aspects of it. For example the caster couldn't turn a swamp into steppe terrain but he could temporarily dry up any mud in it. This spell is primarily used to make the transportation of troops across hostile terrain easier.

Rank-3 Spell:
To Stand Against the World: A human improvement spell that falls under the domain of the Practice of Perfecting

Those affected by this spell finds themselves filled with unworldly energy. For the duration of the spell they are not affected by exhaustion
Ismail Ibn Shariff, 46, Male, Sultan of Morocco
Theme: Royal Authority
Rank-2 Spell: For the King! A human improvement spell that falls under the domain of the Practice of Shielding

Troops affected by this spell become immune to negative morale for a short period of time. Once that period is over all negative effects come crashing back. This spell is best used when it is absolutely essential that a group of soldiers hold a position for just a little more time before breaking.

Rank-2 Spell: Royal Decree: A human manipulation spell that falls under the domain of the Practice of Ruling

This spell allows the caster to command the target to execute one direct task even if it goes against their allegiance. However it only works on weak willed targets or those who have been heavily demoralized. Furthermore each successive command is much harder to issue than the last as the targets gradually build up resistance to the effects of the spell. Also once the target has executed the commands they immediately regain control of their faculties and are likely to seek revenge against the caster.

Rank-3 Spell: The King's Wrath: A human manipulation spell that falls under the domain of the Practice of Fraying

This spell allows the caster to demoralize targets in a moderately sized area. This effect on it's own is not enough to significantly alter the combat abilities of enemy troops but combined with a well executed attack by allied troops it can provide the final push that causes an enemy unit to break. The effect wears off after a moderate amount of time but if the enemy has already been broken they are unlikely to be an effective fighting force even if they return to the battle.

Rank-5 Spell: Submit Before Your Lord: A human manipulation spell that falls under the domain of the Practice of Unmaking

This spell completely annihilates a targets will to fight. While undoubtedly powerful it has some severe restrictions. Firstly it can only affect a small group. Secondly it takes a significant amount of time to cast. Finally casting the spell takes a significant toll on the caster, decreasing their effectiveness for the rest of the fight. It is best reserved for use on enemy elite troops and essential positions such as machine gun nests.


Factions
  • Black Guard: Loyalty 5, Power 3
  • Sunnis: Loyalty 3, Power 3
  • Shiites: Loyalty 2, Power 2
  • Sufis: Loyalty 4, Power 1

Alliances, Agreements, Pacts, and Trade:
  • Established trading relations with the Mamluke Kingdom
  • Established trading relations with the Kingdom of Spain
  • Established trading relations with the West Indies Syndicate

Diplomacy:
  • Escalating tensions with the Mali Sultanate, with Ismail continuously referring to the situation inside of the country as "unacceptable".
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Looks pretty good. My only advice would be to put the bit about Mali under your actions into a secret espionage plan. Even against NPCs, it's a bad idea to announce your espionage.
 
shiverczar said:
@Theravis
So, actually, I have another question... Or three more xD Does my government have an extant elected leader? As far as I'm aware, the Republic of Platina [which I prefer over Platinan Republic for some reason since the place is called Platina] did not exist outside of this alternate timeline...

What policies [if any] currently exist, or is this something of a blank slate in a changed world that I should mold to be interesting?

Any reason the PIRATES do not have a magic rating? Like, not even a number zero.

Oh right, and one more thing -- you mentioned that the higher tech party in a trade route could lose their money [1 of the income? all of it?] to help the minor nation improve tech [all tech? or a specific category?]. Why does the big nation lose the money gained? I would think that the small nation is the one receiving scientific aid in exchange for goods, or simply money, and so in theory the smaller nation should have to sacrifice their trade income [assuming the higher tech nation is willing to assist]? Or is this done more for balance reasons?

I realize that as a scientifically backwards nation, I would benefit more if the advanced nations had to sacrifice income instead of me, but it feels a little strange that I can get economic stimulus *and* scientific aid at no cost aside from one of my trade routes.
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1) It doesn't. You can pick that.
2) See 1.
3) I forgot that!?
4) It's balance. Basically, while they would be paying it in, you're also putting yourself into debt and influence to them by doing so. They'd almost definitely call in those favors elsewhere.
 
@Theravis Apparently you did forget their magic rating yes :)
Cool. Majordomo Johann Vos shall be at the head of the country (for now).

My only question re: Morroco's plans, shouldn't the action economy be base 2 + 4 econ + 1 growing -4 military upkeep = 3 actions? I see 5 actions.
 
Theravis said:
What?
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Like, if I can only have five trade routes going at once, expanding into unclaimed land via colonialism to access new markets doesn't seem to be particularly worth it.

Also, having looked into it, how exactly did France conquer the UK in 1654, when the PoD only happened the year before, my magic rating is 2, at this point France was still hovering near bankruptcy?
 
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