Magical Girl Quest - The Fire That Burns

Ok then, here are some questions:

1. What happened between the Clocktower and Counter Force to start this war?

2. What happened in WW2 to form the Clocktower?

3. Why/when was the Counter Force formed?

4. How did the Clocktower cut the Counter Force's feet out in China? (My guess is that the CF tried to get magic info from the chinese magic organization, and the CT went "No!" and killed them)

5. What has happened in the war so far/who was winning?

6. Is the Light sending Not!Demons all around the world or is there a single epicenter that they are focusing on?

7. What are relations like between the Clocktower and Counter Force right now with the Light attacking both of them?

8. Does anyone know that the Light is behind the Not!Demons? I don't think it is common knowledge, so maybe just the higher-ups in both organizations?

9. At the very beginning of the quest there was stuff going on between Somalia, Ethiopia, and Kenya. What was that? I'm honestly curious.

10. Could we get Cuifen's Character Sheet? We know she is very strong, evidenced in both the Una incident and throwing boulders around when training with Daiyu, so I would like to know more about her.

11. Could we get more on Daiyu and Cuifen's backstory? We have known them for awhile and still know very little about them.

12. What was Gaia's original plan for us and how/why did it change?

13. Do we get a choice in where to set up our organization or is Gaia picking it herself?

14. How is Gaia going to help get Cerys set up? What information, territory, personnel, equipment, money and other resources will we get and do we get a say in any of it?

15. What is the Counter Force's opinion of us? Can we still work with them like we are willing to work with Karen?

16. What is the Clocktower's opinion of us?

17. What are regular people's opinion of us?

18. What are the magical girl's opinion of us?

19. Who was it that was annoying us and we decided not to murderize in "Its not a date"?

20. What are we known for and what is publicly known about what we have done and why?

21. Could Cerys get regular information updates once we get set up without having the thread vote to check up on them and just have her do that automatically once we have them? Like, we ask for information updates and Cerys checks them as part of her routine and voters don't need to make her do it every time we want to know something.

22. I think this is a spoiler, but I'll ask it anyway. At what level does Infinity Edge gain Unstoppable?

Less serious questions:
23. How can we get Cerys to accept Sabina's affections and start a harem?

24. What are Daiyu's, Sabina's, and Cuifen's favorite foods in case we want to reward/spoil them?

25. What sort of activities does each member of our group enjoy?

26. What sort of date would Daiyu enjoy the most? Sabina?

27. If, after we get all set up by Gaia, we fly down to a restaurant with the group, how terrified would our waitress be of us?

I do have other questions, but this is enough for now and some of them might be answered or change based on these questions.
1. Alot of things. Gaia, you, Gaia, Karen, Gaia, The Light, Gaia.

2. A lot of people noticed magic, kinda hard not to when the fighting is everywhere and didn't approve. It really didn't help that Karen was still in her angsty years and took her frustration out on whoever was near her. Also, there was a pretty big breakdown in the suppression of magic and monsters, on account of everything being on fire.

3. They 'officially' formed a few months ago from the group who were semi-known as The Shadow, who picked up the slack after The Light stopped doing their job. It's really just a rebranding and moving into the public eye.

4. Pretty much, except the CT didn't know that the CF already got what they wanted when they stopped them, which is why the CF didn't bother trying again.

5. The war has been an odd mixture of lightning advance and massive fortifications. The CF can bring a lot of well equipped soldiers to bear and a shit ton of heavy ordinance, which lends itself well to extremely rapid advances and smashing through things. The opposite is that the CT has magic to muddle the waters, which can turn a 100 mile advance into a rout as your supply chain is eaten by a Grue. CF fortifications are the only places that are relatively safe from being magicked into a pretzel and they are a slow process to establish.

Generally a battle goes: CT Summons Meatshields, CF is forced to drop the hammer to get rid of them. If the summons last, the CF is usually forced back to the nearest outpost or fortress. If not, they'll punch through the squishy mages and make a ton of progress, if they aren't suddenly surrounded by another summon, or their tanks suddenly forgetting what they were doing, or seeing friendlies as enemies.

The war has been going in the Counter Forces favour so far, they've pushed through Spain and a little into France, where their lines stop at Switzerland and loop around to the German-Polish border.

6. They are sending them everywhere.

7. The leaders both know exactly what's going on and don't terribly mind turning their attention away from each other. The Public and Soldiers on the other hand, are more than willing to continue tearing into one another.

8. Higher-ups know, but the common solider doesn't.

9. Early Instalment Weirdness, I wasn't sure exactly what I was doing there. The situation has concluded though, with them forming a fledgling African Alliance.

10.
(Ebony Knight) Cuifen Feng


Stats

Health: 120
Base Damage: 90
Base Resilience: 20
Magic Modifier: N/A


Affinity: N/A
Weapon


Bare Fists
Level 3
Attacks Per Turn: 2
Affinities: N/A
Ability: Grapple | Double Hit
Abilities

Skilful Dodge
-Sacrifice 4 actions to dodge an incoming attack

Stand Amongst Mages [Locked]
-If your opponent has at least one Affinity, increase your ApT by 300%

Inhuman Agility [Locked]
-Capable of performing incredible feats of agility.

Never Outdone
-???
Skills

Hand to Hand
Master. +100% Base Damage on unarmed attacks.
You know how to throw a punch and take one.


11. Daiyu was the student of a sword and was semi-aware that magic existed through her training and her sister. Cuifen has spent a great amount of time with Monks through her life, and picked up a lot of peripheral knowledge of magic and mysticism. Cuifen always tried to take care of Daiyu, but fond that she was more than capable of doing it herself and was very independant, it always saddened her that she couldn't look after her, but at least she could protect her.

12. Gaia's original plan for you was to create someone who can lead future magical girls, her plan hasn't really changed, but she's been using you as an EMIYA until now.

13. You get to pick.

14. You'll get information on the area, a few things of interest to point you in the right direction and a bit of land in the area. Building, maintaining, housing and feeding people are your responsibility.

15. The rank and file both hate and are afraid of you. The leaders are perfectly willing to work with you, to an extent. It's quite likely that they'll ask you to join them.

16. Karen is still somewhat fond of you, annoyed at Gaia for forcing this and generally disappointed at the general direction the world is going. The Enforcers are horribly confused as to what happened and angry at you.

17. Most people don't know about you, of those that do you are viewed as horribly dangerous, but also a sad story. It's generally believed that you aren't doing any of this of your own will and are being forced to by someone else.

18. Of those that know you, you are a very intimidating person. It's well known that you have a habit of appearing wherever you want and horribly outgun every other girl, having proved you have no qualms killing people. Most of them would run away if they saw you and didn't have a reason to stay. A few are very interested in meeting you, either to talk, fight or just curiosity. One really wants to find you.

19. No-one was annoying you, you got the xp for not continuing your normal habit of murdering everyone you come across on a mission.

20. (Among the magical society) You are known for a lot of your work with the Clocktower, your fight in Portugal and both attacks against CT/CF bases. People who ask can probably find the path you tore through America as well.

21. You can.

22. Never.

23. First, have Cerys stop being content being with Daiyu. Good luck with that. Death works.

24. I plead the fifth.

25. Daiyu likes training and napping in the sun. Sabina likes taking care of her sword and people watching. Cuifen likes reading and cooking.

26. Daiyu would be happy to spend a day lazing about with you under a warm sun, or training together. Sabina would honestly be happy just spending time with you, I suppose if you were to go shopping in a sword maintenance shop though...

27. If she didn't recognise you? Baffled at you blatantly flying. If she did? Either freak out or very, very carefully do as you say.

I realize that, but that is like saying "Germany invaded Poland to start WW2" which is true but does not highlight the underlying causes for doing that. It tells me the what but not the why. Why did the Counter Force try to kill Una? Where does the animosity between the CF and CT begin? Was it just because of what happened in China? Difference in their ideologies? We know that the CF does not approve of Karen's ideas and policies from Annabelle and were fearful that the CT had discovered a way to make magical girls so is that why? How deep does their divide run. People don't just randomly shoot missiles at children for no reason.
It's more of a personal animosity between their leaders. They really, really don't like each other, and have been fighting a spy war against one another for decades. Also yes, they were absolutely terrified when they thought that Karen had cracked the knowledge of how to manufacture Magical Girls. The moment the local commander heard of it he ordered you to be eliminated now.

Can we choose to base ourself somewhere that is a pain in the ass for Gaia to set up, just as a small way of paying her back for past annoyances :V
You can, you will of course have to deal with being in such a shitty location though.
 
Well that was very interesting. Lets see here:

1. Alot of things. Gaia, you, Gaia, Karen, Gaia, The Light, Gaia.
I see, so Gaia may be involved in this in some way...

2. A lot of people noticed magic, kinda hard not to when the fighting is everywhere and didn't approve. It really didn't help that Karen was still in her angsty years and took her frustration out on whoever was near her. Also, there was a pretty big breakdown in the suppression of magic and monsters, on account of everything being on fire.
Hmm. In this situation I wonder what promise it was that Karen broke around this time.

3. They 'officially' formed a few months ago from the group who were semi-known as The Shadow, who picked up the slack after The Light stopped doing their job. It's really just a rebranding and moving into the public eye.
I see, so they have been around for a while.

4. Pretty much, except the CT didn't know that the CF already got what they wanted when they stopped them, which is why the CF didn't bother trying again.
So that is where the CF got magic from. Good for them.

5. The war has been an odd mixture of lightning advance and massive fortifications. The CF can bring a lot of well equipped soldiers to bear and a shit ton of heavy ordinance, which lends itself well to extremely rapid advances and smashing through things. The opposite is that the CT has magic to muddle the waters, which can turn a 100 mile advance into a rout as your supply chain is eaten by a Grue. CF fortifications are the only places that are relatively safe from being magicked into a pretzel and they are a slow process to establish.

Generally a battle goes: CT Summons Meatshields, CF is forced to drop the hammer to get rid of them. If the summons last, the CF is usually forced back to the nearest outpost or fortress. If not, they'll punch through the squishy mages and make a ton of progress, if they aren't suddenly surrounded by another summon, or their tanks suddenly forgetting what they were doing, or seeing friendlies as enemies.

The war has been going in the Counter Forces favour so far, they've pushed through Spain and a little into France, where their lines stop at Switzerland and loop around to the German-Polish border.
Interesting. It makes sense that this is what would happen, and am honestly happy that the Counter Force is doing well. (Take that Karen! Feel the wrath of non-magical people!)

6. They are sending them everywhere.
Makes sense. If they want to prepare Earth for a demonic invasion from another dimension which can appear anywhere, they need to be ready to defend against multiple invasions everywhere and not just one spot.

7. The leaders both know exactly what's going on and don't terribly mind turning their attention away from each other. The Public and Soldiers on the other hand, are more than willing to continue tearing into one another.
So the leaders, that know what is going on, are more focused on the big picture but the regular people still hate each other as expected. At least the people in charge aren't acting dumb.

11. Daiyu was the student of a sword and was semi-aware that magic existed through her training and her sister. Cuifen has spent a great amount of time with Monks through her life, and picked up a lot of peripheral knowledge of magic and mysticism. Cuifen always tried to take care of Daiyu, but fond that she was more than capable of doing it herself and was very independant, it always saddened her that she couldn't look after her, but at least she could protect her.
Cuifen is pretty awesome. Wonder why Inhuman Agility is locked, maybe she still has not fully recovered from losing her foot? Also Daiyu was the student of a sword which is pretty cool.

12. Gaia's original plan for you was to create someone who can lead future magical girls, her plan hasn't really changed, but she's been using you as an EMIYA until now.
Nothing new here.

13. You get to pick.

14. You'll get information on the area, a few things of interest to point you in the right direction and a bit of land in the area. Building, maintaining, housing and feeding people are your responsibility.
Nice. Glad we get to pick, and we get about what I expected. Not as much as I hoped, but what I expected.

15. The rank and file both hate and are afraid of you. The leaders are perfectly willing to work with you, to an extent. It's quite likely that they'll ask you to join them.
The rank and file are what I expected. We did kill quite a few of them. I am fine with working with the leaders. I will not work for the leaders. As for joining them, maybe. Depends on what they offer and what they want us to do. They seem nicer than the Clocktower at least but I won't blindly trust them until we know more about them. Annabelle seemed nice, but then again so did Morgan and Karen.

16. Karen is still somewhat fond of you, annoyed at Gaia for forcing this and generally disappointed at the general direction the world is going. The Enforcers are horribly confused as to what happened and angry at you.
Meh. I don't really like them that much either.

17. Most people don't know about you, of those that do you are viewed as horribly dangerous, but also a sad story. It's generally believed that you aren't doing any of this of your own will and are being forced to by someone else.
Well none of that is untrue. We are both horribly dangerous and a sad story. We didn't really plan any of this and most of the bad things we have done have been either unintended, us acting in a panic when what we loved was threatened, or from being ordered to by either a master manipulator or a literal god with mind influencing powers. So yes, they are actually right. Go anime creator! Show the world that we are not the horrible unfeeling monster that other people see us as!

18. Of those that know you, you are a very intimidating person. It's well known that you have a habit of appearing wherever you want and horribly outgun every other girl, having proved you have no qualms killing people. Most of them would run away if they saw you and didn't have a reason to stay. A few are very interested in meeting you, either to talk, fight or just curiosity. One really wants to find you.
So a varied reaction. At a guess, the one that really wants to find us is the fire one who showed up and took a dip in the lava. Here's hoping that she just wants to find us and say hello or something and not to kill us. It may be a fools hope, but I am sticking to it.

19. No-one was annoying you, you got the xp for not continuing your normal habit of murdering everyone you come across on a mission.
Stop. You jump left, the barest hints of a hand entering your range before being pulled back. Fucking. You rise above the trees, flying in the direction of the hand, a foot entering your range briefly. Running. Your speed finally picks up enough for you to feel them and you sigh. Small, almost child small. This better not be another fucking magical girl I swear to god. You've had enough of their shit today. You lift a hand to pulverise the forest they're hiding in when something files back at you and explodes, thin chains shooting out to hold you in place. Get off. They quickly melt before Omega, but your speed is gone and so are they.
I meant these things. The pack of probably-not-magical-girls that we decided not to murderize. What were they.

20. (Among the magical society) You are known for a lot of your work with the Clocktower, your fight in Portugal and both attacks against CT/CF bases. People who ask can probably find the path you tore through America as well.
So basically all our battles.

Huzzah! Definitely one of my first priorities.

Surprising. This makes Reinforcement:Iron, and its subsequent upgrades (because it obviously does. Probably steel, mithril, adamant or something like that) more important.

23. First, have Cerys stop being content being with Daiyu. Good luck with that. Death works.
Well the invisitext just fills me with confidence. Now then, Cerys may be content with just Daiyu but I am not! So the question is how to make Cerys not content with Daiyu without killing anybody. Truly a worthy challenge.

24. I plead the fifth.
Hey, you're not American! You can't do that! I will find out their favorite foods eventually...

25. Daiyu likes training and napping in the sun. Sabina likes taking care of her sword and people watching. Cuifen likes reading and cooking.

26. Daiyu would be happy to spend a day lazing about with you under a warm sun, or training together. Sabina would honestly be happy just spending time with you, I suppose if you were to go shopping in a sword maintenance shop though...
About what I expected honestly. Nice to know just in case.

27. If she didn't recognise you? Baffled at you blatantly flying. If she did? Either freak out or very, very carefully do as you say.
So we are not quite at the "Everyone recognizes you on sight" level, but it is still fairly likely for an average person to know about us.
 
[X] Shoot the smart one with Burning Rain, then put a lotta holes into the dumb one
 
[X] Shoot the smart one with Burning Rain, then put a lotta holes into the dumb one

15. The rank and file both hate and are afraid of you. The leaders are perfectly willing to work with you, to an extent. It's quite likely that they'll ask you to join them.

16. Karen is still somewhat fond of you, annoyed at Gaia for forcing this and generally disappointed at the general direction the world is going. The Enforcers are horribly confused as to what happened and angry at you.

17. Most people don't know about you, of those that do you are viewed as horribly dangerous, but also a sad story. It's generally believed that you aren't doing any of this of your own will and are being forced to by someone else.

18. Of those that know you, you are a very intimidating person. It's well known that you have a habit of appearing wherever you want and horribly outgun every other girl, having proved you have no qualms killing people. Most of them would run away if they saw you and didn't have a reason to stay. A few are very interested in meeting you, either to talk, fight or just curiosity. One really wants to find you.

20. (Among the magical society) You are known for a lot of your work with the Clocktower, your fight in Portugal and both attacks against CT/CF bases. People who ask can probably find the path you tore through America as well.
Really glad to get an Q&A, it eases my lingering frustration over the lack of info and disquiet over the direction Cerys going in considering the votes.

The war has been going in the Counter Forces favour so far, they've pushed through Spain and a little into France, where their lines stop at Switzerland and loop around to the German-Polish border.
Really prefer to weaken them.
One really wants to find you.
I would suspect that's Morgan.

If don't mind answering a few more question:

1: What's going on in South America, central and south east Asia and Oceania?

2: From outside perspectives like Light and others what's their psychological profile of Cerys, Sabina, Daiyu and Karen?

3: Is there extraterrestrial group or races we could encounter or know about earth that's not Unified L and D?

4: Is there sentient magical races that hid their selves from Humanity and would they know of the demon invasion and plans for it?

5: Apart from WIllow's unfortunate arrival, would there be more people coming from alternate universes?
 
[X] Shoot the smart one with Burning Rain, then put a lotta holes into the dumb one

Really glad to get an Q&A, it eases my lingering frustration over the lack of info and disquiet over the direction Cerys going in considering the votes.


Really prefer to weaken them.

I would suspect that's Morgan.

If don't mind answering a few more question:

1: What's going on in South America, central and south east Asia and Oceania?

2: From outside perspectives like Light and others what's their psychological profile of Cerys, Sabina, Daiyu and Karen?

3: Is there extraterrestrial group or races we could encounter or know about earth that's not Unified L and D?

4: Is there sentient magical races that hid their selves from Humanity and would they know of the demon invasion and plans for it?

5: Apart from WIllow's unfortunate arrival, would there be more people coming from alternate universes?
1. Not much of interest in South America, Asia is kinda caught up in China's Civil War and Japan has the ocean on lockdown.

2. Can you elaborate on this please?

3. Yes.

4. No.

5. Possibly, depends on a lot of things, also maybe how Hellfire Run goes.
 
2. Can you elaborate on this please?
I think all groups have character profile of them base on interaction, actions and psychologist interpretation of their mental state, however limited or afar it is depending on the groups that know them.
One profile set classified for privacy, another more general tidied set released for the public.

I would think Light know more of Cerys considering they treated Cery when she arrived same with Karen or Clocktower/Karen changing their understanding of the group actions after escape, same with Counterforce if they have analysis from limited surveillance and interaction since why would CF leaders willing to work with Cerys or ask her to join.
The Enforcers are horribly confused as to what happened and angry at you.

17. Most people don't know about you, of those that do you are viewed as horribly dangerous, but also a sad story. It's generally believed that you aren't doing any of this of your own will and are being forced to by someone else.
The public and private profiles would have be different if we get all those reactions so I'm curious as to what all the group know about our characters mental mindset and background same for Karen if they be able to dig it up.
And no just a few lines, soundbites would not satisfy their request for info considering all our actions up to now.
 
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Cuifen is pretty awesome. Wonder why Inhuman Agility is locked, maybe she still has not fully recovered from losing her foot?
The reason for that is Rukia posting an outdated sheet.


(Ebony Knight) Cuifen Feng

Stats

Health: 120
Base Damage: 90
Base Resilience: 20
Magic Modifier: N/A


Affinity: N/A
Weapon


Bare Fists
Level 3
Attacks Per Turn: 2
Affinities: N/A
Ability: Grapple | Double Hit
Abilities

Skillful Dodge
-Sacrifice 4 actions to dodge an incoming attack

Stand Amongst Mages
-Increase ApT by 300% per enemy Affinity

Inhuman Agility
-Capable of performing incredible feats of agility.

Never Outdone
-???​
Skills

Hand to Hand
Master. +100% Base Damage on unarmed attacks.
You know how to throw a punch and take one.


Mind the changed effect of Stand Amongst Mages
 
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So...does that work against multiple enemies at once?

Like, if she's facing a MG (Light, faith, story), another MG (darkness, faith, story), and 20 demons (Chaos).

Does she get 3 affinities worth, 5 affinities worth, or 26 affinities worth?
 
Surprising. This makes Reinforcement:Iron, and its subsequent upgrades (because it obviously does. Probably steel, mithril, adamant or something like that) more important.
No, not really.
Currently, we have LVL 20 Infinity Edge, with base damage 1545 and Juggernaut/Crush.
Currently, we have both Magic Surge, and Magic Modifier of 12733.
Currently, we have LVL 14 Reinforcement, with 70% extra base weapon damage.

At a minimum, we get (1545*1.7)x3 = 2626x3 = 7878 Damage from our sword with no Magic Modifier or Magic Surge.
We get (1545*1.7+12733)x3 = 2626x3 + 12733x3 = 46077 Damage from our sword with Magic Surge but no magic modifier roll.
With Reinforcement: Iron, this changes only slightly:
(1545*3)x3 = 4635x3 = 13905 Damage without magic modifier... And with Magic Surge it's 52104 Damage... Barely 6k (13%) extra damage.
Even with Reinforcement: Iron, the damage we deal with base weapon damage pales in comparison to what we deal with Magic Surge or magic modifier rolls.

Currently, it's no more than 17.1% sword damage, and will upgrade to no more than than 26.7% with Reinforcement: Iron, in a strike with a single Magic Surge activation.

Quite simply, there is exactly one shop item (Continental Collision) that might be worth purchasing prerequisites for, for a total of 600+850=1450 EXP. Everything else should be delayed until we can purchase Reality Crash.
 
Quite simply, there is exactly one shop item (Continental Collision) that might be worth purchasing prerequisites for, for a total of 600+850=1450 EXP. Everything else should be delayed until we can purchase Reality Crash.
Reinforcement is a Skill, not an Ability, which means that it's impossible for us to purchase it up to 20. We're only going it hit Iron's prereq through fighting/training.
 
I wasn't saying that we should get it right now or even soon. I still want to get to Reality Crash first. However, after we get Reality Crash and Continental Collision my original thought was that if we got unstoppable, there would be little point to reinforcement since it would only really matter about what we could one shot. Since that is not the case, and since we will be upgrading our sword for more actions anyway (for magic surge), doing more base damage actually might be useful. It is nowhere near my top priority, it just went from "nearly useless" to "someday it will be worth it to get". Besides as has been said it is a skill we can train so 750 exp to increase base damage by a third is useful, plus it most likely has more upgrades behind it.
 
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Meeting the prereq of Reinforcement: Iron (level 20 Reinforcement) changes the math slightly, since the Reinforcement multiplier will have changed from 1.7 to 2.0.

Regardless, once buying it is actually possible, Reinforcement: Iron is a good purchase if one of the following conditions is met:
  1. We expect to get into lots of fights where our MM will be negated. Two theoretically common ways for this to happen are enemies with Judgement/Smite or enemies who really like grappling (and won't just get stomped by Ignition Aura and/or Alpha & Omega).
  2. Our EXP gain rate slows to a crawl but we still have a desire to grow stronger and we've got lots of downtime to train.
  3. It becomes clear that trying to get Reality Crash is a futile endeavor (or one that won't happen until there's nothing left to fight).
For the first two conditions, it's worth noting that at level 20 Reinforcement, purchasing Iron for 750 EXP exactly doubles the damage the damage we deal when MM is negated and doubles the effect of any further increases to our Reinforcement skill through training.
 
Your math is wrong. It goes from (1+0.05*LVL) now to (1+0.1*LVL) formula, or from current 1.7, or 2.0 at LVL 20, to 3.0.

Purchasing it at Reinforcement 20 gives us an effective boost by x1.5, or x3 from not having it. Not doubling of damage.
 
[X] Shoot the smart one with Burning Rain, then put a lotta holes into the dumb one
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