Magical Girl Quest - The Fire That Burns

Didn't have internet while typing this, so I can't search the thread. It's annoying.

Okay, let's look over what we can actually buy and how it could help us here.

Lets start by ruling out the simple things. We can't afford anything in the shop, and flight is already at a milestone and high. Thermal Control is not very applicable.

Infinity Edge: we could level our weapon as high as 25. The damage and MM aren't that significant (700 and 250 more, respectively), but they do help, and more APT is always good. Also has the possibility of an ability, I guess. A decent offensive option that also helps with skill negates.

Plasma Sphere: at 1500 damage per level, this could be scaled up till it rivals Juggernaut Wave in raw damage. Max level is 18. I don't expect another ability, with the possible exception of collateral damage. Not of much interest here as it remains behind Juggernaut Wave and a Magic Surged attack in raw damage, but might be better if we get an intense heat modifier. Melt could maybe help if it has some ridiculous amount of HP.

Thermal Spears: scales at 500/level, with double cast. If we get spell boost to trigger, they do quite a lot, but otherwise do less than Plasma Sphere. They don't seem particularly advantaged against this opponent, either. Trying to freeze it could help, but i don't think levels would help much.

Halt: essentially a gamble on something new at level 20. Halt is incredibly useful here, in theory. Though A&O would remove it, it still should let us immobilize the thing, Magic Surge hit it, and repeat. Don't even need to spend EXP to try that.

Juggernaut Wave: The raw spell damage option. Also helps with CC prereq, I guess. Possibly abuse knockback to keep it at range? A good backup plan if halt doesn't work. Also has control issues if we level it, though,

Defenses: The current plan. I admit I suspect this thing will 1-hit us anyway, but they can't hurt.

The current plan I'm assembling is to try Halt-Magic Surge hit-repeat. Probably with our aura on for extra damage. If that fails, either blast it with Juggernaut Wave to keep it out of melee or engage it. Possibly try the freeze thing somewhere in there.

I'm leaning toward leveling our weapon. Extra APT help a lot for both damage and defense, via magic surge and skill. That said, other things should work.

From what I can tell, we are both being really aggressive/competitive about this, so I'm tentative about the more defensive knockback plan.

So...

[x] Plan Guillotine
-[x] Halt it, then attack it with magic surge. (Try to make sure it's a two-handed blow.) Repeat as necessary.
-[x] If that strategy can't work, play keepaway with juggernaut wave and fire projectiles while you heat up the area, then drop Plasma spheres on it.
-[x] Have ignition Aura on unless it harms Sabina.
-[x] Use A&O if there's a spell.

Can't remember if it hurts her or not and can't go check atm.

[x] EXP Plan The Best Defense
-[x] Infinity Edge 20 -> 25 (1100 exp)

Honestly the defenses exp plan should be fine too, as should leveling a spell. Can't really know which would help the most here.
 
Didn't have internet while typing this, so I can't search the thread. It's annoying.

Okay, let's look over what we can actually buy and how it could help us here.

Lets start by ruling out the simple things. We can't afford anything in the shop, and flight is already at a milestone and high. Thermal Control is not very applicable.

Infinity Edge: we could level our weapon as high as 25. The damage and MM aren't that significant (700 and 250 more, respectively), but they do help, and more APT is always good. Also has the possibility of an ability, I guess. A decent offensive option that also helps with skill negates.

Plasma Sphere: at 1500 damage per level, this could be scaled up till it rivals Juggernaut Wave in raw damage. Max level is 18. I don't expect another ability, with the possible exception of collateral damage. Not of much interest here as it remains behind Juggernaut Wave and a Magic Surged attack in raw damage, but might be better if we get an intense heat modifier. Melt could maybe help if it has some ridiculous amount of HP.

Thermal Spears: scales at 500/level, with double cast. If we get spell boost to trigger, they do quite a lot, but otherwise do less than Plasma Sphere. They don't seem particularly advantaged against this opponent, either. Trying to freeze it could help, but i don't think levels would help much.

Halt: essentially a gamble on something new at level 20. Halt is incredibly useful here, in theory. Though A&O would remove it, it still should let us immobilize the thing, Magic Surge hit it, and repeat. Don't even need to spend EXP to try that.

Juggernaut Wave: The raw spell damage option. Also helps with CC prereq, I guess. Possibly abuse knockback to keep it at range? A good backup plan if halt doesn't work. Also has control issues if we level it, though,

Defenses: The current plan. I admit I suspect this thing will 1-hit us anyway, but they can't hurt.

The current plan I'm assembling is to try Halt-Magic Surge hit-repeat. Probably with our aura on for extra damage. If that fails, either blast it with Juggernaut Wave to keep it out of melee or engage it. Possibly try the freeze thing somewhere in there.

I'm leaning toward leveling our weapon. Extra APT help a lot for both damage and defense, via magic surge and skill. That said, other things should work.

From what I can tell, we are both being really aggressive/competitive about this, so I'm tentative about the more defensive knockback plan.

So...

[x] Plan Guillotine
-[x] Halt it, then attack it with magic surge. (Try to make sure it's a two-handed blow.) Repeat as necessary.
-[x] If that strategy can't work, play keepaway with juggernaut wave and fire projectiles while you heat up the area, then drop Plasma spheres on it.
-[x] Have ignition Aura on unless it harms Sabina.
-[x] Use A&O if there's a spell.

Can't remember if it hurts her or not and can't go check atm.

[x] EXP Plan The Best Defense
-[x] Infinity Edge 20 -> 25 (1100 exp)

Honestly the defenses exp plan should be fine too, as should leveling a spell. Can't really know which would help the most here.
While you won't be getting a sheet, I don't mind sharing a few things:

1 - It has a lot of health. A lot.

2 - While it has a fairly strong basic attack, it isn't particularly inclined to use it right away.

3 - It's both faster than it looks and a fair bit smarter.

4 - You should probably expect this to be a long fight.

5 - It has some interesting abilities that may or may not activate depending on the phrasing of your battle plan. The hint I give is in it's name: Beast II
 
While you won't be getting a sheet, I don't mind sharing a few things:

1 - It has a lot of health. A lot.

2 - While it has a fairly strong basic attack, it isn't particularly inclined to use it right away.

3 - It's both faster than it looks and a fair bit smarter.

4 - You should probably expect this to be a long fight.

5 - It has some interesting abilities that may or may not activate depending on the phrasing of your battle plan. The hint I give is in it's name: Beast II
Taking this into account...

1: we definitely want to apply burn/melt for %health damage. Sidenote: enduring Magic Surged crush attacks takes a lot of HP. Each round we hit for...either 90k damage or 210k damage, depending on when crush applies. I'll go see if it's happened before. EDIT: cursory search says it hasn't.

2: Hmmm. So defenses are probably useful at first, at least.

3: Worth noting, but all this really tells me is that A&O won't work. Intellegence and speed shouldn't stop Halt. Does make playing keepaway awkward, I guess, but if we're doing that Halt doesn't work and it should still be better than melee. Maybe if it's bad at turning and we fly around it we could do better?

4: yeah...

5: I'll be honest. I have no idea what to make of this atm.

I think I'll hold off on rewriting the plan to see if anyone else notices/thinks of something. Unless the vote is closing soon?
 
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[X] Plan Spell Slinger
-[X] Prepare a volley of Ice-based Thermal Spears to launch at the enemy while you're still getting closer
-[X] Once in range, try to freeze two of its paws on one side (the front paws, or the left paws, or the right paws) to limit the Beast's mobility
-[X] Then launch a Plasma Sphere, Spell-Boosted (and if possible Magic-Surged), to the base of its tail. The tail seems large, deadly, and probably fast, best remove it early. Repeat until successful - and keep the locations you've hit with your spells suitably heated/chilled.
-[X] Obviously, avoid the tail lashing about, AND sudden leaps of multi-ton rock monster, AND it turning its head to glare/roar at you - you don't want to learn it has a sonic cannon.
-[X] Keep an eye on Sabina, just in case. If it looks like she's about to be caught right after teleporting, and you still have a spell available, Halt the Beast.

[X] Save EXP, for now
 
Changing plan.

[X] Plan Spell Slinger
-[X] Prepare a volley of Ice-based Thermal Spears to launch at the enemy while you're still getting closer
-[X] Once in range, try to freeze two of its paws on one side (the front paws, or the left paws, or the right paws) to limit the Beast's mobility
-[X] Then launch a Plasma Sphere, Spell-Boosted (and if possible Magic-Surged), to the base of its tail. The tail seems large, deadly, and probably fast, best remove it early. Repeat until successful - and keep the locations you've hit with your spells suitably heated/chilled.
-[X] Obviously, avoid the tail lashing about, AND sudden leaps of multi-ton rock monster, AND it turning its head to glare/roar at you - you don't want to learn it has a sonic cannon.
-[X] Keep an eye on Sabina, just in case. If it looks like she's about to be caught right after teleporting, and you still have a spell available, Halt the Beast.
 
[X] Plan Spell Slinger
-[X] Prepare a volley of Ice-based Thermal Spears to launch at the enemy while you're still getting closer
-[X] Once in range, try to freeze two of its paws on one side (the front paws, or the left paws, or the right paws) to limit the Beast's mobility
-[X] Then launch a Plasma Sphere, Spell-Boosted (and if possible Magic-Surged), to the base of its tail. The tail seems large, deadly, and probably fast, best remove it early. Repeat until successful - and keep the locations you've hit with your spells suitably heated/chilled.
-[X] Obviously, avoid the tail lashing about, AND sudden leaps of multi-ton rock monster, AND it turning its head to glare/roar at you - you don't want to learn it has a sonic cannon.
-[X] Keep an eye on Sabina, just in case. If it looks like she's about to be caught right after teleporting, and you still have a spell available, Halt the Beast.

[X] Save EXP, for now
 
Is it too good to hope to just be able to directly melt it with temperature control? It probably is. I can't remember about the last times(?) we tried to do this.

[X] Plan Spell Slinger
-[X] Prepare a volley of Ice-based Thermal Spears to launch at the enemy while you're still getting closer
-[X] Once in range, try to freeze two of its paws on one side (the front paws, or the left paws, or the right paws) to limit the Beast's mobility
-[X] Then launch a Plasma Sphere, Spell-Boosted (and if possible Magic-Surged), to the base of its tail. The tail seems large, deadly, and probably fast, best remove it early. Repeat until successful - and keep the locations you've hit with your spells suitably heated/chilled.
-[X] Obviously, avoid the tail lashing about, AND sudden leaps of multi-ton rock monster, AND it turning its head to glare/roar at you - you don't want to learn it has a sonic cannon.
-[X] Keep an eye on Sabina, just in case. If it looks like she's about to be caught right after teleporting, and you still have a spell available, Halt the Beast.
 
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[x] Plan Guillotine
-[x] Halt it, then attack it with magic surge. (Try to make sure it's a two-handed blow.) Repeat as necessary.
-[x] If that strategy can't work, play keepaway with juggernaut wave and fire projectiles while you heat up the area, then drop Plasma spheres on it.
-[x] Have ignition Aura on unless it harms Sabina.
-[x] Use A&O if there's a spell.

How far away is the beast and how fast will it reach us? Question that I probably already know the answer to, is the beast stronger than the Peluda? How fast does the juggernaut wave move?

Not sure how to turn these ideas into a plan or if these ideas are even viable so I'm just going to throw ideas out there.
  • Turning the ground we can into lava in an attempt to make it sink into lava but that probably wouldn't work due to it just moving out of the way(Sabina would need to somehow avoid the lava though). Alternatively we could turn all the earth beneath the surface into lava, then quickly turn the surface into lava to sink it into lava unless it has a sort of earth sense or otherwise catch on to what we are trying to do. Issue with this this tactic is that it took Cerys tenminutes to melt the ground in MINIBOSS SQUAD ROUND 2.
  • Obscuring its vision with fire like in MINIBOSS SQUAD ROUND 2 but the the beast may be able to track us via magic given that was how it found us(Also again friendly fire problem unless we can somehow exclude Sabina from the fire).
  • Turning the air into plasma while not melting ourselves and Sabina.
  • Directly melting the beast by directly increasing its temperature if it is somehow possible.
  • Targeting just a single body part like the eye or tail with Halt and have the beast destroy/damage itself by moving while the body part is halted? Halt spell description simply says "Halt all movement from the target." It doesn't impose any restrictions on what the target can be.
  • Have Sabina teleport herself into the beast's mouth and attack it from the inside. What could go wrong(sarcasm)? Given how huge the beast is, its tongue could probably be a blunt weapon.
  • Halting beast then attempting to disable/sever leg with juggernaut wave or magic surge.
Finally a few silly questions. What does a magic sunburn feel like and what he symptoms of it, if magic sunburns are a literal thing? Was Sabina inspired to name her sword, Soul Edge, after Infinity Edge? How outdated is Morgan's character sheet?

Sorry for waiting about a month to start taking part in this discussion, being a bit incoherent, and just posing a bunch of questions. Is the vote closed?
 
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[x] Plan Guillotine
-[x] Halt it, then attack it with magic surge. (Try to make sure it's a two-handed blow.) Repeat as necessary.
-[x] If that strategy can't work, play keepaway with juggernaut wave and fire projectiles while you heat up the area, then drop Plasma spheres on it.
-[x] Have ignition Aura on unless it harms Sabina.
-[x] Use A&O if there's a spell.
 
Her Muse
"Do you ever wonder why we exist?"

The quiet question interrupts your similarly quiet relaxation and you look away from the slowly drifting clouds as Sabina sits next to you, her fingers idly moving over her diary as she stares off into space.

"I did, before." A long time ago, when you were back in America with your mother.

"Did you figure anything out?" One of her fingers flips open the front page and she looks down, slowly reading through each line.

"I decided it didn't matter why, because someone needed me." You left the someone unsaid, as plainly obvious as it was.

She hums as she looks down at her own writing, indulging in her desperate attempt to keep herself her. "No-one here needs me." Not... untrue, but maybe a bit harsh. "I can't remember what I was feeling when I wrote these entries." She lifts the book a bit higher and reads aloud to you: "I met this scary girl today, she's calling herself a magical girl, and apparently that's what I am too. She seems nice, but a bit crazy, I hope we can be friends." She drops the book back into her lap, lifting her gaze from the words and focusing at some point in the air in front of her. "I probably have a few months at most before I'm so different that I won't even remember writing these, let alone what I was feeling."

She sighs, her sword manifesting in her lap without any conscious action. "What point is there in existing if I won't even be me?" She looks down, meeting her own gaze in the reflection of her weapon. You blink when you notice that the eyes staring back up at you from the blade look dull, the dark green you are familiar with faded closer to light pale green. You blink again and the reflection shifts on it's own, moving to look at you for a split second before the other girl drops her weapon into her lap, leaving you to wonder if it was just a trick of the light.

"I can't answer that for you." You don't like the feeling sitting in your chest as you watch her listlessly gaze into her lap. But really, what could I do? "All I can do is remember you." For whatever comfort that is worth.

The two of you sit in silence for a long time and you take the opportunity to try and burn this moment into your memory.

When she eventually moves, there is a resigned air about her movements, her sword hanging loosely from her grip as she takes a shuddering breath. "Well, no point dragging out the inevitable." She lifts her swo̴ȑ̷̡d̵͛ͅ ̵̦̩́â̵̧̯̽n̸͙͂̑d̵̠͊͑-̷̜̻̒-

"Do you ever wonder why we exist?"

The solemn question interrupts your quiet vigil and you look away from the heavy clouds quickly moving across the sky as Sabina stands next to you, a small frown on her face as she leans on her sword.

"Sometimes." It wasn't a thought you liked thinking on, especially now you knew that beings of some sort had probably created the universe.

"Did you ever have an epip̸̮͋h̷͔̒a̶̹̽ny?" She gazes out as a light rain starts to patter onto the rooftop, a slight wind ruffling your hair as the weather grows wor̴̦̎s̵̯̓è̸̥-̸̗́

N̵̳̻̞͗o̵̡̯͚͒͋̈,̶̭̙̟̃̿ ̵̯̙̌̐̚ȉ̷͓̰͙͝ṫ̶̳̖̉̈́ ̵̰̼̅w̶̟̉̽o̷̭̬͑u̴̞̗̝͌̅̈l̶̘̟̇͊d̶͎͍̊̽͐n̵̥̯̒̍'̴̡͎̏t̷͚͈̋ ̴̨̍b̵͇̦̦͌ẽ̸̥̱̦̊ ̵̺̜͘l̸̠̦̭͛̆̐i̶̖̳̰̾k̵̭̑e̶̮̼̖̓̌́ ̷̣̒t̷͉́h̷̨̼̀̅̂í̷̗̠̔̈́s̵̙̲̥͝
 
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And to think this is on one of the easiest difficulties. Mind you, we did choose really badly on several decisions, but still...

At least nowadays we can take pretty much 95% of those on earth, so we have that going for us, at least.
 
Ok, time to dissect this, and formulate a theory of what is going on here.

Based on the last line of the update:
No, it wouldn't be like this
That strikes me as something that someone who were acting as a story teller would say, as they throw out something they wrote.

Additionally, the narration of the scene changes to use different, slightly fancier words the second time around:
The quiet question interrupts your similarly quiet relaxation and you look away from the slowly drifting clouds as Sabina sits next to you, her fingers idly moving over her diary as she stares off into space.
versus:
The solemn question interrupts your quiet vigil and you look away from the heavy clouds quickly moving across the sky as Sabina stands next to you, a small frown on her face as she leans on her sword.

There are additional changes in the description and wording between the first and second iteration, too:
  • The weather goes from there being a few clouds, to heavy clouds and rain.
  • Sabina doesn't have her journal in the second iteration, and instead leans on her sword.
  • Cerys doesn't mention her mother in the second iteration, and instead brings up her thoughts on the existence of a creator.
This leads me to two potential conclusions:
  1. This story is about the author writing the quest
  2. Someone or something is interfering with Cerys and co., acting like a narrator or author.
Given that, as far as I remember, we haven't had any meta segments, it is very likely that 1 is not the correct interpretation, which leaves us with 2, and brings up a number of follow-up questions regarding the identity and motives of the person involved.

My initial theory from our brief discussion on discord (that the glitches were Gaia modifying/erasing the memories of Sabina and Cerys) was confirmed to be false by Rukia:
I don't mind answering that one
No
To both who you think it is and what you think they are doing

So that means that Gaia isn't the one doing this, and that the glitches are not memories being modified, and are probably more significant changes.

Where exactly this leaves us, I do't know, but I wanted to get my thoughts out there for discussion.
 
Well, given that Sabina raising her sword is what ends the first iteration, I would say that she's the one causing it. At the very least, what she did with her sword triggered something there.

That said, I don't think this is actually happening right now given where we left off in the previous update. My money is on a flashback, probably to a dream sequence or something given the lack of context for anything, it does -after all- seem like a particularly dreamlike quality is present.
 
She W̸̺̪̱͗͛͊̐͠ớ̵͇̙̈́n̸̢͍͍͂̍͘͘̕'̷̢̞͍̤̃t̶͕͘ Can't HelpT̶̖͔̿h̵̙̙̏̕e̶̖̓m̷̞̠̍ It
"Was it worth it, in the end?" Tired eyes gaze down at you from that unreachable mountain top, forever edging just a little bit above of your grasp. "Even when you understand how pointless all of this is?" You take the moment of respite offered, breathing harshly as the city burns around the two of you, the distant groan of concrete and metal as the greatest constructs of mankind give way to their sheer weight.

"Pointless for you to continue."

She rolls h̷e̸r̸ e̷̖̅ȳ̶̱e̸̮͊s̸̱͠

"Do you think she found the power she was looking for?" Her tired gaze meets your own through her blonde bangs as you breathe harshly, carefully cradling the body in your arms, your power letting you ignore the molten heat radiating from her skin. "She only did it b̴̛̯͜e̴̞̜͂͋c̸̯͖̈́a̸̫̞̋ụ̶̱́s̶̩̪̓͠e̶̦̽͘ ̸͚͗s̴͙̖͛̈́h̶͓̙̃̄e̸͚̅̈́ͅ ̷̞͛ḧ̶̡́̇a̸̻͐d̸̹̔ ̷̝͖̓̈́ť̴̠͈̉ǒ̸̻͍ because of you." You both ignore the slightly deranged laughter from somewhere nearby, the m̸o̶n̶s̴t̸e̷r̸ girl in question basking in the heat, joyous at finally having tracked you down.

"I never wanted this." She huffs out a short laugh, her entire body seeming to crack and look in five directions for a split second.

"None of us wanted this, and yet... here we are." D̷̯̽á̷̢i̵͓͈͒͂ÿ̶̱́ǘ̸͔̞̚ ̴͈̏͒f̴̨̿͘r̶̨̔̈ͅó̸͓͊ẃ̶̝̈n̴̺̙͒s̵͚̗̈̏ ̴̻̮́̍f̵̲͝r̴͙̚ö̸̱́̈́m̴͎͖͒ ̴̺́ͅy̶͙̔ö̵̳́̐u̴͓̔r̴̩̋͑ ̵̑͜͠ṣ̴̓̍ï̷̡d̷̺͕́e̸̲͗ Neither of you break your staring contest as you feel Daiyu arrive w̷̰̕h̸̙̃a̴̩͆t̶̬͋'̴̺͋ṩ̸ ̷͖͐e̵͖͌v̴̫̿e̴͔͋n̴̪͊ ̸̥̈́t̷͋͜h̴̯̅e̴̛ͅ ̴̝̇p̷̓͜o̷͈͠i̸͍̍n̵̜͘t̸̶̙̜̓̑

Ÿ̸̪̖o̴̧̡̍u̷̪̖͆̏ ̸̹͐̓ś̶̵̶̷̶̶̸̶̟̩̲̻i̶̵̶̸̵̴̷̷̴̶̵̼̪̱̇̂͛͠ͅg̴̵̷̷̴̷̴̷̵̸̱̗̠̋̆͛ͅh̸̵̴̸̶̵̷̸̵̨͔̱̤̓͂,̷̫͖̦̌̽͐͝ ̷̢͎͌̈͐m̶̖̃ä̷͉̂̽y̶̤̿̂̇͝b̵͓͎̉͐ͅe̷̡̓͛ ̶̤̘̈t̷̝͔̮͛̈́͜õ̶̙̹̞̝m̸̦̺̞͌̽̇o̴̷̸̶̷̵̴̴̷̸̼̥̫͆̑͒́ṛ̷̴̷̵̷̴̷̵̶̟̞̐̿͝r̵̸̸̸̴̵̷̯̽͊̈́o̸͕̲̦̅͠ẃ̸̼̟̩́̈́ͅ
 
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