Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)

On the subject of Templates; well it depends upon her LCM results but I think Vista could be a good candidate for the Extinction Knight Template.
As the only person who knows the LCM results, I would strongly recommend you not count your chickens before they hatch. Particularly as Standstill has already said she would need a template to justify the hassle of rebranding and moving to an entirely different city, and you can only give one every 6 weeks.

Now I totally agree with you that Missy (the name and image of Vista technically belong to the Protectorate) would be a totally badass little cyborg ninja, but there are other and honestly better ways to do that than spending a template on her.

EDIT: I actually have an idea for her that would be cool as hell, but it's super unconventional, high moderate risk high reward, and requires a non-template Device because one of the tricks just can't be done with a template.
 
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[X] Hang out with another character(s). This is by definition a non-combat activity.
-[X] Vista seemed pretty shaken in the wake of her mastering and did wait in the suite for hours for you. Make it up to her by having some fun chill time together; a vacation from your vacation.

[X] Explore somewhere on Earth Bet. A location must be included. You may bring 1-3 other characters with you.
-[X] Kayleigh drags you and Laura out to a gun range because apparently not knowing the difference between a revolver and semi-automatic is a sin. Fortunately Samantha came so you aren't the worst one there.
-[X] While you are out you make sure to scan both of them for Linker Cores and give them the magic explanation.
 
So this:

Or this:

Or even this:


Deploying drones that shoot your costume onto you is certainly going with the theme, I guess. Vista in Mauling Snarks might even be able to pull it off.

The other option is to just do both as you say, which might be needful if Tim needs more time to brew up mutagen(s) and Devices AND we probably want to scan them first to determine what if anything Kayleigh even needs?

If we give templates, which I much prefer for the people closest to us, he needs a week and a half to make enough Devices to let us make templates with only a two week cooldown. If we want to arm them before going duck wabbit Fallen hunting, that only takes three weeks of preparation for both Laura and Kayleigh, provided they don't have valuable rare skills. I think it would be another two full weeks for Tim to make the mutagen cocktail and devices for Missy.

People not joining our main cast are good candidates for Templates. Standstill has all but explicitly been described as willing to take a template and move to Philly for rebranding, meaning we could get her as a significant character, too.

Vote 14.1

And with my above post just muddying up the waters some more, let's get started with the actual vote!

[ ] Hang out with another character(s). This is by definition a non-combat activity.
[ ] Go on patrol. You can vote for one non-Samantha character to join you if you want.
[ ] Explore somewhere on Earth Bet. A location must be included. You may bring 1-3 other characters with you.
[ ] Explore another world. If you do not select a world where Taylor has been or already knows about, one will be selected randomly.
[ ] Train, either in the real world or in Perfect Storm's simulator. SPECIFY which spell to work on.
[ ] Write-in (subject to my approval)

[X] Hang out with another character(s). This is by definition a non-combat activity.
-[X] The Adepts, Lacey, and Tim. Get the current mages we know together.
-[X] Discuss the Fallen having an apparent mage working with/for them. Warn them that they may be targets as a result.
-[X] Have Lacey and Maclibuin discuss their powers and being support capes who don't have to go fight.

[X] Explore somewhere on Earth Bet. A location must be included. You may bring 1-3 other characters with you.
-[X] Kayleigh drags you and Laura out to a gun range because apparently not knowing the difference between a revolver and semi-automatic is a sin. Fortunately Samantha came so you aren't the worst one there.
-[X] While you are out you make sure to scan both of them for Linker Cores and give them the magic explanation.

I really wnt to change "the magic explanation" to "The Talk", but it would be needless complexity for SW to dig through. Thus, the joke remains separate from the vote.
 
I also think this combination works best, since I'm not too sure about mixing Laura and Missy too much yet.


[X] Social with Sarah, see how she's settling back in with the Protectorate and how she's dealing with magic.

[X] Explore somewhere on Earth Bet. A location must be included. You may bring 1-3 other characters with you.
-[X] Kayleigh drags you and Laura out to a gun range because apparently not knowing the difference between a revolver and semi-automatic is a sin. Fortunately Samantha came so you aren't the worst one there.
-[X] While you are out you make sure to scan both of them for Linker Cores and give them the magic explanation.
 
As the only person who knows the LCM results, I would strongly recommend you not count your chickens before they hatch. Particularly as Standstill has already said she would need a template to justify the hassle of rebranding and moving to an entirely different city, and you can only give one every 6 weeks.

Now I totally agree with you that Missy (the name and image of Vista technically belong to the Protectorate) would be a totally badass little cyborg ninja, but there are other and honestly better ways to do that than spending a template on her.
While the confirmation that Standstill would be willing, with a Template, to shift to Philly is nice and all I can't say I'm particularly thrilled with the idea. To start with she is essentially an OC (sure she is mentioned in canon but she is basically Daphne Greengrass) who has appeared in a couple scenes here but was only really characterized in her Interlude. She might grow on me over time with enough exposure but so far she hasn't really shown anything that makes her worth the effort.

Edit: Actually in hindsight Standstill isn't even Daphne Greengrass, that would be Browbeat, since I can't name a single other fic she has appeared in. Standstill isn't even Fay Dunbar levels of popular and she wasn't even named in the books or movies. End Edit

The other big sticking point is that she is Protectorate. Missy can get away with stuff precisely because she is a Ward so they don't really have much meaning way of punishing her. Standstill meanwhile is not only Protectorate, and reliant upon them paying her wage (something we can't yet), she is a turncoat twice over having betrayed the Protectorate for the Adepts and the Adepts for the Protectorate. Swapping from New York to Philly, especially so close to when Missy is almost certain to be leaving the Wards, combined with the existing fears of Team Calamity's growing power bloc and she is going to be under all manner of scrutiny. Greatly reducing her use as a Template Mage.


As for their being better ways for Missy the Cyborg Ninja well there might be more efficient methods but I'm not sure about them being better. Templates are straight up better then non-Templates both in spell count and learning speed. The new system has made non-Template mages dramatically more attractive then they used to be but they are still inferior. Which is good since creating Templates is a pretty major game mechanic and if random chance was better we'd never use it given the time and resource cost.

Now certainly using a Template on an AAA-Rank Vista compared to a D-Rank Vista is vastly less efficient. However one of the key "issues" with the quest has been players just straight up not being interested in recruiting mage candidates and those people we are interested in not being viable. There is a reason we've only created two Template mages and both have been background support characters Taylor has worked closely with and known for years*. We've pretty firmly established a pattern of not handing out Templates to people we don't trust 100%. Missy is basically the only character remaining who fits that profile.

*Tim was actually first named in 1.8 by Danny.

As for counting chickens; I mean the only way this discussion isn't viable is if after everything Missy ends up flubbing the LCM and doesn't develop a Linker Core and that goes against multiple WoG statements from you. Maybe if she has an AAA-Rank core and a Rare Skill it might be worth not giving her a template but even then it would be a hard sell for me.


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EDIT: I actually have an idea for her that would be cool as hell, but it's super unconventional, high moderate risk high reward, and requires a non-template Device because one of the tricks just can't be done with a template.
Just noticed this right before posting. I'll be interested to see what your idea is. Not sure I'll be sold on it however given that Templates are safe vs. this "moderate risk", and gambling has never turned out well for us in MGET, and the dearth of viable alternatives for Templating.
 
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As for counting chickens; I mean the only way this discussion isn't viable is if after everything Missy ends up flubbing the LCM and doesn't develop a Linker Core and that goes against multiple WoG statements from you. Maybe if she has an AAA-Rank core and a Rare Skill it might be worth not giving her a template but even then it would be a hard sell for me.
Let me put it another way then. After going through the effort of figuring out a way to give a fan favorite character magic after she flubbed her role, designing her final result, and subtly running that final result through a focus group…

You're going to have a hard time selling ME on giving her a template, to the point I can damn near guarantee I will veto or just ignore any vote to that effect. Because me bending over backwards for you and then hearing "just give her a template" is a major "fuck you and fuck all the effort you put into giving us something we wanted". It's downright insulting.

I was trying to be nice and gentle about it, but let's just be clear here.
 
You're going to have a hard time selling ME on giving her a template, to the point I can damn near guarantee I will veto or just ignore any vote to that effect. Because me bending over backwards for you and then hearing "just give her a template" is a major "fuck you and fuck all the effort you put into giving us something we wanted". It's downright insulting.

I was trying to be nice and gentle about it, but let's just be clear here.
Understandable, but at the same time people are not incorrect in saying that the dice have a noted preference of laughing at us at inopportune moments.
 
If the LCM turns out poorly, could we still use a template later?
I mean, the implication is that it won't go poorly, but having it as a backup plan should be palatable for Silently Watches. I might be wrong on that front...
I mean, I've said multiple times that I won't be rolling dice for Missy and have everything but one aspect planned out… :rolleyes:

But sure. Template as a backup plan is fine. It's going in with the idea that no matter what I reveal you're giving her a template that pisses me off.
 
Still personally opposed to giving her a device or Template should she have a Linker Core, but that's just me. *shrug*
If we are trying to bring in Laura to Team Calamity (name pending) then if Kayleigh has a core they will likely be a package deal given how tight knit they are.

And... honestly. Who else do we have that we can even marginally trust with magic on the scale PF can grant? Taylor doesnt have a big social circle.

Edit: and having another combat mage would be a godsend when we go to burn the Fallen.
 
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Let me put it another way then. After going through the effort of figuring out a way to give a fan favorite character magic after she flubbed her role, designing her final result, and subtly running that final result through a focus group…

You're going to have a hard time selling ME on giving her a template, to the point I can damn near guarantee I will veto or just ignore any vote to that effect. Because me bending over backwards for you and then hearing "just give her a template" is a major "fuck you and fuck all the effort you put into giving us something we wanted". It's downright insulting.

I was trying to be nice and gentle about it, but let's just be clear here.

*crosses fingers and hopes for raccoon*
 
I mean, i'm down for it. Raccoon ears are great, as i'm sure sam would attest to.
*public reaction*
"Did you guys just abduct Vista from the Wards?"
"She's OBVIOUSLY not Vista, she's got Raccoon ears"
"That doesn't... well... I mean, your other melee focused Cape has raccoon features..."

*smash cut to Sam glomping Vista and calling her daughter while on patrol*
"What? But...?"
"Shhh, they don't know that"
 
Random thought; I wonder if it's possible to transplant (or clone) a linker core.
Yes but.

Yes, it is possible. Cloning Linker Cores is exactly what Immortal Assimilation Engine does. It's high-level work befitting a Class 1 Lost Logia, but obviously possible. Transplanting is also possible since it's a physical organ of differentiated grey matter cells in the spinal cord.

But, it's a dangerous thing, particularly if your plan involves using it to give magic to non-mages. See, mages don't just need a Linker Core. They also need the genes to make the proteins and enzymes that clear out all the byproducts a Linker Core produces. Otherwise, all you'd do is give someone a Linker Core only for them to soon progress into mana poisoning. Life expectancy following that procedure would be a mere 31 days.
 
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Yes but.

Yes, it is possible. Cloning Linker Cores is exactly what Immortal Assimilation Engine does. It's high-level work befitting a Class 1 Lost Logia, but obviously possible. Transplanting is also possible since it's a physical organ of differentiated grey matter cells in the spinal cord.

But, it's a dangerous thing, particularly if your plan involves using it to give magic to non-mages. See, mages don't just need a Linker Core. They also need the genes to make the proteins and enzymes that clear out all the byproducts a Linker Core produces. Otherwise, all you'd do is give someone a Linker Core only for them to soon progress into mana poisoning. Life expectancy following that procedure would be a mere 31 days.
Good to know. I had wondered how the templates upgraded linker core rating.
 
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