Basically, Sere (IIRC) was brought in to BB as a counter to Skitter's insect swarms. He still got Skitter'd.
Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
- Thread starter Silently Watches
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what Archeo said, plus the fact i fell into the MC Quest/CYOA/Game Protagonist pitfall of only seeing what the 'choice tree' had put as the only valid options even the 'go wild with details' got interpreted as 'go wild with details about what you would do' and forgot about anyone else present.
OTOH the choice was about who would be a priority target, it was us who choose the method of implementing it and we failed to take into account communication and allies.
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At least we stayed in-character that way >>w>>
I mean, I didn't vote, but I was basically consciously disregarding him, because I (misremembered) Sere as being...less than non-lethal. (Hence a great opponent for a bug Master, but not really otherwise).
I never said that was what Dragon was looking for, just that it was the direction the other person who I don't want to look up was thinking of.
At least, that is what came to mind myself reading the posts.
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Yo. First post on SV. Read the FFN comp and I dig it. I remember something Silently Watches said in the AN, too- you might find more options if you actually scan more people.
So, guys.
Why have you not scanned Vista and Kayleigh for Linker Cores yet?
One is a good girl with no powers to overwrite, and the other has a modular prosthetic arm that could have who knows what toys added in, if she could actually power them. The worst thing that can happen is they don't have cores.
Also Cailleach, because someone has an ice affinity. If nothing else, her having a core would give them reasons to be witchy together, which would fit into a certain bubbly friend's matchmaking scheme nicely.
Anyway, I'm gonna go read the last ten or so pages of between threadmark posts to catch up, and see about making myself productive here.
EDIT: Turns out Slick beat me to mentioning Kayleigh like eight pages back.
So, guys.
Why have you not scanned Vista and Kayleigh for Linker Cores yet?
One is a good girl with no powers to overwrite, and the other has a modular prosthetic arm that could have who knows what toys added in, if she could actually power them. The worst thing that can happen is they don't have cores.
Also Cailleach, because someone has an ice affinity. If nothing else, her having a core would give them reasons to be witchy together, which would fit into a certain bubbly friend's matchmaking scheme nicely.
Anyway, I'm gonna go read the last ten or so pages of between threadmark posts to catch up, and see about making myself productive here.
EDIT: Turns out Slick beat me to mentioning Kayleigh like eight pages back.
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She's also got less common sense/discretion than God gave a rock.
LancerisDead
Definitely not a cat
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- Buenos Aires
Oh come on, she's not that bad! Sure, she may not be Philly's brightest, but her heart is in the right place!
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At least she isn't a raging traumatized psychopath...?
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Sounds like a sidekick to me. XD
Unless she decides to go full support, or has the merits of such a choice impressed upon her, anyway. I don't think anyone here would say no to a pocket healer or an extra tinker.
Plus, she CAN keep a secret. She's kept Cailleach's for a while. She chose
not to keep Taylor's. Which I don't think will happen again since her new favorite ship isn't at stake.
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And this is supposed to improve my opinion of her...how?
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- Russia
She's only dumb when she wants to I guess.
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- Mexico
She is dead for me, that she chose not to keep it with her is only proof that she isn't trustworthy.
Cailleach I would accept as a FRIEND however.
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technically Kayleigh is a good, smart and loyal girl... with skewed priorities... so much like an unpowered, saner Pinkie Pie.
a good friend, once you hit her with a clue by four and arm her with personal shields because her skwewd priorities makes her ignore common sense.
a good friend, once you hit her with a clue by four and arm her with personal shields because her skwewd priorities makes her ignore common sense.
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Wow, did I ever underestimate how much you guys don't like her. @.@
I just wanted to point out the low-hanging fruit that wouldn't have any of those 'but they'd lose their powers!' problems. Just install a template and go.
And we could have scanned both in one social action, too! Just have Taylor call up Kayleigh (because I don't remember her getting Cailleach's number) to get together with the ice girl who's been on her mind with this gang stuff, remember she's been looking for mages, and bam!
...oh well, at a 5% chance, she probably doesn't have one anyway.
I just wanted to point out the low-hanging fruit that wouldn't have any of those 'but they'd lose their powers!' problems. Just install a template and go.
And we could have scanned both in one social action, too! Just have Taylor call up Kayleigh (because I don't remember her getting Cailleach's number) to get together with the ice girl who's been on her mind with this gang stuff, remember she's been looking for mages, and bam!
...oh well, at a 5% chance, she probably doesn't have one anyway.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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- Ohio
You haven't quite cottoned on to how big a deal the Unwritten Rules are in Worm, especially the part about secret identities and unmasking. Considering the plotpoint that introduced us to the Adepts, I find that rather surprising.
LancerisDead
Definitely not a cat
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I mean, they're called "unwritten" for a reason; most normies have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, and by what we've been told she's got a pretty pink idea of what cape life is, so she doesn't have quite the context of what exactly could've happened.
I'm not saying that she didn't do something stupid, but she's far from ill-intended.
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So we want to turn her into a Usagi/Serena Tsukino analog?
Of course, if we did give her a device or template (infinite enhancement of course), she'd have to get a cat[girl] familiar.
Otherwise how could we fit the cliche of the ditzy magical girl?
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That's how I felt about it.
I dunno, I just always want to think the best of the happy characters in series' like this. It's not like she's ignorant or entirely naive, we saw some of what she thinks of the drug problems in the city, which I'm pretty sure was aimed at Winter Hill, even. We don't know why Cailleach is with them. She probably owes someone. I would really like seeing Kayleigh going hero turning Cai to Team Witch to protect her best friend from what she knows is out there.
It might also be a terrible idea just from the 'turning Cai' angle.
But we won't know if it's even an option unless she gets scanned. And I think now after the Adept stuff is the perfect time for Taylor to start scanning everyone, since it'll be on her mind.
I just wish I knew who else was a valid addition to 'everyone' besides the three I already mentioned. Speaking of, the only reason I can think of for why not to scan Vista is that she might actually take the 'give up your powers' deal, which I think is a bad idea. I just want to put some shields in her arm so she doesn't lose the other one. DX
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Circus. If we build on that rapport a bit more, I could dig me a magic Circus. They will try to be Taylor's Tuxedo Mask, and they will fail.
And I will love every second of it.
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- All around you
The only reason I'm apprehensive about scanning is we don't have a way to scan someone without their awareness. At least I remember if we do or not.
My reasoning is that, if we scan people, they're going to ask what did we just do. Scan? For what? The hell is a linker core? People pay attention when a Tinker(which everyone beside Dragon and Triumvirate, believe we are) starts scanning people.
Vista? Okay. We're already friends and we also gave her an awesome cyborg arm. We could probably scan her when we give her the new upgraded arm without any fuss.
Cailleach? 1. We barely know her. 2. She's a villain from Winter Hill.
My reasoning is that, if we scan people, they're going to ask what did we just do. Scan? For what? The hell is a linker core? People pay attention when a Tinker(which everyone beside Dragon and Triumvirate, believe we are) starts scanning people.
Vista? Okay. We're already friends and we also gave her an awesome cyborg arm. We could probably scan her when we give her the new upgraded arm without any fuss.
Cailleach? 1. We barely know her. 2. She's a villain from Winter Hill.
LancerisDead
Definitely not a cat
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- Buenos Aires
Which is why we are looking at people already close to Taylor. All that weirdness will be a lot easier to get over if she already has a good amount of goodwill.
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- Ural, Russia, Earth
Agree about Vista, but I should point that she don't need to be a mage to power up whatever toys will be built-in in her arm. Tim implanted reactor in her for that purpose.
About Kayleigh, well, other people already said everything before me.
The only reason she wasn't bitch slapped or ranted on is because Silently didn't give us an opportunity and I don't think we want to burn a social action on her.
Actually, have a rant:
"You know what is a difference between me and Cailleach? I am a hero, while she's a villain. You know what that means? That means she don't need to worry that this night I'll burn her home to cinders, or that tomorrow one of her family members will be kidnapped and drugged with Tinkertech drugs to ensure her cooperation, or that snipers will wait her near school."
Kayleigh tried to object, but Taylor stopped her with a wave of her hand.
"Yes, yes, I know what you want to say. She will never do such a thing, she's a good person, etcetera, etcetera. Maybe you're even correct, I don't know. That doesn't matter. What matters is that I entrusted you a secret that is very important for me. A secret that can get people killed. You promised to keep it and immediately betrayed my trust. And for what, just for your amusement?"
Taylor turned away from Kayleigh, her voice sounded so tired.
"The moment I actually believed that you're my friend, you backstabbed me. Go away, Kayleigh. Go away and never pretend to be my friend again."
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This is why I mentioned 'valid' entries to 'everyone'. The only ones she's formed enough of a rapport with right now to consider pursuing besides Vista all have issues. The Triumvirate are scary, Miss Militia is Protectorate and on the rocks but we also know she's been a bit dishonest so we trust her even less than Taylor would right now, Cailleach and Circus are villains and need a bit of reforming or to fess up the hopefully reasonable reason for being in a gang, and Kayleigh... Yeah read below.
Most need some building up, but to get that, there has to be some end goal in sight, right? It's kinda the whole reason I brought it up. To put what might be new or forgotten ideas in people's heads.
I'm a little worried about her blood sugar, needing to power more than just the arm. I'm sure tricklefed batteries and other workarounds would help, but nanoha tech doesn't throw out quite as many rules as tinker tech can. I'm not sure a few hundred spare calories a day would be enough for fancier toys.
That said, I will defer to those more experienced with either setting.
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I dunno. I was thinking that Taylor was also pretty new to the cape world still, and might not be as harsh as she ought to be about it. I don't recall any sort of contact between them after it happened, hostile or friendly, and I think I let assumptions get the better of me. We've seen her worrying about her dad before, so it's clearly something she's thought about. I was wrong. There probably is bad blood there now, and I just haven't seen it.
RoninSword
Sky God
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- Canada
Pretty sure that since the reactor functions on her body's sugar, all that really means is she would need to eat more to compensate for the energy used. After all, the tech used is properly designed prosthetics, including any sort of combat arm. Those details were likely ironed out when the idea was first implemented. And the Gadgeteer template would be very strange if there tech has those issues. Especially since IAE would have used Gadgeteers in the past.
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Hrm. You're right. I forgot the inside of her arm is probably at least the size of a small building. Capacitors for days. More than enough to run a laser and maybe a rudimentary shield for the arm itself, if there are any that aren't technically spells.
Still why I'm hoping she can magic at all. I doubt anything close to a full body shield would be possible without it.
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Bah, I've been too hung up on the shield idea. Heavy armor and some way to make it lighter would serve the same function. And considering Devices aren't heavy at all despite being bigger on the inside... Yeah, I've been severely overthinking this.
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Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
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- Right behind you
A few random replies.
I believe I've mentioned it before, but Kayleigh was not acting out of any sort of malice. She's a not-too-bright romance-reading teenage girl who, yes, is a bit of a bimbo. She thought playing matchmaker between her cape best friend and cape new friend was a great idea and justified revealing Taylor's identity to one person whom she already knew wouldn't take advantage of that fact (as shown by the unmasking scene in 9.1).
That rant won't show up, and for a very simple reason. Kayleigh might not understand the weight of the Unwritten Rules, but Cailleach does, hence…
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Did you know that when Michael Phelps was in training for the 2008 Olympics, he consumed 12,000 calories per day? Vista tells MM in her interlude that all the civilian arm does is make her hungry, so she's chowing down about 3,000 per day now. A combat arm would require more energy, but she still has plenty of unused eating time to work with that.
Scanning is an obvious action, yes. It's why I strongly recommend that if you want to scan someone, it should go hand-in-hand with the conversation about magic being a real thing.