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Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)

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The most interesting thing about Adepts for me is that pocket watch Epoch used in Behemoth fight:
Silently Watches said:
The grabby cape and her neighbor popped back into real time, and Epoch's eye twitched before he shoved his hand into his pocket to wrap around his watch. The storm of power trapped between bronze and spring screamed at him as it tried to rush into him, furious at being contained. It wanted out.

He was too practiced in working with Maclibuin's spell, however, and he forced the power to trickle out slowly. A stern blink, and the two capes were once more frozen in place. He looked around him again and forced his shoulders to relax. The healers were so busy that no one would notice if these two remained trapped for twenty seconds rather than his usual ten. Nor, he decided after drawing out a little more power, would they notice if the knight's condition improved just a little bit as he was rewound by fifteen seconds this time.
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If Maclibuin is a Brute, it can't be just Trump-made power boost. Which means Adepts managed to push mana into an object and then use it to boost parahuman power.
Will it work for any parahuman? Or only for ones who mages themselves? Or each such a trinket works only for one person it attuned to? How long amulets hold the charge?
Depending on the answers, such things can be tremendously useful for the Protectorate.


Silently Watches said:
The Wolkenritter would like to take you out back for a little chat.
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I'm sure, IAE will be happy to see them. :V
"Belkan savages! Damned servants of Accursed Book! Die, die, die!!!"


As I don't care about Dragon, I propose alternative plan for Tim:
- Finish Dragon scout drone conversion, it will be useful to that tactical AI Tim built.
- Built Device programming station in case we decide to start produce devices.
- Start the third power armor, flying, armored, with in-built taser. (other variants: medigel dispenser, command center upgrade)
 
LancerisDead said:
Hmmmmm.

That makes sense. Maybe the Ice affinity came from another of the Templates, but I dunno.

Still, this confirms that IAE has an inherent ability to use mana, almost like if it had a Linker Core.

Almost like an Unison De-!*gets smacked*

But really, I'm still betting on Cassiel being a UD acting as IAE's core. Maybe drop a hint, please? I don't know if I can wait the full two weeks until I try to coerce the thread into spending time with Perfect Storm.
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Okay, I'll give you a hint.

Purple mana does not guarantee an ice MCA, none of the templates have an ice MCA, the redacted comment was not about IAE.

How's that? :rolleyes: :)
 
Oruzhiye said:
So this gave me a funny thought.
If someone with a template were to get a blood test, would they match up as Taylor's sibling or child?
Not that should actually matter all that much, but it's still amusing to think about.
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Not exactly. Magic genes are mitochondrial, which is why it's entirely a maternal inheritance, so if two people with the same template or even the same Rare Skill were tested, all that could be said is that they both are the end of an all-female descent from the same ancestor some time in the past.
 
Silently Watches said:
If you want to come up with votes that rely on knowledge of Nanoha mechanics, ignorance is not an excuse. Familiarize yourself with the crossover before you try to make any more suggestions like this.
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Yeah, I freely admit I know literally nothing outside of this crossover about the magey things, so I'm just gonna vote towards what gets Dragon a custom alien tech bod. Cause she deserves nice things.

I mean, I should read up on the magic side of this crossover, but it's easier to just watch Watches correct people who spoke out of turn, and then say things.

ANYWHO, I feel kinda bad that we basically gutted out the Adepts, but I mean, they wanted to know so damn bad. Not really our problem some didn't like what they heard.

Good update Watches, but don't burn yourself out correcting people. I mean, I'm not saying you will, but I've seen some good fucking writers start to resent this site from interacting with the more, impulsive, commentators on their threads. So, you know, don't let explaining stuff and clarifying get you down! I trust you to lead this quest true!
 
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So uh, I think the Unison Device conversion for Dragon isn't just a build slot action and done. We'd need to finish analyzing her(we lack the last Tinkertech skill for full comprehension of how she works) talk to her about what she wants for the unison device form(rather than you know, making any old body and saying "here, give up your omnipresence and become a Real Girl").

So currently I'm thinking a Tim Build Slot would be:
[] Plan More Drones
-[] Continue analyzing and converting Dragon's sensory drone until completion
--[] Spend leftover actions building additional sensory drones, and hook them up to the command center.
 
veekie said:
So uh, I think the Unison Device conversion for Dragon isn't just a build slot action and done. We'd need to finish analyzing her(we lack the last Tinkertech skill for full comprehension of how she works) talk to her about what she wants for the unison device form(rather than you know, making any old body and saying "here, give up your omnipresence and become a Real Girl").
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The thing about making a Unison Device for her now is that it would technically be incomplete until she and Tim analyzed her code and Ascalon and everything else in the Dragonslayers' base. They would need some off-screen time to figure out her new appearance and the other aesthetic bits, though the hardware itself could be completed ahead of time.

If the Unison Dragon plan wins, what would happen in actuality is that this week would essentially be a 3-3.5 session week and that extra half to full session would be tacked on to whatever build week includes the actual transfer of consciousness.

Your plan also definitely works.
 
You know, I should've probably asked this before jumping on the give Dragon nice things train, but the fuck is a Unison Device? First post made it sound like Device that could cast spells on its own. Is there more to it, or did I misconstrue that summary?
 
Demetric said:
You know, I should've probably asked this before jumping on the give Dragon nice things train, but the fuck is a Unison Device? First post made it sound like Device that could cast spells on its own. Is there more to it, or did I misconstrue that summary?
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Alright, lemme sum it up real short. A Unison Device is a highly advanced AI with full and complete sapience that unlike all other Devices is truly independent of a user. It has its own generator and even its own repertoire of spells or abilities that it can share with any mage it temporarily merges with. While they can be independent, the two UDs shown in Nanoha prefer to work with a mage or a group of mages rather than operate alone, and in fact the purpose behind their original creation was to work in as part of a merged pair, contributing greater power and abilities to their partners/masters/Lords and even puppetting the body should the mage be incapacitated.

Considering Dragon's restrictions, it'd probably be a "nice thing" even with the newfound urge to stick around with a mage of some kind or another.
 
Solusandra said:
since we just got 4 recruits and 13th hours definitely a hero so 1 almost certain, we probably want him to build devices.
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Question is what kind. I'd suggest one of each except Unison. So one storage, boost, armed, and intelligent.
Then we explain the pros and cons of using devices vs going without.
I'm willing to bet that since most are parahumans, they will elect for going without a device as while it means significantly weaker magic, it also means they keep their current abilities. Especially since they already have been using magic, this just means they get to learn some more.
So an overall positive.

P.S. Has anybody given any thought to scanning Kayleigh? That could offer some interesting possibilities. Also if 13thHour does rejoin the Protectorate, maybe we can offer to scan PRT agents (not capes) at her branch to offer to empower them to make sure we have some magic-using authorities available?
I wonder how the PRT would react to that, especially if we find a few B or A ranked mages? I know it would give us a trump rating, but it should also be interesting if they do brain scans on those agents and find they are NOT parahumans.
 
Silently Watches said:
Alright, lemme sum it up real short.
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Hm... in addition to a slightly expanded FAQ, maybe a 'Nanoha 101' series of posts are necessary, explaining the basic concepts and details of the show.

But then again, if folks who don't know can't put in the time and effort to do basic wiki searching, I'm not sure that would be any more 'convenient'.
 
Always Late said:
Hm... in addition to a slightly expanded FAQ, maybe a 'Nanoha 101' series of posts are necessary, explaining the basic concepts and details of the show.

But then again, if folks who don't know can't put in the time and effort to do basic wiki searching, I'm not sure that would be any more 'convenient'.
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Considering how often questions could be answered by people just checking the faq on the first post...you arent exactly wrong there
 
SlickRCBD said:
Also if 13thHour does rejoin the Protectorate, maybe we can offer to scan PRT agents (not capes) at her branch to offer to empower them to make sure we have some magic-using authorities available?
I wonder how the PRT would react to that, especially if we find a few B or A ranked mages? I know it would give us a trump rating, but it should also be interesting if they do brain scans on those agents and find they are NOT parahumans.
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I would save that until we've gotten an agreement with the Triumvirate together. Once we've more or less been taken into their inner circle, we should have the authority, and by that time the infrastructure, to take advantage of whatever mages we do find to give them all Devices.
 
veekie said:
So uh, I think the Unison Device conversion for Dragon isn't just a build slot action and done. We'd need to finish analyzing her(we lack the last Tinkertech skill for full comprehension of how she works) talk to her about what she wants for the unison device form(rather than you know, making any old body and saying "here, give up your omnipresence and become a Real Girl").

So currently I'm thinking a Tim Build Slot would be:
[] Plan More Drones
-[] Continue analyzing and converting Dragon's sensory drone until completion
--[] Spend leftover actions building additional sensory drones, and hook them up to the command center.
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Right. Reposting this plan to have options in one place:

[] Plan Dragon Conversion Preparation
-[] Build Device Programming Station (1 slot)
-[] Build a Unison Device body for Dragon to transfer to (3 slots)

I think (but not sure) that we were told that mobile center we have is actually an incomplete thing that requires something akin to a Device to fully complete.

So, here's the other option besides my first one:

[] Plan Variety
-[] Build Device Programming Station (1 slot)
-[] Build third DFNS-A power armor (2 slots)
-[] Finish the Mobile Command Center by improving its coordination AI (1 slot)
 
landcollector said:
If I was understanding Silently's posts correctly, shouldn't you involve Dragon in the proposed Unison Device building?
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Do read the thread more attentively.

1) We need to build a Device Programming Station whatever happens, and it's technically a standalone.
2) We can create an incomplete Unison Device for Dragon, and it'll count as a 3-slot build
-2a) Meanwhile, it will actually be like 2-2.5 slots, and the finishing touches will be held in reserve for when we finish the job
-2b) To complete it, we need to have Tim analyze the tech Dragonslayers left behind
-2c) After which, we also need to make a Dragon Transfer Module, a 1-slot build
3) After we have Device Programming Station, Unison Body, and Dragon Transfer Module, the transfer will take place and Dragon will become a Unison Device.

As such the total number of slots necessary is 5, but we can do preliminary work on the body even if we cannot complete the job yet.
 
Faraway-R said:
Do read the thread more attentively.
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*shrugs*
I will admit I could pay more attention to the Tim side of things, but I was just asking for clarification (which you provided, thanks). I am still skeptical that spending time to start building something that will undoubtedly have to be rebuilt once Dragon gives her thoughts/ideas is for the best though.
 
If he did have a linker core, I don't think he would go for either a Device or template. He's put too much time into his own tech. Learning a spell or two on his own? Maybe.
 
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