Amity is a word for getting along.
He's probably depressed enough by his life that any result of that is acceptable in his eyes.
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I'd be like if we called the Olympics the "Friendship Games," yes.
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I said it in the threadmarked post and I'll say it again: Oh god Qrow.
...I will probably have Words about this later in my buffer.
And then if the 1972 edition resulted in Germany becoming a radioactive crater.
V04C09 Two Steps Forward, Two Steps Back
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V04C09 Two Steps Forward, Two Steps Back
The lyric "happy ending" plays over Qrow's shot in the titles, which I am choosing to interpret as an ironic reference to his Semblance. Also, Nightmare Yang is slightly transparent, which I didn't notice previously.
And here it is! Zwei is enthralled.
At a break, Yang casually drops that they've been doing it for weeks, which about matches the timeframe implied by Ruby not understanding distance. Tai still isn't quite ready to certify her, insisting her balance is still off, which leads to Yang reflecting on how much dead weight her prosthetic isn't. (Finest Atlas technology - it's great, as long as it isn't wirelessly controlled.)
Tai ambushes her while she's busy appreciating it. "I wasn't talking about your actual balance," he says, knocking her over, "although that could use some work too." His point, which he gets to as he towels off and Yang peels herself off the dirt, is that Yang's tournament record (such as it was) was characterised by utter predictability. Nice to know I'm not the only one who thought she had one trick.
Tai goes further by describing Yang as overly reliant on her Semblance - which he then describes as "basically a temper tantrum". Harsh, but true as far as I can tell - she's always gotten angry as it charges up. He continues the psychic surgery by asking what happens if she charges with it and misses; knowingly or not, he's describing the 'fight' with Adam, which can easily be characterised as a catastrophic miss. Okay, definitely knowingly. 'Work smarter, not harder' is great advice in general, and especially to Yang regarding her Semblance, because the reality of the thing is that first she has to take damage. (Also, man, we've seen what happens if someone damages her hair, now just imagine her first haircut.)
"You definitely have your mum's stubbornness," says Tai. Which one? Yang assumes Raven, correctly; wondering why the topic of conversation is now open, she's informed that she's an adult now, remember? Which sounds familiar from sometime this Volume (checks Chapter 4).
"Well, sorry I remind you of her." Oh no Yang. "Don't be," says Tai, and starts a speech on how Yang is basically Raven without the worst bits - the bits that destroyed Team STRQ - which is still not to say that Yang doesn't have some of the bad bits, like the relentlessly head-on approach to problem-solving.
Tai suggests one more spar. Yang has clearly learned something in this scene (particularly last paragraph), for she gets him into similar circumstances to last spar and then seizes the advantage by tripping him up. Gotcha!
Weiss starts a big ol' summon. Some way in, Whitley drops by to salt her emotional wounds. This kid. I'm with Weiss on this one: Leave. Cease your elitist, infantile prattling about how personal skill is beneath you.
Whitley, on the way out, puts a few more grains on by asking her what she's planning to do. Weiss slams the door in his face and returns to summoning practice. Go Weiss!
This next attempt starts with a glyph of such size and angular momentum that it disturbs the contents of the room, then shatters the window before she dispels it. Klein hurtles in to check if she's all right. (Conspicuous absence of Whitley, who was probably closer and doubtless noticed.) She is - she's successfully summoned Trailer Knight.
Weiss asks Klein for a favour while looking out the window.
Feels increasingly likely.
Blake leaps from tree to tree in pursuit of the masked eavesdropper. Sun does the same with considerably less grace. As he recovers from one failed attempt to snatch the spy, he asks Blake to "Wait up!"; Blake has to admonish him on the way by that they can't let the spy escape with what they learned.
A mildly ominous chorus enters the score as the chase moves from trees to rooftops.
A few rooftops (and comparative shots of spy and Blake making the same steps a couple of seconds apart) later, the spy turns to fight: they retract most of their spy catsuit (??), draw what looks like a whip with a Dust cylinder, and use that to damage some steam pipes. I thought they'd use it as visual cover to escape, but Blake shadow-clones through before they can, and now they're just not opposing Blake.
I wondered what happened to Sun, but he went low and used this extra time to get onto the rooftop just behind the spy, cutting off that direction of escape - unless, of course, they poke the whip at him, infused with presumably Lightning Dust. ("I'm not above hitting a girl, you kn-" Yeah, but will they animate it?) But Sun evades, and now Blake has an opening to charge at the spy and knock a Scroll out of their hand.
Sun tells Blake that it's almost certainly worth grabbing the Scroll (near the edge of the roof), then tackles the spy to give Blake an opening to do so. Blake doesn't - she gets distracted watching the tackle, and only when the spy gets loose and heads for the Scroll does Blake follow suit. Sun helps Blake win the footrace by using his Semblance (remember it?) to tackle the spy again, and Blake gets distracted watching again. Blake, get your head in the game!
Sun's Aura breaks and his clones expire. Blake still hasn't reached the Scroll by the time the spy gets up again and Sun shouts for Blake to watch out.
Somewhere in there, the spy's mask was damaged - it's rigid, and now it's missing the chunk over the left eye and the rest of it is cracked all the way through. As they prepare to attack Blake (who is now facing them due to Sun's warning), it gives up, crumbling off their face entirely. And so we finally meet Ilia.
Sun is taken aback by the revelation that Blake knows Ilia, and says most of something really stupid before getting lightning-whipped. Ilia, who I'm guessing is a chameleon faunus or something by
Blake remembers Sun just got zapped, without Aura, and goes to panic stations. I'd be dismissive, but I do remember last Volume's death count. How about we not have another one? Fortunately, he's still alive - for now...
Similar scenes in the wilds of Anima, where it is Ruby and Jaune's turn to carry Qrow's stretcher as he struggles with envenoming.
Turns out when they dropped the map back at Oniyuri, they never got to pick it up again. Protip: Don't drop the map. Now they're not entirely sure where they're going, or - more importantly - how long until they get there.
Cue a signpost at a fork in the road. It at least indicates the former: Higanbana was behind them, Kuchinashi and Mistral to the right path, Kuroyuri to the left path. It gives no distances, but given how far back we know Higanbana was, it's not a good sign.
The right path appears to head into the mountains, and Team RNJR (particularly Jaune) are pessimistic about Qrow's survival in thinner air. Ruby suggests taking the left path. I now notice that Kuroyuri is crossed out, which makes me pessimistic about its continued existence. Yep, Ren says it was "destroyed years ago".
An argument brews. Ruby and Jaune support travelling via the ruins of Kuroyuri - it takes them around the mountains, they might be able to scavenge something useful... Ren is adamant that they shouldn't - detouring will take longer than Qrow has, and the destruction was total.
Nora proposes splitting the party: Ruby and Jaune can take Qrow through Kuroyuri while she and Ren go through the mountains. "Don't split the party" is classic advice for a reason, and moreso here: it already takes two to carry the stretcher, and Qrow's on the stretcher so he can't keep Grimm off them. Jaune is equally skeptical. Nora is uncharacteristically serious, proposing that they can get to Mistral faster and bring back help (the only advantage I thought of), and even if that doesn't work out, the mountains will give them a vantage point from which to improvise a map. Ren has just shut down by this point, which is equally uncharacteristic of him.
Then they all remember Qrow as he coughs some more. There's nothing for it: They split the party. Jaune reminds Ren and Nora to "take care of each other". "We always have," responds Nora, still uncharacteristically serious.
Ruby assures Jaune that Nora and Ren will be fine; Jaune, having just watched more of his present walk away for possibly the last time, isn't having it. As they walk, some of their footprints are revealed to be inside a copy of the same symbol(?) that appeared at the ruins of Shion. The crescendo of the background music assures us it's a really bad thing.
Next time: Ghosts of tragedies past (meaning, more flashbacks!).
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dragonx99
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More info from the out of universe sources, but the writers admit that nothing that is happening at the same time on screen is actually happening at the same time. Though we can't be sure when it is happening in relationship to one another, cause from what I remember the writers also said they didn't want to make a timeline of events for themselves as they felt that would make things confusing.
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Tai's advice falls flat when you remember he's the one that trained her, when he wasn't lying around feeling sorry for himself. If she's so flawed in her fighting style (A belief I disagree with for various reasons, from the fact Neos fight was a LOT closer than she made it look, to the fact that the fights in V3 were mostly spectacle fights, not serious battles), that's HIS fault for training her wrong, then letting her go off to Beacon without correcting that flaw. But neglecting his responibilities is a bad habit of Tais.
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Also, stop projecting your issues with her mother on her Tai, Jesus. The girl already has trauma from having to become a parental figure to Ruby because you were too busy wallowing in grief, the last thing she needs is 'you're just like the bandit queen that abandoned you at birth'.
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A major part of Yangs takedown of Adam involved her using her semblance exactly as he liked to criticize her here.
Also, stop projecting your issues with her mother on her Tai, Jesus. The girl already has trauma from having to become a parental figure to Ruby because you were too busy wallowing in grief, the last thing she needs is 'you're just like the bandit queen that abandoned you at birth'.
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dragonx99
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There's also the aspect where people start talking about how one's semblance reflects their soul. I plan on bringing this up when michael gets there, but if we take that at face value then Taii basically just said that Yang's fundamental nature can be summarized as a child throwing a tantrum.
When, you know, she was supposed to have been parentified because of him neither taking care of his children nor arranging for an actual adult to help do so.
When, you know, she was supposed to have been parentified because of him neither taking care of his children nor arranging for an actual adult to help do so.
That came up either in Chibi, which is good to cool off from the emotional tension with, or a livestream with the crew.
Jacques probably has enough cameras outside to make that hard to get away with directly.
It's her hair, not a tail. The skin is her faunus trait.
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No, they stopped turning their skin black for stealth because it wasn't helping and they couldn't keep focusing on it during the chase. Though I can see how that wouldn't be your first guess.
Also, you guessed Chameleon Faunus correctly. Not only that but her mask is a reference to the Jackson's Chameleon, which has horns, and her extending weapon is a reference to the way they attack prey by shooting out their tongues (much like frogs).
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There are two kinds of people: those who make timelines to avoid confusing themselves...
Dammit, fooled again.
Ilia's colour-changing is a bit interesting because it involves very clearly-defined colour boundaries traversing her body, rather than everything fading at once as would probably make more sense.
Well, now I've learned things and can go to bed.
V04C10 Kuroyuri
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V04C10 Kuroyuri
{{You have no idea how long I thought it was spelled "Kuroyiri", with an extra I instead of the last U.}}
Subtitling has taken the titles off this Chapter, leaving a message of "[RWBY Volume 4 Intro - Let's Just Live]" instead of trying to subtitle the lyrics like every other time. Also the transition away from Weiss' scene is a shattering, foreshadowing her taking out the window.
But first, the farm. Possibly for the last time, because Oscar has packed a bag and is wandering off. Now he's in the forest, and Ozpin is apologising to him. Oscar reflects that everything crazy he's experienced and is now doing no longer feels crazy - is this the innate human capacity to get bored of stuff, or is it mental bleedthrough from Ozpin? Who knows.
Right on cue, a thunderstorm. I know it's a trope to have stormy weather in this kind of situation, but don't ask me its name. Oscar arrives at the train station, consults the incongruous-looking ATM, and finds he can't withdraw enough money for a train ticket.
Walking onto the platform from the other end is none other than Hazel. Remember him? "Here," says Hazel, percussively maintains the machine so hard it spits out a train ticket, and walks off with a parting line that manages to be both inspirational and vaguely menacing. Ozpin admits Hazel is «someone from my past [...] who should not be taken lightly». Right then.
If you thought the background music was a bit concerning just there, it's got nothing on now, gazing upon the ruins of Kuroyuri. Jaune, carrying the back of Qrow's stretcher, is 100% unsettled; Ruby, carrying the front, urges him on. As they walk on, Ruby asks Jaune why Ren was so reluctant to come this way (he really was...). "I think I have a pretty good idea," says Jaune. Camera pedestals down off the main street to a desiccated water lily...
...and fades to a water lily, possibly the same one, in Kuroyuri's heyday. A small Ren admires it from the nearby edge of the water. His mother (I presume) advises him against trying to replant it at home. She instead encourages him to buy something nice for his father when he returns soon.
Small Ren's budget does not extend to much worth buying.
Eventually he sees some worthwhile sweets, but before he can go and buy them there is a commotion nearby: three other children are mocking and abusing Small Nora. I will not stand for this and I hope Ren doesn't either.As the cruelty continues, Ren is noticed on approach, and panics and flees - straight into his father, who is not standing for any of this. Nora flees the other way, then her tormentors flee perpendicular. Ren is admonished for doing nothing - often the worst action to take - and told to go home while his father speaks with the mayor.
Fade back to Ruby and Jaune in the present, who have searched the ruins for anything resembling medical supplies and come up empty-handed. There is "[Ominous roaring in the distance]", which I couldn't hear, but they both did judging by how fast they went for their weapons. Ruby judges it to be far off, but Jaune worries about Present Nora and Ren, as he always does.
It is now time for Ruby's doubts to overflow: It's her fault (it's not), she dragged Team JN_R into this (they wanted to come), they didn't know about Tyrian (nobody did)... Jaune tries a motivational speech: Yes, they lost Pyrrha. But Ruby lost Pyrrha as well, and Team WBY is recalled or fled or incapacitated by depression; but here's Ruby anyway, still trying to make a difference.
Way better motivational speech than during the Jaunedice arc. I wonder what Qrow thought of it, if he was lucid enough to hear it (sadly, he probably wasn't).
Fade from the long-dead tree they stand in front of, to a Ren family portrait in front of that same tree back when it was alive. Ren is asleep, but is awoken by something roaring (checks different roar, I think). His mother bursts in and bundles him out. Downstairs they meet his father, who vetoes Plan Safehouse on the grounds that he's seen what's coming: they need a Hunter, and those two in particular need to flee.
Whatever it is roars again fit to burst their ears. Ren's mother reassures him, immediately before she's gathered up along with a chunk of the house to an uncertain fate. Cut through black. Visuals resume as Ren's father is carrying him away at a run. He's clearly wounded, and doesn't have the breath to spare to answer questions. This does not help Ren, who is probably now radiating negativity.
The surviving Rens are among many fleeing in terror along the main street as the other end emits a smoke column. An earth tremor throws the elder Ren to the ground. He clearly doesn't like his chances of getting up again, as he insists the younger Ren run like hell. Protests to the contrary are interrupted by clear visibility of a new and exotic variety of Grimm. Small Ren is understandably highly distraught, which is not gonna help with anything. Big Ren passes him a dagger and throws him loose.
Given we know that Present Ren is orphaned, I'm not at all liking where this is going. Neither is Small Ren. But the exotic Grimm is here, now, and Big Ren has no option but to fight it.
Small Ren flees in terror, eventually finding what could charitably be called a hiding place. Up there, at least four Nevermores. Over there, Small Nora, also hiding in terror. Over there, the exotic Grimm. Ren transitions from terror to total emotional breakdown. Then his Aura kicks in somehow - he turns greyscale briefly, and trades total emotional breakdown for eerie calm. Certified trigger event.
Ren sprints over to Nora's hiding place. As a Nevermore arrives atop that very building, he gives her the Semblance greyscale treatment also. The Nevermore (also the recipient of higher-quality animation this Volume) looks around in confusion, sees no-one, can't sense anything even after another terror-inducing roar, and so leaves.
The exotic Grimm also walks past without noticing them. Its mismatched feet and distinctive stepping pattern with them appear to create the symbol seen at Shion and then at the fork in the road, which means it must be a distinctive footprint rather than a symbol - however, the 'symbol' was way bigger. Bad implications for Shion, worse for Ruby and Jaune. (Speaking of the fork in the road, the shot that showed us that footprint also showed us Jaune stepping sort-of on top of Ruby's footprint, which was foreshadowing this beastie's stepping pattern.)
Seeing a discarded toy weapon from earlier - a hammer - Ren salvages it and gives it to Nora. I guess that's how that started. "We'll keep each other safe," he says. This is a pretty good plan to shore up her emotional state for when the emotional suppression wears off. They trade names.
Years later, a considerably older Nora and Ren lament that they'll now have to traverse a cave in the mountains, in between checking on each other's emotional states. Or maybe they were lamenting the seeming end of the path, because it seems like Nora's only just noticed the cave. A banner blows out of it and hits Ren in the face; once he peels it off for a proper look, he recognises the symbol on it as that of Shion, weeks of travel behind them, and goes charging into the cave to confirm or deny his suspicions. Nora of course follows. The music crescendos again, oh h*ck oh no.
This cave sure looks like a trophy room as interpreted by an intelligent Grimm. It's littered with the weapons of those who presumably tried and failed to kill it, including an arrow that greatly resembles those used by Ren's father; Ren himself treats it in a way that supports that theory. There is also the same distinctive footprint.
Nora and Ren leave the cave. On the mountain step below, the trees are shaking. Ren's emotional equilibrium is gone. There's an excellent view of the ruins of Kuroyuri from here. Cut to black, and another one of those ear-bursting roars. I say again, oh h*ck oh no.
Next time: Disappointments flying in close formation, Anima edition.
dragonx99
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So for a fun game; How many times did Ruby actually interact with Pyrrha before the latter's death?
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I should probably point out that "kuroyuri" is just "black lily" in Japanese.
Since it's implied you've seen at least part of the next episode, I'll mention the basis of this Grimm, but I'll put it behind a spoiler:
This monster is based on the Nuckelavee, though actually somewhat less disturbing than the mythological beast.
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This is one of the problems with the breakneck timeskipping in V1: Ruby and Pyrrha were implied to get on, as shown by Pyrrha's death triggering Ruby's Eye Beams of Doom, but they didn't actually interact on-screen much.
Of course, if we're playing counterfactuals, more Beacon content would probably have meant less story progression by the time the series creator suddenly died, so more gaps for the rest of the writing team to try and fill.
You're telling me this is the less-disturbing version? Well, there's a term I'm never searching.
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No image, but click the spoiler if you want to know why it is more disturbing
The mythological version keeps the same basic appearance, but has no skin so every one of its muscles are on full display.
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Mainly, but also the head isn't a horned skull, just a flayed giant, it's often depicted with only two large glowing eyes-- one on each head, and it breathes out sickness. And, of course, it comes in normal flesh colors not just black red and white like a Grimm-- although I suppose it is mostly reddish.
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V04C11 Taking Control
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V04C11 Taking Control
Subtitles are still leaving the intro song alone. Also, I cannot believe I never before noticed the point on the end of the haft of Crescent Rose. (All the better to stab you with, big bad wolf...?)
Cinder has, unfortunately for us, recovered sufficiently to begin combat practice again. She dispatches a bunch of Beowolves easily enough, but is left somewhat winded. Suddenly, Beringel! She kills it before it can hit her, but is now exhausted. Salem halts practice to berate her about how she's (Cinder's) "holding back" (I reckon Salem's projecting her own adequacy here), but is interrupted by the return of Tyrian.
Cinder's left eye is the wounded one. Weiss' trailer scar is over her left eye, Amber got half her soul stolen through her left eye, and when we saw Ren's father last Chapter he had a visible wound near/around his left eye. Are they flipping a weighted coin or what? Also, apropos of Amber getting half her soul stolen, some music:
Why didn't I post that in V03C07? Because I only remembered it existed last week, that's why.
Anyway, Tyrian's certainty that he'll be forgiven evaporates in the face of the would-be forgiver. Salem is not amused by his failure, and not mollified by the news of Qrow's envenoming. She does far worse than torture him:
Imagine God personally descending from His Heaven to tell you, in particular, that you disappoint Him. Or don't, because we can see how Tyrian is reacting to it. A Beowolf tries to get in on his pity party, and has a long time to painfully regret it. Even Cinder is creeped the h*ck out as Tyrian turns back to his usual psychosis halfway through.
Yang has applied the finishing touch to her prosthetic: Yellow paint. Because it wouldn't be Yang if it weren't yellow, would it. Then she goes into the shed and retrieves her motorbike from under its protective tarp.
Tai catches her in the shed, but declines to stop her: "I just wanted a better goodbye than a letter." Oof ouch my heart, this dude was this close to having both daughters (two-thirds of his remaining family, and Qrow's left too) flee the house with naught but a goodbye note, after they returned from nearly getting killed at the fall of Beacon. But also, asks Tai, where's she going, given that Ruby and Qrow were last known to be heading for Mistral, and Raven's hanging around there too. Yang has to think about that one.
Weiss leaves her room, weapon in one hand and suitcase in the other. One end of the corridor is clear. She turns around and nearly trips over Klein, who I'm guessing is an accomplice in her impending escape.
There ensues another nice long walk through the Schnee live-in trophy cabinet, but at night this time. The carpet's pretty handy at not making noise when they step on it. Halfway along a corridor, Klein receives a Scroll call from Whitley and has to detour to attend to him, directing Weiss to wait in "the first-floor library" (I'm completely unsurprised that there are multiple libraries).
On the way past Jacques' study, she can clearly hear him and Ironwood in a shouting match. In "more pressing" news than Jacques' resentment over the military (and by extension Ironwood) having "stole[n]" Winter, Winter reports that trouble is brewing in Mistral. Ironwood's response to this is to completely close the borders of Atlas. Because sticking your head in the sand is always a great plan, eh? (But what else is he gonna do? Send an expeditionary force? That worked so well in Vale, didn't it...)
Jacques accuses Ironwood of being an untrusting control freak who controls what the Atlas Council will allow through the border closure, and Ironwood denies none of it, merely wondering why Jacques is antagonising him if that's the case before heading for the door.
Weiss, still eavesdropping, has no time to leave the area before Ironwood betrays her presence to Jacques, so she does the next best thing: she Glyphs the door shut (unnoticeably from inside) to buy time while she runs for it. This does not help matters inside the study at all.
In the library, Klein eventually shows up again, and the two of them take a moment to appreciate how little family Weiss will still have: basically just Winter. And Klein, Weiss adds. The goodbyes have to be shortened due to Jacques wanting to know where Klein is and what happened to the door. He (Jacques) sounds Real Mad, as expected from Ironwood being unable to leave the room with him in it.
Back in the study at the Belladonna house, Sun wakes up, and has no time to determine his situation beyond 'ow, recovering from shoulder wound' before Blake starts pouring angst all over the proceedings.
With Sun and then Ilia having interrupted father-daughter bonding time, Blake's neuroses have all wound up again, to the point where she says of Team RWY "I hope they hate me for leaving." Brother gods Blake. This is, yikes, if I heard all of this from a real person I'd want them on suicide watch.
Whether Blake is suicidal now or just peak antisocial (presenting a high risk of suicidal later), it's up to Sun to talk her down. Let's see how he goes.
He goes well, reminding Blake that the rest of them (particularly Yang, by name) also have agency and would rather she not make their choices for them.
And he'd know, having been freshly fried by one of them. He then follows up with a bit of a joke about how his next fight with Ilia will be for revenge rather than Blake; either this, or him forgetting he was wounded and paying for it when he moves his shoulder wrong, gets her to laugh a bit, which is a start - subtitles. Subtitles what are you doing. (Subtitles: " :3 ".)
"My hero," says Blake, in a clear callback to Chapter, like, 3 when Sun first kinda wanted her to.
And now it is Kali's turn to fall into the room via the door. 100% she was eavesdropping. Kali, you are fooling nobody.
Ghira, on the other hand, had an actual reason to lurk awkwardly behind her. Ilia's Scroll has provided a goldmine of signals intelligence on the White Fang: Long story short, they're planning the Fall of Haven, under the 'guidance' of Adam "Cancer" Taurus. "Not if we destroy the White Fang [first]," says Sun. Blake has a better idea: they'll take back the White Fang.
(I'm told that what looked like Ilia's tail was actually her hair. This makes her a mirror of Tyrian, whose hairstyle resembled a tail as a misdirection from his actual tail.)
Most of the way from there to Haven, Nora and Ren sprint through the ruins of Kuroyuri, trying to reach Ruby and Jaune before the entirely-too-smart Grimm that already depopulated the town does. They succeed, by approximately twenty seconds (I counted). Yep, that's horrifying and I can't blame Ren for shutting down. What a cliffhanger for the last Chapter break.
Next time: Assorted past (as opposed to entirely negative past).
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Given it's very likely Yang had no clue about Raven being in Mistral before this point unless Tai told her off screen, this really comes across as him once again projecting his Raven issues on Yang. And honestly, I'll go so far as to say he was projecting with his 'leave with nothing but a letter' comment as well. She didn't hide getting her arm and weapon ready, she's still wearing her around the house clothes while pulling her bike out of storage. There was no indication Yang was hiding her intentions to go after Ruby.
Well, if one's allies are in danger, and you already have people in the area, the logical thing to do would be to help them...
It is amazing how even now, there are people that insist that nothing Ironwood did here, with a high ranking general abusing his power and outright threatening his civilian ally (before this moment), was in any way wrong, because jacqueass is a bad person. They really did 'hide' this in plain sight.
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What are the odds it was waiting for them all to get together once it noticed them being in different directions?
dragonx99
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To be more fair than Tai probably deserves, Yang was supposed to have a thing about trying to find Raven. They just really didn't give this the air it needed to breathe for us to be on his side here. Like there was her mentioning she tried looking for Raven when Tai first shut down which almost got her and Ruby killed, Raven is supposed to be who she was looking for in her trailer though I don't think there's mention of that in universe, and I think Qrow mentioned something about Raven back in volume 3 that one time?
and at the end of the volume we're supposed to be uncertain whether Yang is going for Ruby or Raven. But I gotta be honest this plot feels so undercooked to me that I didn't even realize we weren't supposed to be certain she was going for her sister. Especially when paired with the credits' song. I honestly thought what ends up happening early volume 5 was meant to be a surprise to everyone.
So it is possible that what is happening is them writing dialogue for the story that is in their head rather than what made it to paper. And in their head Yang has a strong enough fixation on finding her mom that Tai's line of questioning sounds valid. Like how it seems we're supposed to take his commentary on Yang's fighting style as valid despite the obvious issues there.
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The thing about yang's raven issues that's fascinating is that it's a side issue for her, something she'd love to resolve yes, but nowhere near a central pillar of her character, besides the impact of Raven leaving had on the life she had growing up (Summer being her mum in the ways that matter, Ruby existing, Tais shutting down and leaving Yang to be the emotional pillar of the household, etc). But Tai, Qrow and even Raven put more importance into that 'side quest' then she ever did. They think it's the driving force in her life, because they're the ones that spent years refusing to talk to her about it and assume she broods on it as much as them.
As for the bit in the story Yang told Blake, that was a seven or so year old girl desperate to fix her broken dad. Raven, amusingly enough, was just a piece to her real goal of getting his head together. Instead, he assumes it's Yang 'being like Raven' and keeps feeling sorry for himself for a few more years.
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So just to be clear; I agree that with the story as written you are fully in the right. This is ultimately a side quest to Yang, something she does when she has some free time and not something she's going to throw away something important for.
My thing is just that I'm not sure the writers realize that this is the story they have written.
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I'll be honest, until Tai brought it up, I never even thought she'd be going after Raven. She originally put the new arm on after being reminded of Ruby being off travelling, Ruby and co had been shown to be in danger, and Yang has always been protective of her sister. It seemed pretty obvious she was going after Ruby. Raven would be, at most, a bitch she'd end up unexpectedly crossing paths with. I actually wondered if she'd be catching up before the end of the volume, given the whole 'stories clearly taking place at different rates over the sixth months' and travel being easier for her between her bike, riding solo, and the borders being open again.
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