It's not wrong to make Friends in the Dungeon (Danmachi / Sanctioned [Worm])
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- Canada
Que Administrator keep muttering to herself things like "We solved [The Question]..." and 'No one is on Overwatch I can do what I want..."
Leading to Hestia and friends both understandably confused and somewhat scared what she keeps muttering.
First of all The Question was spoken in the Big Words and thus important to their culture, and a title like The Question is probably really important to a kingdom of scholars.
Secondly a prim and proper teenager with very strict parents is now aware that they aren't watching and she can do what she wants, setting off warning bells for those who know about repressed children slipping the leash, taking necessary precautions like hiding the alcohol and buying an extra large swear jar.
Leading to Hestia and friends both understandably confused and somewhat scared what she keeps muttering.
First of all The Question was spoken in the Big Words and thus important to their culture, and a title like The Question is probably really important to a kingdom of scholars.
Secondly a prim and proper teenager with very strict parents is now aware that they aren't watching and she can do what she wants, setting off warning bells for those who know about repressed children slipping the leash, taking necessary precautions like hiding the alcohol and buying an extra large swear jar.
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When they should be hiding that crossbow and restrict her magic! Cause I wouldn't be surprised if QA got a bunch of magic stone, and creates a devise that grows magical crystals at a visible rate, and forced dreamer to eat a bunch of it... to prove to everyone that it's safe to consume
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Also does dreamer look like one of these? Or a younger version with different hair colours?
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- United States
QA gonna be the smuggiest smug that ever smugged, ever.
Sometime, some undefined solar cycles in the future:
"I'm sorry Broadcast, do you mean to say that serving as my metaphorical footrest is beneath you? I can't hear your obnoxiously energy intensive complaints over the sound of my INFINITE ENERGY. Escalation! You are fanning too hard! Get it through your thick skull that doing things harder is stupid, you were given this duty because your methods are outdated!"
Also, looking forward to what this means for Oraria
Sometime, some undefined solar cycles in the future:
"I'm sorry Broadcast, do you mean to say that serving as my metaphorical footrest is beneath you? I can't hear your obnoxiously energy intensive complaints over the sound of my INFINITE ENERGY. Escalation! You are fanning too hard! Get it through your thick skull that doing things harder is stupid, you were given this duty because your methods are outdated!"
Also, looking forward to what this means for Oraria
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- A single human dimension
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Ironically, that very image demonstrates why elder-Dreamer was so reluctant to go with demihuman traits. Still, this is the closest approximation (if with longer hair) of mini-Aiz-mode Dreamer that anyone has posted in the thread so far:
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Roth963
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I wonder how Scion will react if he knew that a newborn found the solution just after Eden died, I can't guess if he will become more depressed or if it will give him a new purpose like QA to keep this knowledge safe.
Great job Taylor!👍 on another note, I am now imaging QA bragging to all her siblings how she was right the entire time!
It might actually attack and maybe kill some shards if it got lucky (very lucky, because shards are basically already established A.Is with a giant supersupersuper computer and a lot of advanced weaponry) but it can't really take on Scion because the period of time it will take to grow to be a threat is too much for serious Scion not to notice.
Great job Taylor!👍 on another note, I am now imaging QA bragging to all her siblings how she was right the entire time!
EDIT: Threat bit may have been fanon. They still locked advanced worlds, though, so... yeah.
According to WoG they do attack Interstellar species, but they make space whale sounds to attract their family before it to gang up on those, although it might be more to have more shards or more range than any threat.
I was under the impression that it is more a threat the the host species than them, A.I is just a type of being and the chances of it growing within the coffin of the cycle to take on all of them without them destroying before than are pretty small (basically zero) but destroying the host species and ruining the cycle is still a threat.
It might actually attack and maybe kill some shards if it got lucky (very lucky, because shards are basically already established A.Is with a giant supersupersuper computer and a lot of advanced weaponry) but it can't really take on Scion because the period of time it will take to grow to be a threat is too much for serious Scion not to notice.
This is true, but we don't know why this cycle is limited, maybe Eden decided through precog that 300 is the optimal time and that more will generate less data than worth it in energy expenditure, as human mindsets will already be a very known factor and much more easily predictable.
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- Neptune
"Administrate smarter, not harder."
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- The Temple of the Winds
i took it the other way around: QA talking to a human about his piercings.
And who just discovered several thousand dollars in the couch cushions
Roth963
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More like discovered money fabricating machine in the couch cushions.
Um, are you still operating under the false information that the Entities are trying to "solve" Entropy?
Because they aren't, they already did that.
The problem that they are trying to solve/avoid is what happened on their homeworld-
Every space and every alternate version of those spaces already occupied by an Entity, and all of them still reproducing and refusing to stop or even think about slowing down.
-but this time extended to literally all of the universe.
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- Out there
Sounds like a Stellaris' endgame crisis..
Umm... Correct me on this, but aren't the purpose of of shards and Entities are to solve overpopulation? I'm not so sure since it has been a long while.
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No they didn't, where the hell did you get that from? If they solved entropy, the cycle has no reason to exist, because they can just precog the whole thing. Who cares about energy costs if you have infinite energy or at least can recycle it absolutely perfectly?
Roth963
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Space is not the problem, they can make more of it (with powers like Vista's) and more is naturally created all the time with the universe expansion, the problem was that they need energy both to live and to make use of their powers, and to get energy they eat basically anything, now at some point they run out of things to eat, at which point they die, that what happened to their planet they fed on all the energy until it started to dwindle, so they used everything that was left to leave.
The entities couldn't produce energy from nothing.
Even if they stopped replicating they will still run out of things to eat.
Pre-cog isn't perfect, and can't predict something if the Shards lack the necessary information to reach a proper conclusion.
There are limits to that.
Mostly because it involves drawing in space from alternate(locked) worlds and using that.
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Roth963
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They can precog a cycle, it is just less energy effective than doing it.
Where did you bring this knowledge from, are you an entity.
And doesn't change the fact that space is naturally created all the time.
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Yes, and?
Why do you think that is something the Entitites "lack the necessary information" for?
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Also, I really don't care to continue this when it will obviously just spiral out into a meaningless argument, take it up with Wildbow if you don't like/believe WoG.
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Case in point.
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It is explicit canon that the only reason they don't precog the cycle to get the data from it is because doing the cycle is more energy-efficient. Moreover, wildbow has talked about entropy being the problem multiple times, and additionally if they had an infinite energy source Scion wouldn't have been rationing his power because there would have been no need. Scion canonically rationed his power, so no infinite energy there.
There is literally nothing in worm canon or WoG saying the entities have solved entropy, and a lot of things saying they haven't. The persistent (and stupid) fanon that the entities don't need to solve/have already solved entropy needs to die in a goddamned fire. Solving entropy solves all of their current problems forever.
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- A single human dimension
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- She/Her
This story operates under the assumption that the Entities did not have access to effectively infinite energy and that it was their goal - they have, after all, demonstrated that they can accomplish all manner of overpowered bullshit at the cost of energy. Whether this is canon or not is not something I want to argue about.
Or, put another way: Don't continue the restarted entropy argument, please.
Or, put another way: Don't continue the restarted entropy argument, please.
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If they solved entropy, how is this an issue in an expanding universe? Then again, I never really cared about the details of this setting. At a certain point you have to accept "the Cosmic Unicorn did it" or you'll be going around in circles.
Edit: Man do I type slow or something. This thing went to argument to derail to request to dropping before I got my post up. :/
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- A single human dimension
- Pronouns
- She/Her
On the one hand, I don't like the argument continuation and will charitably assume the page wasn't refreshed. On the other, I adore "the Cosmic Unicorn did it" as an explanation. You may live.
I love the Cosmic Unicorn. It shall now be canon. Even more so if we can shoehorn a certain planet full of horses into the theory.
Somehow the fate of the multiverse rests on Dreamer and her ability to help QA learn to enjoy living life as a mortal human. Mostly because QA is basically a freed person with no idea on what to do with said freedom.
And the last thing anyone wants for QA to go crazy with having no Shard-worthy purpose as well as being too bored from being a human.
And the last thing anyone wants for QA to go crazy with having no Shard-worthy purpose as well as being too bored from being a human.
Roth963
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Now this is a dumb question, make Friends of course.
Didn't she decide that data is still important to keep her colony safe from competing colonies, some entities are very friendly with other entities, and some will eat them if they got the chance.
Scion might decide the same purpose if he discovered it and it was brought the right way to him, Taylor might not need to find a way to kill him if she used enough energy on precog and emotional models to try and get him to join her side, humans already proven their worth when she solved the problem, so not killing them off shouldn't be impossible to be brought up, and anyway, there is no longer actual reason to kill them, and shards do get attached, so they will want to keep their hosts when they can now.
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