[X]Our transcendence awaits

My primary consideration for this vote is not spending any Gnosis. We're so close to a big purchase I can almost taste it, just gotta keep saving!

My second consideration for this vote is picking up Impossible Perfection. Seriously, it looks to be a super good pick. For one, it runs off our Astronomy, which we've been putting the most focus on. Second, it seems to be a reference to a fairly powerful option in a CYOA that Birdsie posted in one of Rihaku's threads, and if Impossible Perfection gives us something even slightly similar then it's bound to be bullshit. Third, whatever it was apparently got Salazar Slytherin himself 'mildly obsessed' with it. It's got to be pretty good to inspire that much fervor from him.

A quote from the CYOA, for reference:

[ ] The Diamond Perfection (4 orbs) - The Knower of Names is a whimsical demon. He might not be the Six-Hearted Revolver, or the Despiser, or the First and Foremost, but the Knower of Names is whimsical nonetheless, because he understands one basic fact: a demon isn't perfect, but rather, a demon is defined by his flaws.

You become the opposite of a demon. The power of Diamond Perfection suffuses you and inexorably cycles your spirit to the same frequency as the Source of Creation. The most blatant and noticeable effect is that you can achieve what the Diamondfly couldn't: a glimpse of perfection. Actions undertaken by the user are within one percentile error margin of being 'perfect,' no matter how difficult they are: this is an ability that isn't, but borders, nigh-omnicompetence.

When the user of the Diamond Perfection sets his mind on a certain goal, the universe bends over backwards to deliver them to that goal: this is equal parts fate imposition and retroactive alteration.

Both of these effects are cumulative and incredibly useful when it comes to acquiring power and learning more. It should be theoretically possible for the user of Diamond Perfection to eventually gain true omnipotence.

However, although the user may be perfect, they should be careful. The Diamondfly is said to have been perfect as well, and yet, it no longer exists.


And finally, I'm going with a plan that picks the Dark Arts guide over the Alchemy/Ancient Runes primer because it's presumably more difficult to otherwise obtain Dark Arts reference materials than Ancient Runes, given Dark Arts is, y'know, illegal.
 
To make a better more informed decision I am going to explain al of the choices provided to us in this chapter.

The first choice provided to us is the Old Wand. this would give us a back-up wand to use in emergencies that can be altered to make it better at casting certain spells. Overall a good pick that is not needed due to our amazing wand that we want to grind up a strong personal bond to and we are very good at wandless magic so the Old Wand is unneeded

The next choice provided is the Alchemy Primer. As the name suggests this would be a great way to prime ourselves for Alchemy if we wish to incorporate Alchemy into our build. I have seen a real interest for our potential fourth Trismegistus to be Alchemy so this would be a great pick to see if Alchemy would go well with our build. It also provides knowledge on Runes that we will find very useful.

Next is Impossible Perfection which provides a new avenue to explore in astrology. little explanation is provided but it seems to be full of potential that our build can take full advantage of.

Next is the Book of Dark Law which is a compendium of many forgotten dark spells. The salt king spell probably turns stuff/people into salt and the other two examples are self explanatory, but we could find many useful spells that might have little in the way of counters in the book.

Up next is the Blood of Slytherin. This seems to be amazingly powerful, but it is best in the hands of a potions specialist which we are not so we will not be able to take full advantage of. Also we know that the Heir of Slytherin will have the same blood so if we need some blood we just have to ask for the Heir's blood when we find the Heir.

Then there is the Secret of Heaven. This allows for fight but quite frankly if we need to fly we can use a broom and in any other situations in which flying is useful and we don't have a broom we can just use the cloak to get away from any situation with little stopping us.

Next up is the Secret of Ocean which gives us the ability to find Atlantis. this is amazing but sadly we are not in a position to take advantage of. Atlantis is going to be a very high-level area and we are not going to be able to explore it anytime soon. If we cant find it on our own efforts we can come back to the Chamber of Secrets later and find it then by spending 14 or so Gnosis

Lastly is the Secret of Earth which gives us access to horcruxes which can be very useful in having us not die but setting it up would take a lot of time and effort and feel like we are better served by putting that effort into getting stronger.
 
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The stars were shining in the night sky. Scattered like precious crystals, at this magical hour they twinkled especially brightly, radiating a calm light.
Reflected in the dark surface of the lake, the kingdom of the heavenly bodies and the world of the earth's firmament are joined together.
But for the wise, able to recognize the secret signs, the sky was a terrifying sight. The stars predicted a terrible catastrophe, destruction and irretrievable losses.
But, unfortunately for the whole world, only two young people looked at this splendor.
One of them was a short, black-haired young man with green eyes, while the other, as if in contrast to him, was a tall, blond blond man with piercing blue eyes.
To an outsider, they didn't look like each other, but those who bothered to look beyond the outside could see one fire burning equally in their eyes. As soon as this fire broke out, he burned everything in his path, sparing no one. And the name of this fire was revenge.
The thick silence was interrupted by the hoarse voice of a tall teenager.
"Are you sure everything will go according to plan?"
The black-haired youth pursed his lips into a thin line thoughtfully and shook his head.
"When it comes to such magic, it is impossible to say with certainty whether the expected result will turn out.
But you can be sure that everything possible has been done to ensure that fate is on our side."
An oppressive silence hung in the air, interrupted only by the chirping of nocturnal insects. The teenagers plunged into gloomy thoughts, their eyes staring into the lake, as if waiting for a secret sign.
After several minutes of such waiting, the voice of the green-eyed teenager was heard again.
"The time has come"
The two figures hurriedly headed towards the edge of the lake, stopping a couple of steps away from her.
The young sorcerer took a nondescript leather pouch from his belt. But, despite the size of the bag, he easily stuck his arm into it up to the elbow, pulling out mysteriously shiny flasks from it.
The contents of the first bottle poured into the lake, a thick black substance, similar to molasses, slowly splashed out onto the surface of the water without disturbing it at all. Then dozens of other mysterious-looking substances appeared, the combination of their smells gave rise to a disgusting cacophony of heterogeneous breaths in the air, forcing the second teenager to wince.
But soon the flow of potions stopped, and the wizard took his wand.
But before he could do anything, the blue-eyed teenager grabbed his shoulder. The black-haired youth turned around in confusion and looked straight at him.
The hoarse voice rang out again in the silence of the night.
"Whatever happens now, I want you to know. I'm grateful for everything, Harry."
With these words, Dudley removed his hand from his shoulder and silently walked away, as if surprised at his own sentimentality.
Harry, in response to this, only smiled soundlessly and nodded in appreciation. Turning away from his cousin, he continued to work his magic.
The first wave of the wand was accompanied by the name of Hermes, the second by a call to Uranus, and the further the screams were heard, the more celestial bodies, deities and constellations were named Harry.
He called them words filled with secret names of revenge. In his address to Uranus, he spoke about the cruelty of children who condemned him to a miserable existence. There was a cry of righteous anger in the appeal to Mars. In the prayer to Demeter, a howl was heard dedicated to the loss of her child. Cries of grief, sadness, anger hovered over the lake, reflected by a thousand distorted voices. As if responding to a gloomy call, the surface of the lake was filled with pitch-black foam.
This terrifying sight continued until human bodies began to appear on the surface. They looked like an elegant combination of human bodies with amphibian features. Many of the bodies had wounds boiled alive in boiling oil. The greenish skin on many bodies came off, admiring the mutilated insides. The agony of the moment of their merciless death froze on their dead faces.
The wizard squatted down wearily and looked at his cousin.
As if waking up from a trance, Dudley resolutely stepped with his feet into the dark slush that had once been water. The sound of his voice echoed over the desecrated lake. Resolute and firm, it sounded unnaturally loud in the dead silence.
"Since revenge requires revenge, *I * * The One Who takes revenge * call you * The One Who Wants Revenge*.
I am the one who will become the "Rock of All Magicians".
I am the one who will *destroy* the domination of magic over the human world.
I am the one who embodies the revenge of Arthur Pentragor.
I am Dudley Dursley, worthy to own you, Blade of the Hard Cleft, Caleburn, Excalibur.
Open up to me, serve me, and together we will fulfill our destiny."
After these words, a dead silence reigned for a moment in the gloomy place, broken by a faint gurgling.
Another body rose from under the black slime that had once been a lake. Disfigured like the others, he was distinguished only by the sword that protruded from the corpse's belly. Despite the mess that reigned around, the sword itself was clean and sparkling, the only thing that spoke of its internal corruption was the gloomy atmosphere, not befitting Excalibur.
Without hesitating for a second, Dudley ruthlessly tore the intended sword from the dead body, drenching himself with caustic blood.
But even this could not spoil the moment of his triumph. His eyes swept solemnly over the naked blade.
But the moment of sweet triumph was interrupted by Harry's tired voice.
"Stop standing there like an idol. The ministry will come here soon, I already feel that they will be here."
Dudley hurriedly left the former lake, approaching another teenager. Harry grabbed his shoulder after there was a bang and the two brothers disappeared. But for a few more seconds the echo carried around the burial ground a couple of words that the wind tore out of the conversation of relatives.
"The first step of the plan is completed"
[SPOILER/]
 
Up next is the Blood of Slytherin. This seems to be amazingly powerful, but it is best in the hands of a potions specialist which we are not so we will not be able to take full advantage of. Also we know that the Heir of Slytherin will have the same blood so if we need some blood we just have to ask for the Heir's blood when we find the Heir.
A small correction. Slytherin blood is valuable mainly because it can be used to create a Slytherin homunculus. But even if we don't buy this blood now, we can steal/exchange it when the heir of Slytherin searches his possessions. Because the heir will receive all the gifts that we did not take.
 
Excerpts from Discord on Geist Oaths

Birdsie What level of authority is needed to revoke or circumvent the Gates oath, and what kind of education will this require?

Birdsie
Gates oath?
I do not remember Harry swearing any oath at a gate.
It is possible, however, that I have missing memory.
Can you specify what oath?

I think this is an autocorrect of Geas, regarding the restriction of Geist.

An oath that prevents Geist from telling Harry about Atlantis.

Birdsie
It doesn't prevent him from telling Harry about Atlantis.
It prevents him from telling Harry a great multitude of secretive information.

Is it possible to use astronomy or dark magic to remove these restrictions or circumvent them?

Birdsie
Sure, unless it's an Unbreakable Vow.
In which case you're shit out of luck.
Although neither Astronomy nor Dark Arts are suited towards breaking curses.
Ancient Runes are better at that, as are Charms.
(Granted, this isn't a curse, strictly speaking.)
(But we're talking about magic removal.)

Is it possible to cheat an unbreakable oath with the help of astronomy or the dark arts. For example, by forcing her to consider Harry and Geist as one being for a while.

Birdsie
As a 25 Gnosis effect, maybe, but even then you'd have to already be Archmaster at minimum.

It's worth it to get all the secrets of the Dark Lord.
 
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[X] Plan Keep Saving!!!
-[X] Alchemy Primer
-[X] Impossible Perfection

Our skill in wandless magic means getting a new wand won't help us that much and Geist already knows and can teach us good dark arts already and we can already use him to learn the dementor summoning charm

Impossible Perfection sound like it could be really useful long term given even Slytherin was mildly obsessed with it and it fits in our build plus unlike the other options which for the most part we could get latter we probable won't easily be able to get this chance again if at all

We can get Slytherin blood from the next hair so the only advantages is using it to make a Slytherin homunculus which requires skill in alchemy we won't have for a while if ever

We also would not have any garneted way to secure their loyalty I think if we made a homunculus

The secrets are all things we can learn from Geist when we get rid of the curse he has so i don't think we should waste gnosis on them

We are close to the border of transcendence we can't be led astray by the shinny's now when we are so close

I think Neville may not be a founder hair

Some people seam to believe that being a chosen one under the chosen one stare is the same thing as being a fonder hair but Birdsie has only talked about two chosen ones so far not four

Pulse when Geist was talking to Bellatrix he said Harry and Neville where lost not that four people where lost and when Neville first told us about the founders hairs Geist thought he was insane or making it up meaning Neville and Harry being the chosen ones has to Be separate from being one of the founder hairs

I don't be on the discord much so Birdsie may have said something that disproves this already

I think Neville and Harry are the chosen ones of opposing sides in the guardian ancient conflict with the founders hairs being on the guardians side
and Neville and maybe others being on the ancient side

Neville does not have a super mega memory either since he normally does not remember his dreams remember him remembering that dream with the supposed guardian in it was noted as special to him because of him being to remember it so well so that level of remembrance is not normal for him

Also him knowing his way around the dungeon is not special when you think of it because he has been possibly been going down their for a while you don't need to be the sage to remember the layout of a place you spend a lot of time in or to get use to that place either

And Neville just finding gryffindors ring on the floor and Bringing use with him to see the super nova even thought we did not seamingly help him at all while he was apparently trying to keep what he was doing a secret is suspicious
 
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The first choice provided to us is the Old Wand. this would give us a back-up wand to use in emergencies that can be altered to make it better at casting certain spells. Overall a good pick that is not needed due to our amazing wand that we want to grind up a strong personal bond too and we are very good at wandless magic so the Old Wand is unneeded
The way I see it, the biggest advantage of this is that it doesn't have the trace on it, so we could practice whatever we wanted while we were on vacation without needing Sirius around.
 
[X] Plan Keep Saving!!!

I'm extremely excited for 50 gnosis. That's a really really big breakpoint. We can do some crazy stuff with 50 gnosis, now we just need to find an opportunity.
 
Does anyone have a plan on how we are going to find the heirs and their rings before year end because we ight suffer if we don't find and match them all assuming Neville's dream is telling the truth

Dose anyone agree with my theory of Neville not being a heir if not why don't you agree
 
Does anyone have a plan on how we are going to find the heirs and their rings before year end because we ight suffer if we don't find and match them all assuming Neville's dream is telling the truth

Dose anyone agree with my theory of Neville not being a heir if not why don't you agree
I suggest trying to finish off 50 Gnosis before the next update and then having the transcendence on hand to improve the map of looters. Even if something doesn't work out, I don't feel sorry for Neville.
 
I suggest trying to finish off 50 Gnosis before the next update and then having the transcendence on hand to improve the map of looters. Even if something doesn't work out, I don't feel sorry for Neville.

This is indeed the method that would be ideal. Getting 50 gnosis before the next update would be ideal. These were the choices we were offered the last time:

Excelsior [7 Gnosis] - All of your learning endeavors are doubled for next trimester; applies evenly to your Domains of Greatness.
Eternal [Astrology] Mastery [14 Gnosis] - Attain complete [Master]-y, in the fields of Astronomy and Astrology. All of the remaining 5th Year syllabus will become clear and translucent to you, and everything else up to 7th Year won't be that far behind. Discounts Dark Astrology.
Rending of Untold Infinities [25 Gnosis] - Attain [Master] in the fields of Astronomy and Astrology, and then make significant progress towards [Archmaster]. A stupefying level of advancement. All through sheer talent, you become more knowledgeable in these fields than your own teacher!
Eternal [Ancient Runes] Mastery [32 Gnosis] - Attain complete [Master]-y in the field of Ancient Runes, and [Proficient] in the field of Transfiguration. If you even bother taking Ancient Runes as an elective, you're sure to ace it.

In the worst case scenario I imagine that we will get improved versions of the above choices. Maybe something like Archmastery in Astronomy and even Astrology. which would be amazing in so many ways. Still, I hope we get different and fun choices. Archmaster Astrology + Master Charms could be great.
 
I'm not worried about Neville I'm worried about us we are one of the heirs if we don't match all of the rings with the correct heirs something bad might happen to us

Where do you think the Hufflepuff ring could be assuming it's at or in Hogwarts besides the challis or challis room

Did Helga Hufflepuff have anything important associated with her or directly do something important at or for Hogwarts

We should check with the house elves or where they work to
 
well Eternal Mastery of both Astrology and Ancient Runes cost 46 gnosis so due to the value of higher gnosis purchases, being able to grab mastery of all three of our subjects feels like a reasonable bonus to me we might even get some extras like how Ancient Runes comes with [Proficient] in the field of Transfiguration so saving seems to be for the best if we get to 50 gnosis in the next chapter
 
I kinda want master in stuff like Charms and/or transfiguration because that will directly lead to us being better at combat or at least give us more options. Ancient Runes could do that as well but that's a different beast but I generally prefer the more traditional branches of magic for combat.
 
that probably won't happen our gnosis study perks are based on our current capability's and we aren't good enough in those magics to get instant mastery or anything like that
 
Do people want to spend 50 gnosis on learning advancement, or do we want to spend 50 gnosis on a one time opportunity like patronus? I know patronus was one of the main reasons we saved up this much in the first place, but thrice great buffs make learning advancements a lot more efficient than normal.
 
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