[x] Removal of the Envious Curse
Harry Potter and the Scabbard of Excalibur [AU]
Parabola
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Well. That's. Something.
I'm inclined to think that we should start considering exorcising or somehow absorbing Geist. If that was the truth, this is indeed a painful sort of madness. If it's a lie, then it's a tormenting mind-game taking advantage of Harry's natural inclination to trust Geist and nothing else that he says can be trusted.
I'm inclined to think that we should start considering exorcising or somehow absorbing Geist. If that was the truth, this is indeed a painful sort of madness. If it's a lie, then it's a tormenting mind-game taking advantage of Harry's natural inclination to trust Geist and nothing else that he says can be trusted.
TaliesinSkye
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We noticed a while back the two acting in concert seemed to fit together and be greater than either alone. I proposed then that a unity of the two might be the best ending.
It seems Harry may already be a unity of the two, but he doesn't realize/accept it yet.
KidFromPallet
Pokemon Fan
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- Pallet Town
[X] Removal of the Accursed Name
[X] Removal of the Envious Curse
Might as well get rid of them both so they're not hanging over our heads.
[X] Removal of the Envious Curse
Might as well get rid of them both so they're not hanging over our heads.
I believe in the power of write-ins.
It might be prudent to focus on..
[X] Geist Intervention
-[X] Try to convince Gesit that no, he has agency and is his own person. It doesn't matter if he is a soul fragment and is using Harry to think. He is here now and a different person than who the Dark Lord was. He is still the most important part of Harry's life and his best friend. Promise him that he will find a way to get him a body of his own someday so he can start a new life and go on adventures together.
-[X] Try to persuade Geist to focus on a happy memory and see if he can cast a Patronus through you like he can perform legilimency. Perhaps seeing the evidence of his spirit animal standing in front of him could convince him away from this line of paranoid thinking.
[X] Visit the Chamber of Secrets
-[X] Secret of Earth [4 Gnosis] - A secret that Geist is not able to speak of, as part of his geas. As such, all you know is that it exists somewhere in the Chamber of Secrets and that you can potentially locate it, but not where it is, nor what it does. How excitingly curious.
-[X] Take your friends with you
-[X] Use the knowledge from the Chamber to see what you can start doing for Geist, to preserve his soul fragment
[X] Investigation: Disclosure & Demands
-[X] Disclose to Sirius about Dark Lord's spirit fragments. Tell him you can feel him in Hogwarts and you need to know what the Aurors are doing.
-[X] If unsuccessful, go to Dumbledore and demand answers.
[X] Animagus Transfiguration Plan
-[X] Try to get Transfiguration help from the older Inner Circle members.
-[X] Meet the other Animagus trainees
-[X] See if you can arrange a secret animagus tutor.
or alternatively...
[X] Reach out to Snape and..
-[X] Clear the air about the hospital incident and the subsequent letter
-[X] Covertly investigate if Snape's actually an undead
-[X] (to open up his story prompt and confirm Geist's suspicion - find out if he's really touched by Death)
-[X] Set up a deadman's switch in the form of a letter sent to yourself and forget that you're sending it (to meta-confirm if he is the Gilded King)
[X] Explore the Great Lake
-[X] Summon aquatic/amphibian demons (Grindylows, or better caliber ones)
-[X] Set them to explore the Great Lake
-[X] Legilimens to check up on their progress when they report
-[X] Attempt to craft something that lets you telepathically see and direct them as they explore.
[X] A Song of Forever [5 Gnosis]
-[X] Transfiguration: Animagus
Just throwing out possible actions to see if any take traction. I'd recommend against all of them at once cause we'd be spreading ourselves too thin that way. Transfiguration or the Chamber one for gnosis expenditure.
I'd rather not take Geist's word as gospel. He has been proven wrong before. Just because he is being emulated by Harry's mind doesn't make him any less real like he is claiming. The soul fragmenting might be drawing near it conclusion though.. So it might be prudent to start learning about souls and Horcuxes even if we don't intend to make one for ourselves.
It might be prudent to focus on..
[X] Geist Intervention
-[X] Try to convince Gesit that no, he has agency and is his own person. It doesn't matter if he is a soul fragment and is using Harry to think. He is here now and a different person than who the Dark Lord was. He is still the most important part of Harry's life and his best friend. Promise him that he will find a way to get him a body of his own someday so he can start a new life and go on adventures together.
-[X] Try to persuade Geist to focus on a happy memory and see if he can cast a Patronus through you like he can perform legilimency. Perhaps seeing the evidence of his spirit animal standing in front of him could convince him away from this line of paranoid thinking.
[X] Visit the Chamber of Secrets
-[X] Secret of Earth [4 Gnosis] - A secret that Geist is not able to speak of, as part of his geas. As such, all you know is that it exists somewhere in the Chamber of Secrets and that you can potentially locate it, but not where it is, nor what it does. How excitingly curious.
-[X] Take your friends with you
-[X] Use the knowledge from the Chamber to see what you can start doing for Geist, to preserve his soul fragment
[X] Investigation: Disclosure & Demands
-[X] Disclose to Sirius about Dark Lord's spirit fragments. Tell him you can feel him in Hogwarts and you need to know what the Aurors are doing.
-[X] If unsuccessful, go to Dumbledore and demand answers.
[X] Animagus Transfiguration Plan
-[X] Try to get Transfiguration help from the older Inner Circle members.
-[X] Meet the other Animagus trainees
-[X] See if you can arrange a secret animagus tutor.
or alternatively...
[X] Reach out to Snape and..
-[X] Clear the air about the hospital incident and the subsequent letter
-[X] Covertly investigate if Snape's actually an undead
-[X] (to open up his story prompt and confirm Geist's suspicion - find out if he's really touched by Death)
-[X] Set up a deadman's switch in the form of a letter sent to yourself and forget that you're sending it (to meta-confirm if he is the Gilded King)
[X] Explore the Great Lake
-[X] Summon aquatic/amphibian demons (Grindylows, or better caliber ones)
-[X] Set them to explore the Great Lake
-[X] Legilimens to check up on their progress when they report
-[X] Attempt to craft something that lets you telepathically see and direct them as they explore.
[X] A Song of Forever [5 Gnosis]
-[X] Transfiguration: Animagus
Just throwing out possible actions to see if any take traction. I'd recommend against all of them at once cause we'd be spreading ourselves too thin that way. Transfiguration or the Chamber one for gnosis expenditure.
I'd rather not take Geist's word as gospel. He has been proven wrong before. Just because he is being emulated by Harry's mind doesn't make him any less real like he is claiming. The soul fragmenting might be drawing near it conclusion though.. So it might be prudent to start learning about souls and Horcuxes even if we don't intend to make one for ourselves.
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Eh, I'm not gonna worry too much about this part.
Probably because I already suspected he was more Harry than Dark Lord, but more so because the arguments are flaccid. If Geist speaks the truth, then his own words are even now suspect. The self-doubt of a burgeoning schoolboy, as opposed to the megalomania of a traumatized child. I trust neither.
Frankly - the timing is more interesting. If the subject of disparate soul-material spliced cravenly into still-living vessels is coming up now, does that imply connection? The prospect that Harry may not be in truth the reincarnation of an Atlantean teenager, but rather that these dreams could be merely the vocoded recitation of a long-forgotten monomyth, implies the content of his dreams could be wrong.
There exists the possibility that it's all hogwash - in which case we're dealing with a solipsism scenario, and death has Harry in a self-fulfilling prophecy. Another outcome is that it's all true, and Harry is actually not alive right now. This period in the timeline could be the illusion, created as an extension of Atlantean para-psychology and rationalized mysticism. If it's somewhere in-between, then we need to be searching for the threads of truth and not worrying about a solution per se.
Probably because I already suspected he was more Harry than Dark Lord, but more so because the arguments are flaccid. If Geist speaks the truth, then his own words are even now suspect. The self-doubt of a burgeoning schoolboy, as opposed to the megalomania of a traumatized child. I trust neither.
Frankly - the timing is more interesting. If the subject of disparate soul-material spliced cravenly into still-living vessels is coming up now, does that imply connection? The prospect that Harry may not be in truth the reincarnation of an Atlantean teenager, but rather that these dreams could be merely the vocoded recitation of a long-forgotten monomyth, implies the content of his dreams could be wrong.
There exists the possibility that it's all hogwash - in which case we're dealing with a solipsism scenario, and death has Harry in a self-fulfilling prophecy. Another outcome is that it's all true, and Harry is actually not alive right now. This period in the timeline could be the illusion, created as an extension of Atlantean para-psychology and rationalized mysticism. If it's somewhere in-between, then we need to be searching for the threads of truth and not worrying about a solution per se.
I am really busy lately so I can't really get fully invested in this turn yet, but I think that Geist is mostly talking nonsense in regard to how his perception is inherently limited by Harry.
After all, he is the one that taught Harry the Dark Arts, and Harry sure as shit didn't know them before (or what he was talking about with Bellatrix or any other thing).
Not to mention that we already got a Geist POV before, showing that he is very much his own person.
After all, he is the one that taught Harry the Dark Arts, and Harry sure as shit didn't know them before (or what he was talking about with Bellatrix or any other thing).
Not to mention that we already got a Geist POV before, showing that he is very much his own person.
- Location
- California
[X] Visit the Chamber of Secrets
-[X] Secret of Earth [4 Gnosis] - A secret that Geist is not able to speak of, as part of his geas. As such, all you know is that it exists somewhere in the Chamber of Secrets and that you can potentially locate it, but not where it is, nor what it does. How excitingly curious.
-[X] Take your friends with you
-[X] Use the knowledge from the Chamber to see what you can start doing for Geist, to preserve his soul fragment
-[X] Secret of Earth [4 Gnosis] - A secret that Geist is not able to speak of, as part of his geas. As such, all you know is that it exists somewhere in the Chamber of Secrets and that you can potentially locate it, but not where it is, nor what it does. How excitingly curious.
-[X] Take your friends with you
-[X] Use the knowledge from the Chamber to see what you can start doing for Geist, to preserve his soul fragment
TaliesinSkye
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I think the thrust of what Geist is suggesting is that Geist and Harry are one being that has compartmentalized itself into two personalities and sets of memories in order to deal with the trauma.
My thinking is that Geist is either right, or Geist is lying and wants Harry to absorb what remains of him so he can cease to be and rest.
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That probably isn't really true either, otherwise Geist wouldn't have claimed that it's possible to resurrect him from Harry's own body pretty much whenever he wanted.
It's more likely that we are "on our way" to achieving such an outcome than it being outright the case right now.
- Location
- Poland
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Removal of the Accursed Name
[X] Removal of the Envious Curse
I just want those two things gone.
Not sure what Geist is still, and I guess this update doesn't truly answer it.
All we know is that other parts of HIM are reconnecting. And sooner or later that thing that Aurors fought tonight may get another fragment.
Or there is some other, less bestial and more cunning fragment plotting how to reunite.
[X] Removal of the Envious Curse
I just want those two things gone.
Not sure what Geist is still, and I guess this update doesn't truly answer it.
All we know is that other parts of HIM are reconnecting. And sooner or later that thing that Aurors fought tonight may get another fragment.
Or there is some other, less bestial and more cunning fragment plotting how to reunite.
Come on guys, I know Immersion is more high stakes but we shouldn't let Scabbard fall in the wayside like this. There's barely one page of engagement 
We had such an interesting update too, that with the Dark lord exorcism and Geist reveal. There's plenty of other things we can focus on if animagus studies and the investigation isn't everyone's cup of tea. We have whole two months to plan for..
There were other stuff in the works like the notebook Network plans, Forbidden forest centaur visit, Demon summoning (we learned about intangible demons on DADA - worth looking into?) Impossible Perfection, Dementor taming, Ravenclaw DA Circle introduction, Fixing our eyes, The Dungeon mystery..
Also didn't the envious curse vote won back before and it was said it needs to be an Astrological rite in a specific month?
We had such an interesting update too, that with the Dark lord exorcism and Geist reveal. There's plenty of other things we can focus on if animagus studies and the investigation isn't everyone's cup of tea. We have whole two months to plan for..
There were other stuff in the works like the notebook Network plans, Forbidden forest centaur visit, Demon summoning (we learned about intangible demons on DADA - worth looking into?) Impossible Perfection, Dementor taming, Ravenclaw DA Circle introduction, Fixing our eyes, The Dungeon mystery..
Also didn't the envious curse vote won back before and it was said it needs to be an Astrological rite in a specific month?
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OctarineShrike
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If we're on this line of thought we still haven't ever visited Hufflepuff Area 51 too.
After his latest foray into the ongoing investigation, Harry decided to take a little break and channel his increasing skills in Astrology into a ritual to break the spell that young Voldemort had cast over the school's Defense Against the Dark Arts position. It didn't seem like Geist was bothered, even providing some advice in a couple of areas, particularly the nature of the Dark Arts that had been utilized in the curse's creation. However, in either case, Harry would have to wait several months to cast the spell, as the astral alignment necessary to break the curse only occurred twice a year, and the closest one was in late June.
It's still April-May, we already voted to remove the curse guys. I guess this could still count as extra prep for next turn..
I completely forgot about the alien magic angle. Is it the Martians, or someone else I wonder.. Scabbard is so very rich in lore and world building. We've barely scratched the surface of things.
It's still April-May, we already voted to remove the curse guys. I guess this could still count as extra prep for next turn..
I completely forgot about the alien magic angle. Is it the Martians, or someone else I wonder.. Scabbard is so very rich in lore and world building. We've barely scratched the surface of things.
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If we already chosen to remove the curse over the position then what *does* taking this a second time would give us? Or is it a thing where the option wasn't applicable and thus we weren't able to buy it?
Regarding what we should do this turn...
Well frankly, I've not really been all that involved to be honest, but I Still think that we should consider visiting the bottom of the Black Lake either this turn or during June, when the water won't be as cold.
At any rate, I'll vote for what I've been voting for the entire time.
[X] Animagus Transfiguration Plan
-[X] Try to get Transfiguration help from the older Inner Circle members.
-[X] Meet the other Animagus trainees
-[X] See if you can arrange a secret animagus tutor.
We already bought it iirc, perhaps this was an oversight? It's hard to keep track of so many things in the background..
I second the lake exploration idea, but we should prep to make sure we have a way to get back to the surface safely. And brainstorm the underwater exploration measures. Maybe summon underwater demons to help out scouting too? Grindylows are common in the lake aren't they? We have the covenant strength too.
Also can you think of a good in-character reason for Harry to check out the lake? Does he remember the dream with Dudley and the knights? Maybe Harry might want to map out the lake as well since he has the map. See the merpeople.
[] Explore the Great Lake
-[] Summon aquatic/amphibian demons (Grindylows, or better caliber ones)
-[] Set them to explore the Great Lake
-[] Legilimens to check up on their progress when they report
-[] Attempt to craft something that lets you telepathically see and direct them as they explore.
I second the lake exploration idea, but we should prep to make sure we have a way to get back to the surface safely. And brainstorm the underwater exploration measures. Maybe summon underwater demons to help out scouting too? Grindylows are common in the lake aren't they? We have the covenant strength too.
Also can you think of a good in-character reason for Harry to check out the lake? Does he remember the dream with Dudley and the knights? Maybe Harry might want to map out the lake as well since he has the map. See the merpeople.
[] Explore the Great Lake
-[] Summon aquatic/amphibian demons (Grindylows, or better caliber ones)
-[] Set them to explore the Great Lake
-[] Legilimens to check up on their progress when they report
-[] Attempt to craft something that lets you telepathically see and direct them as they explore.
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Probably triggered a background event in motion that's going to pop up at the nearest opportunity as we go along. Birdsie tends to write things so they are narratively cohesive as a whole with the ongoing plot.
Why do we need legilimency to interact with our demons?
Also, I highly doubt that the merpeople would be overly friendly to demons in their lake, they may even report this.
I think that creating a potion that will let us breathe underwater would be overall preferable, or perhaps a bubblehead charm or something of the sort.
Harry does remember his vision about Excalibur being thrown into the lake.
Merpeople domesticate Grindylows canonically.. There are also whole packs of wild Grindylows in the lake. Even with the Bubblehead charm exploring the lake has significant risks - lot of hostile elements down there. Isn't it more efficient not to bog Harry down with this when he could just delegate to specialized minons? It's not like summoning demons is particularly difficult for him that with his unused covenant strength. Compared to the risk of running out of magic when exploring underwater.. He doesn't have a charms speciality but DA and Runes. Also this also means he doesn't have to disappear for extended bits of time.
The legilimency part was so he could directly see points of interests, if the Grindylows aren't intelligent enough to communicate. The direct vision sharing crafting an added bonus if he can pull through it - it's going to come in handy in the future too, especially with our rats.
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I mean sure, but the issue is that these aren't *their* Grindylows.
And also, communicating with merpeople can only be done properly underwater, unless you know their language you won't be able to understand them above water, so even if Harry somehow develops a long-distance communication thing he will still need to like find a bucket or something to submerge himself under water... and even then they might just ignore the Grindylows outright.
I really think that a personal visit is the most favorable course of action.
Also...
Running out of magic? That's not a thing.
As in plain mental exhaustion from sustained casting, but I assume Harry would have backups too like a potion. We can always go for a personal visit after the Grindylows have gotten the bulk of the exploration out of the way. The mermen wouldn't necessarily be able to keep track of all the wild Grindylows - which are numerous, and assume the summoned ones are local? We can also ignore the mermen for now and leave them to Harry - the point is get a lay of the land, or rather the lake.
Basically the reason I'm pushing for this cause I'm a fan of bulk of our effort done in the background without requiring our direct attention. Frees us up to do the other things. And for the rare chance to use our Dark Arts safely. It really doesn't cost us anything to summon a few demons when we have unused covenant strength anyways. Also pulling unusual stunts is delicious
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I'm still waiting for GUN CONTROL to come back from that fishing trip.Come on guys, I know Immersion is more high stakes but we shouldn't let Scabbard fall in the wayside like this. There's barely one page of engagement
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