OctarineShrike
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Eh why not.
[X] Remove the stripe and ask her why she tried to sneak into your house.
[X] Remove the stripe and ask her why she tried to sneak into your house.
Green Sun, Black Shadows (CG/Exalted)
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Alexander89
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Yep. A nightmare born of madness, that spreads himself through the dreams of others and sow more of his own madness. Like Freddy Krueger, but instead of killing you he gives a nice derangement wrapped up in a nice ribbon. Not out of malice, but because that's how he is.
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Is important to remember that wharever demons we spawn will have very different personalities depending of the intimacy in which they are based. A demon that represents out love for Nunnally will have nothing to do with one that comes from our hate against Brittania.
Also now i am wondering how our Po will be like.
Also now i am wondering how our Po will be like.
Note - that only applies to the Second Circle Demons created by Titanic Heart Overwheening. The First Circle Demons created by Titanic Spawn Uncountable aren't bound to an Intimacy.
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
[X] Muse of Unearthly Delights
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Wouldn't it also be a costume director? Somebody who helps us really look like and get into our roles (who just so happens to also be representative of all of the roles we're getting into?)?
Or is my interpretative too optimistic?
ReaperofInterest
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Are we the only one with a demon born from our soul right now? Or will our Coven-mates also get 1?
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Well, looking like someone can be done with Ebon Dragon Charms, and Lelouch can probably act pretty damn well, especially if we boost his Performance skill.
We don't have any demons born from our soul yet as we don't have the Charms we're talking about as of yet. All Green Sun Princes have a demon in their heads like Seyrun, but those are just the demons who delivered their Exaltations.
Maybe I don't fully get the Pantheon keyword, but wouldn't a demon crafter that can only make an item once be of limited utility?
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Demons spawned from a Pantheon charm are also based in our intimacies, at least that's how i undertand it from Kerisgame. (From our intimacies and from the Yozi whose charm you are learning , to be more exact)
Pantheon demons are the same as any other demons, you can summon and bind them.
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Not necessarily. Each thing it creates could be unique, but...
1. The items it creates might be something others can copy, or at least use as a prototype to make their own versions. Just because Oramus's creations are unique does not mean others can't copy or at least mimic his work.
2. In its function as a muse, it may have the Charm that birthed it, and be able to help others.
3. If the items are for personal use, one offs aren't necessarily a bad thing.
4. The uniqueness of an item doesn't necessarily mean it has to be completely unique in all aspects. A demon crafter might produce for us unique poisons, with us providing unique crafting ingredients via Reality Raking Claws, so that each batch of poison it creates is unique and so we'll always have poison nobody has developed a particular cure for.
That's not what the actual text of the Charms say, and the Pantheon keyword doesn't involve it either.
Titanic Spawn Uncountable - The player and the GM should design the new species based on the birthing ritual, the Infernal's intent, and her personality, and it should be balanced based on the examples of extant First Circle Demons.
No mention of Intimacy there, just personality. Also, you can spawn as many of these as you want. (meaning you can make dozens of a single species of your new First Circle Demons if you're willing to invest the time into it)
Titanic Heart Overweening specifically mentions that the Second Circle Demons created from it are based on your Intimacies, and they're limited by the number of Intimacies you have.
Alexander89
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It's not. But keep in mind that the additional souls start as "newborn", little better than children. This may sound like heresy (and it is, by Creation's standards) but the best metaphor is that the souls will be Lelouch's "sons" and "daughters", and he will need to raise them.
This is valid only for souls created by Pantheon Charms. Titanic Spawn Uncountable and Titanic Heart Overweening creates full formed and adult Demons.
Yes, but Lelouch isn't a Defiler, so he doesn't need to be able to mass produce specific things.
Nope. The Demons made from Titanic Heart Overweening are based on Intimacies. Here, I will provide an example:
Aleph said:
Milly's teasing will destroy us, heh.
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Yes? I am a bit confused here. Are you saying that only demons spawned from THO are based in intimacies, and those born from Pantheon charms not? Because all of Keris demons come from panteon charms,(She doesn't have THO) and all of them are based in her principles, as well as in the relevant Yozi.
Alexander89
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Yes. That's how it is explained in the text: THO demons are based on Intimacies, and start off as strong as newly formed Second Circle Demon (Essence 4). TSU Demons are like First Circle Demons, beings created to fulfill a specific task, and whose method to do it depends on their creator (Lelouch). Pantheon Demons are manifestations of the Charm that created them and resembles the Yozis they come from, but since they are newborn Lelouch can raise them however he prefers, making possible for them to change.
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Pantheon souls are also based in the GSP intimacies. Well, at least Keris ones are. Echo represents her love of freedom (This isn't evident, since freedom is an Adorjani aspect anyway, but still). Haneyl spawned from her love for Sasi, and is Sasi and Keris daughter. Rathan comes from the heartbreak from losing Rat.
Could you clarify on this a bit? I'm under the impression that the Pantheon Demons don't really spawn in the outside world and are just inside the Infernal, so how would we go about raising these additional souls? Maybe something like in A Green Sun Illuminates The Void where they appear in our dreams as Yozi/Charm aspected versions of the Infernal (or the inner worlds we create) and we interact with them there? Or maybe the Heretical Charms we make off them affect their nature?
The actual Charm and Keyword descriptions given here do not say that. Whatever the Keris stuff you're using as a base is, forget it for the purposes of this quest.
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After we learn Fourth Soul Devil domain we can meditate to enter our soul-world (And talk with all the people there)
(We can also send and recover little objects, allowing to smuggle weapons, or giving cigars to Seyrun. Or giving raw materials to the demons there so they can craft)
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Alexander89
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They don't, beside from when you use the Charm. But they exist inside the Devil Domain, just like your UC, and since you can interact with it by meditation and sleeping, you can oversee the development of those newborn souls. You can also leave it to your UC, but considering those beings will, one day, make precious allies it may be best to invest some time regardless.
The reason I asked is because the Charm description for Fourth Soul Devil Domain doesn't actually say that the souls other than the coadjutor and those created by TSU and THO live there. (which is in their respective descriptions) When you add these to the purchase list you may want to make some edits to clarify that, because the whole 'baby demon' thing isn't really all that clear from the vanilla versions of the Charms, so I assume you're homebrewing this a bit further.
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The baby demon thing comes directly from Kerisgame. And yes, the Charms and the pantheon keyword text need some revision.
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