Green Sun, Black Shadows (CG/Exalted)

Hmmm, I think Nicholas might do well as someone who works to improve our infrastructure.

Really? Huh. I had thought that you could have Favored abilities without any dots in them, but evidently not. Can Abilities become Favored after character creation?

You can have them with zero dots if they're Caste Favored abilities, but not Personal Favored ones. No, you can't have Abilities become favored later - you pick them at character creation.

I'd also say that War is a very poor choice of Favored Ability for this character - he just doesn't seem the type, regardless of his intelligence, to lead a battle. He doesn't like the notion of making weapons, so making war would also not be something he'd do. He's also absentminded, which is a major detriment in battle planning and execution.

No, they cannot. If you have them, you are stuck with them. Might be a charm for it some where, but if it does exist it's probably a E4+ charm

You can change your Caste abilities in the Devil Tiger path, but that's the only one I know of.
 
You can change your Caste abilities in the Devil Tiger path, but that's the only one I know of.
And even then, that only Let's you reassign your group of favored and caste Abilities differently.

For example, you're a Scourge who favors Melee, Thrown, Survival, Presence, and Craft. You take that charm, and you switch out Larceny in your Caste Abilities for Melee, and Melee in your Favored Abilities for Larceny. However, you cannot make Presence a Caste Ability, and you cannot make Stealth a nonfavored ability
 
Umm, @Enjou? Do you remember when I was worried about how our story how we met Suzaku might lead to problems in the future? I was rereading this whole quest (again) when I stumbled upon this:
"For me?" Kallen replies confused before taking it. "Hello?"

"Glad to see you're okay Q-1." Even if you can't hear it you know exactly what she is hearing, since you made the tape yourself. "The day after tomorrow at 1600 hours, come to the viewing platform at Tokyo Tower. You can bring your friends: it's time you and me finally meet."

"Wait! Tell me, are you the one from Shinjuku?!" She yells into the phone, but the registration has ended and so had the call.

"Shinjuku?" You ask her.

"Ah. Well you see-"

"Yesterday me and my friend passed near it. We didn't see anything, but it's better this way." You sit down and frown a little while sorting the documents. "We were too busy calming down after a truck almost run us over. It even crashed into a building yard and then run away before we could call the rescuers. Can you believe it?"

Her mouth clamps shut, pink spreading on her cheeks. "Yes, the type of people they give a license those days..." She laughs nervously.
And here is the execution of covering Lelouch's friendship with Suzaku:
Seyrun takes the hint and quiets down. You don't know how Suzaku survived, but you can catch up with him later. For now you need to make sure neither of you reveal anything that might link him to your secret past. "Well, I have to say I'm surprised, Suzaku. I would never have expected to see you here, but it's good to see you again." You say, smiling honestly. You turn to Rivalz, pushing your internal Essence to strengthen the lie. "Rivalz, have you met Suzaku? He helped me out after that idiot driver in the truck accident drove off with me inside."

"Really? You never told me how it ended." Rivalz grins and playfully slaps Suzaku's back. "Thanks for helping my buddy. I would have followed them, but the police cordoned off the streets."

"Ah...ah..." Suzaku hesitates. He looks to the side with a nervous smile, idly scratching above his ear. "I did nothing special. It was just the right thing to do."

"Still more than those other 'spectators' did." You shrug. "It turned out the driver had an urgent delivery, and missing the timeline would have meant losing his job. They apologized and all that, but if it was not for Suzaku giving me a ride I would had to walk back from the other side of the city. My phone's battery was lost in the commotion, so I couldn't even call Sayoko."

"What a story!" Rivalz crosses his arms and nods, no trace of doubt in his expression. "And here I was afraid you ended up trapped in Shinjuku during the incident."
And well, it clearly doesn't match. Now, fortunately it looks like Kallen hasn't noticed this yet, likely because she hates the gossipping that the normal students engage in and her new duties in the Studend Council allowing her to insulate herself from the majority of the students, in addition of her ditching school while pretending to be sick.

I would guess that she knows the watered down version which goes something like "That Eleven transfer student Suzaku helped Lord Lelouch when he was in trouble!" This might be because our QM didn't notice it before (and now it suddenly matters; Ooops), or I might have uncovered something he was planning to use later on to blindside us. Or maybe it doesn't ever come up. BUT ALL PLOT HOLES MUST BE POINTED OUT AND FILLED! TO JUST LET THEM BE WOULD BE A GRAVE SIN!

Ahem. Anyway, just something I felt should be taken into consideration when planning. If Lelouch gets to address this before Kallen realizes anything, I don't think it will be much of a problem. And that is if we even have to do anything, as the initial surge about the event will now be buried underneath the surface by everybody focusing on news and rumours about Zero, though the fanclub has likely collected and stored such important information on us on their webpage. Which we also luckily destroyed a while ago.

Now, we will just have to erase anything from any backups or other storage mediums, and eliminate the witnesses and those with accurate knowledge about it. Paranoia, you say? Its not really paranoia when there are fate-ninjas hiding in teacups, just waiting for us to slip so that they can punch us into a duck.
 
Recently obtained Mancle and Coin, so I thought I would try and stat up the Black Knights in it. Here goes!

Name: Black Knights
Motivation: Create a japan no longer under Britannia
Intimacies:
[Tab]Britannia (Hatred) (Negative)
[Tab]Japan (Love) (Positive)
Leader: Zero (Overall), Ohgi (Day to day)

Assets: Size 3, Competence 2, Influence 3, Wealth 3, Reach 4, Special Asset 6 (Zero), Special Asset 6 (Kaguya Sumeragi), Special Asset 6 (Rakshata Chawla), Special Asset 4?(Guren Mk-II)

Anything I missed? Got wrong? Any more intimacies you can think of?
 
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Umm, @Enjou? Do you remember when I was worried about how our story how we met Suzaku might lead to problems in the future? I was rereading this whole quest (again) when I stumbled upon this:

And here is the execution of covering Lelouch's friendship with Suzaku:

And well, it clearly doesn't match. Now, fortunately it looks like Kallen hasn't noticed this yet, likely because she hates the gossipping that the normal students engage in and her new duties in the Studend Council allowing her to insulate herself from the majority of the students, in addition of her ditching school while pretending to be sick.

I would guess that she knows the watered down version which goes something like "That Eleven transfer student Suzaku helped Lord Lelouch when he was in trouble!" This might be because our QM didn't notice it before (and now it suddenly matters; Ooops), or I might have uncovered something he was planning to use later on to blindside us. Or maybe it doesn't ever come up. BUT ALL PLOT HOLES MUST BE POINTED OUT AND FILLED! TO JUST LET THEM BE WOULD BE A GRAVE SIN!

Ahem. Anyway, just something I felt should be taken into consideration when planning. If Lelouch gets to address this before Kallen realizes anything, I don't think it will be much of a problem. And that is if we even have to do anything, as the initial surge about the event will now be buried underneath the surface by everybody focusing on news and rumours about Zero, though the fanclub has likely collected and stored such important information on us on their webpage. Which we also luckily destroyed a while ago.

Now, we will just have to erase anything from any backups or other storage mediums, and eliminate the witnesses and those with accurate knowledge about it. Paranoia, you say? Its not really paranoia when there are fate-ninjas hiding in teacups, just waiting for us to slip so that they can punch us into a duck.

What, you're just noticing this now? Yeah, I knew that a long time ago. Hell, I'm pretty sure I knew it during the vote then. (I think someone pointed it out then too) It's not a plot hole, it's just a little difference in the related lies we've told at two different points in time. It just wasn't and isn't a significant risk, all things considered. The most likely risk IMO is that Kallen gets a bit suspicious, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing seeing as we're intending to eventually reveal to her that we're Zero. (honestly, we're pretty much going to have to once Ashford Academy becomes Infernal Academy - she's going to recognize people like Nathan in attendance)

And as you said everyone else has probably glossed over it by now.
 
What, you're just noticing this now? Yeah, I knew that a long time ago. Hell, I'm pretty sure I knew it during the vote then. (I think someone pointed it out then too) It's not a plot hole, it's just a little difference in the related lies we've told at two different points in time. It just wasn't and isn't a significant risk, all things considered. The most likely risk IMO is that Kallen gets a bit suspicious, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing seeing as we're intending to eventually reveal to her that we're Zero. (honestly, we're pretty much going to have to once Ashford Academy becomes Infernal Academy - she's going to recognize people like Nathan in attendance)

And as you said everyone else has probably glossed over it by now.
I don't remember if this particular part was ever mentioned in the original discussion. Casual scrolling through the conversation didn't reveal it either. Though I was being paranoid back then too, and tried to sell you the idea of doing more to ensure that the information wouldn't spread too much.

Now, I know that you are very likely correct, and nothing bad wil come out of this. Its just I can seem to get over the idea that some small detail will screw Lelouch and us over in everything. I blame the original show.

On more rational side of things, when do you think it would be a good time to introduce Kallen to our secret? Should we also include Ohgi? Should we include magic? I'm thinking that it is now much more feasible because we have Kaguya on our side to back our words. Two socially focused Exalted against two targets, who already respect and maybe even revere them? Against mortals, its almost unfair.
 
I don't remember if this particular part was ever mentioned in the original discussion. Casual scrolling through the conversation didn't reveal it either. Though I was being paranoid back then too, and tried to sell you the idea of doing more to ensure that the information wouldn't spread too much.

Now, I know that you are very likely correct, and nothing bad wil come out of this. Its just I can seem to get over the idea that some small detail will screw Lelouch and us over in everything. I blame the original show.

On more rational side of things, when do you think it would be a good time to introduce Kallen to our secret? Should we also include Ohgi? Should we include magic? I'm thinking that it is now much more feasible because we have Kaguya on our side to back our words. Two socially focused Exalted against two targets, who already respect and maybe even revere them? Against mortals, its almost unfair.
Unless I'm mistaken we were always going to reveal magic to them, just after they were sufficiently devoted to us. So probably once our entire circle is here.

And given the grand plan (lets have Japan worship the Yozis) they will have to learn, and given their instrumental role in that plan, I would err on the side of sooner.

When the time comes their will probly be a vote on it tbh.
 
On more rational side of things, when do you think it would be a good time to introduce Kallen to our secret? Should we also include Ohgi? Should we include magic? I'm thinking that it is now much more feasible because we have Kaguya on our side to back our words. Two socially focused Exalted against two targets, who already respect and maybe even revere them? Against mortals, its almost unfair.

It was already in the general plan to reveal magic and the Yozi religion to the Black Knights - Lelouch was simply wanting Kaguya to do it, as she's more likely to be able to convert them successfully.

As I said, Kallen will have to learn Lelouch is Zero soon simply due to necessity. Nathan, possibly other Infernals, and most likely Kaguya (due to her romantic obsession with Lelouch as well as since it gives her reason to be in the area of our secret underground base) will likely be attending Ashford Academy soon and the coincidences will pile up and make her suspicious if we don't. I'm actually more of a mind to triple team her and have Milly along as well. Magic shouldn't be necessary, aside from Excellencies - she already finds Lelouch fascinating just from having been around him, and her Intimacies towards Zero should transfer well since she hasn't come to be disgusted with Lelouch like in canon.

Ohgi I'm not so sure on, at least for now. Lelouch's identity is kind of a need to know thing. It would be a good thing to reveal just to build trust, but that may not be a good enough reason. It should eventually happen though.
 
YOU USE ALCOR FOR TESLA IMAGE?

YES YES FLUFFY WHITE HAIR I AM OKAY WITH THIS! We will flood the world with pretty white haired people. No one can stop us.

I used to have a whole folder just for Alcor, made via hours and hours of hunting through pixiv and various other sites. Rip old laptop.
 
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So, just to get ahead on this for when it eventually happens, but when we get Titanic Spawn Uncountable what kind of demons should we make? We've currently got two souls we can base them on.

Here are some of my thoughts.

Anesidora
- Combat oriented demons. She doesn't seem the type to have a lot of combat potential herself, but she's Lelouch's brilliance distilled and given form. That means she'll be very good at commanding, and so making some combat demons would be idea.
-- Anesidoran Anuhles: We're expanding the Dark Green Fangs, and while our Anuhles actually seem to have better stats than normal Anuhles (Seyrun apparently recruited from the best) they aren't necessarily as good without as around to lead them as they could be. We could create officers who are decent at War and general operational planning, and thus can lead the other Anuhles on field missions and whatnot. They'd probably be a bit more disciplined, too.
-- Footsoldier: It might be good to make a general footsoldier type demon. Something strong, fast, and powerful. Blood Apes are great for the role, but they are rather bloodthirsty and there can be issues having large numbers of them summoned in Creation. Something similar to the Baidak (The Empty Pawns) might be good as well. Regardless, having demon soldiers that are intrinsically loyal to us would be good.
- Crafters. Anesidora's Urge includes making new weapons. Having assistants would be quite helpful with that, especially if she's got any larger projects going on.
- Advisers. Not necessarily for Lelouch, as he's got Anesidora herself, but these might be send into the field of battle to advise officers in the army or help with civil planning.

Sinnihtáre
- Musicians, Dancers, and other Performers. Music is central to her nature, and creating capable performers could be useful for a number of things.
- Sentinels. Sinnihtáre's Urge involves creating relaxing environments. How can one relax with the possibility of assassins being there at all times? By having competent guards, of course. High Perception and Awareness guard demons would be something useful to have. And you know Lelouch would rest easier if Nunnally had someone a bit more dedicated than the Dark Green Fangs around to keep an eye on Nunnally.
- Heralds, Assistants, Bureaucrats - Work, work, work. Does Sinnihtáre's father ever take a break? Maybe if he had some more capable people to delegate to he could relax a bit more and indulge himself.
- Consorts - Not for Lelouch. He's got more than enough on his plate. No, these would actually be for other people. "My, you've served my father so well, so here, have your own personal demon slave to do what you want with." The fact that they'd actually be Sinnihtáre's loyal spies who would be looking out for signs of disloyalty or gathering blackmail material might not occur to the poor sods. Lelouch certainly can relax knowing she's keeping abreast of the goings of his underlings.

Any other ideas?
 
Tinkers, Tailors, Soldiers, Spies...oh my!

In all seriousness, what you've got so far looks pretty comprehensive to me. No obviously major deficiencies, and a good number of needs are covered. Perhaps a diplomat to handle talking to people we don't particularly like, like Akio? Apart from that, I think you've got everything we need right now, or in the near future.
 
Sinnihtáre
- Musicians, Dancers, and other Performers. Music is central to her nature, and creating capable performers could be useful for a number of things.
- Sentinels. Sinnihtáre's Urge involves creating relaxing environments. How can one relax with the possibility of assassins being there at all times? By having competent guards, of course. High Perception and Awareness guard demons would be something useful to have. And you know Lelouch would rest easier if Nunnally had someone a bit more dedicated than the Dark Green Fangs around to keep an eye on Nunnally.
- Heralds, Assistants, Bureaucrats - Work, work, work. Does Sinnihtáre's father ever take a break? Maybe if he had some more capable people to delegate to he could relax a bit more and indulge himself.
- Consorts - Not for Lelouch. He's got more than enough on his plate. No, these would actually be for other people. "My, you've served my father so well, so here, have your own personal demon slave to do what you want with." The fact that they'd actually be Sinnihtáre's loyal spies who would be looking out for signs of disloyalty or gathering blackmail material might not occur to the poor sods. Lelouch certainly can relax knowing she's keeping abreast of the goings of his underlings.
Black Chess Theme. Nothing so crass as outright showing it or anything, but she's obviously a Black Princess (as opposed to a Queen). Therefore, in accordance with that and other themes of hers, she should totally rip off Jyggalag instead!
Knights, Frontline fighters
Priests for clerical duties
And these guys for generals

All black and crystalline, of course. Also, they should have both a strict hierarchy and total number: Knights defer to priests who defer to generals who defer to her, and whenever anybody dies the most competent person under them gets promoted to their cast/subtype, and then a total newb footsoldier is made out of the crystal shards left behind from the dead guy, although they can make more crystal from themselves in a pinch, if something would prevent them from recovering the remains.

Somewhere along the line I forgot about TED themes and started on the SWLIHN. Sorry.
Anesidora
- Combat oriented demons. She doesn't seem the type to have a lot of combat potential herself, but she's Lelouch's brilliance distilled and given form. That means she'll be very good at commanding, and so making some combat demons would be idea.
-- Anesidoran Anuhles: We're expanding the Dark Green Fangs, and while our Anuhles actually seem to have better stats than normal Anuhles (Seyrun apparently recruited from the best) they aren't necessarily as good without as around to lead them as they could be. We could create officers who are decent at War and general operational planning, and thus can lead the other Anuhles on field missions and whatnot. They'd probably be a bit more disciplined, too.
-- Footsoldier: It might be good to make a general footsoldier type demon. Something strong, fast, and powerful. Blood Apes are great for the role, but they are rather bloodthirsty and there can be issues having large numbers of them summoned in Creation. Something similar to the Baidak (The Empty Pawns) might be good as well. Regardless, having demon soldiers that are intrinsically loyal to us would be good.
- Crafters. Anesidora's Urge includes making new weapons. Having assistants would be quite helpful with that, especially if she's got any larger projects going on.
- Advisers. Not necessarily for Lelouch, as he's got Anesidora herself, but these might be send into the field of battle to advise officers in the army or help with civil planning.
Something eternally spinning. Like a truly random number generator but with motions. Alternatively, a storm inside a crystal sphere- Dangit, and back to the SWLIHN.

:oops:I can't help it, her aesthetics are cool...
 
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Sinny would be great with having glasswork spiders in pretty colors. Glasswork Anules!
 
she should totally rip off Jyggalag instead!
Except Anesidora was born of Oramus, and Jyggalag is the Daedric Prince of Order.

Instead, I suggest a mutable soldier-spirit that changes form, equipment and style based on the Derangement it currently embodies, able to shift between various lunacies to become a new threat. Obsession could create a rigid soldier of clockwork precision with fine rapiers and needles, while Amnesia arms a wispy cloud with razors that let it cut away the target's recent memories of the battle. Paranoia could let the deva shapechange into what his opponent fears most, while giddy mania could turn it into a multi-limbed speedster that throws itself into enemy formations to strike at as many targets as possible before its brief life burns out. Depression supplies it with a fantastically sturdy, but slow, body perfect for area defense or wall-breaking.
 
Except Anesidora was born of Oramus, and Jyggalag is the Daedric Prince of Order.

Instead, I suggest a mutable soldier-spirit that changes form, equipment and style based on the Derangement it currently embodies, able to shift between various lunacies to become a new threat. Obsession could create a rigid soldier of clockwork precision with fine rapiers and needles, while Amnesia arms a wispy cloud with razors that let it cut away the target's recent memories of the battle. Paranoia could let the deva shapechange into what his opponent fears most, while giddy mania could turn it into a multi-limbed speedster that throws itself into enemy formations to strike at as many targets as possible before its brief life burns out. Depression supplies it with a fantastically sturdy, but slow, body perfect for area defense or wall-breaking.
I got the names mixed up YOU SAW NOTHING. >->
 
I think the idea of advisor demons is useful since for a guy about to make an empire our bureaucracy and socialize are only 2 dot each, we might need to think about raising those if we are going to actually make an empire after we oust Brittania.
 
I still think the "order" theme doesn't fit. Sinnihtáre is quiet grace and poise, dignity and noblesse oblige. Jyggalag is mindless obedience, rote behavior and steady progression. He fits more for SWLiHN or even Autocthon.

I like Enjou's idea of spy-consorts. Lemme just take a quick shot here... (Patterned after Aleph's writeups for Keris)

Gardelivs, the Midnight Geishas
Devas of the First Circle
Progeny of The Eternal Night of Grace

The Gardelivs are as demure as they are beautiful, following after their creator in their sense of quiet dignity and graceful service. They appear as girls just past the cusp of womanhood, with pale faces to enhance their features. A Gardeliv will seek to dress itself ornately, though not gaudily, and will happily wear gifted clothing from their current patron. Careful questioning will reveal that these women cannot speak ill of anyone, even bitter enemies, as a Gardeliv exists to uncover secrets through flattery and ingratiation. An unwary nobleman will find himself put at-ease by the spirit's delicate tones and careful appreciation of his wit, only to invite a spy into his midst. Gardelivs, when not under direction from Sinnihtáre, will set out on their own to impress their way into local courts and amass knowledge for the great contests between their kind where they compete to reveal the most damaging secrets.

Gardelivs take little interest in life outside courtly walls or noble halls. The day-to-day mundanity of working life is nearly useless in their lady's schemes and of low-value in their contests. Still, if there are no places where social maneuvering is the central aspect of life, they will be content to insert themselves as advisers to local politicians, or companions to union bosses. Wherever they end up, a Gardeliv's actions only benefit their hosts to the extent necessary to become trusted. They only rarely have any real investment in the organizations they infiltrate, though a few have noticed real improvement after entrusting duties to the pretty new girl.

Masters of socialization, the Gardelivs are born with an innate skill at reading faces and judging emotions, and are exceptionally gifted learners when it comes to social strategems such as dinnertime conversation, tea-ceremonies, and other regimented social behavior. They are similarly skilled at improvisational methods such as flattery, but they will always attempt to construct a more organized system in order to manipulate it. If discovered or faced with violence, a Gardeliv will do its utmost to flee. The Midnight Geishas dislike violence and will only fight if they are personally threatened, at which point the Gardeliv can usually call for aid from one of the many courtiers she will have tempted or blackmailed into helping her. Gardelivs try to avoid physical seduction and abstain from sex in general; they find such methods to be brash and uncivilized, and will skillfully turn down advances from amorous hosts, leading their thoughts to more cerebral pursuits.

Gardelivs reproduce themselves at their contests by writing the most heinous and dangerous secrets onto strips of paper and burning them in a cauldron. The smoke from the paper ascends and coalesces into a new Gardeliv, which cloaks itself in a beautiful black garment sewn together from the soot and ink. They gain limit whenever they are forced to reveal a secret to someone other than their lieges or fellow Gardelivs. Sometimes, when an angry noble ejects one of his courtiers for incompetence, a Gardeliv will appear nearby and begin the delicate maneuvering to earn his favor.
 
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I still think the "order" theme doesn't fit. Sinnihtáre is quiet grace and poise, dignity and noblesse oblige. Jyggalag is mindless obedience, rote behavior and steady progression. He fits more for SWLiHN or even Autocthon.

I like Enjou's idea of spy-consorts. Lemme just take a quick shot here... (Patterned after Aleph's writeups for Keris)

Gardelivs, the Midnight Geishas
Devas of the First Circle
Progeny of The Eternal Night of Grace

The Gardelivs are as demure as they are beautiful, following after their creator in their sense of quiet dignity and graceful service. They appear as girls just past the cusp of womanhood, with pale faces to enhance their features. A Gardeliv will seek to dress itself ornately, though not gaudily, and will happily wear gifted clothing from their current patron. Careful questioning will reveal that these women cannot speak ill of anyone, even bitter enemies, as a Gardeliv exists to uncover secrets through flattery and ingratiation. An unwary nobleman will find himself put at-ease by the spirit's delicate tones and careful appreciation of his wit, only to invite a spy into his midst. Gardelivs, when not under direction from Sinnihtáre, will set out on their own to impress their way into local courts and amass knowledge for the great contests between their kind where they compete to reveal the most damaging secrets.

Gardelivs take little interest in life outside courtly walls or noble halls. The day-to-day mundanity of working life is nearly useless in their lady's schemes and of low-value in their contests. Still, if there are no places where social maneuvering is the central aspect of life, they will be content to insert themselves as advisers to local politicians, or companions to union bosses. Wherever they end up, a Gardeliv's actions only benefit their hosts to the extent necessary to become trusted. They only rarely have any real investment in the organizations they infiltrate, though a few have noticed real improvement after entrusting duties to the pretty new girl.

Masters of socialization, the Gardelivs are born with an innate skill at reading faces and judging emotions, and are exceptionally gifted learners when it comes to social strategems such as dinnertime conversation, tea-ceremonies, and other regimented social behavior. They are similarly skilled at improvisational methods such as flattery, but they will always attempt to construct a more organized system in order to manipulate it. If discovered or faced with violence, a Gardeliv will do its utmost to flee. The Midnight Geishas abhor violence and will only fight if their secrets depend on it, at which point the Gardeliv can usually call for aid from one of the many courtiers she will have tempted or blackmailed into helping her. Gardelivs try to avoid physical seduction and abstain from sex in general; they find such methods to be brash and uncivilized, and will skillfully turn down advances from amorous hosts, leading their thoughts to more cerebral pursuits.

Gardelivs reproduce themselves at their contests by writing the most heinous and dangerous secrets onto strips of paper and burning them in a cauldron. The smoke from the paper ascends and coalesces into a new Gardeliv, which cloaks itself in a beautiful black garment sewn together from the soot and ink. They gain limit whenever they are forced to reveal a secret to someone other than their lieges or fellow Gardelivs. Sometimes, when an angry noble ejects one of his courtiers for incompetence, a Gardeliv will appear nearby and begin the delicate maneuvering to earn his favor.

That's pretty spot on with what I had in mind for the most part. The only things I'd change/add are...

1. It would probably be good to have something musical about them. Sinnihtáre's urge is to create relaxing moods and environments through music, so each one would probably have some talent for music. That could just be noted in their Abilities, though, I suppose.

2. Abstaining from sex is probably not something they'd do. They're supposed to be consorts, sometimes given out as rewards to loyal followers (even if they're also Sinnihtáre's spies and will relay information to her, but it's Sinnihtáre's nature to deceive even her allies if she thinks its necessary), and it would be weird if they were abstinent. It would be more likely they would have sex only with their current patron and only in moderation. (Sinnihtáre is among other things Lelouch's capacity for indulgence given form, but Lelouch does not indulge in excess and neither does she) Pillow talk is a very good way to both further ingratiate themselves to their hosts as well as a time in which their hosts might spill secrets, but that's more likely to work if they're acting as a lover to be seduced rather than a plaything to be taken whenever.
 
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1. It would probably be good to have something musical about them.
Geishas are entertainers par excellence. I didn't explicitly state it, but I left a few things out because if I gave them a comprehensive writeup it'd be massive. Just look at traditional geishas IRL and you'll see the sorts of things they'll do. Dances, music, ceremonies, partnership, counseling, etc. They exist to bring peace and relaxation to overworked people of importance, all while gathering secrets in the process.

2. Abstaining from sex is probably not something they'd do.
I did this because Neomah are already demon whores, and RL geisha (who I modeled these after) are explicitly not sex workers. Pillow talk without sex is a thing; you can find statements of RL prostitutes and they'll talk about how a large portion of their clients don't actually come to them for sex, but just for someone to talk to about their problems. Also, there's a general tendency when creating female characters to make them... somewhat libertine when it comes to sexuality. I decided to go the opposite way with this.
 
I think it makes an interesting twist that the are spies and seduces who consider actually having sex with there targets distasteful.
 
I did this because Neomah are already demon whores, and RL geisha (who I modeled these after) are explicitly not sex workers. Pillow talk without sex is a thing; you can find statements of RL prostitutes and they'll talk about how a large portion of their clients don't actually come to them for sex, but just for someone to talk to about their problems. Also, there's a general tendency when creating female characters to make them... somewhat libertine when it comes to sexuality. I decided to go the opposite way with this.
I think the idea was less that they should have sex be a defining thing, but that a complete ban on their having sex doesn't fit very well. I'd personally just strip out that bit entirely. No qualifiers, if they find you interesting enough to fuck, they might, but they don't particularly seek lovemaking any more than the typical social heavy demon.

Its not like most demons have a writeup about their views on copulation...
 
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I think the idea was less that they should have sex be a defining thing, but that a complete ban on their having sex doesn't fit very well. I'd personally just strip out that bit entirely. No qualifiers, if they find you interesting enough to fuck, they might, but they don't particularly seek lovemaking any more than the typical social heavy demon.

Its not like most demons have a writeup about their views on copulation...
Then they might as well just be a completely human group of ninja-courtiers. If they're going to be the same as all the other demons, then why not just summon one of those instead?

I, for one, like this idiosyncrasy, because it's something novel (and, TED charm created as she may be, Lelouch is still Oramus's champion).
 
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I think the idea was less that they should have sex be a defining thing, but that a complete ban on their having sex doesn't fit very well. I'd personally just strip out that bit entirely. No qualifiers, if they find you interesting enough to fuck, they might, but they don't particularly seek lovemaking any more than the typical social heavy demon.

all that the write up says about there stance on sex is that they prefer not to do it on the job. There not asexual, they just consider actually sleeping with your mark to be in bad taste. Maybe it could be common for them to be closet romantics? or have a marked predisposition to liking love stories.
 
Geishas are entertainers par excellence. I didn't explicitly state it, but I left a few things out because if I gave them a comprehensive writeup it'd be massive. Just look at traditional geishas IRL and you'll see the sorts of things they'll do. Dances, music, ceremonies, partnership, counseling, etc. They exist to bring peace and relaxation to overworked people of importance, all while gathering secrets in the process.

Like I said, it could just be noted in their Abilities, I just wanted to make sure the ability is there due to Sinnihtáre's themes.

I did this because Neomah are already demon whores, and RL geisha (who I modeled these after) are explicitly not sex workers. Pillow talk without sex is a thing; you can find statements of RL prostitutes and they'll talk about how a large portion of their clients don't actually come to them for sex, but just for someone to talk to about their problems. Also, there's a general tendency when creating female characters to make them... somewhat libertine when it comes to sexuality. I decided to go the opposite way with this.

1. Neomah are demon whores, yes, though not even remotely the only kind that exists, rather just the most well known due to being defined in the core book. I'm not saying make these devas whores, though. If sex is involved I'd say it'd more likely be as their patron's lover, and it would probably be exclusive. But equally they could be handmaidens to a woman and the relationship could be entirely platonic.

2. Modern geisha's don't sell sex, but that's because modern geisha's are following an ancient tradition and because prostitution was made illegal. Back in the day some geisha's were also sex workers, just of a significantly higher class.

3. Pillow talk without sex isn't going to work for long if they're trying to get very close to a male patron - this is an attractive woman who is planting herself into someone's court, aiming to get close to them. If pillow talk starts becoming a thing in the relationship, it's inevitable that the other party is going to want sex and continued rejection is just going to cause problems. Removing them being able to have sex unless the other party is forcing the issue is pretty much saying that they'd either have to quit their position (thus reducing their effectiveness as spies) or essentially making a demon that's essentially going to get raped every now and then in order to perform her role as a spy.

Veekie has the right of it I think - removing the relevant bit and not having sex as a defining characteristic one way or another is probably the best way to go about it. With no mention and being descended from Sinnihtáre, it could easily be assumed that they aren't big into debauchery. (and not giving them a Seduction specialty would also help there) Sex can be involved without it being a major focus.

Then they might as well just be a completely human group of ninja-courtiers. If they're going to be the same as all the other demons, then why not just summon one of those instead?

I, for one, like this idiosyncrasy, because it's something novel (and, TED charm created as she may be, Lelouch is still Oramus's champion).

Well, Lelouch would summon them over other demons for the sole reason that they'd be descended from him, and that they pretty much only tell the secrets they've gathered to him, Sinnihtáre, and eachother. There's loyalty there he just couldn't get from regular demons. Also the matter that devas descended from him couldn't be bound by Sorcery or thaumaturgy without his express permission.

Having idiosyncrasies is fine - pretty much all demons do - but ones that are potentially crippling to the demon's intended function isn't something you should design into one. There are probably a number of demon species that eschew sex, but that probably doesn't do much if anything to impede their function.

Also, these devas are not ninjas at all. They have no combat capabilities and actually wouldn't fight, and they don't necessarily have any significant stealth skills either.

all that the write up says about there stance on sex is that they prefer not to do it on the job. There not asexual, they just consider actually sleeping with your mark to be in bad taste. Maybe it could be common for them to be closet romantics? or have a marked predisposition to liking love stories.

"and abstain from sex in general;" is pretty clear that they don't like to have sex.


Perhaps a more thematically appropriate idiosyncrasy, both for being a geisha and being related to a Ebon Dragon themed deva, might relate to marriage. Geishas have to retire when they marry. So, maybe instead if their patron asks them to marry them they either flee the household at the earliest opportunity, or if they say yes they will disappear on the day after the marriage is consummated at sunrise with a rueful smile on their face, leaving behind a demon-blooded child as the only proof of their union.
 
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