Alexander89
Pet the pretty kitty? Y/N
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- Italy
Yes. The one that let you grow teeth everywhere
Green Sun, Black Shadows (CG/Exalted)
- Thread starter Alexander89
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- Crossover
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- his hidden lair
Alright, props @Enjou, that was fantastic. I'm incredibly happy I was wrong with this.
Given how Oramus' charm set seems heavily themed about the wyld and asserting the primacy of paradox over Raksha, how worthwhile would it be for Lelouch to try and enter the Wyld and recruit the services of some Raksha? It gives us assets that aren't tied directly to Malfeas or the Black Knights and gives us a means to actively war with the Lunars if they retreat into the wyld. I have no idea how useful or numerous the Raksha are and what use they could be of in creation. The other thing I can see Lelouch possibly doing is trying to incite a lesser version of the Balorian Crusade on the North American continent to try and help break Brittania and giving Zero and the Black Knights an excuse to play big damn hero and undermine a lot of opposition they might otherwise have on the North American continent. I know playing with the Raksha would be a dangerous game, but if anyone's capable of manipulating them for his own ends it would probably be Lelouch.
Given how Oramus' charm set seems heavily themed about the wyld and asserting the primacy of paradox over Raksha, how worthwhile would it be for Lelouch to try and enter the Wyld and recruit the services of some Raksha? It gives us assets that aren't tied directly to Malfeas or the Black Knights and gives us a means to actively war with the Lunars if they retreat into the wyld. I have no idea how useful or numerous the Raksha are and what use they could be of in creation. The other thing I can see Lelouch possibly doing is trying to incite a lesser version of the Balorian Crusade on the North American continent to try and help break Brittania and giving Zero and the Black Knights an excuse to play big damn hero and undermine a lot of opposition they might otherwise have on the North American continent. I know playing with the Raksha would be a dangerous game, but if anyone's capable of manipulating them for his own ends it would probably be Lelouch.
Yep!
Imagine a fusion of the overachieving mother that keeps driving you to take X extra classes, to compete and excel...with the cranky old man who's 10,000 years out of date but doesn't see why that should be relevant to him(and with his skills, it isn't).
Not worthwhile at all. The Raksha hate the Yozis for breaking the Infinite Perfection of the Wyld and imposing things like reality and linear time.
The only way we're getting Raksha minions is if we mind-control them or seize their Heart grace or something. They'd never willingly work for us.
Yeah, Oramus doesn't have any control over the Raksha or anything, he's just better at what they do than they are. He's probably the Yozi they're most frightened by, if anything. If the Raksha learn about Lelouch they'll most likely try to kill him before he really comes into his power.
lolI get the feeling that as doctor he's good...as a politician? Not so much. For him I recoded making a team with an Infernal who is good at long-term plans.
Pretty much. He's an impressive doctor, and he'd be wonderful as the head of a research team, but his low conviction means he folds when he shouldn't, he has problems with properly using his (otherwise quite good) skills.
Ah, yeah, probably. I'm trying to refrain from going too far from the parameters given for chargen, but as long as it's realistic Alex doesn't mind. I'll just blame it on the XP she got during her time as a heroic mortal. Done.
Basically SWLiHN thinks the idea of making a new empire that venerates the Yozis is a fantastic idea - it's the proper order of things for mortals to worship them, after all. That said, look at our Coven...
- Lelouch, the man in charge. Fiend Champion of Oramus, the Yozi whose themes include madness, paradox, and the Wyld.
- Milly, Scourge Champion of Hegra, whose themes involve chaos, madness, and tearing down the establishment. And boy does Milly meet those themes! In contact with Lelouch daily.
- Akito, Slayer Champion of Isidoros, who has become a hedonist blood-knight who doesn't seem to give a fuck about things like how the government is structured.
- Rakshata, Defiler Champion of Cytherea, a mad scientist who cares only that she gets to invent stuff and that medicine will get a proper focus.
- Kaguya, Malefactor Champion of Szoreny. Possibly the only influence of sanity here, and while her Urge is to untie the Japanese under one culture (good) said culture is to be enlightened (worrying in that it sounds like free thinking), and she's obviously in love with Lelouch so she'll likely be fine with what he wants so long as it's not blatantly against her own ideals.
...and you can see why she might be a tad worried any empire they build will end up being unstable and not sufficiently hierarchical. As such, it's understandable she would want to get some influence in how the new empire will be structured, and sending a Champion Lelouch is likely to listen to in order to do just that is a sensible way to do it.
Karin is someone Lelouch's mother knew and he's met before, so she'll stand out in his mind, and she's got similar ideas to his. She'll likely help with establishing a new system of nobility that is similar to Britannia's but also different in that the meritocratic aspects will be further emphasized, making it significantly more likely that nobles can actually lose their positions if they show themselves to be unworthy. Further, she'll probably work at vetting candidates for nobility. Lelouch would probably go with that given he doesn't have anything against the idea of nobility, so long as it's practiced in a way that ensures nobles are actually noble.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
To repost an analogy I saw somewhere earlier on this thread, if the Raksha are all playing their parts as heroes of the Wyld, or whatever they feel like doing that week, then Oramus is the Big Bad, the Eldritch Abomination. He's the dragon who eats their princesses and burns down their villages.
Learning about Lelouch would be like finding out about The Dragon having a baby. Lots of panicky panicking because now there are two of them, and efforts to get rid of him before they suddenly can't anymore.
Hyacinthium
Writing about sad cannibals as we speak.
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- Bedroom
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- He/Him
All these characters, so much plot threads, hnnnnnng! I'd be tempted to try to make my own if not for being stuck on my kindle. And a cannibal, a yandere (even if it's yuno who I loathe argh), and something to do with music, all of those have been made already. The only thing left would be something to do with nature/plants.
Yes, they're relevant, but I don't expect Alexander will be managing all of them all the time. He'll probably just periodically update their growth, and may even ask for assistance with that from their creators for some of them.
Some characters have greater strength of personality and entertainment value will show up more in Lelouch's view than others, especially if their Urges and/or Motivations are relevant. Just as an example using two my latest two Infernals, Karin will show up with greater frequency than Gabriel, and thus require more frequent updating. Gabriel will be working mostly inside Britannia, and the effects of his actions won't have any immediately obvious effects, so he doesn't need frequent updates.
Of course, managing the various plotlines is also a thing he'll have to do. He might need some charts and graphs.
SirLagginton
Shadow Cabal Caerbannog Bun-Bun
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- Arrrghhh
Excel Spreadsheet Quest when
Not all of them are relevant, but it's fun. It also saves Alexander some of the work of having to come up with characters himself, and probably provides ton of Omake fodder for us by having these guys bounce off each other, handle their own plans, and create tons of shenanigans. (I myself am positively thrilled that Tollenmach and Rodrigo have even the flimsiest reasons to be in contact).
As an aside, I just found Revlid's own variant She Who Lives In Her Name charmset. On one hand, I find these charms a lot more flavorful and cooler than SWLIHN's canon charms; you've got some neat planning charms, lots of crazy-fun mimetic stuff, and some edits/rewardings to the canon charm trees that are just generally make them more interesting and SWLIHN-like. Unfortunately, I'm don't think NSMS's Slayer can't be built under this charmset, as Principle-Invoking Onslaught doesn't exist the way Akio uses it. Still, I'd like to see some of these charms used.
IIRC we're using the canon SWLiHN as a base, then tacking on some of Revlid's stuff where desired.
meianmaru
The Devourer of Fiction
I'm in a hurry, so this will be short. Nice GSP, but one thing could be wrong:
Wasn't his true name a secret for everyone even in Malfeas, except for the Yozis, some Unquestionables and his own Coven?
Speaking broadly that is. Individual rakshas vary a great deal. Just as there are death cult humans, there are Raksha utterly in awe of Oramus's sheer style and would love to be his bitch.
Perhaps in the same way humans might worship Cthulhu. "At least I'll be eaten last!"
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
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- They/Them/It
I think Cthulhu worshippers seek to be eaten first.
They're...actually likely to be quite enthusiastic, knowing Raksha.
Because, unlike Autochton, Gaia or SWLIHN who calcifies them and ends the dream, Oramus plays their games. He simply does it better and more fabulously than they do.
They love him and hate him and fear him and want to be like him.
I think you're making Oramus too much of a "brozi" towards the Raksha. Both groups hated the other, because they would always undo each others' work. So Oramus worked with the others to build Creation and that was that.
The Raksha hate the Yozis. They want the titans to never escape, because if they do they'll have lost any chance at restoring pure chaos.
Not at all. The vast majority will hate the Primordials as a whole, but minorities would find appeal even in the opposition to their existence.
Raksha are hardly a monolithic block. Each of them are their own narrativr bloc, and would hate each other just as much. The difference is more or less just scale.It'd be harder to find Akuma Sidereals than crazier than usual Raksha who are fascinated like moths to flames...and since the Wyld is infinite, that says a lot.
Now if you go to the big and ancient Unshaped you'd find the trends set in a bit harder on the pure basis that rakshas fool enough would be long dead, converted to god/demon or otherwise enslaved
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frozenchicken
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What about Sidereals specifically makes them resistant to being Akuma?
I considered them being in the same city, but it's a base premise of Rodrigo's character that the city he was in became a shadowland after a large massacre, which is no small setting feature.