Green Sun, Black Shadows (CG/Exalted)

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crunch question, does the fact that we don't need to bind her make her easier to summon? I mean her greater self likes the cut of our jib, and we can probably pay her quite well.

Nope. Summoning a 3º Circle requires* Adamant circle sorcery, regardless of if you try to bound her or not.

*(Unless you find some way to exploit their escape clauses, that is)
 
huh, well in that case if we need a fortress designed we can probably just visit her in hell. assuming we survey the site beforehand it would only be a 10 day delay.
 
crunch question, does the fact that we don't need to bind her make her easier to summon? I mean her greater self likes the cut of our jib, and we can probably pay her quite well.
Infernal summoning is different than Solar summoning. It's faster and more versatile since we can summon TCDs (if we learn to) every month rather than waiting for Calibration, but we actually can't bind them.

If we plan on summoning demons of the second-circle or higher, it would be best to speak with them first and arrange it so that we're not taking them from important business. We're Peers, not masters.
 
I imagine that we'll acquire summoning before pantheon heresy. It's an incredible tool and we can use it to boost our forces trivially.

Er, no. Saphire circle sorcery requires E4. We will have a few souls by then. We will learn it more or less at the same time that our souls reach maturity. (Aka, at the same time that we learn Titanic Heart Overweening)
 
Distorted Reflection
Cost: —; Mins: Essence 2; Type: Permanent
Keywords: None
Duration: Permanent
Prerequisite Charms: Written Upon the Stone
The Mountain and the Beast Upon It defines himself by his flock much as they define themselves by him. If the Inferal's followers know the Infernal by a different name, the Infernal can consider that name to be one of his true names. This name cannot be the name of another. This charm may be repurchased (Essence) times, with a new name each time.

Would this be an acceptable Mardukth charm @Alexander89?
 
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Infernal summoning is different than Solar summoning. It's faster and more versatile since we can summon TCDs (if we learn to) every month rather than waiting for Calibration, but we actually can't bind them.

If we plan on summoning demons of the second-circle or higher, it would be best to speak with them first and arrange it so that we're not taking them from important business. We're Peers, not masters.
Don't even need to take the trip to Malfeas. Thats what 1CD messengers are for.

Though of the escape conditions...I like Ligier's
 
Distorted Reflection
Cost: —; Mins: Essence 2; Type: Permanent
Keywords: None
Duration: Permanent
Prerequisite Charms: Written Upon the Stone
The Mountain and the Beast Upon It defines himself by his flock much as they define themselves by him. If the Inferal's followers know the Inferal by a different name, the Infernal can consider that name to be one of his true names. This name cannot be the name of another. This charm may be repurchased (Essence) times, with a new name each time.

Would this be an acceptable Mardukth charm @Alexander89?

I think that explicitly goes around the restriction of the Excellency, so wouldn't work. It might work if it's a nickname or a title, but not as a completely different identity.
 
I think that explicitly goes around the restriction of the Excellency, so wouldn't work. It might work if it's a nickname or a title, but not as a completely different identity.
What about:
Distorted Reflection
Cost: —; Mins: Essence 2; Type: Permanent
Keywords: None
Duration: Permanent
Prerequisite Charms: Written Upon the Stone
The Mountain and the Beast Upon It defines himself by his flock much as they define themselves by him. If the Inferal's followers know the Infernal by a different name, the Infernal can consider that name to be his true name. All other names are now considered to be fake names.
 
Emerald circle only requires E3 and lets us summon 1CDs every night.

Of course, but the post i had quoted before was:

If we plan on summoning demons of the second-circle or higher, it would be best to speak with them first and arrange it so that we're not taking them from important business. We're Peers, not masters.

This is talking about 2º Circles, not 1CD. First circles are certainly not our equals.
 
Invited by a Queen or a Prince? Gee, i wonder where we could find one of those.

(I always thought that the escape clauses where too explotable)
Yet, sometimes as it rises or sets, the solar disc inexplicably flashes green and Ligier is briefly drawn to the side of a remarkable mortal without the call of sorcery.
Only a smith performing the masterstrokes of a perfect work of brass, a mortal prince leading his army against Exalted foes, or a blindingly beautiful queen seizing control of a court while unwed can catch his attention thus.
In such cases, the Green Sun has little time before the onset of day or darkness sends him back to Malfeas

Ligier showing up matches certain Solar Exaltation conditions.
 
How is the tally going?

I didn't really expect to say the vote so divided, i thought Malfeas would be more popular.

I mean, after we learn Sun-Heart Furnace Soul, we can have a mini-Ligier in our soul. Who can resist that?
 
right, the ebon dragon created the most perfect, and virtuous creature he could to better define himself opposition, and he probably took inspiration from the greatest of his kin.
 
thats not to unsurprising since he has a fair number of similarities with the unconquered sun. I would be very unsurprised if the original concept that went into invictus Sol's creation was something along the lines of "like malfeas , but not a dick".
Considering Malfeas didn't even exist back then (he was still Theion), that's literally impossible.
 
That would just lock us into a different name. Maybe make it a committed charm with a mote cost so that it can be deactivated to recover your given name?
This way we can set our name as Zero, then when we actually reveal our true name to the masses (after liberating Japan), we will no longer be hiding under layers of false identities.
 
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