Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Not an issue.
We're going back to Last Station, which is a Dragon Nest; every 15 minutes we spend there, we regenerate 1m of Essence, which comes to 4m of Essence/ hour.

If it takes the wizards 2 hours to talk to Shaw and for McCoy to show up, we regen 8m.
Plus the Essence Jewel we borrowed refills itself at the same rate, I think.
Historically when we huddle up to do a few hours of prep in a crisis we get attacked or something explodes in our territory. Maybe it'll be fine but speeding things up would be good. RtF just keeps going up in priority; times right we could have it go off 12 hours after our daily regen and split our time between essence tops offs in half.




Improving Usum's sword form seems more on-brand for Molly. There are provisions for crafting splendors from Exalt's soul, which Usum is a part of, so doing upgrades to his sword form should be doable and thematic.
I think the best improvement we could get is a simple reached weapon splendor if we also pick up RtF at the same time.

Infernals are the fastest exalts in ExWoD; even a solar built specifically for speed purposes can't match them without a vehicle, even then it's a bit spotty.

A reach splendor and RtF would let us basically float out of arms length of melee monsters and carve them to pieces because RtF lets you spend essence to turn sprinting into a reflexive action.


We don't need to make ourselves into a McGuffin, just carry the thing around.
 
Historically when we huddle up to do a few hours of prep in a crisis we get attacked or something explodes in our territory. Maybe it'll be fine but speeding things up would be good. RtF just keeps going up in priority; times right we could have it go off 12 hours after our daily regen and split our time between essence tops offs in half.





I think the best improvement we could get is a simple reached weapon splendor if we also pick up RtF at the same time.

Infernals are the fastest exalts in ExWoD; even a solar built specifically for speed purposes can't match them without a vehicle, even then it's a bit spotty.

A reach splendor and RtF would let us basically float out of arms length of melee monsters and carve them to pieces because RtF lets you spend essence to turn sprinting into a reflexive action.


We don't need to make ourselves into a McGuffin, just carry the thing around.
Huh didn't know that don't solars have a literal become lightspeed charm?
 
Arc 14 Post 22: Feeding Fear
Feeding Fear

18th of February 2007 A.D.

"You're dead, do you know that?" These are the first words Donald Morgan says to Horace Shaw, indeed the first ones he hears upon recovering his senses. "Now the only question is are you going to go down like a stuck pig squealing or if you're going to go down like a man?" There's something about the cadence of his voice, not quite hypnotic, it's too harsh for that, but it matches the words the way sheet music matches lyrics, it makes you want to believe him. Right now this isn't a man fucking around.

"Kill me like one of the kids you go after are you?" The warlock laughs, blood trickling at the corner of his mouth. "On her word? You wouldn't dare Donny-Boy. More than your cloak's worth and that cloak's all you have, all you are."

The circle around him, carved with your sword, but marked in silver dust and wizard's magic sparks. The pentagram writ soft onyx dust seems to grow darker by contrast. Not a single wisp of power leaves his bound hands. The chain at his neck had long since been removed.

"Must you?" Lady M sighs. "Is it not enough to be wicked without being gouache?"

"We have the poor bugger you leashed you know, came in gentle as a lamb," Morgan continues. "His mind's no worse than it was this morning."

And thank God for that, you think quietly.

Regained 1 Willpower -> Now at 6/9 (Freed Cyril)

"Oh dear... is that your proof. Poor Cyril is quite mad you see. Can't believe a word he says, schizoid delusions, rather sad really."

"Uhm Molly, you realize you can just drug him and then I can mind screw him," Isabela turns her head to whisper in your ear. "I'm not Raith, but I don't have to be. A wizard with no tools, with no magic, it's just a regular m... man."

"I don't think that's what they're going for here..."

"We found the other thing in the basement too. Wanna talk about that? What's the matter aren't you proud of your work?" Morgan taunts as the warlock goes white as a sheet. "We could throw you in? Think it'll treat you right."

"You don't know what you're speaking of..."

"Fucks' sake. Every last one of you sons of bitches think you've discovered fire all over again. If you would just be rid of these Laws you'd be greater than Dee, greater than fucking Merlin. Funny how you fall back to monsters in the basement whispering lies and curses while you pretend to be holding the whip."

"You... you don't know anything?" Shaw laughs again and he seems to be finding his balance. Maybe it's time to kick the chair out from under him.

What was the thing in the basement I walked through? you ask looking down at the boots that had slogged through that water.

Lost 1 Essence -> Now at 8/18

Parasite/Living spell/Demon-hybrid A melange of complex images assaults your sense: Shaw pushing bound people into the wall as it flowed over them, inscribing itself under their skin, though mind and soul, consuming their knowledge of magic, synthesizing, improving, evolving.

"You know..." you rise from your seat. "I don't think the Warden's giving you enough credit. Most people as dumb as you just go with sacrificing people for power. Mind eating demon mold is a new one. Build your own abomination, right? What did you name it? I'm betting it isn't something short and snappy like Blackly."

"Limos... Famine," the man in the chair proclaims. "You don't understand, it's the only way to save anything, anything at all."

"So tell us then." the illusionist Nzola speaks up in a deep soothing voice. "You are doomed and the creature will burn, but whatever you know need not die with you."

"The fuck do you..." He grits his teeth. "I wanted to save something of the world for me. If I die I hope He kills you all. I hope he chews slow. Black fire will rise from the askes of the old world and the truth of the heavens will be writ for the strong, only for the strong. You'll wish Limos had taken you gently let your thoughts sprout."

"Do you have all that Clippy?" you subvocalize. As clever as wizards doubtles are, most of them still haven't quite internalized the implications of technology.

Recovered 3 Essence -> Now at 11/18 (Urge+Time in Dragon's Nest)

What does Molly think you should do next?

[] You have a warlock and a confession of conspiracy as well as Black Magic, time to go to the Hidden Halls and see how the traitors take it

[] Wait for McCoy. Harry is sure he'll show up soon

[] Ask more questions of Shaw even if it might be awkward explaining how you know the answers
-[] Write in

[] Write in


OOC: Rolls were pretty low, thankfully so were his.
 
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Huh didn't know that don't solars have a literal become lightspeed charm?

I assume that he means in terms of just base movement speed not including teleportation or charms that say "I was there all along". Because if those are counted there are loads of infinite speed charms.
At base speed Solars are as fast or Faster only at long distance or by magical means are Infernals faster.
Lightning Speed (•••)
The Solar moves with the speed of darting sun-beams, able to flash from place to place almost faster than the eye can follow.
System: The Solar's movement speed is permanently tripled, and she doubles the result of all Initiative rolls. By reflexively spending 1 Essence on her turn, she can instantly flash to any location within (Essence x 100) yards. This is super-fast movement, not teleportation: the Solar has to actually be able to reach the place she wants to go.
Supernal Effect: The Solar moves with the speed and freedom of light itself; there's nothing faster. By spending 1 Essence, she may release her god-speed for the rest of the scene; each turn, she gains one free 100-yard reflexive quickstep, as though she were using Lightning Speed at no cost. Furthermore, her movement speed is permanently quintupled by Lightning Speed rather than tripled.
 
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So how do we plan to do this after essence regen of course? Because there is no way said council members go fucking peacefully and how do we justify cleansing the mind fucked ones or nemesis possessed?
 
So how do we plan to do this after essence regen of course? Because there is no way said council members go fucking peacefully and how do we justify cleansing the mind fucked ones or nemesis possessed?
Well if we wait for essence Regen there is a good chance that McCoy shows up. Anyone we want to call up on the phone well waiting?
I hope so too.



More time for us to make him choke that way. :V
Trapped in a monsters mouth actives CCC. Does Morgan have any friends that we can talk to?

Guessing that Horace Shaw doesn't count as a COD? Really shame that we don't have Barren Waste Infection sacrificing a supernatural non-COD like him counts as much as 5 normal sacrifices. Halfway to manifesting our kingdom on earth.
 
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Well if we wait for essence Regen there is a good chance that McCoy shows up. Anyone we want to call up on the phone well waiting?

Trapped in a monsters mouth actives CCC. Does Morgan have any friends that we can talk to?

Guessing that Horace Shaw doesn't count as a COD? Really shame that we don't have Barren Waste Infection sacrificing a supernatural non-COD like him counts as much as 5 normal sacrifices. Halfway to manifesting our kingdom on earth.
I mean no plan still likely has various traitors getting away or killed. A lot of these people are mind ficked and we want to fix that. Are we just gonna let these people get executed or cause damages before being put down? Do we have a plan?
 
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This man is rather pathetic, isn't he?

I think we should wait for essence regen and the black staff to show up before we kick the doors down
 
Typical motivations, typical words. The question is whether there is something deeper behind the rhetoric or these are the usual Cthulhu games.
 
Huh didn't know that don't solars have a literal become lightspeed charm?
Not that I see. There's a speed boost charm, but it's worse than WBS. They have some vehicle/steed charms, but they all work on the details of the vehicle. If the solar built a wonder car or something then they could do it, but it would have to be really bullshit and we could match that ourselves. Crafting is one of those things that isn't too horribly biased in their favor relative to other solaroids.
At base speed Solars are as fast or Faster only at long distance or by magical means are Infernals faster.
That charm is worse than WBS:
The Infernal moves with the ferocious speed of the killing winds of Hell.

System: The Infernal's movement speed is permanently tripled, and she doubles the result of all Initiative rolls. By reflexively spending 1 Essence, she can instead increase her movement tenfold for her Essence rating in turns. Outside of combat, her movement speed increases by one factor for every full minute she continues to run (so after a minute of running flat-out, her movement speed is quadrupled; after another minute, it is quintupled) until it caps out at a tenfold increase
They also pay more exp for it too; for that price an infernal could also pick up RtF to go with WBS:

running to Forever (•)
The Infernal is tireless as the flaying winds of Hell.
So long as she remains in motion, whether running, driving, or by whatever other means, she suffers nei- ther fatigue nor exhaustion nor even need for sleep.
System: This Charm's effects are permanent. If the Infernal remains in constant, unceasing motion for 24 hours, she completely replenishes her Essence. By reflexively paying 1 Essence, the Infernal may run full-out reflexively rather than being forced to use an action for the rest of the scene.

I mean, let's look at some speedster builds with roughly the same stats.

Purely without spending essence infernal is still faster right out the gate if they have RR Swift Stride, because they can roll their essence rating rather than spend motes to turn it on.

Solar: 5 x ( 20 + (3 x 5)) = 175 yards

Infernal: 2 x 3 x ( 20 + (3 x 5)) = 210 yards.

Okay, so what about if we start spending essence to teleport?

Up to e3 an infernal can run faster than a solar can teleport in a turn assuming they have dex 4-5 without RR as long as they pay for WBS. At e4-5 the infernal has to have taken Swift Stride to beat them. At which point the solar can't keep up anymore.

Solar: 400-500 yards

Infernal: 10 x 2 x (20 + (3 x 5)) = 700 yards

Suppose they're both e5 and firing on all cylinders then. How fast can they move only using reflexive actions?

Note that the supernal effect is a 100 yard teleport, not an essence X 100 yard teleport. Assuming they stack the effects that's "only" a 100 yard boost to their teleport speed.

Supernal Solar: (5 x 100) + 100 = 600 yards

Demon Emperor Shintai without WBS sig:
(10 x 2 x (20 + (3 x (5 + 4)))) = 940 yards

Demon Emperor Shintai with WSB sig:
(10 x 2 x (20 + (3 x (5 + 4))))+(5 x 100) = 1440 yards

Even if you generously assume that that Holden meant to make the supernal power a free activation of the base charm and you let them stack it with itself they'd barely beat an infernal who hasn't made the same investment. Against an equally committed infernal they're blown out of the water.

It'd be fair to call out the fact that the infernal is using multiple charms here, but that's part of my point. Without leaving their core charm set an infernal can pick up dramatically more speed boosters at a lower cost than solars can.

Give each 16 exp charm budget and an e3 infernal can run rings around an e5 solar.
 
Not that I see. There's a speed boost charm, but it's worse than WBS. They have some vehicle/steed charms, but they all work on the details of the vehicle. If the solar built a wonder car or something then they could do it, but it would have to be really bullshit and we could match that ourselves. Crafting is one of those things that isn't too horribly biased in their favor relative to other solaroids.

That charm is worse than WBS:

They also pay more exp for it too; for that price an infernal could also pick up RtF to go with WBS:



I mean, let's look at some speedster builds with roughly the same stats.

Purely without spending essence infernal is still faster right out the gate if they have RR Swift Stride, because they can roll their essence rating rather than spend motes to turn it on.

Solar: 5 x ( 20 + (3 x 5)) = 175 yards

Infernal: 2 x 3 x ( 20 + (3 x 5)) = 210 yards.

Okay, so what about if we start spending essence to teleport?

Up to e3 an infernal can run faster than a solar can teleport in a turn assuming they have dex 4-5 without RR as long as they pay for WBS. At e4-5 the infernal has to have taken Swift Stride to beat them. At which point the solar can't keep up anymore.

Solar: 400-500 yards

Infernal: 10 x 2 x (20 + (3 x 5)) = 700 yards

Suppose they're both e5 and firing on all cylinders then. How fast can they move only using reflexive actions?

Note that the supernal effect is a 100 yard teleport, not an essence X 100 yard teleport. Assuming they stack the effects that's "only" a 100 yard boost to their teleport speed.

Supernal Solar: (5 x 100) + 100 = 600 yards

Demon Emperor Shintai without WBS sig:
(10 x 2 x (20 + (3 x (5 + 4)))) = 940 yards

Demon Emperor Shintai with WSB sig:
(10 x 2 x (20 + (3 x (5 + 4))))+(5 x 100) = 1440 yards

Even if you generously assume that that Holden meant to make the supernal power a free activation of the base charm and you let them stack it with itself they'd barely beat an infernal who hasn't made the same investment. Against an equally committed infernal they're blown out of the water.

It'd be fair to call out the fact that the infernal is using multiple charms here, but that's part of my point. Without leaving their core charm set an infernal can pick up dramatically more speed boosters at a lower cost than solars can.

Give each 16 exp charm budget and an e3 infernal can run rings around an e5 solar.
There's a lot going on with lightning speed but because the supernal version quintuples the base speed then reflexive teleport of an extra 500 m plus 100m not to mention as a reflexive charm there's nothing stopping a solar from using it five times in a single round if they're an essence 5 Solar . Which is 175 m + 2,600 per round they can only do that for 4 Rounds that is true but at that point you're literally sprinting kilometers within seconds.

An infernal needs to break out three separate charms and a ones An infernal needs to break out three separate charms and a demon god transformation just to meet that. That's not an equal commitment that is an infernal committing everything they have. This is one charm with a supernal purchase. You need to spend XP for rage recast running to forever and windborne stride if you're talking about XP efficiency you're really not talking about anything.

The only way to do that would be to turn into a shentai and use the signature effect which would allow an infernal to beat the solar but that requires yet again a demon god transformation. A solar is without shenanigans that involve teleportation through water bodies or Greater magics is considerably faster than a infernal. As solars also have a god transformation they could use in that situation which yet again doubles their movement speed and increases their dexterity by 3.
 
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[X] Wait for McCoy. Harry is sure he'll show up soon

I mean no plan still likely has various traitors getting away or killed. A lot of these people are mind ficked and we want to fix that. Are we just gonna let these people get executed or cause damages before being put down? Do we have a plan?
You want to save the corrupted wizards when they most likely did things like what we just saw (remember that woman turning over a book with a teenager chained up and crying?)? There comes a point where you say enough is enough and I'm not going to vote to save even one of them.

They die.

And the plan have to wait The Black Staff to not step on the toes of The Concil(well more that we have anyways).
 
So, basically in pop. culture analogies, he's Saren from Mass Effect - he was convinced that his patron was going to win one way or another, and decided to at least make himself safer by being useful / on the side of winners.

On the subject of the vote... Waiting results in a more epic showdown.
 
Feeding Fear​
18th of February 2007 A.D.
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Y'know, based on canon Morgan doesnt seem to be the best smooth talker.
I wonder why they had him doing the bulk of the interrogation alone, instead of having the illusionist do it.
Or at least, why he didnt do it in collaboration with someone else in order to stack teamwork rolls AKA Good Cop, Bad Cop

So the mold ate people. And specifically magic-workers.
One has to wonder if they were all lesser sorcerers, or if there were full-blown wizards in the victim group. Someone needs to take a look at the Sydney-area magic community, as well as whatever the fuck is in Botany Bay.

Either way, Molly is gonna burn her boots, just out of the ick factor.

HIM. Capital letter. Thats an obvious plot hook for Molly to pursue, if its Ashraaaf or something else.

Also, now that she has him talking, nudging him to talk some more about his other associates seems to be in line.
See if we can get him to spill on what Peabody specifically has been doing, if he has any idea, and their general MO and goals, their previous successes, and their Backer.

More broadly, we should try to get him to incriminate the rest of the members of this conspiracy, in front of Warden and spirit witnesses and on a recording by Clippy. The more people he incriminates, the fewer are based on Molly's accusation that they are up to no good and the less scrutiny Molly's divination gets.

Do the Gorefel thing to him.
Sophia should be around, so we can double-team him properly in a social interrogation. If we take 30 minutes to 1 hour, we should be able to squeeze him like a lemon. If McCoy isnt here by the time we're done, we move.



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Saving Cyril should have allowed Molly recover 1 point of Willpower.
Because it resonates with two of her Intimacies, the Michael one and the Harry one.
 
[X] Wait for McCoy. Harry is sure he'll show up soon


You want to save the corrupted wizards when they most likely did things like what we just saw (remember that woman turning over a book with a teenager chained up and crying?)? There comes a point where you say enough is enough and I'm not going to vote to save even one of them.

They die.

And the plan have to wait The Black Staff to not step on the toes of The Concil(well more that we have anyways).
Carlos is included in said corrupted wizards my dude some are literally mind controlled.
 
Carlos is included in said corrupted wizards my dude some are literally mind controlled.
On top of having already cleansed Carlos of mind control that is not who we are hunting . The Wizards we are hunting are not mind controlled that they are purposeful parts of the conspiracy. Peabody, this guy we picked up, woman skinning a teenage girl. They are all warlocks and knowing participants in Black Council activities.
 
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