Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Paying a whole splendor is a lot. It sounds like Ivy needs to satisfy the requirements of being archive by taking a non token payment, but isn't herself trying to rip us off though.

With that in mind, what if we offer her an exorcism per shard she holds down for us?

If the Archive came to ask use to free people we'd almost certainly do it anyway. She probably suspects that, but we haven't confirmed it and because our only public uses of SCE have been with fey we've gotten paid for it on every occasion she can reasonably be aware of.

The exorcism, for all its only essence and time for us, is an essentially unique and very valuable ability. Especially for the Archive's purposes because the victims remember things about what Nemesis thought while riding them that it would never give voice, much less put to page.

As to why it's worth doing?

Screw nemesis. I think there's good odds it's more of a problem for it than we can see right now, but even if it isn't that guy gets away free of any personal consequences for what it does to people.

Even if all it does is give it a paper cut and make it sad I'll take it. The thing almost never even gets that much of what it's earned.

Spite is an entirely valid motive for an infernal.
 
not respiring the heady perfume of the Avalon's gardens as had been proposed, but rather dwelling in a humble bottle of bleach
This seems an odd thing for us to reveal. There's poisonous blood of our enemy right there, which we could spin as absorbing his power.

Edit: Also in large enough quantities that we don't have to also reveal RVD
 
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This seems an odd thing for us to reveal. There's poisonous blood of our enemy right there, which we could spin as absorbing his power.

Edit: Also in large enough quantities that we don't have to also reveal RVD

Molly did not reveal anything in public, she went to her room with a bottle of bleach and came back with all her essence an hour later. Granted that could have been spying on you, but telling Titania not to clean up the god blood would have been more noticeable and might have been taken badly since you know, it was rather unpleasant to look at and smell
 
[X] You are fast enough to do it without a binding (To defeat and be eligible to consume each shard Molly must deliver 7 Wounds to a spirit-form with a Dodge 6 Soak 3 in a single round without Excellencies or other charms)
 
Yes, but that is because it is part of a greater whole, Nemesis' power is that it can leverage all of it's attention as much or as little as it wants in any one place. These shards are at the moment at their weakest because it knows it's going to lose them. When Mab was trying to remove one by main force it contested her, strengthened the shard since it knew that would take up her time and effort.
Would the noble fae we free be obligated to repay us somehow for freeing them? Including by providing us with crafting reagents? Or does whatever debt exist transfer to their liege lady?
 
[X] You are fast enough to do it without a binding (To defeat and be eligible to consume each shard Molly must deliver 7 Wounds to a spirit-form with a Dodge 6 Soak 3 in a single round without Excellencies or other charms)

[X] Have the Archive bind them in exchange for one exorcism per shard restrained.
 
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Another thing occurs to me here; DF circles are bullshit and very nearly any idiot can make one without any training. They also can be set to either physical things or spiritual ones, making it hard to trap Molly without a more complicated array.

Wizards have an issue with being stuck in one because one set to block the spiritual and magical limits them to the power inside when it goes up. We on the other hand bring all our power with us like internally.

It's unlikely we're going to make anything particularly astounding with no training in the S/W/B path, but it doesn't need to actually hold Nemesis, just slow it down.

Perform our ritual in a circle that we don't let the prisoners see. When the shard is out it needs to take at least one action to break out even if it's a crap ward, on top of how the last one seemed to come out stunned.

@DragonParadox would this or my counter offer proposal be valid write ins?

Yes, but that is because it is part of a greater whole, Nemesis' power is that it can leverage all of it's attention as much or as little as it wants in any one place. These shards are at the moment at their weakest because it knows it's going to lose them. When Mab was trying to remove one by main force it contested her, strengthened the shard since it knew that would take up her time and effort.
Fair enough I guess, though it at least feels like as a group they should count for something to me.

Related note; do we need to take special action to get an Iku doggy bag, or is that something we can presume Molly will do?

The best time would have been before we left the field, but we could at least try something if we need to do it now.
Once there were maidens three of their kind, mourning three sisters lost,
One without name forgotten, two paying war's bitter cost.
The first set to spin destiny's thread, the second to measure,
The last to cut, ending lives with neither sorrow nor pleasure.
But whence came the thread, the world's secret treasure?
Once there were giants of earth and sea, or fire and frost
A bargain now forgotten, a bargain now broken. Lo, they are lost
So getting this implies he has some sort of significant connection to them directly (or potentially just as a concept) right? Especially since he was positively ancient, even if he probably wasn't old enough to be around for the age of sorrows.

Assuming those are the Maidens of Exalted, this suddenly feels relevant:

Huh... according to some sources Iku Turso was the one who impregnated the Maiden of Air, Ilmatar that she would later give birth to the very hero who bound Iku Turso."
Air would be Journeys right?

… Did we just kill Mercury's most poorly considered one night stand?
 
Bit of an aside here, but any ideas on what Iku's overall plan was?

I get the backstab thing, but if it'd actually gone as he expected and they managed to kill Molly wouldn't he still be in the heart of Summer having just killed someone Titania still needed and revealed himself to be working with Nemesis against her interests?

Worse for Iku; she and her army would be fresh while he'd be coming off a hard fight. Which seems like a bad position to be in even if Nemesis was actually willing to stick its neck out for him for some reason.

Sure, that makes sense, just keep in mind casting the spell costs a lot of essence and if the archive needs an exorcism done she's going to want it quite urgently.
That's fair.

And really, if the Archive has an urgent need to exorcise someone it's probably not a good idea to put it off even if we could.

[X] You are fast enough to do it without a binding (To defeat and be eligible to consume each shard Molly must deliver 7 Wounds to a spirit-form with a Dodge 6 Soak 3 in a single round without Excellencies or other charms)

[X] Have the Archive bind them in exchange for one exorcism per shard restrained.

To argue for this once more:

1) Screw Nemesis. It deserves to have some fingers bitten off by the primordial equivalent of a toddler.

2) We might get more secrets, or harm it more than Molly is aware of right now. Like reducing its infection capacity until/unless it recovers somehow. It's a long shot, but we definitely get nothing if we let it walk.

3) We already ate a god in front of these guys. I see it as a beneficial change in our reputation, but regardless it's fixed now. Not eating Nemesis won't change their opinions, but successfully pulling it off is a good enhancement to what we've already got. It highlights how useful a scary monster we are more throughly.
 
Bit of an aside here, but any ideas on what Iku's overall plan was?

I get the backstab thing, but if it'd actually gone as he expected and they managed to kill Molly wouldn't he still be in the heart of Summer having just killed someone Titania still needed and revealed himself to be working with Nemesis against her interests?

Worse for Iku; she and her army would be fresh while he'd be coming off a hard fight. Which seems like a bad position to be in even if Nemesis was actually willing to stick its neck out for him for some reason.
Probably figured that even in a worst case scenario, it would still be able to flee with its tentacles between its legs.

That didn't quite work out, though.
 
[X] You are fast enough to do it without a binding (To defeat and be eligible to consume each shard Molly must deliver 7 Wounds to a spirit-form with a Dodge 6 Soak 3 in a single round without Excellencies or other charms)
 
Probably figured that even in a worst case scenario, it would still be able to flee with its tentacles between its legs.

That didn't quite work out, though.
The only reason Titania couldn't freeze time was because of the tug o war we had going on with local reality though.

Two fey queens and all their high nobility aren't a force to screw with, especially on their doorstep.

I'm pretty sure the reason we got away with it is because it was a gambit pileup between Nemesis, the Denarians, Mab, and Uriel. One in which Uriel specifically wanted us free and Mab initially wanted Harry out then didn't have the time to adjust for us.

Evidently it could contest her, but I'm skeptical about escaping while tired and wounded.
 
I really don't want Molly to try and eat the shards on her own only to fuck up and look bad in front of Titania when so far we've been doing really well reputation wise. No point in risking it.
 
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[X] Have the Archive bind them in exchange for one exorcism per shard restrained.

[X] Ask Titania to kill the Nemesis Shards after they are excorsised.
 
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I get the backstab thing, but if it'd actually gone as he expected and they managed to kill Molly wouldn't he still be in the heart of Summer having just killed someone Titania still needed and revealed himself to be working with Nemesis against her interests?

Worse for Iku; she and her army would be fresh while he'd be coming off a hard fight. Which seems like a bad position to be in even if Nemesis was actually willing to stick its neck out for him for some reason.
The only reason Titania couldn't freeze time was because of the tug o war we had going on with local reality though.
I mean how did he showup in the heart of the summer court in the first place? It must've been guarded right? Seems almost like he teleported in.

He might've had a decent chance of fleeing in that scenerio. Use your minions to stall Titania's soilders, swallow anyone who gets too close, use your godpower to fuck with local reality and fight off zawarudo timestop, then use whatever method you used to get in to the royal palace to bail.
 
I mean how did he showup in the heart of the summer court in the first place? It must've been guarded right? Seems almost like he teleported in.

He might've had a decent chance of fleeing in that scenerio. Use your minions to stall Titania's soilders, swallow anyone who gets too close, use your godpower to fuck with local reality and fight off zawarudo timestop, then use whatever method you used to get in to the royal palace to bail.
That's true, but it was also done by surprise. There's a difference between sneaking in and busting out while the proprietor is staring you right in the face.
 
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