Just a quick note here. There's another option here, which is that combat power isn't a linear scale. Molly may just be particularly strong against Outsiders, like Starborn are.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Just a quick note here. There's another option here, which is that combat power isn't a linear scale. Molly may just be particularly strong against Outsiders, like Starborn are.
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Considering the quest is about a year old now and has barely gotten through months an entire semester would probably be years from now.Odin wants to send a social-specced Exalt looking for allies and connections to Harvard? Santa, you are the gift that keeps giving.
Give Molly a semester or two and she could probably instigate more than just spontaneous combustion in the learners there
The people who go to Harvard are either those who excel or those with connections, and both of those demographics are beneficial to Molly's plans of enacting grand-scale social/political/technological change.
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the fact this dolphin idea has merit makes me laugh really really hard.
Yes, but apparently we can do the transitions under water if we can navigate. Marker stones have been suggested so we don't lose our sense of direction, but there is a much more sensible solution.
If all we need to avoid is losing our direction a dive compass would neatly solve that problem without any need for prep work beyond reading a map to knowing what body of water is in what direction.
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uh fairly sure odin is explicitly not out just for his and his own mind you he might prioritize his own. But, that calculus on his part. The dude wog from jim butcher is the kind of guy who risks his life to help humanity (note with the way mantles work I'm not sure every part of him is benevolent.) and is the type to both mythologically and in jim butchers story take deadly risks.
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hey @DragonParadox is a map of the united states enough to ask for the location of every dragon nest in the united states? I assume the countries map as a conduit is enough for something like that especially since dragon nests have an association with well locations. Also if not every normal map we could look up the first modern map of the u.s. and use that as a focus?
Also lets be honest guys if we were gonna use the U.S. map for a question it would not be anytime soon. Also if we're trying to find something on a map then looking for something related to said thing and asking where said location(s) might be is easier.
Also lets be honest guys if we were gonna use the U.S. map for a question it would not be anytime soon. Also if we're trying to find something on a map then looking for something related to said thing and asking where said location(s) might be is easier.
Expansion != abandonment.
More than half of plans we talk about require extensive external holdings and general time investment outside of the city. We'll need to solve this problem eventually, might as well be early on in our investment cycle.
Also, we don't spend 24/7 with Lydia. Anywhere with a direct river connection to Chicago will involve more commute time getting around the city than moving between them.
We could go to school in London and city traffic would be the largest delay in our commute.
Even if we don't do this particular thing I think it's worth taking advantage of our ability to move around more.
We probably don't want him to know we can do that. We want to take advantage of the fact that he doesn't know he needs to plan for it yet.
Yeah, but I'd focus on the people already suffering and top side territory first. We can have a significantly greater effect that way.
Even independent of recruiting old people this should definitely be on the list if we can make it work.
Being able to offer say a decade of life in a bottle would basically let us print money and inflict. If we can do it without completely reverting their apparent age anyway.
There's a broader business that could be interesting as s means for harvesting cash from the ultra wealthy too.
Eventually they'll be too old to be plausible, so we set up a whole system for farming identities and transferring wealth around globally. Then when some 90 year old billionaire wants to reset to 20 we changed them 25% of their net worth to perform the procedure and resettle them with their remaining assets.
Since Odin fixed it already and the council is busy I'd give it good odds they aren't aware of it yet either.
Being this dismissive doesn't exactly help when discussions like that come up.Great idea that would be great for us, too bad it will fail for the same reasons as other equally good ideas, the self-search for the morality of the topic where we are not allowed to seek the full usefulness of our Infernal charms (some points I admit but most of them I just think they deny because they don't want to accept that they're playing as an Infernal and not a Solar) and the inevitable allegations that it would go against Molly's morals.
It's hard to be an true Infernal fan in this world.
Though in this particular case I don't see why it would.
The problem with IDU (or my problem with it) is that fomor is a shitty upgrade in most cases. Slapping it on teenagers and minor talents without substantial skills to back it up is just making a trash mob to bleed all over the first person they fight.
Restored ww2 vets and similar people are a different ball game though, because they're actually good at things. A lifetime of training and experience could take the right bit of otherwise minor supernatural leverage and make it shine.
Why do this instead of just making potions, which alchemy can do by RaW?
Splendors are kind of a big deal, and we can only have so many attuned at a time.
Just making the few we've designed so far is probably going require owning multiple dragon nests that we cycle through and occasionally destroy on accident.
I wouldn't count on that. We did claim it in public and Odin is good at information games.
No, we need to kill something for any type of splendor. 1-2 is generic elder vamp/strong beast, 3+ and they have to be personally impressive. That or we need to rip the heart out of a dragon nest.
Yeah, I see. That's an issue. A big one, even. Still, getting people immortal should be worth it. We'd need to hunt something big for this. A second naagloshii? They seem like nice, acceptable targets, and we would have advantage on offensive.
Well, Alchemical immortality (life prolongation, even at 5 and 6 dots you still age, even if far slower) require constant effort by Molly to maintain. The splendor transformation I designed is far superior. It's "once and done" deal, and has a lot of advantages alchemy doesn't have. Rapid (beyond exalted) healing, superhuman potential (6 and 7 is Attribute caps), inbuilt awareness, alertness and athletics.
Too much effort to use for money. Age reversal is to be used for political gains, I feel.
He's in it for humanity, but I am fairly sure he would prioritize people connected to himself first, and that's normal.
Just going back to this point. I realise that Molly actually is. One of the big advantages that Outsides have is that they usually can't be harmed by and are resistant to magic and harm, which the magic of Starborn wizards bypasses.
As Ecalted charms affected the Walker and other outsider, Molly's powers clearly bypass their protection as well.
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I mean isn't that true for us too? Also while definitely in it for others I'm fairly sure he would sacrifice himself. Fairly sure he'd also make sacrifices of his own for the greater good.
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Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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No doubt about it, old people who want to be young again would make for a great recruitment pool.
When it comes to potentially exchanging youth for service, however, there is a demographic we shouldn't overlook. Rather than the elderly, I think our best pool of recruits would be those on the wrong side of middle age, when beauty begins to fade, the senses start to dull, muscles no longer recover quite so quickly, etc. Old people have had time to accept that age has caught up with them, and that time has withered their bodies such that recovering even if their youth is restored would be a significant hassle. The pool of middle-aged professionals is full of people absolutely desperate to stave off their decline for a few more years, to find something to keep them relevant as a new generation inevitably comes for their jobs, money, attention, etc.
The elderly can have all sorts of good skills that have faded with time and infirmity, but they can also bring narrow mindsets and rigid thinking with them. There can also be issues with blending in among younger groups, adjusting to modern technology they've only barely interacted with in their twilight years, and taking orders from people who they've spent decades viewing as children. The older you get, I've found, the older your peers must be to take them seriously. I'm sure long-lived or immortal creatures experience this disconnect as well, but they've had decades or centuries to accept that the pecking order doesn't always respect age or experience, not when power trumps all else.
When it comes to potentially exchanging youth for service, however, there is a demographic we shouldn't overlook. Rather than the elderly, I think our best pool of recruits would be those on the wrong side of middle age, when beauty begins to fade, the senses start to dull, muscles no longer recover quite so quickly, etc. Old people have had time to accept that age has caught up with them, and that time has withered their bodies such that recovering even if their youth is restored would be a significant hassle. The pool of middle-aged professionals is full of people absolutely desperate to stave off their decline for a few more years, to find something to keep them relevant as a new generation inevitably comes for their jobs, money, attention, etc.
The elderly can have all sorts of good skills that have faded with time and infirmity, but they can also bring narrow mindsets and rigid thinking with them. There can also be issues with blending in among younger groups, adjusting to modern technology they've only barely interacted with in their twilight years, and taking orders from people who they've spent decades viewing as children. The older you get, I've found, the older your peers must be to take them seriously. I'm sure long-lived or immortal creatures experience this disconnect as well, but they've had decades or centuries to accept that the pecking order doesn't always respect age or experience, not when power trumps all else.
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also how a lot of immortal beings have a more locked personality than others. Now not completely but they absolutely do.
Harvesting hard to access dragon nests is probably the "easiest" way to handle this. There are probably a few conjunctions under the Great Lakes no one bothers with because they're inconvenient that we can chew on.
That's a lot of power; they'll basically be rolling low grade excellencies for all their highest skills by the end of things.
Having guys like that would be good, but I don't think we want to be creating armies of them. Regular life extension/age reversal is probably good enough for all but the most impressive recruits.
I favor alchemy for that, but there's also potentially a cheap(ish) way to do it as a splendor. 1 dot items basically take the weakest most generic thing to qualify as a dangerous beast, which is the sort of thing we can pretty reliably hunt for parts. They only get 4 points to work with, that's still a decent amount of power:
Technically health problems aren't necessarily damage, but accelerated regeneration while your biology runs backwards seems like it should justify removing a lot of things.
Not sure what time ratio we'd get, but as a fascination it can effect multiple people at once and be used on more than it's rating in targets a story as long as there aren't repeats. It's probably pretty substantial though, because if
It didn't age you backwards fast enough to be visible no one would notice.
It might not actually roll them back entirely on its own, but if we set up what's basically a spa where our older mortals go once an arc to get the years taken off it could maintain them pretty well in decent quantities.
Alchemical life extension in combination with that would plug the holes in the magic drugs and let us expand the pool of people a single such splendor could support.
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This would actually be better for @Goldfish 's suggestion on the middle aged since they need less time taken off.
If it "only" takes around 5 years off an exposure, which is enough to be visible but not insanely extreme, then someone on the wrong side of the hill could see immediate benefits that compound over a period of months until they hit their biological peak.
Better, it's not a one and done immortality treatment that also makes them super soldiers; they have to keep coming back if they want to keep their benefits.
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[X] You are looking to stay closer to home
[X] You are considering your options (may be taken as an invitation to sweeten the pot)
Personally, I want to say a hard no, but I don't want to split the vote.
Moving away means giving up on everything we have built in Chicago. Lydia, the Jade dogs, the order, Bob, our alliances, our mentor relationship with our father. Everything we have spent this whole quest doing, we would have to start over. That is not worth it.
Besides, the things Odin lists as negatives, I see as positives. The fact that Chicago is full of powerful entities and is the center of important events is a good thing. Plenty of things to defeat, ally with or take over. We are already on semi-friendly terms with the White Court so this being their territory isn't a problem.
Exalts thrive on adversity and tend to end up ruling any place they stay in for long enough. Why found a kingdom in the middle of nowhere when we can co-opt an existing one?
Odin is ambushing us with this offer in the hopes we will go along with it without thinking. Please don't make life altering promises to powerful entities the moment they offer it.
[X] You are considering your options (may be taken as an invitation to sweeten the pot)
Personally, I want to say a hard no, but I don't want to split the vote.
Moving away means giving up on everything we have built in Chicago. Lydia, the Jade dogs, the order, Bob, our alliances, our mentor relationship with our father. Everything we have spent this whole quest doing, we would have to start over. That is not worth it.
Besides, the things Odin lists as negatives, I see as positives. The fact that Chicago is full of powerful entities and is the center of important events is a good thing. Plenty of things to defeat, ally with or take over. We are already on semi-friendly terms with the White Court so this being their territory isn't a problem.
Exalts thrive on adversity and tend to end up ruling any place they stay in for long enough. Why found a kingdom in the middle of nowhere when we can co-opt an existing one?
Odin is ambushing us with this offer in the hopes we will go along with it without thinking. Please don't make life altering promises to powerful entities the moment they offer it.
I have two issues with this:
1) It's wasteful. Awakened Dragon's eye is a thing. Every destroyed Dragon nest is one we are not tapping for more power on a constant basis.
2) I have worries that destroying Dragon Nests would do harmful things to the world. Those are supposed to be nexuses of the leylines. Harvesting them in a permanent way sounds like a terrible decision. If we can assume that this does no permanent or strong immediate damage to the environment, I would be more ok with that. At the very least, we could probably raid fomori-held Dragon Nests and harvest those. @DragonParadox this sounds like something Molly could roll for (Int + Occult with excellency) - does destroying a Dragon Nest to harvest its power (as outlined in Splendor Creation part of the crafting document) damage the environment in any major or permanent way? Or is it just slurping off the excess? Or is DresdenVerse a higher energy one than WoD and the Nests aren't destroyed, merely drained (possibly with a variant of Emanation rules, where it is normally drained for a hundred years, but we can feed it essence to restore it quicker)?
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I definitely want to give such to all our family members and Order of Cauldron members. It essentially gives minor practitioners full Wizard health benefits (and a lot on top)
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Immortality can wait, just getting people combat viable should be the priority. Immortality can wait until after we have effective control of the world.
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thats never gonna happen. Ngl even if we reached devil tiger bullshit the worlds still probably got us beat. Probably.
This is not true.
If they are not specifically spirits or the like, it has no purview.
Fair enough.
It does imply that when Uriel canonically gave Dresden access to soulfire, he included a datadump/software update with regards to skill and knowledge that Dresden didnt even notice.
/just archangel things
No it doesnt. Thats just fluff, at least in ExWoD.
You dont have to worry about it. The text is clear about whats fluff and whats actual mechanics.
Sustenance from use of the charm is fluff left over from how the Ex2 version of the charm actually worked, where it was actually quantified with limits.
It has no relevance here.
This is not Exalted 2E, this is Exalted vs World of Darkness.
Charms do not work the same way as they did in the First and Second Age.
Different rules apply.
It doesnt.
Not all agreements are formal.
We have no agreement with regards to tenancy of the Jade Dogs, yet they live here. Dude didnt have to raise a finger against the Will of Kakuri but did so. The fact that we dont have a formal agreement doesnt mean we dont have understandings and obligations towards each other.
1) Marcone became a Freeholding Lord in canon while the White Court was still in Chicago, Dresden was in residence, Michael was still serving and the White Council used Chicago as a major travel nexus and one of their meeting spots.
And for all that time, he and the White Court operated side by side with each other.
Odin wouldnt care. Its not like Molly has a history of going out shanking people on impulse.
2)None of that.
We do not want a situation where people start looking at the fine print of agreements with us to see what loopholes we can exploit.
That does not serve us or the people under us.
We want to be clear about what we agree to, and what we dont.
Rules-lawyering the letter and not the spirit will come back to fuck us in the ass reputation-wise.
No it isnt.
It works best when employed to empower groups of people, but individually it can still be pretty potent in its own right.
Remind me by Sunday if I forget to build you one or two.
Emanations and crafting takes time and resources.
Weeks, potentially months depending on the rating. IDU is just spend Essence and move on.
I personally prefer to craft shit, but I feel its necessary to remember that charms have their own uses.
The Red Court suffered a major defeat in June in open combat.
They got in a major battle with the White Council, the Red King took the field, and they got jumped by the Summer Court as well. Morgan killed a Duke and two Counts on his way to the Red King, and the Red King fled the field of battle.
They are probably not in any particular shape for major expansions, and we know that House Skavis has its HQ in Boston.
They arent going to contest the White Court for it.
Not now.
And with Mab and Maeve a lot less focused on internal affairs due to their purge, the foreign affairs landscape has been drastically reshaped compared to a month ago. The next time they attack White Council wizards using pathways through Faerie, or start throwing Outsiders around in Faerie, Consequences are likely to be a lot swifter.
Not to mention that when the Leanansidhe gets out of Winter's Heart, she'll be out for blood.
Poisoning Winter's Number 3 woman with a Nemesis-tainted gift kinda has consequences for the faction that did it.
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Same with the Fomor.
They have generational beef with the two Faerie Courts, and fled under the sea for that reason after the Fae beat them like a drum. Its not quite shoot on sight, but there's no love lost between them even now.
Whether the juice would be worth the squeeze from their PoV is...questionable.
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I have zero interest in giving Daniel offensive power.
This is not a YA series where the family can all go adventuring, and where its a charming bonding exercise for teenage paramours. This aint Season 1 Buffy. There's seriousface risks for everyone involved in this shit, and the costs are not just personal.
This is not a way of life that you actually retire from, and I dont want to enable a 16-17 year old to jump in because his first girlfriend was born into the Life.
-Most of Cauldron are adult women, with careers or families.
Olivia is literally the youngest named member we are aware of, and she is a nineteen /twenty year old who is in taking both college and dance classes on student loans. Privileged Ivy League college kids are not their recruitment demographic.
The Paranet is certainly a future goal, but even the Paranet doesnt primarily recruit from college kids.
-Jade Dogs already have a goal. We have shit in Chicago that needs guarding to keep the riff raff out.
Even if we moved to Boston/Cambridge at Odin's behest, a lot of fixed infrastructure will still be here, and we probably will only take some of the Jade Dogs with us.
-We have as much a commitment to him as we do to Lydia.
The Jade Dogs resident there arent paying rent, and there was no expectation that he risk himself in their defense against a greater akuma of Kakuri. Yet he did so, without asking recompense. When he started jonesing for a train, we incorporated it into our plans without asking for a contract modification.
Y'all may not have noticed when it happened, but we became friends.
-DF Ghosts are severely nerfed in the daytime, or in the presence of someone like a necromancer, or who has necromantic lore.
Wood soldier armies are only of use when you have preptime to move them. They are mundane, they need to walk and travel, they dont heal or repair that I recall, and their stats are based off ExWoD zombies
The zombies created by Raise the Skeletal Horde or Risen and Screaming have Strength 3, Dexterity 2, Stamina 4, Intelligence 1, Brawl 2, and always act last in a turn. They have Willpower 10 for the purpose of resisting effects, but cannot spend any of it. Zombies have 10 health levels, and cannot suffer wound penalties. They halve any bashing damage they suffer after soak (round down), and suffer aggravated damage from fire. They can soak lethal damage, but cannot soak aggravated damage. They also cannot ever heal damage. Zombies have no minds to speak of, and so are immune to any mind-controlling effect not specifically designed to command the walking dead.
-No Im not.
My year statement is assuming Molly donates XP to her to let her grow.
I did the math on what she needs for basic independent operation, and 70 xp is...insufficient.
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Just buying up the essential charms is 54xp.
Add Mo Kung 2 at 6xp, Summoning/Warding 3 at 7 xp and Acute Senses 1(Hearing or Sight) at 4xp and you are at 71xp, above the cap. And we still have significant gaps in capability for a solo operator.
Or you could drop Call The Hunt, freeing up 12xp for Awareness 3, Alertness 3 and Occult 2, and thus exchanging combat ability for some more rounding. Significantly more vulnerable to getting bumrushed out of the blue.
Boston was also HQ for the Skavis.
Make of that what you will.
Chicago is already in Marcone's hands.
He runs most of the mundane crime, and has significant penetration into both the real estate industry and at least some of the supernatural. All that he doesnt have is the overt supernatural recognition as a Player.
Reworking how the law works? Thats WAY beyond us at the moment.
Its not the work of a couple months, its the work of years, even for an Exalt, especially given everything else that's going on.
And its not a political power thing. Or just a Chicago thing.
Revenge doesnt actually bring a dead person back to life.
A lot of the people on our current or potential enemies list certainly dont care.
Lydia heals like any other Exalt.
It takes her anywhere from 12 hours to 5 days to heal a level of Lethal or Agg damage beyond her -0 health levels. She doesnt get to soak in bleach and regen damage over an hour for lethal, or a couple hours for Agg.
I dont agree.
Lets leave it at that.
Yes. Odin just as much told her he could arrange her entry if she agreed.
You dont think any of this is stuff he'd leave to chance, do you?
Ten to one there's been applications in Molly's name at the admissions departments of every R1 university in Greater Boston: MIT, Northeastern U, Boston U, Boston College, Harvard, Brandeis, and Tufts.
At least since Johann bit the dust in September. Possibly since Gard saw us make those EMP bombs in June.
US universities dont use entrance exams that I know of.
Other than the SAT that almost everyone takes, their admissions departments use internal criteria, which do include high school academics and extra curriculars, but also everything from academic performance to diversity criteria to who their parents are to a history of donations to the school fund to the potential for future donations to the school.
A lot of the people who get in, especially at Ivy Leagues like Harvard, while they do meet the minimum criteria, get in based on who they know.
In Admissions, Harvard Favors Those Who Fund It, Internal Emails Show | News | The Harvard Crimson
In one 2013 email headlined “My Hero,” former Kennedy School Dean Ellwood thanked Harvard's dean of admissions for his help accepting a set of students with very particular qualifications. "[Redacted] and [redacted] are all big wins. [Redacted] has already committed to a building.”
Attendees seemed equally riveted by Hughes's questions about the dean's interest list. Apart from a few Harvard insiders, no one knew that list existed until summer 2018, when it bubbled up in court documents released as part of the suit. The filings showed that College applicants who make the list are frequently related to "high-priority" individuals who boast close University connections — people such as top donors or "other influential alumni."
Harvard has been tight-lipped about who earns a spot on that list and why. On Wednesday, Hughes pressed for answers. He asked Fitzsimmons whether the list includes the "children of donors" and "other relatives of donors."
"It could be," Fitzsimmons said.
Hughes also grilled Fitzsimmons on how applicants wind up on the dean's list. Fitzsimmons said the University Development Office — an office that solicits alumni donations — sometimes offers names to the dean. Summer court filings suggested the dean regularly sits down with Development Office employees and senior admissions staff to discuss specific high schoolers.
Fitzsimmons defended Harvard's special treatment of applicants linked to top donors as "important for the long-term strength of the institution." He said this tactic secures funding for scholarships, among other things.
Despite its low profile, the dean's interest list has helped shape Harvard admissions for at least the past half-decade.
Documents published in June revealed that 192 current Harvard seniors — more than 10 percent of the Class of 2019 — are members of the dean's list or the "Director's List," a similarly select group of applicants compiled by Director of Admissions Marlyn E. McGrath '70 every year.
The June filings also show that students on the twin lists make up 9.34 percent of Harvard admits across six years, ranging from the Class of 2014 through the Class of 2019. The admission rate for members of the dean's and director's lists during this time period clocked in at 42.2 percent, more than nine times the overall acceptance rate for the Class of 2022.
In addition to a higher likelihood of admission, students on these lists see certain opportunities — such as staff interviews held on campus in the admissions office — that others do not, according to court filings published over the summer.
College spokesperson Rachael Dane wrote in an emailed statement in August that students on both the dean's and director's lists compete in the "same rigorous admissions process" as do all other Harvard applicants.
"The Dean's interest list is inclusive of all applicants who the Dean of Admissions wishes to keep track of during the admissions process, whether they be children of donors, or an applicant the Dean met at some point in their high school career and wished to keep an eye on," Dane wrote.
SFFA has noted that students who appear on the two lists — along with legacy students, recruited athletes, and children of Harvard faculty members — are overwhelmingly white. Students in these four categories make up roughly 29 percent of students at the College, which SFFA argues results in fewer spots awarded to Asian-American applicants.
Harvard has been tight-lipped about who earns a spot on that list and why. On Wednesday, Hughes pressed for answers. He asked Fitzsimmons whether the list includes the "children of donors" and "other relatives of donors."
"It could be," Fitzsimmons said.
Hughes also grilled Fitzsimmons on how applicants wind up on the dean's list. Fitzsimmons said the University Development Office — an office that solicits alumni donations — sometimes offers names to the dean. Summer court filings suggested the dean regularly sits down with Development Office employees and senior admissions staff to discuss specific high schoolers.
Fitzsimmons defended Harvard's special treatment of applicants linked to top donors as "important for the long-term strength of the institution." He said this tactic secures funding for scholarships, among other things.
Despite its low profile, the dean's interest list has helped shape Harvard admissions for at least the past half-decade.
Documents published in June revealed that 192 current Harvard seniors — more than 10 percent of the Class of 2019 — are members of the dean's list or the "Director's List," a similarly select group of applicants compiled by Director of Admissions Marlyn E. McGrath '70 every year.
The June filings also show that students on the twin lists make up 9.34 percent of Harvard admits across six years, ranging from the Class of 2014 through the Class of 2019. The admission rate for members of the dean's and director's lists during this time period clocked in at 42.2 percent, more than nine times the overall acceptance rate for the Class of 2022.
In addition to a higher likelihood of admission, students on these lists see certain opportunities — such as staff interviews held on campus in the admissions office — that others do not, according to court filings published over the summer.
College spokesperson Rachael Dane wrote in an emailed statement in August that students on both the dean's and director's lists compete in the "same rigorous admissions process" as do all other Harvard applicants.
"The Dean's interest list is inclusive of all applicants who the Dean of Admissions wishes to keep track of during the admissions process, whether they be children of donors, or an applicant the Dean met at some point in their high school career and wished to keep an eye on," Dane wrote.
SFFA has noted that students who appear on the two lists — along with legacy students, recruited athletes, and children of Harvard faculty members — are overwhelmingly white. Students in these four categories make up roughly 29 percent of students at the College, which SFFA argues results in fewer spots awarded to Asian-American applicants.
And Odin isnt going to bribe anyone. He doesnt have to. Dude has capital I Influence here that probably predate the US Civil War.
For instance? The base we are currently standing in is this
Post-Attack Command and Control System Facility, Hadley - Wikipedia
Its a former strategic nuclear command bunker and military base for the US 8th Air Force, which ran a good chunk of the USAF nuclear forces during the Cold War, and still runs the B-1, B-2s, B-52s nuclear bombers. After the USAF stopped using it, it was used by the Federal Reserve to store money in the event of a nuclear war.
Its just a little over a hundred miles from Boston, and Harvard, and twenty miles from a major operational Air Force base.
Places like this dont just drop out of sight and use right next to the BosWash corridor on the eastern seaboard.
Yet he has a covert mercenary force operating out of it, and access to MIC computer systems.
This is Big Swinging Dick territory.
If his Donnar Vadderung persona had a stat sheet, you'd probably see something like Contacts NA, Influence NA.
I certainly wont be surprised if his relationship to schools in this area dates back to the 17th century. If he wants someone in school here, he's going to make a phone call, some quiet discussions will happen and a name or two will show up on the Dean's List.
No exams or bribes involved.
Just like Dresden managed to get released from police custody on a Saturday afternoon after Forthill provided proof, then made some discreet calls up the Catholic Church hierarchy.
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if we're talking proactive action I think the only thing we've done on our own volition is start fixing up the home of the smol dragon. (Edit: oh and the ghoul stuff.) Even that was in reaction to them asking for it for a favor in return. We've done basically jack shit in proactive actions and spreading influence. Now we've made small waves yes but its all in reaction. So people talking about ruling harvard I don't see it especially at the pace we go, I also don't see us ruling chicago even to a level marcone does, I don't see us doing many things besides time to time adventures so far. Now I know that can change but considering its been a year these ARE going to be slow changes so we're basically just talking right now.
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1)Unlikely. Outsiders are Outside Fate, just like Exalts are.
2)Probably not.This falls under the "hostis humanis generis" provisions, I would suspect.
Everybody benefits from not having people like this trying shit. It would be like charging him for information that an imprisoned Outsider is breaking out of its prison.
With the powers available to us, we could very thoroughly take over Chicago and enact massive reform.
We don't need law or finance or politics skills ourselves. We can just outsource that to people loyal to us.
We could make a tremendous difference by doing this; and access all sorts of resources in preparation for the apocalypse.
We don't need law or finance or politics skills ourselves. We can just outsource that to people loyal to us.
We could make a tremendous difference by doing this; and access all sorts of resources in preparation for the apocalypse.
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- washington
Of course we can but I see a lot of talk and not a lot of actual proactive action. Now given we're still in the early phase of an exalted so bumrushing our way into important actions is stupid. But, it doesn't change the fact proactive actions and change on even smallish scale stuff hasn't been done yet and it doesn't change on the time scale things are working we simply wont do those things for a long long time. Even small actions are the work of several updates large actions for change are pretty much indefinite actions.
I'd say a lot of this is because we're still assembling our toolkit.
An action spent building mundane power may be a lot less effective now than an action later when we have better tools.
- Location
- washington
Yeah but we still work on an action economy based around small time periods. If that doesn't change we aren't changing chicago or the world in large ways period. Well that or the quest going on for like 10 years at this pace. Also until we do change things in the world all its been is talk of what we could do but never would.