Spirits are made entirely of soul.
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Strangely enough Solars DO get their Spirit-killer, while Infernals dont get the ones they had? Can we later do a conversion of Exalted to ExWoD?
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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Strangely enough Solars DO get their Spirit-killer, while Infernals dont get the ones they had? Can we later do a conversion of Exalted to ExWoD?
*grumble, grumble* I just got into this system, I should not have to adjudicate fluff and system contradictions this fast.
I am going to say both spells do what their fluff says they do because this is a game about magic demigods not a spreadsheet. Flaying a spirit apart for its essence destroys it and when a charm says you are more resistant to pain that is what you are. I will mark where the break point is on the sheet so you guys can more easily see it.
I am going to say both spells do what their fluff says they do because this is a game about magic demigods not a spreadsheet. Flaying a spirit apart for its essence destroys it and when a charm says you are more resistant to pain that is what you are. I will mark where the break point is on the sheet so you guys can more easily see it.
Damnit. Should've bought Ox-Body...
Its a dot but still nerfed.
Edit: So now we have to ask and watch out for how fluff effect mechanics and not just read mechanics...
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What matters is the will and symbolism to both summoner and summoned, but having physicality is important, because it gives form to the symbol, and no mind is so consistent that it can maintain a symbol like that while doing anything else.DF is a little inconsistent about that, sometimes it has what you mention, but there's once Dresden uses string and chalk, and another time he uses sprinkled pepper, because what matters is the Will. I guess we could resolve it by saying the poured silver in granite helps the wizard's self-confidence? Or just go with rule of cool.
Also, Molly is a baby summoner
Also effort and magic invested beforehand makes it more potent than if it was empowered on the spot
Harry is good enough that any old circle will do unless he's calling up something chonky.
Molly just fought Outsiders and she will be fine in time for school tomorrow. You can ask the nice wizards if that means you are weak.
It means that the system descriptions of Charms are untrustworthy and subject to change in ways thats not obvious. Thats bad.Molly just fought Outsiders and you will be fine in time for school tomorrow. You can ask the nice wizards if that means you are weak.
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While complaining about not getting what you wanted is a time honored tradition. Maybe dont do it directly to the GM?
We vote for this stuff.
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Hold on, wait a minute (I just woke up), what's the issue here? Mechanic and Fluff not working together?
Because in Exalted whilst mechanics and fluff go hand-in-hand, Mechanic always takes precedent
Because in Exalted whilst mechanics and fluff go hand-in-hand, Mechanic always takes precedent
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How many charms contradict each other like meat murder does?
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Table of healing speeds says "Bruised" or HLs with a penalty of (-0) heal at once per hour if lethal or agg.
We have a Charm that reduces wound penalties, but we heal slower even though we are at -0 because the fluff just says it reduces pain.
I get the frustration, but like her being unnaturally resistant to pain while obviously wounded is far more compelling to me from a storytelling PoV than her just getting more tough. There is a conversation to be had there, character building that ties back to the experience of her exaltation. I am going to do my level best not to change the system of anything unless I have to but when it is 'clean numbers or or a chance for interesting writing' I will fall on the side of the latter and can only hope you guys will understand.
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Then what's the point of the Ox-Body Technique's side benefits of letting us not be impeded by additional healing time if we can't use it?
I mean, sure you're the ST DP, there are going be some tinkering to the rules, but nerfing one of the core mechanic of an Exalt and a Charm kinda sets the precedence of other Charms not working as we thought.
Healing times are based on wound penalties.
It reduces wound penalties.
Thus it reduces healing times.
Ox-Body does not give us more flesh either, yet DP says it would count, as far as I can tell.
Ox body gives you twice as many boxes in all categories, so this:
0//0/0//-1/-1//-4//Inc
Would look like this:
0/0//0/0/0/0//-1//-1/-1-1//-4//Inc
You are not twice as hard to get to wounded and to and to crippled etc...
actually its even worse.
We'd have two -0 Boxes, only one of which heals as a -0, and we'd have tons of -1 HLs which heal as if -2 and -0 boxes which heal as if -1s.
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Perhaps you should read Infernal Ox Body technique again. It's all crippled maimed and wounded health levels.
Stuff we can walk off, but it will take time to heal.
Where does it say that? Ox body and shintai specify the penalty and type of health box given.
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I think in this case this is why the Healing Level Recovery Times table uses names rather then the penalty levels; because healing is disconnected from the penalty. For example Hurt and Injured both inflict a penalty of -1 however for Lethal damage Hurt and Injured take 12 hours and 24 hours to heal respectively. This clearly establishes that injures at the same penalty rating can have differing healing times. This is further born out by some charms providing extra Hurt and extra Injured levels despite them, again, both having the same penalty level.
So since we've ticked off both the Bruised and Hurt boxes it should take 12 hours to recover our first Health Level then another 1 hour to recover the second.
This chart in the book. Cant copy and paste charts.
There is the fact that (-0) Health boxes are only named Bruised, even in Hardened Devil Body.
So now the question becomes if changing the wound penalty changes what type of box it is.
If there was a magic that set even "Bruised" boxes to -5, would they still heal as if Bruised, or since -5 is Crippled...
Since there can be multiple -1s and -2s, but 0 and -5 seem to be more universal?
So now the question becomes if changing the wound penalty changes what type of box it is.
If there was a magic that set even "Bruised" boxes to -5, would they still heal as if Bruised, or since -5 is Crippled...
Since there can be multiple -1s and -2s, but 0 and -5 seem to be more universal?
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Going strictly by mechanical reading I'm on DP's side here.
Our Charm only lowers penalties, it doesn't turn a box called "Hurt" into a box called "Bruised".
Ox Body does add actually more health-levels and those will heal at the appropriatly named times, as does Hardened Devil Body.
Our Charm only lowers penalties, it doesn't turn a box called "Hurt" into a box called "Bruised".
Ox Body does add actually more health-levels and those will heal at the appropriatly named times, as does Hardened Devil Body.
This is what the Health and Healing table looks like
It does not say -1 it says hurt, it does not say -2 it says injured etc... so as far as I can see even if you have the power of Mega-Pain resist where you do not take any dice penalties until you fall over dead healing still works at the same rate because you are still just as damaged.
It does not say -1 it says hurt, it does not say -2 it says injured etc... so as far as I can see even if you have the power of Mega-Pain resist where you do not take any dice penalties until you fall over dead healing still works at the same rate because you are still just as damaged.
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I also looked it up.
That specifies types of health boxes not penalties.
And yeah tables are a pain.
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