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She's also a little bit of Cio from KSBD.
Quick question, how feasible is in to fetich kill a yozi in malfeas?
Because wouldn't every other assosiated 3/2CD demon and there greater self have an issue with it, or is the scale big enough and the Yozi unaware of things on that scale enough for a solar circle to pull it of?
Hard, but doable for an endgame circle assuming you're not stupid enough to just try a direct assault on Ligier's keep, say. That is to say, it can be done, but it can't be done any way - you have to actually research the demon in question and their lands and hit them where they're weak, rather than running up against the fact that Hell has been their domain for five thousand years and they're on their home ground, Hell is full of conflict, and the Third Circles fight all the time so they're expecting people to try to kill them.
Just as a quick point of clarification
does a fetich kill take out the whole pantheon requiring 100+ new demons, or do the other 3rd circles survive in some way?
Whooooooooooole pantheon. Everything collapses and the Primordial is a new person.
Plus, if you do that to Malfeas, the number of demons that die probably makes you the worst monster in history and gets the Dowager wanting your hand in marriage.
Does that technically mean if you time it right, and do enough prep work, your glorious solariod/lunar/sidreal/dragonblood hero could take out all the yozi in a single blow via 3rd circle collateral in a collapsing city, which may or may not create enough neverborne to drop the rest into oblivion, permanently removing the greatest threats to creation.
Someone has to try this, its so much faster than dealing with the threats one at a time.
Hard, but doable for an endgame circle assuming you're not stupid enough to just try a direct assault on Ligier's keep, say. That is to say, it can be done, but it can't be done any way - you have to actually research the demon in question and their lands and hit them where they're weak, rather than running up against the fact that Hell has been their domain for five thousand years and they're on their home ground, Hell is full of conflict, and the Third Circles fight all the time so they're expecting people to try to kill them.
Last question for the evening, does Malfeas still have any authority over the other Yozi, would they even nominally listen to his orders, or did he loose even the pretence of respect in the war.
Nominally all the Yozi in hell accept his leadership. Effectively this depends on the Yozi in question. Malfeas could order until his last layer crumbles to dust but nothing will stop Adorjan from going about her rounds
Nominally all the Yozi in hell accept his leadership. Effectively this depends on the Yozi in question. Malfeas could order until his last layer crumbles to dust but nothing will stop Adorjan from going about her rounds or Isidoros from going wherever he damn well pleases (other than 'out of Malfeas' of course).
Circles.
I dunno.
If he's loud enough, he can at least divert her away from somewhere!
Right, so they'd listen as far as it didn't contradict their inherent nature, which means TED never actually listens. Or more accurately listens in painstaking detail, so he can contradict the intent if the order to the best of his ability
FTFYThe reason the Ebon Dragon is in charge of the Reclamation and the various attempts to escape Malfeas is because the Yozi in general know he's going to spend every moment of his existence ramming himself against the bars until his souls break anyway because he can't not do that. So why not just make it his job and be done with it?
What the fuck did she find that shocked her so much? They're the Priests of Cecelyne, hypocrisy is what they do.
I'm thinking that they can melt down demons into raw XP, which they then drink to become more powerful.
It's because she totally isn't Cio from Kill Six Billion Demons.
What the fuck did she find that shocked her so much? They're the Priests of Cecelyne, hypocrisy is what they do.
I'm thinking that they can melt down demons into raw XP, which they then drink to become more powerful.
She totally isn't. I don't follow KSBD.
(You're the second person to claim she's a reference to something I don't know about - @Aleph also alleged she was a reference to something else I wasn't familiar with)
I havn't seen it completly fleshed out, but the twelve main ones work perfectly fine as third circles.I've often seen people give the example that an individual yozi is equivalent to the entire greek pantheon. But something that's bugged for a while is precisely what that means.
Clearly the primary jouten is Mount Olympus and Zeus is the fetich soul. Poseidon and Hades are the second and third souls. But here is where I run into issues. Who are Zeus' 2nd circles? Are all 12 of the Olympians 3rd circle souls, or would they better fit as second circle souls? Etc etc. Has anyone ever fleshed this sort of thing out as an example?
Hades isn't actually one of the TwelveI've often seen people give the example that an individual yozi is equivalent to the entire greek pantheon. But something that's bugged for a while is precisely what that means.
Clearly the primary jouten is Mount Olympus and Zeus is the fetich soul. Poseidon and Hades are the second and third souls. But here is where I run into issues. Who are Zeus' 2nd circles? Are all 12 of the Olympians 3rd circle souls, or would they better fit as second circle souls? Etc etc. Has anyone ever fleshed this sort of thing out as an example?
While he isn't one of the Twelve, any hypothetical write up of the 12 Olympians as a Yozi should probably have 13-15 3rd circles anyway (because you can't ignore Hades and there's the Dionysus/Hestia stuff).Hades isn't actually one of the Twelve
Or sometimes he is! The Twelve Olympians are inconsistent.
You would probably pick a whole slew of lesser divinities, ascended mortals and other demigods for the 2CDs. Like, say, all the Muses could be 2CDs of Apollo, if you want to be straightforward about it.
That said "Greek Pantheon as a Yozi" is a handy metaphor. It's not something anyone's ever really tried to flesh out because, well, Greek Myth is not Exalted and so cannot perfectly fit in Exalted's framework.