Erien
God's Weakest Soldier
- Location
- Georgia
- Pronouns
- He/Him
That seems... harsh?
Fate/Clusterfuck (Fate/Stay Night)
- Thread starter Erien
- Start date
- Mature Fantasy Modern
[X] [Get in the way of Mordred's sword]
- Location
- Washington
[X] [Use a Command Seal] (Two Remain)
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It's only a phantom pain. Better a dream than in real life, and he learned an important lesson about staying out of berserkers slash Zone... Unless he tackles Mordreds in which case he has learned nothing.
- Location
- Philippines
[X] [Tackle her]
As Shirou we are obligated to make the dumbest heroic choices that gets us the girls.
As Shirou we are obligated to make the dumbest heroic choices that gets us the girls.
The problem is we don't get a do over due to stupidity if Shirou doesn't die. Stupidity can be fun only when it's not at the cost of another person and mental harm to the protag that can't be undone.
I feel like tackling her is going to get Shirou injured... again.
- and everyone going 'Shirou you idiot why do you keep doing this?!'
Poor Shirou, tries to save others and everyone blames him and not the people trying to kill him and his loved ones.
Even if it halts her for a few moments that buys time to grab Ayako and call others.
- and everyone going 'Shirou you idiot why do you keep doing this?!'
Poor Shirou, tries to save others and everyone blames him and not the people trying to kill him and his loved ones.
Even command seals cause most servants to struggle to work against them and Mordred is no Saber.
Even if it halts her for a few moments that buys time to grab Ayako and call others.
Erien
God's Weakest Soldier
- Location
- Georgia
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Why... would he stay away from his own servant?
- Location
- The wrong battlefield
- Pronouns
- She/Her
MORDRED TIME MORDRED TIME
Mordy time is the best time
[X] [Call out her name]
Tackling her seems unlikely imo and probable to lead to a similar outcome as jumping in front of the sword. That seems like a very poor choice, imo; Clarent would probably go straight through and kill both Shirou and Ayako, and I'm personally very against making stupid decisions to force a Taiga Dojo savescum.
Mordy time is the best time
[X] [Call out her name]
Tackling her seems unlikely imo and probable to lead to a similar outcome as jumping in front of the sword. That seems like a very poor choice, imo; Clarent would probably go straight through and kill both Shirou and Ayako, and I'm personally very against making stupid decisions to force a Taiga Dojo savescum.
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I'm not saying stay away all the time, just keep a certain distance on a battlefield. It like, if saber is charging up Excalibur, you don't stand in front of her. You don't try to ride CasCu's Wickerman. You don't stand in Mordreds Slash Zone. Kairi does a good job of this, always giving Mordred space to, well, Slash and Smash. Until that one battle he couldn't.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Hm. Now here's my question: What provoked this? Mordred isn't a random butcher, she's a missile. Why did asking for her name provoke a violent response? Why is she suddenly trying to kill this random civilian?
[X] [Get in the way of Mordred's sword]
We have zero room for error, and I'd honestly rather go for a reset. If Ayako dies, Shirou's going to be wreck and we'll have a ton of issues from her 'dissapearing'.
[X] [Get in the way of Mordred's sword]
We have zero room for error, and I'd honestly rather go for a reset. If Ayako dies, Shirou's going to be wreck and we'll have a ton of issues from her 'dissapearing'.
Erien
God's Weakest Soldier
- Location
- Georgia
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I mean, she was injured and dying on the ground...
A good question indeed.
Spart117MC
Amateur human
- Location
- Cali
The clues might be in the Camlann dream, which has a number of discrepancies from how we know events played out for regular Mordred.
For one Artoria isn't there on the hill with Mordred, Mordred is calling out for her 'mother' rather than her 'father', she's pinned to the ground by Rhongomyniad rather than standing, and if I'm not mistaken the slash that decapitates Shirou was the lethal counterblow Mordred was supposed to deliver to Artoria.
Then there's the one armed knight with blond hair so light that it borders on white. That sounds to me a lot like Bedivere from the Camelot singularity. Also supporting the notion that our Mordred is the one whose Artoria ended up becoming the Lion King is the fact that she's a Berserker. In the Camelot singularity Goddess Rhongomyniad granted Mordred the gift of "Rampage."
How that might explain our Mordred's current actions however is currently beyond me.
That seems a tad optimistic given that Mordred is both a trained knight of Camelot and a magically empowered Berserker.
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Camlann dream. Achilles berserker would be the same with the right dream, same with Hercules dreaming of Hera driving him to kill his family. Turns Mordred Missile into Mordred Napalm. Doesn't help that this mordred seems to have had a rougher end than normal.
Also, she might have decapitated shirou because of the presence of Avalon in his body triggering the curse.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
No? Arthur did slip away from where she fought Mordred before collapsing. Pretty sure that's how it went, because the whole Beddie thing is that Arthur's lying beside a tree when she tells him to return the sword.
That doesn't match up at all. If Avalon triggers "This is Arthur", we would've been stabbed already. We have seen Mordred barely aknowlege us before. This is only happening now.
Honestly, the easiest explanation is that this is Morgana Interference. This whole state is how she programmed Mordred: she went into Camlann, and has been acting since summoned, as completely disconnected from reality except for killing her father. But the main thing stopping that is Circe is currently intervening. The Grand Caster is hanging around Shirou as a teacher. Why is Le Fay able to mess with us? Even if this is some kind of automatic, pre-programmed response to our dream-intrusion of Mordred's past, why didn't Circe step in and why is Mordred suddenly trying to kill Ayako?
Does Mordred think she's killing Guinevere or something?
Erien
God's Weakest Soldier
- Location
- Georgia
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Indeed, Bedivere being there is normal, as is Arthur wandering off to uh... die.
- Location
- Hollister
[X] [Call out her name]
- Location
- La Serena, Chile
[X] [Use a Command Seal] (Two Remain)
The situation is damned.
I don't want Shirou to get more hurt. I even More don't want Ayako to die.
Right now she is in a Maniac state, so I really doubt calling her name would work, and may not even able to hear us.
Tackling her is out of question. She most likely won't even feel him.
Getting in the way may work, or Mordred may be incapable of seeing him right now.
But using a Command Seal should work.
When Shirou used one with Saber during their fight with Medea, Artoria got paralyzed long enough to be hit with Rule Breaker.
And Mordred (at least Saber) has a lesser Magic Resistance and her state of mind may be all over the place may allow the command to work better.
Shirou uses a Command Spell while screaming STOP! It should work, at minimum, to slow down Mordred movement, allowing Shirou to grab Ayako out of the way and time for help to arrive.
The situation is damned.
I don't want Shirou to get more hurt. I even More don't want Ayako to die.
Right now she is in a Maniac state, so I really doubt calling her name would work, and may not even able to hear us.
Tackling her is out of question. She most likely won't even feel him.
Getting in the way may work, or Mordred may be incapable of seeing him right now.
But using a Command Seal should work.
When Shirou used one with Saber during their fight with Medea, Artoria got paralyzed long enough to be hit with Rule Breaker.
And Mordred (at least Saber) has a lesser Magic Resistance and her state of mind may be all over the place may allow the command to work better.
Shirou uses a Command Spell while screaming STOP! It should work, at minimum, to slow down Mordred movement, allowing Shirou to grab Ayako out of the way and time for help to arrive.
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Mordred has B+ strength as a saber. Berserker is A Rank strength probably. If Tackle moves mordred an inch rather than say, seeing shirou punted through a wall, I will be surprised.
[X] [Call out her name]
What's Madness Enhancement? Sounds like a pushover. Good luck Shirou.
What's Madness Enhancement? Sounds like a pushover. Good luck Shirou.
Spart117MC
Amateur human
- Location
- Cali
Mordred's supposed to be dead by the time Artoria wanders off though, isn't she?
Yeah but Bedievre usually has both his arms. Him being down one is supposed to be one of those identifying features of singularity Bedievre.
Erien
God's Weakest Soldier
- Location
- Georgia
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Unspecified in Fate actually, we just know that was the mortal blow she took with the lance.
In Arthurian legend he loses an arm/hand. Being Arthurian legend, where it happens is fairly random. But him being an amputee is not just a Camelot thing amigo.
... Things are also fucky though, I must say. I would suggest trying to untangle things as they come. But I will say at least that isn't meant to be a lead up to Camelot. Just to avoid confusion.
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Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
It is specifically in the FGO Servant Profile, Bond 2, that Bedievere being a part of the Round Table, a general, and a knight was incredibly remarkable because he was one-armed.
So it's the other way around: A key determination of this Mordred being a modified Singularity Saint Graph would be seeing Bedie with the silver hand.