Fate/Clusterfuck (Fate/Stay Night)

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Alucard Bellsing said:
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The thing is, from what i see Zouken is the type of villain who corrupt and destroy everything its touches.

Erien said:
May become a regular thing in omakes.
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silentorphan said:
Every time the Fate cast gets swept into traditional fantasy, it's always a train wreck, whether it's a D&D tabletop session or if they've been stuffed into The Lord of the Rings.
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"roll 1d100 to keep Ilya from pinning herself on Shirou. I need her to busy heal and use her alchemy to reattach the limb, not try to play weird pervert version of Bonesaw."

"roll 1d20 to resist the God Bard-tier of Shirou's charm" "Failed, you join the sisterhood of shirou's wives with the rest of the party as well, one of his wives. Here is schedule of homemaking classes by Medea and report to Ayako next morning" "Damn.... atleast the traits and bonus is nice though. and the benefits.."
 
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Alucard Bellsing said:
Yeah that's the bigger problem. Even if he manage to be a good person despite living with Zouken, the old leech would never let him become too independant and would probably 'educate him.' The only reason I could see him let Shinji train to try to free Sakura is for the fun of playing with his food later and while Zouken is evil, he is not Kotomine he likes to see other suffers but it's not the only thing that matters to him.
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It was mentioned in the VN that the whole point was that Sakura needed to break and lose all faith in humanity, which her earlier torment meant that nothing Zouken did to her could reach her emotional core no matter what she did, she would literally die before she broke.

So he introduces Shinji as a loving, ignorant brother who was to be her only refuge from hell, while sowing the seeds of an inferiority complex and encouraging his superiority complex.

THEN he broke Shinji, had Shinji rape Sakura and...it didn't work because Sakura had latched onto Shirou instead, which Shinji didn't recognize and Zouken noticed too late.

The whole thing was to make her compatible with the Black Grail, but Sakura had negative self esteem, so barring a route where Shirou falls for Sakura,she found it impossible to break
 
I'm really sorry for Rin, but Ayako steamrolled into Shirou's life like no other, and both Sakura and Taiga have been long time companions.
Ayako pretty much took what could have been Rin's place.
But hey, she has Baeber so....
 
Too bad, we will take Baeber too as well. Someone need to be the tank and do the heavy hitting you know. Cant abandoned that excaliblast.

But yeah, we had neglected her and baeber long enough, lets check and go to them. You know, just in case, and try less likely to get a variation of that "baeber stab us" ending
 
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Rancorious said:
Saber justs runs up, kicks Archer in the dick, and excaliblasts the whole compound.
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all the more reason to approach her then. you know, to not get on the wrong end of the excaliblast
Martin Bajar said:
Cause Ayako needs more for her harem
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Ok for real, is this a joke, or is there a trend of a joke that i didnt know? Cause i kept seeing the "Oh, its not Male MC's harem, its actually [insert female character]'s harem. Surprise!(sometime even the "Oh, Male MC is just a beard for the harem that ackchyually are [insert female character]'s harem")" in many fics and quests now. Like, what is going on? :???:
Just, being confused here cause this is even in a work where theres harem that actually a harem(as in, like the male mc did have it, instead of the anime/manga's being "wishy-washy to pick which").
 
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last admiral said:
Ok for real, is this a joke, or is there a trend of a joke that i didnt know? Cause i kept seeing the "Oh, its not Male MC's harem, its actually [insert female character]'s harem. Surprise!(sometime even the "Oh, Male MC is just a beard for the harem that ackchyually are [insert female character]'s harem")" in many fics and quests now. Like, what is going on? :???:
Just, being confused here cause this is even in a work where theres harem that actually a harem(as in, like the male mc did have it, instead of the anime/manga's being "wishy-washy to pick which").
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Part of it, I think, stems from some of the LNs endings where the girls (either Rin or Sakura) are obviously the centerpiece of whatever group is at the end, so people make the obvious joke. It's also an easy way to joke that one of the female leads is more charismatic or attractive then then notional ML since they've 'stolen' the MLs harem magnet status.

Plus on a more meta level - a lot of the people writing these probably grew up with more stereotypical harem comedy series and now, when writing there own takes, decide to mix things up.

That's my theory, at least.
 
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