[x] It won't bring Agnimon back, however his reincarnation… would be better off with you than some random tree of rebirth. When the time comes, use the space-time stone to capture her..
-[x] Later on.
I;m starting to think revenge will never come at this rate given how circumstances keep aligning for her to get away with her continued existence.
her luck will run out eventually. and that's all it actually is.Luna was a rookie while she was an Ult and apparently Luna out ranks her now. And that's despite her having a legendary spirit.
her luck will run out eventually. and that's all it actually is.Luna was a rookie while she was an Ult and apparently Luna out ranks her now. And that's despite her having a legendary spirit.
At the rate things are going we're going to be hitting mega and still not capable of doing anything about her. Unless she does something monumentally stupid like destroy another factions tree of reincarnation which even the gloaming wouldn't have enough sway to stop that retribution she's going to get to get off with basically a few punches to the face and that it.
At the rate things are going we're going to be hitting mega and still not capable of doing anything about her. Unless she does something monumentally stupid like destroy another factions tree of reincarnation which even the gloaming wouldn't have enough sway to stop that retribution she's going to get to get off with basically a few punches to the face and that it.
you misunderstand if we encounter her outside of the tournaments we are fully in our rights to break her in half. this tournament being the source of money to fix Fridgemon is the ONLY reason we don't just take the DQ and murder her.
if we encounter her outside of this tournament she is a deadmon. Which is why we are saying that she is so lucky that we have to play by the rules in this situation because if we encounter her in any other situation we can rip her head off.
We don't have to play too much to the politics she isn't even all that important to her own faction Luna has gained more influence then her in a fraction of the time. While Verge is a RK in training. Will there probably be diplomatic issues maybe but we don't care about that.
you misunderstand if we encounter her outside of the tournaments we are fully in our rights to break her in half. this tournament being the source of money to fix Fridgemon is the ONLY reason we don't just take the DQ and murder her.
if we encounter her outside of this tournament she is a deadmon. Which is why we are saying that she is so lucky that we have to play by the rules in this situation because if we encounter her in any other situation we can rip her head off.
Two words, Bulwark neutrality. They are not at war with the Gloaming and aren't willing to go for it for a long long time, so if you wanna go for her at this time you are risking a fallout between faction and paying a steep price. If we were still with the host we'd be able to go at her and non one would really call bull but now we can't
We don't have to play too much to the politics she isn't even all that important to her own faction Luna has gained more influence then her in a fraction of the time. While Verge is a RK in training. Will there probably be diplomatic issues maybe but we don't care about that.
She doesn't need to be a big figure, any faction will use the death of even the most weakest of canon fodder in situation where they are not at war for politics. It's also not just the gloaming we have to worry about but the view of other factions, Verg's action will be reflected onto the bulwark so if he just kill someone whilst they are neutral it will look badly and will lead to strained relations. No amount of she had it coming is going to work here.
Even as RK or Sovereign it's still not a wise idea to do something which can start undermine the faction we currently work with.
Two words, Bulwark neutrality. They are not at war with the Gloaming and aren't willing to go for it for a long long time, so if you wanna go for her at this time you are risking a fallout between faction and paying a steep price. If we were still with the host we'd be able to go at her and non one would really call bull but now we can't
She doesn't need to be a big figure, any faction will use the death of even the most weakest of canon fodder in situation where they are not at war for politics. It's also not just the gloaming we have to worry about but the view of other factions, Verg's action will be reflected onto the bulwark so if he just kill someone whilst they are neutral it will look badly and will lead to strained relations. No amount of she had it coming is going to work here.
Even as RK or Sovereign it's still not a wise idea to do something which can start undermine the faction we currently work with.
Glooming isn't going to start a war with Bulwark over her. They are currently already on the back foot with the host. The last thing they wanna do is add Builwark to the war. And we already know that she doesn't have many supporters in the faction and we also know that she has a lot of enemies in the faction . Including Luna our sister whom hates her and is just waiting for the excuse to off her.
they aren't in the position to declare war especially over some thing this " minor". Leopardmon is fully aware that verge and sparks want her dead primarly and has not said not to.
put yourself in their shoes for the moment. Would you try to threaten bulwark when the Host is already pushing you on all fronts? The addition of Bulwark to the war would put Gloom to route untill they can beg assistance from independent city states whom might decide not to get involved in protecting a losing side. Especially over someone like her?especially if we say give them back the legendary spirit of wind and some other conssesions?
and Leopardmon is well aware that this is extremely important to him and that Thresh and Ardat are only here for him. That's two RK's and a demon lord and their assorted hangers on . Aka a small faction on their own.
If Verge finds her on road he can kill her with very few consequences.
as for neutral factions? Give sparks 5 minutes in front a screen. A long term mission of vengeance against a few mon for having their home brutally slaughtered. Hand them back the spirit as well as a few other concessions and they'll back down.
[X] It won't bring Agnimon back, however his reincarnation… would be better off with you than some random tree of rebirth. When the time comes, use the space-time stone to capture her..
[X] Later on.
So to take my mind off the the anger inducing headache that is Repulsa continued existence I'm going to ask some questions. What sort of digimon are native to Malkimon city? How well are our boys liked there? Is Sparks going to bother competing or is he just gonna sit this one out and start messing with stuff in the background?
[] It won't bring Agnimon back, however his reincarnation… would be better off with you than some random tree of rebirth. When the time comes, use the space-time stone to capture her..
[] Later on.
So to take my mind off the the anger inducing headache that is Repulsa continued existence I'm going to ask some questions. What sort of digimon are native to Malkimon city? How well are our boys liked there? Is Sparks going to bother competing or is he just gonna sit this one out and start messing with stuff in the background?
well we know it's a fighting arena so probably a bunch of martial arts and warrior types. Gaomon will probably be common.
last I remember they were doing well in the Arena but weren't really stars. They are normal mon after all and not the usual monsters Verge surrounds himself with nowadays.
he is going to be trying to qualify in the qualifying round and considering his stats and bullshit he's probably going to qualify.
now here's my question if boy evolves on the hunt and we train him do you think you'll be ready to try the qualifying rounds? he'd be a somewhat fresh ultimate (with time dilation I would say you could probably get a month of training at worst.) but it would be a good place for him to get experience in with the no killing rule. Give him a chance to really experience the fact that Verge's training is worth it
[X] It won't bring Agnimon back, however his reincarnation… would be better off with you than some random tree of rebirth. When the time comes, use the space-time stone to capture her..
-[X] Later on.
I will say this just because we capture her doesn't mean that we will not kill her. However we shouldn't try too hard to keep her alive when the time comes. If we can manage it fabulous if not then I don't think too many people will cry over her death.
Regardless I'm less worried about her right now and more worried about Host falling apart with Orphanmon losing it and past self mom doing something to get HER son back. Things are going to get real hot soon...
Glooming isn't going to start a war with Bulwark over her. They are currently already on the back foot with the host. The last thing they wanna do is add Builwark to the war. And we already know that she doesn't have many supporters in the faction and we also know that she has a lot of enemies in the faction . Including Luna our sister whom hates her and is just waiting for the excuse to off her.
Start a war no, start using it to rally the other faction into not trusting them yes. Verg actually has some prestige in the bulwark and is one of the top dogs even if he doesn't act like it. They can play off the idea of if a high up officer just kill someone on their side whilst still neutral ( only like the Host and maybe Madam will actually know what the gloaming did to them) he might do it again.
put yourself in their shoes for the moment. Would you try to threaten bulwark when the Host is already pushing you on all fronts? The addition of Bulwark to the war would put Gloom to route untill they can beg assistance from independent city states whom might decide not to get involved in protecting a losing side. Especially over someone like her?especially if we say give them back the legendary spirit of wind and some other conssesions?
Nope I'd use it to sow the seed of doubt and as a pretence as to why you should not trust the Bulwark as much. Not everyone in the server is going to know what she did to us and if we try to spread news as to what her actions were it might be seen as the Bulwark giving us the go ahead if they don't punish us severely. Verg having all rights to want to end her and her deserving it still won't matter.
and Leopardmon is well aware that this is extremely important to him and that Thresh and Ardat are only here for him. That's two RK's and a demon lord and their assorted hangers on . Aka a small faction on their own.
Thresh really isn't here for Verg and more because Verg put him here. Ardat just doesn't have many places to hide herself until she reaches mega. Leopardmon would definitely want to be rid of a mon like Repulsa as she is a symbol of the type of mon they hate the most but you could probably say that about a lot of the mon on the gloaming side and yet he hasn't tried getting rid of those yet in the manner we are trying to do.
There are only two roads I can see where that is the case, one she is far way from any mon and somehow Verg and Sparks happen to manage to find and surprised attack her or two when the war happens.
as for neutral factions? Give sparks 5 minutes in front a screen. A long term mission of vengeance against a few mon for having their home brutally slaughtered. Hand them back the spirit as well as a few other concessions and they'll back down.
I don't think Sparks would be able to spin it into any sort of way that stop consequences, maybe put us in a sympathetic light at best if they believe what he says but ultimately you can't have a high ranking officer of you faction attacking mon of a faction you aren't at war with regardless of their own personal feelings.
Also can't exactly give the wind spirit back per say, the temple she took it from is got wrecked and now the remnant of it's people have scattered, as far as we know there is no central authority figure anymore to hand it off to.
I will say this just because we capture her doesn't mean that we will not kill her. However we shouldn't try too hard to keep her alive when the time comes. If we can manage it fabulous if not then I don't think too many people will cry over her death.
Again the best time to do that is when the the bulwark is no longer neutral which will take a long time. The only time no one will ever cry foul is when she has become an active enemy of the Bulwark. Unlike most cases Repulsa will actually leave evidence behind in the form of the wind spirit.
Regardless I'm less worried about her right now and more worried about Host falling apart with Orphanmon losing it and past self mom doing something to get HER son back. Things are going to get real hot soon...
I mean ultimately if past self mom tries anything to get us back not much we can do besides sit on our hands and wait for the Bulwark to talk it out. That or pray Sparks is with us when she does and jorgess to a mega to escape but if she isn't trying to activity kill so that might be difficult to do.
[X] It won't bring Agnimon back, however his reincarnation… would be better off with you than some random tree of rebirth. When the time comes, use the space-time stone to capture her..
-[X] Later on.
If killing isn't allowed, then unspokenly mon-napping probably wouldn't be either.
Time to get the bro back in action, after all the shit that happened to him getting the mon that was an older brother to him and Sparks in some form back would be a great thing.
It's good to remember that Verge is aware that the reincarnation won't be anything more than a reflection of his friend. Like him, but without the memories or bonds. NGL, that'll hurt him a fair bit too.
if she actually managed to capture and contain his core data ... wouldn't that mean he's not dead? Granted he's probably not going to be in the best condition considering he's been inside her for very long time (phraseing) .
My main problem with trying to capture her at the tournament is we might get disqualified or get the gloaming hot on our tail. Even Verg manages to contain the ocean of boiling fury that dwells within and not end her afterwards I doubt we can just hand he back over after we're done and the Gloaming will stop.
The line there is pretty blurred, but yeah the Gloaming would not be happy. Losing a LW is a big deal not just militarily but also for propogranda purposes.
regardless we're going to need to ask for confirmation on their end before we can agree to do that. Yggdrasil dammit of course our chance to finally end her comes at a tournament where we can't afford to be disqualified.
Technically speaking Verge very much can afford to be disqualified. He's okay with just getting cybernetics for Frigimon, and his want for revenge is stronger than his martial pride.
Honestly? If Verge does manage to get her at his mercy during the tourney it'll probably lead to another vote whether to kill her right then and there. His anger towards her is strong enough to shake his conviction from this vote.
At the rate things are going we're going to be hitting mega and still not capable of doing anything about her. Unless she does something monumentally stupid like destroy another factions tree of reincarnation which even the gloaming wouldn't have enough sway to stop that retribution she's going to get to get off with basically a few punches to the face and that it.
... there is an opporutunity to kill her right here. Remember, Verge can always get the bits to help Frigimon later. This isn't exactly an operation to save her life.
Also, remember. Leopardmon's flat out said he's waiting until Verge and Thresh to hit Mega before taking concrete action against the Gloaming.
She's important enough that the Gloaming would pull out the stops to heal her, but remember. Verge is piggy-backing off Pit's Flames Of Wrath. Those do lasting damage and would at the very least put her out of commission for a while.
Eh... not technically right now. Bulwark neutrality and all. However if Verge did go about and kill her Leopardmon would shield him from the consequences as best he could. Would mean paying some rather massive reparations though.
Very much this. Astamon has his plans in motion already and he wouldn't want to jeopardize them by starting a war with Bulwark. Even without considering their recent acquisitions of several dinosaur Megas. BlackImperialDramon in particular could thrash his most powerful dark general in a straight up fight. And Leopardmon himself is technically a heavyweight himself.
What sort of digimon are native to Malkimon city? How well are our boys liked there? Is Sparks going to bother competing or is he just gonna sit this one out and start messing with stuff in the background?
Sparks didn't receive an invitation, and doesn't have much interest in competing. He'd only enter something like this if he was guaranteed to win. He IS totally going to bet a lot on matches though.
The city has mons of all types there, as it's kind of a hub for various mon that want to compete and fight. Martial artist and combat species, as well as Virus types would be most prevalent. You won't find too many plant or holy digimon for example.
Bug-boys are liked pretty well, though Warren is more popular than Scourge despite the latter's higher prestige, position and better record. Generally Warren's fights are more entertaining.
Again the best time to do that is when the the bulwark is no longer neutral which will take a long time. The only time no one will ever cry foul is when she has become an active enemy of the Bulwark. Unlike most cases Repulsa will actually leave evidence behind in the form of the wind spirit.
Not as long as you might think. Verge helped secure a traning area with accelerated time after all.
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Adhoc vote count started by drexal15 on Jan 19, 2021 at 5:24 PM, finished with 38 posts and 16 votes.
[X] It won't bring Agnimon back, however his reincarnation… would be better off with you than some random tree of rebirth. When the time comes, use the space-time stone to capture her..
-[x] Later on.
[X] It won't bring Agnimon back, however his reincarnation… would be better off with you than some random tree of rebirth. When the time comes, use the space-time stone to capture her..
-[X] At the tournament.
[X] Agnimon's dead. You've made peace with that fact, bringing something back won't be him. The situation isn't like what happened with Fu. You're going to tear Repulsa apart, not capture her.
-[X] When Bulwark comes into conflict with the Gloaming.
[X] It won't bring Agnimon back, however his reincarnation… would be better off with you than some random tree of rebirth. When the time comes, use the space-time stone to capture her..
-[X] Clarify if it's allowed or not . If it is do it otherwise do it later
[X] It won't bring Agnimon back, however his reincarnation… would be better off with you than some random tree of rebirth. When the time comes, use the space-time stone to capture her..
Mrm, I'll be locking the vote tomorrow since it's a pretty important one.
It's good to remember that Verge is aware that the reincarnation won't be anything more than a reflection of his friend. Like him, but without the memories or bonds. NGL, that'll hurt him a fair bit too.
Sadly, no. The Flamemon/Agnimon that Verge knew is dead.
Maybe with some luck Verg might be able to install some more realistic notions of heroism in this life then rather then wide eyed naivety he had form the his past life.
The line there is pretty blurred, but yeah the Gloaming would not be happy. Losing a LW is a big deal not just militarily but also for propogranda purposes.
Technically speaking Verge very much can afford to be disqualified. He's okay with just getting cybernetics for Frigimon, and his want for revenge is stronger than his martial pride.
Honestly? If Verge does manage to get her at his mercy during the tourney it'll probably lead to another vote whether to kill her right then and there. His anger towards her is strong enough to shake his conviction from this vote.
That's even if she makes it far enough for Verg to get to her to begin with. Spirit warriors are tough sure but looking at the roster they are actually below a lot of the others thing in this competition.
Oh but she'll do it after the fight when we can't wack her anymore. Whilst it would be funny if Verg got to fight her and beat her so hard she became to scared to even speak she doesn't seem like the type.
Very much this. Astamon has his plans in motion already and he wouldn't want to jeopardize them by starting a war with Bulwark. Even without considering their recent acquisitions of several dinosaur Megas. BlackImperialDramon in particular could thrash his most powerful dark general in a straight up fight. And Leopardmon himself is technically a heavyweight himself.
Then there is Schwartz potentially reaching mega and becoming another demon lord. Unless Ardat picks up the pace I'm not even sure she'll reach mega by the end of this quest.
Sparks didn't receive an invitation, and doesn't have much interest in competing. He'd only enter something like this if he was guaranteed to win. He IS totally going to bet a lot on matches though.
A heavy, rough building material made from a mixture of broken stone or gravel, sand, cement, and water, that can be spread or poured into molds and that forms a mass resembling stone on hardening.
That help?
More seriously. Decapitating the current leadership and installing certain other mons there instead.
Regarding Sparks and money. Uh... Mostly towards his army and the "Reclamation"
I do find it amusing that Leopardmon seems to be perfectly cool with a member of his faction planning to steal an exorbitantly valuable item from a city-state.
I do find it amusing that Leopardmon seems to be perfectly cool with a member of his faction planning to steal an exorbitantly valuable item from a city-state.
I do find it amusing that Leopardmon seems to be perfectly cool with a member of his faction planning to steal an exorbitantly valuable item from a city-state.
I do find it amusing that Leopardmon seems to be perfectly cool with a member of his faction planning to steal an exorbitantly valuable item from a city-state.
I think that is cause he is expecting to go to war with the faction that has it anyways. So if Sparks starts building his personal army now at the very least it'll be more canon fodder to protect his own troops.
