So where do JewelBeemon normally rate on the tier list of Ultimates?

Also, from what Verge can tell, how does Beat now stack up compared to really old normal-ish Ultimates such as MasterTyrannomon, HolyAngemon, and BishopChessmon?

Peak Ultimate, JewelBeemon is to insect-type Digimon as Magna Angemon/Vamdemon are to Angels and Demons respectively.
 
It's stupidly unlikely, but with his new Fire element and monstrous stats, I must ask.

How would Verge and Sparks react if Sparks got Vritramon as his Ultimate form (naturally, without using a Spirit)?
Peak Ultimate, JewelBeemon is to insect-type Digimon as Magna Angemon/Vamdemon are to Angels and Demons respectively.
That answers the first question, but not how he compared to the really old but normal-ish members of those high end species.
 
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That answers the first question, but not how he compared to the really old but normal-ish members of those high end species.

He was an overcapped, overachieving Stingmon to begin with, which is a decently strong species, and then he got peak level evolution modifiers on top of that.

When fully developed, he'll probably be a peer to 'ordinary Megas' (Ones that aren't part of the Big Groups for instance), right now, he should be a match even for mature Ultimates who aren't particularly talented. Okuwamon is only an 'ordinary' Ultimate, in the sense that any 'mon who can get to the Ultimate stage in the first place is 'Ordinary' anyway, and given the fact our bois are managing to leave dents in him even as Champions--pretty sure that our team with Beat as the front-runner is going to dumpster this guy now.
 
He was an overcapped, overachieving Stingmon to begin with, which is a decently strong species, and then he got peak level evolution modifiers on top of that.

When fully developed, he'll probably be a peer to 'ordinary Megas' (Ones that aren't part of the Big Groups for instance), right now, he should be a match even for mature Ultimates who aren't particularly talented. Okuwamon is only an 'ordinary' Ultimate, in the sense that any 'mon who can get to the Ultimate stage in the first place is 'Ordinary' anyway, and given the fact our bois are managing to leave dents in him even as Champions--pretty sure that our team with Beat as the front-runner is going to dumpster this guy now.
Oh, I have no doubt that Beat can stomp Okuwamon right now even solo.

But Okuwamon is a pretty average insect ultimate.

Verge has demonstrated the ability to at a glance get a rough ballpark of how strong a Digimon is, so the question is in terms of rough ballpark, how does Beat stack up against capped ultimates of high tier species who aren't things like Legendary Warriors or Scions.
 
Oh, I have no doubt that Beat can stomp Okuwamon right now even solo.

But Okuwamon is a pretty average insect ultimate.

Verge has demonstrated the ability to at a glance get a rough ballpark of how strong a Digimon is, so the question is in terms of rough ballpark, how does Beat stack up against capped ultimates of high tier species who aren't things like Legendary Warriors or Scions.

He'd have an uphill battle, but I'd imagine he could potentially win. His stats are only marginally lower than Ardat's after all, and she is A Scion.
 
He'd have an uphill battle, but I'd imagine he could potentially win. His stats are only marginally lower than Ardat's after all, and she is A Scion.
True, but that's as a fresh Scion ultimate. We don't really know where the standard caps of top tier Ultimate species lie. But considering the scale of the gap between Ardat (fresh Scion Ultimate) and Astamon (veteran Scion Ultimate) I'd expect they're higher than Ardat's stats when we last saw her.
 
Because 3 of us (Maybe four since Sparks doesn't seems to be not against sparring anymore) love to bash each others face in with tons of Spars.
Sparks apparently picked up enough fighting skills to body the LadyDevimon all over the place with one arm, on a form decidedly agnostic to combat and lower stats.

I reckon we can say he knows how to fight well enough to have a budding Style
 
Sparks apparently picked up enough fighting skills to body the LadyDevimon all over the place with one arm, on a form decidedly agnostic to combat and lower stats.
.....Didn't Sparks just punch her in the face once and then spent the rest of the time chucking fire while laughing?
In short? He bullied/camped her. She came to the fight expecting to dominate a squishy wizard in melee.

Not to get punched in the face, laughed at, then smacked down with fire every time she tried getting back up.
 
Being able to stunlock her is no mean feat though.
I mean considering how high his Str stat was, how Ladydevi was a fresh ult, and the fact she wasn't expecting to be punched in the face AND have it do something from a FlameWizardmon.

I'd say yes it would have been easy to stun her once from both a combination of Wtf and Ow.
 
Even better for Beat even if he doesn't get a natural skill up to surpass Verge in grappling (Jewelbeemon are natural grapplers) than he's already got a teacher good enough with it to regularly suplex Ultimates stronger than him with it.
 
Lulz ensued

A jewel beetle-like Insect Digimon which emits a rainbow-colored radiance. Its prism-like armor, which changes color with the viewing angle, is not only sturdy but also has the effect of dazzling the enemy's eyes

>is not only sturdy

>NATURALLY STURDY

Then you add Beat's masochistic tendencies of face tanking and Digitron and the natural sturdiness fucking SKYROCKETS
Nevermind that, he's basically the Most Obvious Party member now thanks to that iridescence. that's bound to draw attention, especially since I doubt anyone's seen a JewelBeemon like him before.
So in Fate/Grand Order terms, he's got a set of Active Skills like Passionlip* on a Lancer-style Command Deck. (two Quick, one Arts, and two Buster, possibly with a Quick-type Noble Phantasm)
Definitely 4-star Material at the least. maybe 5-star even.

Needless to say, Beat got buff as fuck now.


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I'll explain Passionlip's Skills here.
Her first skill adds Damage Cut from 500-1000 depending on level(3 times, 5 turns), as well as Debuff Immunity for a few turns(3 times, 5 turns).
Her second skill is a Taunt that forces enemies to target her with attacks for one turn, and also comes with a DEF Up effect ranging from 10%-30% depending on level that lasts 1 turn.
Her third skill is one hell of a combo-platter. it boosts ATK and DEF by 10%-30% depending on level(lasts 3 turns), adds a one-time 10% chance to instakill on normal attacks for 3 turns, applies Ignore Invincibility for 3 turns, and can stun the user for a turn as a demerit. (which is why you pop her 1 before her 3, so it can soak the demerit.)

Needless to say, this all adds up to an individual who's at their best in the very thick of it. soaking hits and dealing them. and with her basically 60% DEF Up in tandem with the Damage Cut? Yeah you're gonna be seeing 0 Damage pop up quite a bit.
 
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Less than you'd think, Verge already has the statblock of an 'ordinary' Ultimate right now, and when the button gets pushed for him, things'll get really crazy.
Basically the way I see it is that Verge who takes a crazy long time to move up stages and Sparks who just Armor Digivolved with go Ultimate last but at the same the two of them have enough power multipliers when working together that they'll be able to remain relevant even when Pit also jumps to Ultimate, and this assuming they don't get some kind of jogress between em.

Naturally this mean that when they do go Ultimate they'll both be utter monsters, but thats kind of a given at this point.
 
Basically the way I see it is that Verge who takes a crazy long time to move up stages and Sparks who just Armor Digivolved with go Ultimate last but at the same the two of them have enough power multipliers when working together that they'll be able to remain relevant even when Pit also jumps to Ultimate, and this assuming they don't get some kind of jogress between em.

Naturally this mean that when they do go Ultimate they'll both be utter monsters, but thats kind of a given at this point.
I'm not actually sure if Verge will fall quite as far behind as he did as a Rookie.

Our core being far more stable means that it shouldn't be anywhere close to as difficult to evolve (although probably still more difficult than for a typical Digimon), and this time we actually have Talents that agree with our high caps.

Furthermore, from the sound of things, Pit isn't actually close to evolving yet.

I'm also not actually sure how far away from evolving Sparks is. Beat did a lesser diagonal upgrade and evolved really soon after.
 
As Sparks is now I cannot help but feel MagnaKiddmon fits him a LOT

Pity it's a mega

Although it has a self-centered personality and is often indifferent of its surroundings, it's passionate about things like friendship or gratitude

 
I'm not actually sure if Verge will fall quite as far behind as he did as a Rookie.

Our core being far more stable means that it shouldn't be anywhere close to as difficult to evolve (although probably still more difficult than for a typical Digimon), and this time we actually have Talents that agree with our high caps.

Furthermore, from the sound of things, Pit isn't actually close to evolving yet.

I'm also not actually sure how far away from evolving Sparks is. Beat did a lesser diagonal upgrade and evolved really soon after.
And honestly the talents of Pit like Str are on too BS for a Champion of his tier not like Verge but damn Pit is a swole badass and they will get a rank up at least once before reaching the Ultimate tier.

Thinking about it how close is Verge, Sparks and Pit to rank up. Beat pretty much got some upgrades on his with his rise to ultimate tier.
 
I'm also not actually sure how far away from evolving Sparks is. Beat did a lesser diagonal upgrade and evolved really soon after.
Sparks did an armor evolution that gave him new caps. Beat just underwent a slide evolution to a rare variant.
Sparks apparently picked up enough fighting skills to body the LadyDevimon all over the place with one arm, on a form decidedly agnostic to combat and lower stats.

I reckon we can say he knows how to fight well enough to have a budding Style
In terms of pure skill to skill Sparks actually is worse at melee than her. And a fair bit at that despite being a couple weeks older.

But with that said he has more general fighting experience and more importantly he's really damn good at utilizing strikes of opportunity.

She's going forward half-cocked looking to slap him? Counterpunch.

Her charge gets blocked by Verge making the next stab highly predictable? Parry, use the same motion to smack her across the face with your matchstick, then hit her chest with an explosion.

... which now that I realize it could totally be seen as an innuendo Keke.

Anyway, the point is he doesn't fight fair.
How would Verge and Sparks react if Sparks got Vritramon as his Ultimate form (naturally, without using a Spirit)?
Sparks. "By the tent Holy shit!?"

Verge: "I see... he's strong enough to spar in earnest against now!"
 
In terms of pure skill to skill Sparks actually is worse at melee than her. And a fair bit at that despite being a couple weeks older.

But with that said he has more general fighting experience and more importantly he's really damn good at utilizing strikes of opportunity.

She's going forward half-cocked looking to slap him? Counterpunch.

Her charge gets blocked by Verge making the next stab highly predictable? Parry, use the same motion to smack her across the face with your matchstick, then hit her chest with an explosion.

... which now that I realize it could totally be seen as an innuendo Keke.

Anyway, the point is he doesn't fight fair.
I seriously love the level of thought and depth you're putting into these fight scenes and how characters approach them from their unique perspective and experiences.
 
I seriously love the level of thought and depth you're putting into these fight scenes and how characters approach them from their unique perspective and experiences.
Thanks! I've taken great care into making sure each character has their own way of fighting to make sure things don't get boring. Digimon's huge variety of forms really helps here.

Verge is a hardcore martial artist bear with all that implies. Heavy hits, some grappling and a tank countering style.

Sparks is a tricky magic user with very powerful blasts and a surprising decent right cross, if not a spectacular one.

Beat is a speedy and tough melee fighter with incredibly accurate attacks. He packs deadly single blows and flurries of everything from kicks to his claws. It'll take a bit to get used to his spear though.

Pit is at his best all about attack, a living whirlwind of holy fire and staff strikes/punches that is all about utterly annihilating the enemy.
Yeah, but I mean, also their reaction in regards to that its what Agnimon would have become if he survived.
Ah. Then nostalgia, maybe a tear or two and then anger plus reaffirmation of revenge.
 
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