- Location
- Argentina
Oh, I thought we had come upon one IC
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
- Thread starter DragonParadox
- Start date
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- a song of ice and fire a sword without a hilt d&d 3.5 dungeons & dragons 100% high octane dragon fuel ave corvidae battle action dragon diplomacy best sister bureaucromancy delicious soul-stuff dragon dreams come true dragon ta'veren greatest uncle hubris is a coward's word in defiance of gods and men mammon's folly mutually assured mage's disjunction qm murderhobo top tier coatl
Oh, I thought we had come upon one IC
- Location
- Texas
- Pronouns
- He/Him
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
Aight, gimmie a sec to repost and calc some shite...
Summoning sheet, 1st Month.
1110 HD available total
---1st Month's questioning for True Names---
none, because I fucked up the last month and we questioned people before the schedule, and fuck that
not like we have any significant sources right now anyway
---/spoiler---
-------------------Calculations-----------------------
Total HD: 1110
Target HD:
18 (3 Atropocustras); 72 (8 Erinyes) - Mammon's
14 (1 Dogai), 49 (7 Magaavs), 36 (9 Gaavs), 12 (2 Accomplice Devils) - Asmodeus'
45 (5 Salikotals), 6 (2 Imps), 12 (3 Ink Devils) - Unaffiliated
Remaining HD: 845
----------------End of Calculations----------------
We can summon 845 HD worth of stuff.
I'm rather interested in summoning some Daemonic forces, we need sacrifices.
Elementals and Phoenixes are fluffy, but rather mechanically useless background things.
Summoning sheet, 1st Month.
| Day | HD ceiling |
| 1st | 0 HD |
| 2nd | 0 HD |
| 3rd | 30 HD |
| 4th | 30 HD |
| 5th | 30 HD |
| 6th | 30 HD |
| 7th | 30 HD |
| 8th | 30 HD |
| 9th | 30 HD |
| 10th | 30 HD |
| 11th | 60 HD |
| 12th | 60 HD |
| 13th | 60 HD |
| 14th | 60 HD |
| 15th | 60 HD |
| 16th | 30 HD |
| 17th | 60 HD |
| 18th | 60 HD |
| 19th | 30 HD |
| 20th | 60 HD |
| 21st | 60 HD |
| 22nd | 30 HD |
| 23rd | 30 HD |
| 24th | 30 HD |
| 25th | 30 HD |
| 26th | 0 HD |
| 27th | 30 HD |
| 28th | 30 HD |
| 29th | 60 HD |
| 30th | 60 HD |
| Target | Source | Additional notes |
| 5 Salikotals, 2 Imps, 3 Ink Devils (Unaffiliated) | 13 Salikotals , 9 Ink Devils (Unafiliated), | Initial source (2 steps removed) - 2 Uniilas and assorted devils serving [Asmodeus] summoned from Slavers' Bay, and [Unaffiliated] Devils known to their servants afterwards. |
| 1 Dogai, 7 Magaav, 9 Gaav, 2 Accomplice Devils (Servants of Asmodeus) | 9 Accomplice Devils, 2 Dogai (Servants of Asmodeus), 3 Anygavhaul | Initial source (2 steps removed) - 2 Uniilas and assorted devils serving [Asmodeus] summoned from Slavers' Bay, and [Asmodeus]-affiliated Devils known to their servants afterwards. |
| 3 Atropocustra, 8 Erynies (Servants of Mammon) | 3 Lead Devil, 2 Harvester Devils (Servants of Mammon) | Assorted Mammon's Devils, unknown number of steps removed at this point. |
5x Hellchain Weavers (Bel) - Advodaza
1x Hamatula (Dispater) - Siduri
3x Amnizu (Dispater) - Siduri
6x Bezekira (Dispater) - Siduri
3x Imp (Never summoned) (Dispater) - Siduri
1x Kocrachon (Summoned only once) (Dispater) - Siduri
8x Merregon (Dispater) - Siduri
7x Barbazu (Dispater) - Siduri
1x Phistophilus (Servants Mephistopheles) - (2 steps removed) -- Advodaza eaten by Yss -- 3x Phistophiluses.
1x Hamatula (Dispater) - Siduri
3x Amnizu (Dispater) - Siduri
6x Bezekira (Dispater) - Siduri
3x Imp (Never summoned) (Dispater) - Siduri
1x Kocrachon (Summoned only once) (Dispater) - Siduri
8x Merregon (Dispater) - Siduri
7x Barbazu (Dispater) - Siduri
1x Phistophilus (Servants Mephistopheles) - (2 steps removed) -- Advodaza eaten by Yss -- 3x Phistophiluses.
none, because I fucked up the last month and we questioned people before the schedule, and fuck that
not like we have any significant sources right now anyway
---/spoiler---
-------------------Calculations-----------------------
Total HD: 1110
Target HD:
18 (3 Atropocustras); 72 (8 Erinyes) - Mammon's
14 (1 Dogai), 49 (7 Magaavs), 36 (9 Gaavs), 12 (2 Accomplice Devils) - Asmodeus'
45 (5 Salikotals), 6 (2 Imps), 12 (3 Ink Devils) - Unaffiliated
Remaining HD: 845
----------------End of Calculations----------------
We can summon 845 HD worth of stuff.
I'm rather interested in summoning some Daemonic forces, we need sacrifices.
Elementals and Phoenixes are fluffy, but rather mechanically useless background things.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
72 Erinyes? Where is that coming from? I thought we only had 8 True Names for them?
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
Aye, missed writing in "8" before Erynies. 72 is the HD.
Should be kinda obvious from every other summon having a number before them
- Location
- United States
That's the HD. 72 HD total for the 8 Erinyes.
8 Erinyes * 9 HD each.
EDIT: Faceless'd.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
My powers of observation fail me yet again. 🧐
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
Mind, y'all, that we could reasonably only start summoning more Lejnths starting the next month, we didn't know how well they did this month IC until now.
Hell, they may have been doing terrible, b/c rolls failed, and we won't summon at all, who knows.
Hell, they may have been doing terrible, b/c rolls failed, and we won't summon at all, who knows.
lockingbane
If you're crazy and you know it clap your hands!
- Location
- Waxahachie tx
You deserve all the hugs. You are a good QM
- Location
- Argentina
@DragonParadox , I have a question... how would we come to be even more successful at convincing Mammon's Erinyes to switch to our side?
What is that they don't see in us that they decide to keep working for the Noodle?
What is that they don't see in us that they decide to keep working for the Noodle?
- Location
- Germany
We could beat up Mammon himself, instead of an aspect.
I mean, right now most people will assume he's still more powerful than us, and that is most likely true.
- Location
- Reno Nv
- Location
- Argentina
By that reasoning alone they would be following other archfiends, not the cowardly lord of greed
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
A coherent long-term strategy. We talk a big game, and deliver on it, but the Erinyes who switched over did it because they agree on our messaging and priorities (law and order) as much as they did our virtues (winning).
There's also the fact that Mammon isn't like, the only devil who's weakness is his insatiable greed. While we view Erinyes as all about fulfilling their duty, that doesn't exactly preclude avarice. And, rightfully so, Mammon can afford to pay them more. All the wealth of Hell passes through his realm at one time or another, through graft and corruption if not in trade or taxes.
From talking to the ones who do join you the answer mostly seems to be if they believe a single mortal can stand up against the might of Hell, it your vision means something against the foes you made.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
So the ones who joined us are all madlads at the end of their rope who want to light the fires of revolution. Firebrands, if they were exercising absolutely iron-clad control in how they lit those fires.
Basically we are getting the crazies, is what you're saying (yes, the stoic, dutiful and precise Erinyes in our forces? That's the crazies). The normal Erinyes is either a blood knight or a nihilist, amirite?
- Location
- Argentina
So Artemis was right and we need to rob Mammon of his lunch money again until the lesson sticks.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
No, what he's saying is we need to be able to kill an intermediate God. Which usually requires a set of unique circumstances to happen.
Or rather, we probably just need to force Asmodeus to sack him for incompetence as a direct result of our actions, which is near enough to death for a devil that the kinds of devils who wouldn't join us before would afterwards. Because that takes cajones still.
- Location
- Argentina
Which basically amounts to antagonizing Mammon enough that he end ups dead or fired, yes.
I phrased it way more vaguely, though.
- Location
- Germany
He's still just the second worst Archduke.
Levistus in Stygia has been sitting uselessly in a block of ice, ever since rebelling against Big Red ages ago.
He's not even invested with an Archduke's power, just swimming around with half of his subordinates trying to get his job and the other half spying on the situation for the other Archfiends.
I mean, he technically has the job and some people listen to his telepathic commands, but it's pretty pathetic.
Edit: This is true in D&D 3.5, not necessarily in ASWAH.
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Or both, often both.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
That, to me, seems to make his and Mammon's domains the proverbial "swamp". He doesn't even promise to drain it for anyone, it's just the swamp he created to allow others to promise to drain it. It poses no strain on his own personal resources, both provide a distraction, one where everything is held together only by a polite fiction of law but virtually anarchy, just like a real ocean, and the other containing so much wealth that it is actually a detriment to its ruler, since he is too distracted by it and everyone else wants it for their own purposes.
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