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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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I really do want to get started on equipment creatures, but for some things we actually don't need real equipment creatures, just sufficiently small creatures, making sufficiently small cleric/sorcerer creatures, could allow them to ride a legionnaire, adding a bit of magic to said legionnaire, the ideal would probably be something like a small snake acting as a necklace, or a bigger snake acting as a belt, and casting spells for the legionnaire.

I'm not sure which templates would be best for this, although the plant template should probably be Fungal, as the flavor text about Fungal creatures, say that they're normally fully content to just spend all day sitting around thinking, so combined with how snakes already like spending hours, just coiled up around something warm, even an intelligent Fungal creature snake, probably wouldn't mind spending all day curled up around a human.

I can't remember what the best intelligence template is, but aside from that, I'm just thinking we could make Tiny Viper fungal-creature cleric-creatures who act as belts for Legionnaires, I'm not sure what snake or plant to use for the sorcerer belts, Vipers clearly don't work, what with their 2 CHA score.

Having even a level 1 caster in your pocket(maybe literally) would be great for the legion, and as long as we keep them at only 1-2HD(they're riding around on a Legionnaire anyway, and are small and hard to hit, so they shouldn't very often take a hit) and at low CR, we can make them with corpses, which mean they wont be all that expensive.
 
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tarrangar said:
I really do want to get started on equipment creatures, but for some things we actually don't need real equipment creatures, just sufficiently small creatures, making sufficiently small cleric/sorcerer creatures, could allow them to ride a legionnaire, adding a bit of magic to said legionnaire, the ideal would probably be something like a small snake acting as a necklace, or a bigger snake acting as a belt, and casting spells for the legionnaire.

I'm not sure which templates would be best for this, although the plant template should probably be Fungal, as the flavor text about Fungal creatures, say that they're normally fully content to just spend all day sitting around thinking, so combined with how snakes already like spending hours, just coiled up around something warm, even an intelligent Fungal creature snake, probably wouldn't mind spending all day curled up around a human.

I can't remember what the best intelligence template is, but aside from that, I'm just thinking we could make Tiny Viper fungal-creature cleric-creatures who act as belts for Legionnaires, I'm not sure what snake or plant to use for the sorcerer belts, Vipers clearly don't work, what with their 2 CHA score.

Having even a level 1 caster in your pocket(maybe literally) would be great for the legion, and as long as we keep them at only 1-2HD(they're riding around on a Legionnaire anyway, and are small and hard to hit, so they shouldn't very often take a hit) and at low CR, we can make them with corpses, which mean they wont be all that expensive.
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There are already some well-defined rules for Plant Symbiotes, with some good ones already statted out.

Plant Symbionts – d20PFSRD

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Part MMMDLXII: Lurking Madness
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    • Lurking Madness ​

    Twenty Seventh Day of the First Month 294 AC

    You are in the gardens enjoying a rare sunny day in the godswood with Dany and Lya, joined also by Vee and her snake sunning himself, when Lady Saenena Caleris finds you. You can tell something is amiss at once from the manner of her walk under the green arches. It is always purposeful, but the only time you have seen it be so urgent was in the midst of battle.

    "Excellency," she bows swiftly, too distracted to remember the Westerosi styling. "I believe Urak may be compromised by the influence of the Far Realm."

    The sun suddenly does not seem so bright nor the flowers so fragrant. "How?" Your mind whirling with possibilities you ask the next question in a rush, already considering spells to bind the enormous many-headed flesh-smith. "Does he require containment?"

    "Already done," the sorceress sighs. "I have made use of the Forge's defenders and my own magic to contain them, though not without loss of servitors. My own wishcraft was unfortunately unequal to the task of restoring his mind."

    Lost 2 Slayer and 3 Warden Seekers.

    "Alright then, what the Hells happened?" Vee asks, jumping off the bench as Lya sets privacy wards. To your surprise the sorceress does not seem to take offense at the tone, not even veiled. She seems to have gotten used to Vee.

    "Studies had been going well, looking back perhaps too well. Everything made sense, all the analyses obtained positive results at the second or third attempt. We seemed to be on track to finishing this month, which none of us had expected to. The Far Realm is by definition inscrutable, but the memories of the old smiths seemed invaluable, always the right answer at the right time. If I had not returned unexpectedly from my duties with the dragons perhaps I would not even have caught it. Urak was trying to isolate a section of the Forge from the influence of the Green Ones... the Old Gods of the Sunset Lands. They tried to explain themselves as not wishing the spirits to be enraged by the use of Far Realm magics, but that was obvious nonsense given the old man's... private studies. There were seals of calling and conjuration among the binding ones."

    "They were trying to corrupt the Forge?" you ask horrified. The sheer damage that might cause is... almost inestimable, though given the means it would likely not play out as in the worst possible scenario. Most likely it would have merely lead to psions loyal to the Deep Ones, unknowing even to themselves until the moment of betrayal.

    "That is my estimation. I do not know if the taint originated in one of the study materials or if it was intrinsic to one of the minds that became Urak and escaped the gaze of the Serpent God."

    "I would wager the former over the latte," Lya interjects at once. "Being swallowed by a god and remade... well, they would be able to envelop the whole of your soul."

    "Tiamat swallowed me," Dany points out softly.

    "And she knew you meant to betray her, she just didn't care because she was an arrogant bitch," you interject, doing your best to hide your wince at the reminder of what your sister had been through. "The question is where do we go from here, is there any part of this month's studies that you would vouch for as untainted?" you ask the sorceress.

    "None, everything was collaborative," she replies, frustration coloring her words. "I would suggest questioning Urak in the confines of the Snare and myself for good measure."

    "That's..." to be honest you are both surprised and touched by the show of trust. You had not been sure how to approach the possibility that she may have been unduly influenced to the proud mage. "Thank you, my lady."

    "It is I who would be thanking you once I have the surety that my mind is wholly my own," she counters before handing you a bottle filed with swirling dark red smoke that almost gives the impression of a many headed serpent.

    A Method to Madness: All progress lost due to Memetic Attack

    How do you investigate the potential breach of security by Far Realm elements?

    [] Interrogate first

    [] Go to the Forge to secure any evidence there

    [] Write in

    OOC: So yeah, remember those background rolls? This is what a catastrophic compounding failure looks like saved at the last moment in outright combat.
     
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    There are already some well-defined rules for Plant Symbiotes, with some good ones already statted out.
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    Yeah but those take research, and aren't necessarily precisely what we want, creating our own symbiotes/equipment creatures, or just creatures that can serve as support creatures, is a good addition.

    A Cleric snake acting as a belt, is something that take no research, and as the snake is a separate creature, that's clinging to the legionnaire, its spell casting don't cost the legionnaire actions.

    Also I'm not really sure, how those Plant Symbiotes work with the Fungus Forge, if we make them in the Fungus Forge, will they be priced based on the GP cost of the magic item they mimic, or based on their CR/HD?

    Then there's the fact, that I still someday want to make plant Voltron.

    But mainly belt snakes is something we can throw together right away, and the Legion could use pocket Clerics, even with them only being LVL 1 Clerics.
     
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    Man, I hate memetic attacks like that. Good thing we saved it at last moment but now I'm worried Urak is not wholly corrupted and nothing we can do to purge him of it without losing knowledge.

    Will be sad loss of a researcher.

    [X] Go to the Forge to secure any evidence there

    Best to figure out exactly what he is doing and to make sure nothing of the Far Realm, even small part, came through. Could make use of it among the rebels perhaps.
     
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    Man, I hate memetic attacks like that. Good thing we saved it at last moment but now I'm worried Urak is not wholly corrupted and nothing we can do to purge him of it without losing knowledge.

    Will be sad loss of a researcher.

    [X] Go to the Forge to secure any evidence there

    Best to figure out exactly what he is doing and to make sure nothing of the Far Realm, even small part, came through. Could make use of it among the rebels perhaps.
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    In worst case we feed him to Yss again, along with some other sacrifices, and he makes us a new Urak.
     
    [X] Go to the Forge to secure any evidence there

    We are going to have to take measures to prevent this kind of thing in the future.
     
    tarrangar said:
    Yeah but those take research, and aren't necessarily precisely what we want, creating our own symbiotes/equipment creatures, or just creatures that can serve as support creatures, is a good addition.

    A Cleric snake acting as a belt, is something that take no research, and as the snake is a separate creature, that's clinging to the legionnaire, its spell casting don't cost the legionnaire actions.

    Also I'm not really sure, how those Plant Symbiotes work with the Fungus Forge, if we make them in the Fungus Forge, will they be priced based on the GP cost of the magic item they mimic, or based on their CR/HD?

    Then there's the fact, that I still someday want to make plant Voltron.

    But mainly belt snakes is something we can throw together right away, and the Legion could use pocket Clerics, even with them only being LVL 1 Clerics.
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    These symbionts would be much more reasonable from a power and cost standpoint. DP already confirmed long ago that cost would be based off the symbiote's CR.

    Creating living gear for our people isn't beyond the bounds of reason, but making sentient creatures intended as spellcasting fashion accessories is crazy, and not in a good way. It would be less ethically dubious, and more useful besides, to simply grow servitor creatures, such as Advanced Cleric Creature Lotus Leshy, to assign to the Legion.
     
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    Lurking Madness ​

    Twenty Seventh Day of the First Month 294 AC

    You are in the gardens enjoying a rare sunny day in the godswood with Dany and Lya, joined also by Vee and her snake sunning himself, when Lady Saenena Caleris finds you. You can tell something is amiss at once from the manner of her walk under the green arches. It is always purposeful, but the only time you have seen it be so urgent was in the midst of battle.

    "Excellency," she bows swiftly, too distracted to remember the Westerosi styling. "I believe Urak may be compromised by the influence of the Far Realm."

    The sun suddenly does not seem so bright nor the flowers so fragrant. "How?" Your mind whirling with possibilities you ask the next question in a rush, already considering spells to bind the enormous many-headed flesh-smith. "Does he require containment?"

    "Already done," the sorceress sighs. "I have made use of the Forge's defenders and my own magic to contain them, though not without loss of servitors. My own wishcraft was unfortunately unequal to the task of restoring his mind."

    Lost 2 Slayer and 3 Warden Seekers.

    "Alright then, what the Hells happened?" Vee asks, jumping off the bench as Lya sets privacy wards. To your surprise the sorceress does not seem to take offense at the tone, not even veiled. She seems to have gotten used to Vee.

    "Studies had been going well, looking back perhaps too well. Everything made sense, all the analyses obtained positive results at the second or third attempt. We seemed to be on track to finishing this month, which none of us had expected to. The Far Realm is by definition inscrutable, but the memories of the old smiths seemed invaluable, always the right answer at the right time. If I had not returned unexpectedly from my duties with the dragons perhaps I would not even have caught it. Urak was trying to isolate a section of the Forge from the influence of the Green Ones... the Old Gods of the Sunset Lands. They tried to explain themselves as not wishing the spirits to be enraged by the use of Far Realm magics, but that was obvious nonsense given the old man's... private studies. There were seals of calling and conjuration among the binding ones."

    "They were trying to corrupt the Forge?" you ask horrified. The sheer damage that might cause is... almost inestimable, though given the means it would likely not play out as in the worst possible scenario. Most likely it would have merely lead to psions loyal to the Deep Ones, unknowing even to themselves until the moment of betrayal.

    "That is my estimation. I do not know if the taint originated in one of the study materials or if it was intrinsic to one of the minds that became Urak and escaped the gaze of the Serpent God."

    "I would wager the former over the latte," Lya interjects at once. "Being swallowed by a god and remade... well, they would be able to envelop the whole of your soul."

    "Tiamat swallowed me," Dany points out softly.

    "And she knew you meant to betray her, she just didn't care because she was an arrogant bitch," you interject, doing your best to hide your wince at the reminder of what your sister had been through. "The question is where do we go from here, is there any part of this month's studies that you would vouch for as untainted?" you ask the sorceress.

    "None, everything was collaborative," she replies, frustration coloring her words. "I would suggest questioning Urak in the confines of the Snare and myself for good measure."

    "That's..." to be honest you are both surprised and touched by the show of trust. You had not been sure how to approach the possibility that she may have been unduly influenced to the proud mage. "Thank you, my lady."

    "It is I who would be thanking you once I have the surety that my mind is wholly my own," she counters before handing you a bottle filed with swirling dark red smoke that almost gives the impression of a many headed serpent.

    A Method to Madness: All progress lost due to Memetic Attack

    How do you investigate the potential breach of security by Far Realm elements?

    [] Interrogate first

    [] Go to the Forge to secure any evidence there

    [] Write in

    OOC: So yeah, remember those background rolls? This is what a catastrophic compounding failure looks like saved at the last moment in outright combat.
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    Damn, that's rough. We're going to need to purchase more of those Aberration detecting pearls from Vialesk, along with more Spectacles of Detect Aberration.

    We need to add more wards, too, like those used by the Lantern Bearers in Oldtown.

    [X] Go to the Forge to secure any evidence there
     
    Curious, what could a Far Realm corrupted Flesh Forge look like? Some sorta nightmarish building-sized womb constantly spitting out aberrations seeking to dine on the thinking minds of sapient beings?
     
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