I'm not projecting. In canon, Renly has to hide his homosexuality from everyone, despite his lover being the most acceptable lover around (Loras). There are mean rumours going around, and he is mocked. Homophobic insults are used routinely (though more often in Westeros than in Essos) even by polite and educated nobles.
We don't see any lynchings, IIRC, but homophobia is definitely a mainstream thing.

On the other hand he was expected to sire Heirs and anyone in his social circle would have more to gain from pressuring him into a relationship with a woman, the Tyrrells were perfectly fine with the twins working as a pair because Loras bound him emotionally while Margaery would have the bloodline locked down.

The purpose of a relationship was being fulfilled.

As for insults maybe I'm misremembering but I don't recall anything particular terrible, Renly made himself open to insults generally given his attitude and people will say whatever they think will hurt (you or your family) more than anything they actually dislike.

There's also the whole dynamic of dour Stannis being overlooked for his dandy of a brother, if you're trying to upset that house then insulting the traits he doesn't share with Stannis is probably a good bet.

Even Oberyn copped more flak for being a slut than an equal opportunity slut, because being flighty and irresponsible with how often you put your penis somewhere reflects on your house in a way that what gender you're putting it in does not.

If he'd been from a different kingdom and was leaving boys about instead of girls I imagine there's quite a few houses that would have preferred he take his enjoyment in the way that doesn't cause issues of his issue.
 
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[X] Withdraw the whole group for now, but only in order to find a new location in the Reach from which to continue their work undisturbed.
 
I never got the impression that homophobia was ever an impediment, serious risk or even a slight damper on Renly's political and social prospects.

But Renly is basically a Princeling. He is nobility of the very highest order. The take away there is that if you can be used as a figurehead in order to advance an agenda, enshrined above all other prospects, you can do whatever the fuck you want in Westeros. People will largely accommodate to it in order to get what they want, whatever your feelings.

In contrast, everyone else faces serious social pressure. Being ostracized as a noble who is gay happens when you have political capital, but not enough of it, or refuse one too many times to leverage it appropriately in other people's favor.

So really it's all relative to status. A lot of the examples in the story are just overwhelming standouts due to political and social status both. Renly, a Lord Paramount and heir to the Throne. Oberyn, also a Prince by blood if not title, Laenor Velaryon, a claimant to the Iron Throne himself.

Every one of these people faces some ridicule and social issues, but they largely bring it down on themselves for various reasons either tangentially or completely unrelated to their preferences towards men.

When you don't have status, disapproval for one thing can make it easier for you to suffer damage socially, with the ones lacking pretty much all protections largely unable to afford that kind of reputation. If you can already be killed out of hand due to circumstance and bad luck, you don't do anything that can draw attention to yourself in general.
 
[X] Withdraw the whole group for now, but only in order to find a new location in the Reach from which to continue their work undisturbed.
 
Well we promised to get the free folk out, not necessarily out alive...

Edit: Into the sack they go as well. Little point in letting the other have free ammo.


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On the other hand he was expected to sire Heirs and anyone in his social circle would have more to gain from pressuring him into a relationship with a woman, the Tyrrells were perfectly fine with the twins working as a pair because Loras bound him emotionally while Margaery would have the bloodline locked down.

The purpose of a relationship was being fulfilled.

As for insults maybe I'm misremembering but I don't recall anything particular terrible, Renly made himself open to insults generally given his attitude and people will say whatever they think will hurt (you or your family) more than anything they actually dislike.
Renly was consistently mocked in every way that mattered in this feudal society, and he was a fucking Prince. If it was this bad for him, how bad was it for everyone else?

I never got the impression that homophobia was ever an impediment, serious risk or even a slight damper on Renly's political and social prospects.
I disagree with this. Homophobia was in a fact a serious impediment to Renly, because it worsened his existing problems as it was used against him.
Renly's claim to the throne was that he was likeable + a storybook Knight. Joffrey had the legitimacy and Stannis had the actual military record. Renly was likeable, and spent his time trying to make friends and gather people to his banner. Even his march to war was basically one big shmooze!
And he didn't get far, did he? He got the Reach behind him (marrying into the Tyrells certainly helped there) but he didn't manage to get respect and loyalty from the Lords of many other Kingdoms. Coincidentally, he was also mocked across the land for being gay, lacking proper martial spirit and virility, being more concerned with lighthearted parties than proper manly occupations like war...
The conclusion "being gay was used against him and was part of his failure to gather widespread support outside of the Reach" doesn't seem crazy to me.

It's not like it would have mattered anyway, of course: despite the color scheme opposition, no amount of flamboyant gayness will protect you from a stabby shadow-baby.
Still, I expect Renly would have had an easier and less unpleasant time of it if he hadn't been known to be gay.

But Renly is basically a Princeling. He is nobility of the very highest order. The take away there is that if you can be used as a figurehead in order to advance an agenda, enshrined above all other prospects, you can do whatever the fuck you want in Westeros. People will largely accommodate to it in order to get what they want, whatever your feelings.

In contrast, everyone else faces serious social pressure. Being ostracized as a noble who is gay happens when you have political capital, but not enough of it, or refuse one too many times to leverage it appropriately in other people's favor.

So really it's all relative to status. A lot of the examples in the story are just overwhelming standouts due to political and social status both. Renly, a Lord Paramount and heir to the Throne. Oberyn, also a Prince by blood if not title, Laenor Velaryon, a claimant to the Iron Throne himself.

Every one of these people faces some ridicule and social issues, but they largely bring it down on themselves for various reasons either tangentially or completely unrelated to their preferences towards men.

When you don't have status, disapproval for one thing can make it easier for you to suffer damage socially, with the ones lacking pretty much all protections largely unable to afford that kind of reputation. If you can already be killed out of hand due to circumstance and bad luck, you don't do anything that can draw attention to yourself in general.
This. Renly is the best case scenario (gay but too powerful and influential to be persecuted), and we saw that being openly gay was a problem for him. Who knows how bad it is for everyone else? I'm not going to make up lynch mobs wholesale, but we can't pretend that being gay in Westeros isn't a vulnerability.
 
To Gut A Fish I

To say that the Vale had many valleys was akin to saying that the sky was full of wind or that the oceans carried a lot of water. Unlike the ever shifting paths of the winds or the endless expanse of shapeless water though, a valley was an old thing. Carved in time immemorial, each and every one of them had seen the tread of countless feet, from Singers to Giants and First Men to Andals. And each and every time, they would bestow a name upon the valley so that they could tell stories about it. In time, the name would fade from the valley again, campfires going cold and villages swallowed by forests, but the stories would endure. And one day, another set of feet would come to the valley and name it all over again.

As one who had the favor of the Gods of stream and stone, Dalla had spent more then enough time in silent contemplation before a Heart Tree to know the truth of this old tale. It was one thing to be told it by your elders to make you more humble and another to remember. To hear the voices of old as they sung and prayed before the trees in tongues so old that even their names had been forgotten. To hear men, singers and Fey stand before them, all invoking some ancient right to a place before the bemused voices of the Greendream.

It kept things in perspective to her. Made it easier to do what she did, both for her people and the old raven on his distant throne. The valleys did not care for any claims staked by those that lived in them. They had seen countless claims and outlived them all. One day, the last man would leave these valleys, making place for whatever came next. And they too would one day sit in these valleys and speak of age old claims that some newcomers were contesting. Maybe the Greendream would be bemused to see the cycle repeat again. Maybe even the gods would be no more, they too passing away to make room for others.

So when she and her allies came to the Twisting Valley on this eve, Dalla knew deep down how small and tiny all these events were. How laughable the claims and grudges of a mere few millennia. How little heir lives and deeds would matter before the grinding mills of time. She couldn't deny that the change in perspective had not changed here, especially in recent times as she dove deeper and deeper into the past and even began to carefully peek into futures that might yet be.

Some had told her how she seemed to have become more peaceful, he old brashness fading in the wake of her studies. Yet personally, she now felt she understood how the deathless monster in his cave could peer out at a whole word and see nothing but puppets to snare in his strings. Tools to be used and discarded as he deemed it necessary. Maybe she would one day become like him. For now though, she still had her own legs and could speak in her own voice. And her own eyes to see the results of her machinations.

And thus she had came here to the camp of the Red Feet clan, or more precisely what was left of it, in person and with her the allies she had chosen. Maybe not these people in particular, but she had knelt before the Dragon in all the ways that mattered, so she too had chosen to work with whatever aid he was sending her. The old mage was kindly enough on the surface, though no one who bothered to look wouldn't have noticed how the animals were getting skittish in his presence or his habit of looking through people as if they weren't worth noticing.

The two dragons were easier to stomach in that regard, even when in their human guises. They were female, sisters apparently, for whatever that meant for something that was made, not born, and her people had taken only a glance at them to know to keep their distance. One had hair white as snow, the other black as the night and both had a chill clinging to them that went deep as bone. Most thought the two of them Fey and Dalla didn't correct those rumors, because it meant they were careful around them. Careful not to be snared in pacts or becoming the target of cruel jests.

Only the undead warrior was troubling to Dalla herself. Not because of what he was, because she was decently sure that the Old Gods would not condone it's use, if they feared the enemy to seize the thing from them, but because of what the thing that was it's mind. She had not seen the mold growing within the dead flesh, only heard the brief explanation from Qyburn, but she could feel it. Feel the truth of the description. It was familiar like the Greendream to her, yet alien in it's fractured state that bordered at madness. Distracting too, for she could always sense the faint cauldron of hatred, longing and desire that was boiling within.

They were an ill fit for what she allegedly had come her to do, but it didn't matter. Tallurd from the Deep Water was not a man she had been able to sway with nice words and promises of lands in the vales. The clan chief was slouching on his throne, assembled from pelts, broken lances, sword and the dented armors from knights, beaten into a seat like shape. Around him stood his fines warriors, hulking men in leather armor with rune etched axes and swords, easily surrounding the small group she had brought with her. Neither salt nor bread had been offered so far.

"Well, with what deed have I earned the misfortune of your presence, Andal whore? Hadn't I told you last time that you better not return to my hearth?" He spoke with little rancor, but the chuckling from the warriors at calling her the whore of Andals was rather telling anyway. They had indeed not parted on good terms.

Still Dall stood upright before him, leaning lightly on her staff and not deigning the insult with so much as a twitch of her mien. "I remember our last meeting Tallurd and you told me that I shouldn't try to sway you again and that's not what I'm here for. I'm here because your kin asked me to." Truth be told, she cared next to nothing about Tallurd, but others did. The Mountain Clans were too few and too fractured to spend their lives lightly, no matter her own feelings on some of the clans.

The camp went silent at that and more then a few hands were going for spears, axes and sword. Even Tallurd had gotten up from his throne and was glaring at Dalla with twice the vitriol, he voice a low growl. "Pick your next words carefully, whore, or I'll see how big a blessing your heart is worth."

"I swore oath to your kin that I would warn you, if I knew your lives were at risk." She swept her gaze over the crowd, not only the warriors in the first row, but also those behind them. The young, the old, the wives. There were far fewer of them then the last time she had visited the Red Feet. Tallurds warband had shrunk again, now that the raiding seasons were over, leaving only the hardened core of his followers. "They didn't betray you. The clan didn't divide. They are still waiting for you."

There was not much reaction to her words and what little she got was mostly anger. Chief among them was Tallurd, who was barely keeping his temper in check. "Don't speak of the families you talked into abandoning us. And don't speak to us as if we were lambs ready for the slaughter. Do you truly believe we will be defeated by some lowlanders in our own mountains? Or are you afraid for your precious Andals?"

One of the dragons, the white haired one calling herself Arsyris stepped forward and raised her voice before Dalla could answer. "Truly, such spirit! Such bravery and zest!" She turned once, glancing over the assembled warriors who seemed suddenly much less sure of themselves. "Seeing you fight the Blackfish man to man would certainly be something. The clash of steel against steel as the ground is watered with blood. What a missed opportunity."

"There is something else, you need worry about," spoke Syraris, the black haired sister, with an impish smile on her face. "Great evils lurk in this valley. Right here and now, they are just biding their time to tear into the Andals. Such a perfect place for an ambush, such a perfect slaughter they will visit upon them. But you are here too."

This time, Dalla spoke quickly, lest the two of them gave the game away. "What they say is true. Something will attack the Andal host in the coming night. Something of cold and death. If you don't leave, it will slaughter you too." All true, from a certain point of view. She pretty sure that the two dragons would readily admit that they were the great evil if somebody asked, but that was unlikely to happen.

There was a more solemn quiet in the camp as she made this prophecy, though Tallurd did not want any of it. "Then we will fight whatever it is too. We are not cowards like your folk Dalla. We will not kneel before Andals or Fey or whatever thing coming to us. These are our lands and we will fight for them until the last drop of Red Feet blood." As he spoke, his warriors regained their fervor, openly shouting in confirmation of his words by the end of it.

She could hear Qyburn quietly sigh beside her, but she herself hadn't even that much to give. It was all so pointless. She could easily admit that Tallurd was a good speaker, which was why so many still followed him, but he was also an idiot who would get them all killed for his pride. Idly she wondered if he too was one of the ravens puppets, slowly walking to his doom for a purpose he would never know or even understand.

For a moment she got distracted by these thoughts and for the first time, she heard the deep, booming voice of the thing that they had brought with them. She didn't know if the voice was true or just part of the figment of a giant that they had woven over it, but it was almost a physical thing, rattling you to the bones and demanding attention.

"Why," it asked. "Why would you see your clan sundered when you could just leave and live?"

Tallurd didn't hesitate a single heartbeat, responding long before most had overcome the shock of the giant speaking at all. "For our blood and our honor. We have fought for these lands ever since the invaders come and we will fight for it to the last. Our ancestors will smile upon us when we join them, because we will die with honor in battle, not like cowards and slaves."

The giant stepped forward, leaving the shadows of the night and being bathed in the flickering light of the bonfire. "We too thought like you did. Once. Long ago. We were fools. You are a fool. There is no glory or honor in death. There is only the echoes that slowly fade. Through a thousand, thousand eyes your ancestors see this world and they see how little their honor mattered. How little their glories are remembered. This world has forgotten them and so it will forget you, Tallurd of the Deep Water. Leave. Live. Become more then a forgotten skull in a nameless vale."

The crowd wavered at the booming proclamation, but it was too little, that Dalla could already see. "Don't dare to teach me about my ancestors, giant," came the snarled response from Tallurd and just like that, the uncertainty faded and gave way to rage and indignation. It was cruel irony that they were offended at the words of their own ancestors given a semblance of flesh again. "We have done our ancestors proud! We have offered them Andal blood freely, slain the invaders where we could and taken their riches for ourselves. As my father has done and his father before him. As all of the Free Folk will do until the day the last invader is bleeding upon pale roots."

"The roots tire of the blood of Andals and Free Folk," the giant spoke quietly, as if the minds within could not believe them themselves. But with each word, they grew surer. "Rivers of it have been shed and you still live in squalor and filth. Your people had generations upon generation to win this war and they never did, but now greater enemies lurk beyond the horizon. Even the oceans will run red with blood in the wars to come Tallurd, and the roots will drink deep from them. Fight in those wars if you value your life so little, but waste no more of our time."

The chieftain still stood tall and defiant, his hand slowly untying the knot holding an axe on his back. "We would rather die then kneel before some far away king like you and the whore."

The two dragons began to laugh, cruel and mocking as the giants hand gripped the haft of it's own axe. "Then we will grant you that wish."



AN: Shining a bit of a spotlight on both Dalla here and a bit more on what goes on in the mess that is a Blood Clot Mold.
You can only offer someone so many chances. Eventually, you just have to let them commit suicide by monster and hope they haven't already muddied the gene pool too much.
 
The conclusion "being gay was used against him and was part of his failure to gather widespread support outside of the Reach" doesn't seem crazy to me.

Or being gay is an easy proxy to differentiate him from his more martial brothers, he was a dandy and they made a big deal of the fact that he did dandyish things.

If he was gay and terrifyingly ruthless and bloodthirsty they wouldn't be wasting breath on trying to paint him as weak in that way when being too strong in another is more damaging.

As I said, Oberyn was not at all shy about being bisexual but nobody ever tried to imply that meant he was martially incompetent or weak or lacked strength.

Oberyn was mocked and insulted in accordance with his nature and general perception, as was Renly.

You had people saying Renly was too focused on excess and personal passions while simultaneously decrying Stannis for the very opposite, Renly was weak militarily and Stannis too quick to use it.

You're always going to have the witless who barely understand the insults they're hurling and just take comfort in an easily identifiable target that isn't them but that's hardly a judge for anything, those same people target intellectuals, those stronger than them, richer than them, poorer than them depending on the mood of whatever group they're in.
 
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Canon Renly definitely. No idea about Fey Renly. They might have the same memories but they're very different people.
Well technically he's supposed to be the "idealized" Lord.

Can't do your duty without heirs to inherit... not that it would be a great obstacle to obtain those by other means under our laws.

Regardless, "ideal" is subjective in this situation, because narratives are subjectively experienced.
 
The chieftain still stood tall and defiant, his hand slowly untying the knot holding an axe on his back. "We would rather die then kneel before some far away king like you and the whore."
Only so many chances someone can get before they're deemed too stupid to live. :facepalm: I hope our dragons have fun with that slaughter at least.
 

Name: Renly
Alias: The Changeling
Age: ??? (16 Years Subjective)
Alignment: Neutral Good
Race: Fey (Fey Creature Human)
Level: 11
Class: Gallant Cavalier (Order of the Blue Rose) 11
Feats: Bonded Mind (B), Enlightened Noble (Scion of the Arts), Intercept Charge (B), Noble Scion (Scion of the Arts), Persuasive, Sociable, Voice of the Sibyl
Class Features: Challenge (3/Day), Flat of the Blade, Cavalier's Charge, Symbol of Inspiration, Inner Peace (1/Day)

Languages Spoken: Westerosi Common, High Valyrian, Sylvan

HP: 11d10 (75) + 33 (CON) = 108
AC: 10 + 7 (DEX) + 7 (Reinforced Segmented Mithral Breastplate +1) + 3 (Heavy Mithral Shield +1) + 1 (Dodge; CV) + 2 (Deflection vs Evil) = 28/30
Initiative: +7 (DEX)
Movement: 30 + 30 (Anklets) = 60 feet
Base Attack: +11/+6/+1 + 1 (CV); +4 (STR) or +7 (DEX); +2 Enhancement bonus
  • Ranged: +21/+21/+16/+11 [1d8+2; x3, Glamered Dispelling +2 Longbow]
  • Melee:+18/+18/+13/+8 [1d8+6; 19-20/x2, Valyrian Steel Longsword] or [1d8+6; x3, Valyrian Steel Lance]
    • w/Challenge: +21/+21/+16/+11 [1d8+6+9; 19-20/x2, Valyrian Steel Longsword] or [1d8+6+9; x3, Valyrian Steel Lance]
Weapon Proficiency: All Simple and Martial
Immunities: Disease, Possession/Mental Control, Baleful Polymorph [Single use], All Death Spells, Magical Death Effects, Energy Drain, and any Negative Energy Effects
SR: 22
DR: 5/Cold Iron

STATS:
14 + 4 = 18 (+4) Strength
20 + 4 = 24 (+7) Dexterity
12 + 4 = 16 (+3) Constitution
17 + 1 = 18 (+4) Intelligence
10 + 4 = 14 (+2) Wisdom
20 + 4 = 24 (+7) Charisma

SAVES
FORTITUDE: 7 + 3 (CON) + 5 (Resistance) = 15
REFLEX: 3 + 7 (DEX) + 5 (Resistance) + 1 (CV) = 16
WILL: 3 + 2 (WIS) + 5 (Resistance) = 10

SKILLS:
Diplomacy: 14 + 7 (CHA) +4 (SYN) + 4 (Persuasive) + 3 (Voice of the Sibyl) + 2 (Sociable) + 5 (Earring) = 39 (+4 when acting as a mediator)
Handle Animal: 14 + 7 (CHA) = 21; +5 w/animals that can serve as a mount
Knowledge (History): 14 + 4 (INT) = 18
Knowledge (Nobility and Royalty): 14 + 4 (INT) + 2 (Noble Scion) = 20
Perform (Oratory): 14 + 7 (CHA) + 3 (Voice of the Sibyl) = 24
Ride: 14 + 7 (DEX) + 5 (Belt) = 26
Sense Motive: 14 + 2 (WIS) = 16

Special Abilities:
  • Fey Creature:
    • Spell-Like Abilities: 11th caster level; 3/Day: Dancing Lights, 1/Day: Confusion (DC 21), Deep Slumber (DC 20), Entangle (DC 18), Faerie Fire, Feeblemind (DC 22 or 26), Glitterdust (DC 19), Major image (DC 20)
    • Evasion (Ex): Upon making a successful Reflex saving throw against an attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save, you instead take no damage. Evasion can be used only if wearing light armor or no armor.
  • Cavalier:
    • Inner Peace (Ex): 1/Day as an Immediate Action, you may ignore an amount of 18 Hit Points of damage from a single source (Cavalier level plus Charisma modifier), such as a melee attack or a spell.
    • Cavalier's Charge (Ex): You receive a +4 bonus on melee attack rolls on a charge while mounted (instead of the normal +2). In addition, you do not suffer any penalty to his AC after making a charge attack while mounted.
    • Greater Tactician (Ex): You receive an additional Teamwork feat as a bonus feat. You must meet the prerequisites for this feat. You can grant this feat to his allies using the Tactician ability. Using the Tactician ability is a Swift Action (Bonded Mind).
    • Challenge (Ex): Whenever you issue a Challenge, you receive a +3 Morale bonus on attack rolls made against the target of the Challenge if they are an intelligent creature to whom you offered the chance to surrender (by taking a Standard Action to offer terms).
    • Symbol of Inspiration (Ex): As long as you display your crest on your tabard, banner, or similar item, allies within 60 feet who can see you gain a +3 Morale bonus on saving throws against Charm, Compulsion, and Fear effects, and a +3 bonus on damage rolls to deal nonlethal damage.
    • Expert Trainer (Ex): You receive a +5 bonus (1/2 Cavalier level) whenever you use Handle Animal on an animal that serves as a mount. You can reduce the time needed to teach a mount a new trick or train a mount for a general purpose to 1 day per 1 week required by increasing the DC by +5. You can also train more than one mount at once, although each mount after the first adds +2 to the DC.
    • Flat of the Blade (Ex): You no longer take a -4 penalty when attacking with a lethal weapon to deal nonlethal damage. When dealing nonlethal damage, you receive a +2 bonus on damage rolls. When you make use of this ability, you must attempt to subdue your target without killing it; dealing lethal damage after using this ability, or allowing your allies to kill the target, is considered a violation of your edicts.
  • Silvered Tongue (Ex): 7/Day (Charisma modifier), you can roll 2d20 for a Perform check and take the better result.
  • Sociable (Ex): As a Move Action, grant all friendly creatures within 30 feet who can see or hear you (including yourself ) a +2 bonus on Diplomacy checks for 7 rounds (Charisma modifier).
  • Channel Vigor: Select one of the following effects, which can be changed as a Move Action. Currently using "Limbs" effect.
Anklets of Rapid Translocation:
  1. Benefit from a +30ft Enhancement bonus to ground movement speed.
  2. 2/Day Instantly teleport up to 10 feet to an unoccupied destination within line of sight and line of effect. The wearer can teleport with objects, up to their maximum load, but cannot bring other creatures.
Boneward Belt: +4 Constitution, +5 Competence bonus to Ride skill checks
  • Healing (3 charges/day): 1 charge (Heal 2d8 points of damage), 2 charges (Heal 3d8 points of damage), or 3 charges(Heal 4d8 points of damage)
Challenging Mithral Shield (+1): AC Bonus: +3, ACP: 0, Weight: 7.5 pounds
  • By spending one use of you Challenge class feature as an Immediate Action, you can apply your Charisma bonus to your Shield bonus to AC against the target of your Challenge for 1 minute.
Earring of Arcane Acuity: +4 Charisma, +4 Wisdom, +1 Intelligence, +5 Competence bonus to Diplomacy skill checks
  • 3 Charges/Day: 1 Charge(Darkvision 60 ft., 1 hour), 2 Charges (See Invisibility, 10 minutes), 3 Charges (True Seeing, 1 minute)
Greater Ribbon of Disguise: Alter Self, Magic Aura, Undetectable Alignment (At Will)

Greater Ring of Protection from Evil:
  • 3 Charges/Day: 1 Charge (12 Temporary Hit Points), 2 Charges (18 Temporary Hit Points), 3 Charges (24 Temporary Hit Points), Duration: 10 minutes
Handy Haversack: This backpack is of high quality but appears otherwise normal.
  1. It has two side pouches, each of which appears large enough to hold about a quart of material. In fact, each is like a Bag of Holding and can actually hold material of as much as 2 cubic feet in volume or 20 pounds in weight. The large central portion of the pack can contain up to 8 cubic feet or 80 pounds of material. Even when so filled, the backpack always weighs only 5 pounds.
  2. While such storage is useful enough, the pack has an even greater power. When the wearer reaches into it for a specific item, that item is always on top. Thus, no digging around and fumbling is ever necessary to find what a haversack contains. Retrieving any specific item from a haversack is a Move Action, but it does not provoke the Attacks of Opportunity that retrieving a stored item usually does.
Launcher:
  • Somewhat resembling a crossbow where the bow mechanism has been replaced by a two foot long and two inch diameter hollow steel tube, this device allows its wielder to shoot items no larger than Tiny-size or weighing more than 10 pounds using the Launch Item spell up to 440 feet. Where applicable, the wielder must make a Ranged Attack roll to strike a target.
Miscellaneous Wondrous Items:
Psionic Items:
Ring of Self-Sufficiency: Acts as a Ring of Sustenance but also allows the wearer to use the Prestidigitation spell at will.

Soulfire Mithral Bracers (+1): Immune to all death spells, magical death effects, and energy drain, and any negative energy effects

Genie Tokens:
2 Brilliant Barrier Charm
1 Discretion Charm
1 Mask of Mask from Divination
1 Fortunate Fate Charms
1 Plane Shift Charm
2 Sending Stone
1 Teleport Charm

Githzerai Tokens
1x Crystal Reddopsi (13th Manifester Level)
1x Crystal Fate of One (13th Manifester Level)
1x Crystal of Null Psionic Field (11th Manifester Level)
1x Crystal Temporal Acceleration (Augmented to 15th Manifester level, 2 round duration)

Alchemical Substances:
20x Alchemist's Fire
5x Antiplague
5x Antitoxin
3x Auran Mask
10x Fungal Stun Vial
20x Healing Salve
10x Liquid Ice
20x Sleep-Smoke
10x Smokestick
10x Sunrod
10x Tanglefoot Bag
10x Thunderstone
20x Vermin Repellent
Equipped Magic Items: Anklets of Rapid Translocation, Bead of Newt Prevention, Boneward Belt (+4 CON), Challenging Heavy Mithral Shield (+1), Cloak of Resistance (+5), Cold Iron Longsword (+1), Earring of Arcane Acuity (+4 CHA, +4 WIS, +1 INT), Glammered Dispelling Longbow (+2), Gloves of Zephyr's Grace (+4 DEX, +4 STR), Greater Ribbon of Disguise, Greater Ring of Protection from Evil, Handy Haversack, Launcher, Periapt of Health, Quivers (x2; 20 Cold Iron-tipped arrows & 20 Steel-tipped arrows), Reinforced & Segmented Mithral Breastplate (+1), Ring of Self-Sufficiency, Soulfire Mithral Bracers (+1), Valyrian Steel Lance (+2), Valyrian Steel Longsword (+2)

Mount's Equipped Magic Items: Horseshoes of Speed (+30ft Enhancement bonus to ground movement), Muleback Cord [Slotless](+8 STR for purpose of Carrying Capacity), Reinforced Mithral Chain Barding (+1)
Renly's Companions:
  1. Lamora, Shadow Creature Veela Sorceress 6/Arcane Savant 2
  2. Veny, Erinat Gremlin Rogue 5
  3. Cyril, Frost Giant Fighter 5
 
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That's what you noticed @Duesal?

I thought you'd notice this and start cawing "Loot! Loot!"

The clan chief was slouching on his throne, assembled from pelts, broken lances, sword and the dented armors from knights, beaten into a seat like shape.

He has his own Iron Throne! I hereby demand that we make the bigger skulls of whichever of Tiamat's avatar ours!
 
That's what you noticed @Duesal?

I thought you'd notice this and start cawing "Loot! Loot!"



He has his own Iron Throne! I hereby demand that we make the bigger skulls of whichever of Tiamat's avatar ours!
Oh come now, Iron Thrones are so cliche, not to mention uncomfortable.

We're a Dragon, we sit on a hoard.

And yes I do expect us to lounge on a hoard of precious metals and gems when we have audiences when this is over because some points you need to hammer in with a sledgehammer and I don't want any of these monkeys thinking they can be clever once all this is said and done. At least for the first few months or so.

On the one one hand I'm trying to do better about underestimating the intelligence of our enemies and Westerosi in general but on the other hand *gestures towards Bartheon who's cucking his wife with a lookalike sorceress just to spite her & said wife who would have killed him if his literal enemies weren't so focused on keeping his stupid ass alive because god help us he's at least better/easier to deal with than a sociopathic 12 year old, barely*.

I'm half convinced that if we don't take the Iron Throne outside and melt that shit personally in front of people we're going to have idiots trying to plan a coup, even with our almost guaranteed blitzkrieg of an invasion.
 
because god help us he's at least better/easier to deal with than a sociopathic 12 year old, barely

Hey, don't say that. He's but a boy right now. Much like Ramsay and even Viserys, he could be so much more.

Like, becoming a personal servant for a Fey Lady or a snack for a Demon to nibble, little by little.

Or he could be our most trustworthy of Vassal to clean the stain that is his parents from ever existing.

The possibilities are endless, man~. He could be our allies or he could just drop dead.

Either way, we win!
 
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Interlude DCCCXXI: The Maiden and the Troll
The Maiden and the Troll

Twenty Ninth Day of the First Month 294 AC

Lame Man's Bridge over the Honeywine, Florent Lands, the Reach

Were a traveler to pass by the old bridge that morning as the first rays of the sun peeked over the dark green hills they would find it strange indeed to see what was by all appearances a lady garbed in blue with a silver belt and hair black as raven's feather down under the span of stone, doubtless dirtying her fine boots with river mud. The Honeywine wasn't particularly deep this close to the source, nor treacherous as some rivers were that sprang from the hearts of mountains, but still the bottom of the gorge was no place for so fine-fitted a traveler.

The strangeness didn't end there by far. With steady hands Rina Cox sliced her palm upon the shard of true ice, and as she waited for the blood to seep out to the slow beat of her heart she drew runes of calling upon the mortared stone where the bridge met the shore, their echoes sinking into the rock beneath, calling forth an elder power.

Not all that is old walks under the stars. Not all that is wise keeps faith in the sleeping king. So whispered shadow onto shadow, the Lady Melisandre's arts confirming the tales the orphne fey heard.

Lya needed to speak to one knowledgeable in the ways of land-binding and it just so happened such a one slumbered here, not yet ready to rise and meet the sun. And foresight had shown that the green warden would answer only Rina's call of all of them. What they had not accounted for was how it would answer...

Great green hands covered in living moss large enough to crush a horse emerged from the stone of the bridge to envelop Rina and crush the life from her as a bellow loud enough to crack stone emerged from the depths of the hill. "Betrayers and Defilers! I know the stench of your blood! Never shall you befoul this land again!"

A small part of Rina noted that being gripped by something like this should have snapped every last bone below her shoulders, not felt like she was maybe going to bruise tomorrow. Are my bones even bones, or just ice all the way through? Most of her attention however was bent upon sending a bit of her magic spiraling into her silver anklets to vanish out of the mossy grip and reappear atop the bridge.

From here she could see the titanic being emerge from the stone, parting it like a curtain in the way a xorn might do it. However, this was no creature of the distant Spheres but instead an elder giant slumbering at the roots of the hill that was its kin. He was also doing his best to kill her as the second thunderous roar, heavy with magic and much as rage, showed.


"I do not serve the enemy of life, Elder One!" the sorceress shouted, hoping he would listen. While she would likely not be able to defeat the enraged giant herself she was sure Lady Melisandre's flames would be more than a match for him, but it would be a shame for one who had survived the turning of so many ages to die to a misunderstanding. Calling upon the Green and the memories of frost undefined for wisdom she added: "Not all that is frost is fallen, not all those who wander are lost and in the dawning of a new age the wheel may yet turn anew as it was meant."

Though she had only the vaguest notion of what she had just been talking about, something about short summers and winters just as brief, the words seemed to calm the great troll enough to look at her with something other than murderous rage in his coal black eyes. "Speak then, daughter of frost who has the ear of the Green. Why have you woken me this day to look once more upon the face of the sun?"

"First I must ask for a pledge that you will not share what I shall tell you with the Star Crowned Queen nor any in her service," the sorceress replied. "Because I intend to pay you much rich yellow gold and more wondrous things besides," she continued, drawing from her enchanted satchel a pouch heavy with coin to toss at him. There was, after all, a reason why they had chosen to awaken this particular being. Unlike the winsome fey, their thoughts flitting from tale to trick to clever magic, trolls were motivated by solid greed and gold the Empire had a aplenty.

Lost 500 IM

"I'm listening," the elder giant said after sniffing the small pouch with interest.

"Your word," the sorceress reminded him firmly. She would not put it past him to try to get paid twice, but he was enough of a fey thing that once he made a proper pledge he would be bound by it.

"I, Hurk of the Honeywaters, swear not to inform the Queen of the Court of Stars nor any in her service of the words that shall be imparted on me this day," the troll grumbled.

Feeling the weight of the oath settle on the land like a cold mist Rina nodded and explained the conundrum. The landwards of the Court of Stars, bound to living fey and mortal lords alike, how they would like them removed, preferably in such a way as they could be studied and the lore made usable by mortal sorcerers. "Surely one such as yourself, blood and bone of the earth, knows more of how such things can be made and unmade than fickle bright spirits," the frost-touched flattered at the end.

"Hmph... yes... and you say you need this soon? Within moonturns?" the giant rumbled, obviously not best pleased with mortal haste. At Rina's nod he said: "In that time I can have a ritual made to break it the way a boulder breaks a spider's web as long as you have the aid of the mortal lords in the doing, but not steal its secrets."

"We do not count only upon your prodigious skills, elder one, but our own understanding," Lya interjected as she dispelled her veil, floating in midair not by any spell but by the power of air woven into her form.

"Well now, that sounds like an interesting way to shake off the Long Sleep," the giant replied.

Do you hire Hurk the Elder Troll, master wardcrafter, to help with the landwards?

[] Yes (Guaranteed to be able to break the wards in time, may be able to reproduce them; Cost 100,000 IM in precious metals and other treasure)

[] No, the cost is too high. Lya can continue on her own next month


OOC: Lya has learned a thing or two from Viserys over the years, when she could not figure out a less complex way to break the wards on her own she started to look for people she could outsource to.
 
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