A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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Allowances must be made for our European brethren.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
For each of Scholarums, or total?
Will also include the "standard scholarum branch defense package"
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Total, for Braavos specifically.
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- France
Yeah, I meant total. We know the teacher number cap, but we don't know the number of Silver Eye teachers we'll get once they join the Scholarum.
Like I said, worst case we'll simply make more Leshies next month, or preferably hire other sorts of teachers with different classes and all that. Not a huge issue.
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[X] Crake
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- Germany
We could start the operation by using Necrotic Molds in Lead-Clad hosts and Mindblanked Myrkdreki for scouting. If we assign some greater mold variants, we could even capture some enemies for interrogation.
I'd also have Qyburn do some helping here, since he knows the area and how to keep things hidden from prying eyes.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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We can go more in-depth this month when doing the Forge order since most of it will be spent in the Reach anyway.
For crafting, we can have someone make an item for a spell they don't personally know so long as someone who does is helping them right? I don't exactly recall the rules for that, but if we can it might be worth some time to make some of these:
The Tome of Leadership and Influence
The Tome of Understanding
The Tome of Clear Thought
The Manual of Bodily Health
The Manual Of Gainful Exercise
The Manual of Quickness of Action
Even if we don't, a fewSaccadic Focusing Prisms would be nice so that more PCs can benefit from our book based bonuses. It wouldn't apply to anything overly magical like the stat boosters above, but we have plenty of other books just going to waste right now.
On a more direct strategic note, if we can swing someTomes of Forgotten Epithets we can get a little more breathing room on our Mindblank supply. Each such item can mindblank a creature written on one of its pages for 24 hours, after which the page disappears and the effect ends. Each book has 50 pages, any number of which can be used at the same time, but it can't be altered while the protection is running.
I don't want to spam magic items, but now seems like the time to bring these up since they either have the possibility of using PC time or could effect our strategic behavior.
The Tome of Leadership and Influence
The Tome of Understanding
The Tome of Clear Thought
The Manual of Bodily Health
The Manual Of Gainful Exercise
The Manual of Quickness of Action
Even if we don't, a fewSaccadic Focusing Prisms would be nice so that more PCs can benefit from our book based bonuses. It wouldn't apply to anything overly magical like the stat boosters above, but we have plenty of other books just going to waste right now.
On a more direct strategic note, if we can swing someTomes of Forgotten Epithets we can get a little more breathing room on our Mindblank supply. Each such item can mindblank a creature written on one of its pages for 24 hours, after which the page disappears and the effect ends. Each book has 50 pages, any number of which can be used at the same time, but it can't be altered while the protection is running.
I don't want to spam magic items, but now seems like the time to bring these up since they either have the possibility of using PC time or could effect our strategic behavior.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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@DragonParadox said he didn't want these in his game last time I asked him. He's shifted back and forth on that and some other stuff before though.
Last ruling was you need to Wish or Miracle for permanent inherent bonuses to stats. But unlike SRD variant of that, bonuses stack even if you don't cast them concurrently.
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I like this one. It is very nice. Also, an absolute saviour on Mindblank supply as we can spam vassal names and keep their actions secret.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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It's a consumable item, so not good for anything but large scale operations where the supply of Mindblank is lacking and the value of (temporary) secrecy exceeds 10,800 IM.
Not good for long-term secrecy at all.
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Oh right. The pages vanish...well that is disappointing...
Okay, guess I missed that ruling. Those do require wish or miracle to make, but I suppose handing them out like candy would get out of hand.
It could be very convenient, but the ongoing cost to cover a large number of people would scale up pretty quickly. Central control over who gets mindblank and how long they have it is tempting though. Some of the people we've given them to only really need them for medium term stuff, and we can't exactly ask for the items back.
In cases like the city of brass raid this could be very useful though. We could cover most of the significant people for the entire day of the raid without straining our budget too badly.
edit: on the subject of that raid (and most of our other military actions I suppose) someWhisper Safes are a must have in my opinion. We could keep them in the warded room of the shadow tower, and fill them with keywords on ongoing operations. Not every agent can be warded enough to block these, even if their bosses are. If we pick up a sudden change we know we have a leak.
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Hermetia interlude next, it's been a while since we touched base with her.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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@DragonParadox, True Names.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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As Crake said, last word from DP was that the inherent bonus books don't exist in this setting.
The Prism is neat, and cheap enough that it wouldn't hurt to buy a few.
The Mind Blank book has potential. It's basically like getting 50 Mind Blank scrolls for 10,800 IM rather than the 15,000 IM it would cost for 50 scrolls. Of course, this is our crafting prices, and only Lya has the ability among our crafters to do it. Since her time is at a premium, the price would be 21,600 IM to purchase versus 30,000 to purchase 50 Mind Blank scrolls.
Her Quill of Scribing allows her to automatically scribe a spell scroll per day, like a specialized Dedicated Wright. She can do that for 300 IM per scroll. It would be cheaper to have her make scrolls, but that would prevent her from making other high level scrolls. Commissioning one or more of the books would be more time efficient and allow us to easily protect a large contingent of people temporarily.
@BronzeTongue, could you add these items to the post you made yesterday that had a bunch of other items? I have that page bookmarked for reference.
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[X] Crake
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- Germany
I'm not sure I'm yet happy with the Ghiscari-group.
For a pure Intrigue action we have several non-subtle people (Waymar, Yrael, Liomond) in the team who might cause trouble when we are supposed to stay below the radar.
I guess they can just stay in our safehouses in case we need the manpower.
For a pure Intrigue action we have several non-subtle people (Waymar, Yrael, Liomond) in the team who might cause trouble when we are supposed to stay below the radar.
I guess they can just stay in our safehouses in case we need the manpower.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
@DragonParadox Can we convince the Fire Whales we recruited this month, to stick together as one pod for this one month? Because we only have 10 batches of pod guardians, so we are short guardians for 4 pods.
We can of course order more next month, I'm going to vote for making 10 additional batches this month, (4 to supply the pods lacking guardians this month, 6 more so even if we get the best roll possible next month, we have enough prepared.)
Also do having additional pods, cause news about harvesting to spread faster, so when we cross a threshold for pods already joined, we get 2d6 a month? Because logically the more pods already recruited, the more pods are spreading the word.
We can of course order more next month, I'm going to vote for making 10 additional batches this month, (4 to supply the pods lacking guardians this month, 6 more so even if we get the best roll possible next month, we have enough prepared.)
Also do having additional pods, cause news about harvesting to spread faster, so when we cross a threshold for pods already joined, we get 2d6 a month? Because logically the more pods already recruited, the more pods are spreading the word.
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egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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That was the idea, yes.
Sure, it's a good idea to have an in thread reference. Do you think it's worth the time to use the book bonuses for the A listers, or just B party level stuff and Scholarum students?
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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There was a minor retcon to remove most of the various book-based bonuses. They were starting to get way out of hand. Now they're just sources of useful knowledge.