More confirmation that Brine Dragons are assholes more often than not.

Really that's just dragons. Name one group which as a rule isn't a bunch of unruly children with more power than they deserve?

There's some standout individuals but in any given power structure that involves dragons over a wide area, it's the assholes who congregate at the top.
 
Well, I think we can work with that.
Save certain hostaged children here, assasinate an asshole there...

But I've gotten suddenly neck-deep'd by studies :/
So, delegating.

[X] Crake
@Crake I trust ya to try to leverage this info to get us more forces agaisnt Illithids.
We need those.


@DragonParadox, what about this?
-[X] Also look into how Brine Dragons' feuds work according to laws and traditions. Would us helping in killing the one Relath has an eye for, be agaisnt those regulations?
 
So DP what's outside the territory of the 14? The wild plane of water or are there more colonies, settlements and cities not affiliated with them?

There are minor settlements and budding realms yes, though they are limited to the available light and anchoring points for settlements


Basically the same way you handled Relath, a duel, though nothing really stops the other dragon from refusing said duel if he thinks he has the stronger army.
 
[X] Network with the Trade Houses, working out deals for the sale of the goods you've brought and arrangements to ply more trade toward them on an ongoing basis. Cite that trips would often coincide with a great unleashing of goods from the Garden but due to political obstacles and other matters such as Farspawn taking away your attention, it is quite unfortunate that their own merchants will have difficulty plying those routes. Now if only caravans could move through those portals unmolested, they would not be reliant on you to provide such goods and craft on a regular basis and their rivals would not be scrambling to buy what you bring out from under them...

[X] Preceding this, celebrate Dany's nameday at home and have Relath make some arrangements to sponsor various artists for some anti-Efreeti propaganda, and spread tales of your own raiding on them.

To be entirely honest with you, I consider any Brine dragon without severe baggage tying them down in Water a complete liability. I don't want them scouting out the places to raid with corsairs later on.
 
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That is for you guys to decide. Answering that as the GM would amount to advocating one course of action or another.

*grins widely*

I'm interested. Usually this many dragons gathering in one place and NOT immediately killing each other means that they have a little trick up their sleeve.

We could have some awesome fight scenes!!!

[X] Crake
 
To be entirely honest with you, I consider any Brine dragon without severe baggage tying them down in Water a complete liability. I don't want them scouting out the places to raid with corsairs later on.
Yash, basically this.
Some of them might still be workable, but seeing it put as here, none of them are trustworthy enough.

What a shame.
They are, apparently, quite good in instances we were presented with.
[X] Network with the Trade houses, working out deals for the sale of the goods you've brought and arrangements to ply more trade toward them on an ongoing basis. Cite that trips would often coincide with a great unleashing of goods from the Garden but due to political obstacles and other matters such as Farspawn taking away your attention, it is quite unfortunate that their own merchants will have difficulty plying those routes. Now if only caravans could move through those portals unmolested, they would not be reliant on you to provide such goods and craft on a regular basis and their rivals would not be scrambling to buy what you bring out from under them...
So, basically, you are saying "we could trade with you more but Deep Ones get in the way. Halp us kill them and we'll trade more"?

I'm somewhat interested in trying to get services of any mercanary companies they aren't currently using. Buying out contracts, or something..?
Worth a try, I think.
 
[X] Network with the Trade Houses, working out deals for the sale of the goods you've brought and arrangements to ply more trade toward them on an ongoing basis. Cite that trips would often coincide with a great unleashing of goods from the Garden but due to political obstacles and other matters such as Farspawn taking away your attention, it is quite unfortunate that their own merchants will have difficulty plying those routes. Now if only caravans could move through those portals unmolested, they would not be reliant on you to provide such goods and craft on a regular basis and their rivals would not be scrambling to buy what you bring out from under them...

[X] Preceding this, celebrate Dany's birthday at home and have Relath make some arrangements to sponsor some artists for some anti-Efreeti propaganda, and spread tales of your own raiding on them.

To be entirely honest with you, I consider any Brine dragon without severe baggage tying them down in Water a complete liability. I don't want them scouting out the places to raid with corsairs later on.
[X] Crake

@Crake, can you include this with the vote? @DragonParadox, is it all right for this order to be considered to have been placed at the beginning of the month?

[] Fungal Forge Order: 11th Month
-[] Supplementary Scholarium Instructors:
--[] 30 Advanced Cleric Lotus Leshy (CR 8, 7 HD) - 2,400 IM each (72,000 IM)
--[] 30 Advanced Wizard Lotus Leshy (CR 8, 7 HD) - 2,400 IM each (72,000 IM)

-[] Heart Tree Guardians:
--[] 52 Verdant Wolves (CR 6, 6 HD) - 936 HD consumed
--[] 52 Advanced Druid Lotus Leshy (CR 8, 7 HD) - 2,400 IM each (124,800 IM)
--[] 26 Druid Creature Treants (CR 10, 7 HD) - 4,800 IM each (Total: 124,800 IM)

-[] Flesh Forge Guardians:
--[] 20 Verdant Wolves (CR 6, 6 HD) - 360 HD consumed
--[] 20 Advanced Druid Lotus Leshy (CR 8, 7 HD) - 2,400 IM each (48,000 IM)
--[] 10 Druid Creature Treants (CR 10, 7 HD) - 4,800 IM each (Total: 48,000 IM)

-[] Aquatic Forces:
--[] 60 Advanced Plant-Imbued Gigantean Manta Ray (CR 6, 12 HD) - 2,160 HD consumed
--[] 900 Advanced Plant-Imbued Giant Hippocampus (CR 6, 2 HD) - 5,400 HD consumed
--[] 123 Advanced Druid Creature Seaweed Leshy (CR 6, 4 HD) - 300 HD consumed
--[] 20 Plant-Imbued Coral Drake (CR 10, 12 HD) - 4,800 IM each (96,000 IM)
--[] 25 Advanced Plant-Imbued Sea Drake (CR 10, 7 HD) - 4,800 IM each (120,000 IM)
--[] 100 Advanced Plant-Imbued Orca (CR 8, 9 HD) - 2,400 IM each (Total: 240,000 IM)
--[] 20 Advanced Plant-Imbued Druid Creature Orca (CR 10, 9 HD) - 4,800 IM each (Total: 96,000 IM)

-[] Total Cost: 1,041,600 IM
-[] Total HD Expenditure: 9,248
 
Why would we?

[X] Crake

*shrugs*

Honestly, I just want more of Viserys' fight scenes. But... I guess it's just m—

Why would we?

[X] Crake

*shrugs*

Honestly, I just want more of Viserys' fight scenes. But... I guess it's just m—

We're a megaton murderlizard with an ego and a fiery breath, which we criminally underuse. About damn time we go dragon wresting again!

[X] Crake

—or not! :D I sense a kindred spirit. Let us wrestle these slimy bastards, aye?!
 
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[] Fungal Forge Order: 11th Month
-[] Supplementary Scholarium Instructors:
--[] 30 Advanced Cleric Lotus Leshy (CR 8, 7 HD) - 2,400 IM each (72,000 IM)
--[] 30 Advanced Wizard Lotus Leshy (CR 8, 7 HD) - 2,400 IM each (72,000 IM)

-[] Heart Tree Guardians:
--[] 52 Verdant Wolves (CR 6, 6 HD) - 936 HD consumed
--[] 52 Advanced Druid Lotus Leshy (CR 8, 7 HD) - 2,400 IM each (124,800 IM)
--[] 26 Druid Creature Treants (CR 10, 7 HD) - 4,800 IM each (Total: 124,800 IM)

-[] Flesh Forge Guardians:
--[] 20 Verdant Wolves (CR 6, 6 HD) - 360 HD consumed
--[] 20 Advanced Druid Lotus Leshy (CR 8, 7 HD) - 2,400 IM each (48,000 IM)
--[] 10 Druid Creature Treants (CR 10, 7 HD) - 4,800 IM each (Total: 48,000 IM)

-[] Aquatic Forces:
--[] 60 Advanced Plant-Imbued Gigantean Manta Ray (CR 6, 12 HD) - 2,160 HD consumed
--[] 900 Advanced Plant-Imbued Giant Hippocampus (CR 6, 2 HD) - 5,400 HD consumed
--[] 123 Advanced Druid Creature Seaweed Leshy (CR 6, 4 HD) - 300 HD consumed
--[] 20 Plant-Imbued Coral Drake (CR 10, 12 HD) - 4,800 IM each (96,000 IM)
--[] 25 Advanced Plant-Imbued Sea Drake (CR 10, 7 HD) - 4,800 IM each (120,000 IM)
--[] 100 Advanced Plant-Imbued Orca (CR 8, 9 HD) - 2,400 IM each (Total: 240,000 IM)
--[] 20 Advanced Plant-Imbued Druid Creature Orca (CR 10, 9 HD) - 4,800 IM each (Total: 96,000 IM)

-[] Total Cost: 1,041,600 IM
-[] Total HD Expenditure: 9,248
@Goldfish, are we going to discuss the "regular" flesh-forge's order now, then?
I suppose it is all about "elite" units with that CR15 cap/

@DragonParadox, what is the bodies-to-HD recycling ratio on Gogossi Forge?
The only part we haven't had revealed yet, iirc.
 
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[X] Crake

@Crake, can you include this with the vote? @DragonParadox, is it all right for this order to be considered to have been placed at the beginning of the month?

[] Fungal Forge Order: 11th Month
-[] Supplementary Scholarium Instructors:
--[] 30 Advanced Cleric Lotus Leshy (CR 8, 7 HD) - 2,400 IM each (72,000 IM)
--[] 30 Advanced Wizard Lotus Leshy (CR 8, 7 HD) - 2,400 IM each (72,000 IM)

-[] Heart Tree Guardians:
--[] 52 Verdant Wolves (CR 6, 6 HD) - 936 HD consumed
--[] 52 Advanced Druid Lotus Leshy (CR 8, 7 HD) - 2,400 IM each (124,800 IM)
--[] 26 Druid Creature Treants (CR 10, 7 HD) - 4,800 IM each (Total: 124,800 IM)

-[] Flesh Forge Guardians:
--[] 20 Verdant Wolves (CR 6, 6 HD) - 360 HD consumed
--[] 20 Advanced Druid Lotus Leshy (CR 8, 7 HD) - 2,400 IM each (48,000 IM)
--[] 10 Druid Creature Treants (CR 10, 7 HD) - 4,800 IM each (Total: 48,000 IM)

-[] Aquatic Forces:
--[] 60 Advanced Plant-Imbued Gigantean Manta Ray (CR 6, 12 HD) - 2,160 HD consumed
--[] 900 Advanced Plant-Imbued Giant Hippocampus (CR 6, 2 HD) - 5,400 HD consumed
--[] 123 Advanced Druid Creature Seaweed Leshy (CR 6, 4 HD) - 300 HD consumed
--[] 20 Plant-Imbued Coral Drake (CR 10, 12 HD) - 4,800 IM each (96,000 IM)
--[] 25 Advanced Plant-Imbued Sea Drake (CR 10, 7 HD) - 4,800 IM each (120,000 IM)
--[] 100 Advanced Plant-Imbued Orca (CR 8, 9 HD) - 2,400 IM each (Total: 240,000 IM)
--[] 20 Advanced Plant-Imbued Druid Creature Orca (CR 10, 9 HD) - 4,800 IM each (Total: 96,000 IM)

-[] Total Cost: 1,041,600 IM
-[] Total HD Expenditure: 9,248
Sorry, hey, can we vote on this at the overnight vote instead? I have some stuff to add for the higher CR flesh forge but well, I'm at work right now. Too busy to do more than pop in a vote before the start of my shift.
 
The recycling ratio is the same since that is not an original Valyrian feature, but an Old God addition.
@Duesal, mind noting that down on Forges-threadmark?

Remaining points of interest for the trip:
[] Buying aquatic plants (theoretical underwater Weirwoods*)
[] Buying lore and/or maps
[] Buying aquatic beasts in bulk for our Tritons.
[] VIsiting the Moonsingers' temple in Vialesk
[] Finding if Lannisters have any business with City-states/mercanaries and stopping it


*honestly, I'm quite agaisnt that upgrade, or any other that don't either:
a) make them harder to freeze (because Others)
b) make them harder to cut (because morons).

They aren't our symbol, but the Old Gods'.
I would have been all for making them into super-trees we all thought and caw'd, but we'll be using wildly different things to spread our Imperial Dream around - and RAs can be better spent elsewhere than ever-harder "make these trees better!".

I'd rather make some super-hardened narrative-enforcers for Imperial Deity instead.
 
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@Goldfish, are we going to discuss the "regular" flesh-forge's order now, then?
I suppose it is all about "elite" units with that CR15 cap/

@DragonParadox, what is the bodies-to-HD recycling ratio on Gogossi Forge?
The only part we haven't had revealed yet, iirc.
We can do that this evening.
Sorry, hey, can we vote on this at the overnight vote instead? I have some stuff to add for the higher CR flesh forge but well, I'm at work right now. Too busy to do more than pop in a vote before the start of my shift.
That's fine with me.
 
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